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Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
Wiggz said:
Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
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Wiggz,
Try checking if you're in a dead-zone with no reception? (Your phone may be constantly trying to search for a signal). Do this for Wi-Fi too. Make sure it is not constantly scanning for a network.
Similarly, open up your task manager. How many programs do you see running in the background? Remember that pressing X in Windows Mobile does not mean it closes the application, it only means that the application is minimized.
Cheers.
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
Wiggz said:
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
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Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
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Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
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When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
Wiggz said:
When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
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Wiggz,
Unfortunately, that's all from me (I dont even have this phone yet, I'm saving up for it in the next couple of weeks). Try turning off your data and see how it goes. But damn, 50% loss just on idling, something in the background is definitely killing the battery.
Cheers!
Thanks for the help anyway - annoying the crap out of me. My Artemis used to go for days without needing a charge...I suppose my battery could be screwed but I want to troubleshoot first before I bite the bullet on that one - suppose I could hard reset and see what the drain is?
Things idling in RAM should not have any significant hit on the battery life. However, having the data connection on 24/7 will indeed kill your battery life, especially if you're using 3g or higher (Edge drains alot aswell, but not as much as 3g and higher). Since emails seem important to you, I'm guessing you have it set to dl every 5min (which is the most frequent setting). If applicable, change it to 10 or 15; granted it's possible you do need to get your emails ASAP and you need the 5min frequency. Now regardless whether you changed the frequency of the auto dl or not, set your data connection to terminate after a 1min of not being used. This should help you get a good bit more out of your battery.
(I have emails dl every 30min and RSS feeds and push pages once an hour. Data enables itself when needed and then terminates after a minute of not being used. This allows me to get much more than a days usage out of the phone. The only way I kill the phone is if on top of all that, I listen to music/radio for about 6 hours)
Hope it helps
oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
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oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
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Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
i had similar problem, battery got drained overnight or during the day with a speed of light... but in my case the bad boy was Palringo (IM) which was auto starting with every phone reset and did not show on taskbar...it is so bad that it drained fully charged battery in aprox. 6-7 hours. so now i hardly use it, and whenever i do i make sure its closed properly....
Wiggz said:
Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
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personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
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personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
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Well the reason I mentioned it was that I enabled that as one of a number of weaks and ended up having to hard reset as I wasn't getting Texts in a timely manner etc....it was probably another setting but I couldn't be sure.
Will try again. Only other thing is that data connection on 24/7 is great for a quick browse here and there and stock updates etc...
crashDebug said:
do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
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why is that, by the way?
You haven't got Sprite Virtual Mobile installed have you? I tried it out on my HD and it sucked the life out of it for some strange reason. And it wasn't even showing up in task manager.
Is there a list of processes, services etc that we can safely remove/disable to work in the background? What say all?
glad this thread came up - my blackstone has been absolutely fine until I had the genius idea of "optimising" everything about 2 weeks ago with HD Tweak...
Now it's not HD Tweaks fault, but whatever I have changed means that it can drain a full charge overnight, and by morning its nigh on empty, i'm going to try and change it all back today, but for sure some setting I've changed is sucking juice like no-ones business.
FWIW - I havent installed anything during this time, the only thing i've changed is some of the settings - so it's not a "rogue" app draining the battery.
OT - sorry for the semi-hijack - I guess my point is that i'll have a play with the settings and see if I can determine what's eating the battery and then compare with other people.
that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
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that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
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ta - me either - i've changed a few settings and made a note - will post if it doesnt eat the battery overnight over the next couple of days.
Hello. I need an opinion, i've been using cyanogenmod 5.0.7.
Just back to my home pc. After using for 1 day i must say that battery life is a issue. I really dont know what is. I've been monitoring all the apps. to see if there was any CPU change. Is LauncherPro responsible for battery drain?
In almost 13 hours the battery was reduced from 100% to 24% . My settings at SetCpu are:
Usualy have only 2G signal in order to save battery.
Sleepmode 128 as minimum and maximum. In normal use is 528 as Maximum and 245 as minimum ( i tested for 5 hours with 352 Mhz as maximum , anoying that the performance wasnt very good so i changed back).
Stock of new radio roms, have as default 480Mhz as minimum and 528Mhz as Maximum for what i saw in SetCPU last time i used the Sense UI 1.5 Stock by cursordroid. IT lasted me around 1 day and like 10 more hours with same use as this time.
I would request higly some opinion about this, so that i may know what to do in order to have a better battery life.
I used around 3 hours of music daily, near 30 min of internet (it varies according to my needs). Phone Calls (around 1 hour at max). Some text messaging. And 20-40 min of playing games and checking apps for fun entertainement (This i dont do daily but since was todays use i leave here) .
Also noticed as stated above about the Signal reception (reception is in maximum but call gets lost easily compared to a normal ROM and new radio (not sure if is only new radio)). Is alot worst than usual. I dont know the reason. But with sense ui worked perfectly well.
I think these are the most important issues wich must be dealt with in my opinion and i hope next release will be accounted.
Battery life and signal reception or if you can help, and sorry if this is not a issue of the rom, a possible solution.
Thank you!
Some battery saving tips:
- Go into spare parts and make sure the end call button makes the phone go to sleep.
- Turn off market notifications (Go to the market, then downloads, then hit menu and then notifications).
- Turn down the brightness as low as you stand it.
- Kind of an obvious one, but get a task manager and periodically kill apps running in the background that you're not using.
- Speaking of apps running in the background, lower the refresh rate of apps to as low as you can. Or simply turn off background data use and refreshing entirely.
- Turn off wifi/bluetooth/GPS when you're not using them.
- Use as few widgets as you can.
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Some battery saving tips:
- Kind of an obvious one, but get a task manager and periodically kill apps running in the background that you're not using.
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This is plain WRONG.
Do try ADW Launcher instead of Launcher Pro. It won't help with your reception issues though. I had the same problem with CM on old radio. The other was GPS (didn't work).
FlyingToilets said:
Some battery saving tips:
- Kind of an obvious one, but get a task manager and periodically kill apps running in the background that you're not using.
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drbobb said:
This is plain WRONG.
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Apps running in the background = better battery? Please explain.
i'll try as you suggested. it is very important. i'm testing now the port for new radio. Reception is great compared to the one before.
Lets see how it works for now =) I'm waitig for new update seems there is some battery drain issues going on CM 507
Also try using CM 5.0.8 test 1. I've noticed improved performance. I came across one thread that also suggested the Facebook program was causing drain. By turning off all the Facebook sync and notifications, I'm highly improved battery life.
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Apps running in the background = better battery? Please explain.
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Most apps that are in the background aren't running, they are sleeping and not using any CPU. For continued background activity the app would have to implement a service, which would be pointless for most apps.
I get 10 hours out of mine with complete eclair, and setcpu at 245 min and 614 max...Its stable and I do about 3-4 hours of music, moderate texting, and 115-30 min of web browsing of 3g...Oh and I only have about half signal.
507 was killing my battery... 508 seems to be better so far
actually after a experimenting 508 isnt that great either... it lasted about 11 hours... a listened to the radio most of the day and a few songs for about an hour... one phone call for about a minute... and its dead
the best Cm 5 battery life for me has been test 7...
Hmmm I look at it this way, if you clock to low it will take longer to finish whatever process its doing and will kill the battery faster, if you clock it to you, you will be poring to much voltage towards the cpu killing your battery...Idk if mines is best but its clocked at 614 and has been great so far.
I'm using CM 5.0.8 t1 and battery life is great: 24 hrs+. I DON'T use Facebook, Twitter, SMS or Market update check. I do sync Gmail, contacts, calendar and weather. I do use some internet, not a lot.
Wrong
Never use a task manager. Applications running in the background doesnt mean that they are running. The might be sharing resources with another ( or sharing threads). So never killl apps. Android has its own service manager which tells the phone to run on optimised settings. Killing a process will again require the other app to start again.
Uninstall your task killer and feel the difference
siddharthsai said:
Never use a task manager. Applications running in the background doesnt mean that they are running. The might be sharing resources with another ( or sharing threads). So never killl apps. Android has its own service manager which tells the phone to run on optimised settings. Killing a process will again require the other app to start again.
Uninstall your task killer and feel the difference
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Correct, just like windows, and force closing some apps can cause the o/s to become unstable...
Hi friends.
I found the following coincedence.
When I install new build aparently CurrentWindget shows 60mA in stand by and no way to fix it to 5-7mA as it should be.
The solution which helps me to fix it is the following:
- enable GPS module in settings
- open Maps and wait for it to find where you are located
- go back to homescreen and put phone to stand by
It should be fixed now to 5-7mA current.
Hope it will help everyone.
I can even leave GPS module on all the time after that - standby current stays at 5-7mA level.
hlvl said:
I can even leave GPS module on all the time after that - standby current stays at 5-7mA level.
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Very strange, but very cool if it works for you! I will give it a shot next time I see high battery drain. Thanks for sharing, it will help at least one other person if it helps you.
I've also found that switching Bluetooth off, then back on again, fixes this 60mA drain !
Common misconception: leaving GPS enabled in settings doesn't leave the GPS chip on the whole time. It just means that an app can enable it when it needs to (e.g. when you open Maps). As long as there's no GPS icon in your status bar, it doesn't drain *any* battery.
OT: that trick would be way faster than rebooting! Gonna try if it works for me too.
Really strange solution for this issue. I have the same problem but for this moment have drain about 5mA after quick boot with dualbootloader (wait time 3sec for Android load). For this moment 5mA in standby mode - with any enabled comm modules (WiFi,Bluetooth,GPS).
My experince of fixing the problem(temporary) is not using taskkiller too often, but it not always works
Curarpikt said:
My experince of fixing the problem(temporary) is not using taskkiller too often, but it not always works
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Don't ever use your task killer again, it only causes problems.
Tried the above however no sucess..........please check out my post and tell me what you think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857606&highlight=battery+wifi
I'm getting better battery life with wifi on
StephanV said:
Don't ever use your task killer again, it only causes problems.
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Why? I use it a lot...
To solve 60mA problem, each time you want to boot android:
1) when you are in windows mobile, lock the phone and turn the screen off by press end call button
2) wait few seconds and press it again to turn on screen
3) you see lock screen, unlock your phone
4) after that boot your android quickly within 10 seconds! (you can do it by creat shortcut of android on your home sceen)
I test it and solve problem for me on both mccm and mdeejay builds!
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Why? I use it a lot...
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It was discussed hunderd of times. You dont need to free up mem in android 2.x
It has already a memory management built inside.
The only reason to use a task killer is to close an app that hangs or not properly close itself.
If you continue to kill your processes and backround apps just to free up ram, you will definitively drain more battery becaouse some of that apps will just load again automatically from SD or, when you open again one of them, it needs to load again from SD.
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It was discussed hunderd of times. You dont need to free up mem in android 2.x
It has already a memory management built inside.
The only reason to use a task killer is to close an app that hangs or not properly close itself.
If you continue to kill your processes and backround apps just to free up ram, you will definitively drain more battery becaouse some of that apps will just load again automatically from SD or, when you open again one of them, it needs to load again from SD.
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Exactly. And apps not closing properly is still not an excuse for using it. If the app is bad uninstall it or mail the dev to fixit, but don't go around screwing stuff up with a task killer.
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Why? I use it a lot...
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Me to....i use 2!
Autokiller on agressive,and a taskkiller....never troubles with drain etc
Or everyone check my signiture for my thread on battery drain solution
I think the OP is really onto something here. I tried this trick & my drain has gone from a steady 55-65mA down to around 5. I'm impressed!
Just one question, those of you that having issues with battery drain what WM do u use? I've recently had a problem on my HD2 (no USB) and i installed a stock ROM. Before i had the VBN Droid Reloaded 2 and with Mdeejay kernel current widget never showed me values above 300mA (witch i believe i only saw that value 1 time). Usually i'd get from 1-2mA to 250mA tops. Now i'll never go below 60mA and i've seen the record of 600mA. Today it drain me from 95% to 35% in about 2 hours. A bit too much for my taste...
I always find if you boot Android with Win Mo fully booted, it's over 60mA, but if I use Exceller Dual Boot to boot Android before Win Mo has finished loading, then it's 5-6mA.
Yea man task_killer - problem
Everything is working for me fine, i am using futureShocks MIUI build, the only thing is when i switch on bluetooth, my battery drain is about 60-80 mAh without bluetooth i have 3-6 mAh... no task killer, no setcpu, with other builds like mdeejays sense roms this problem is not !?
Everyone an idea how to solve the problem ?
Hey guys. sorry if theres a thread like this already. im new to this forum and searched for nearly 3 hours but didnt find much of what i was looking for.
i have a t-mobile 1024 Hd2 with a custom windows mobile ROM LEO_firestorm_v7.4.23135-FX
and a android ROM (installed to SD)
mattcfroyo 1.5
and i also have setcpu installed. the phone(and both rom's) work great. the only issue is the battery life. my phone even when i would barely use it would maybe make it about 12 hours on a charge(doing very little web browsing, turning wifi/ bluetooth off when not in use, brightness around 30%). what have you guys done to get better battery life? should i install different ROMS? is there a WM rom that is basically barebones so it takes less resources and improves battery life? i dont care what the WM side looks like as i only want to use android anyways. i want to use Android as my main OS and how should i setup setcpu? really sorry if this thread is a repeat. if there is another asking exactly what i am please give me a link. im very new to this, so guides are very appreciated aswell.
i did find the thread "HOW TO: Wipe Battery stats to improve battery life" and ill be trying that. what i mainly want to know is how to guys have your roms and setcpu setup.
links to better roms/guides etc. are very appreciated. thanks allot guys.
any rom needs to be compatible with the 1024 hd2 though.
Hi and welcome to XDA,
I've my phone set up as shown in my signature. I don't use bluetooth, basically have no calls, some texts and fairly heavy browsing (web, tapatalk pro, newsrob pro) when I'm on the train. I have a 3mA-5mA drainage in standby. My phone will last 10-12 hours on a charge, after which I have to plug it in. I'm kinda used to it now, but last week I thought I'd give UltimateJuice a try. My phone lasted a little over 17hrs, though I probably used it a bit less intensive that day. The days after I got about 14-15 hours a day with regular use.
I have JuiceDefender installed, which also manages cpu speed. Basically it allows the cpu up to 614 Mhz when the phone is sleeping and 1190 Mhz when awake. Screen brightness is set to 15% currently. When I'm at home, JuiceDefender switches WiFi on automatically, when I'm outside it connects to 3G every 15 minute during 1 minute (adjustable).
Drainage is still somewhat heavier compared to WM, but I can live with it.
Sincerely,
Mac
looks like i found a solution today. last night i underclocked my cpu to 700mhz and i have not seen any performance difference and the battery is lasting allot longer. i have been using it moderately and the battery has gone down 8% in 3 hours of use which is already allot better than before.
i checked my battery power and after it was fully charged it showed 4.2mah so i knew that wasnt the problem. does anybody have the problem that their contacts(in android) are removed if they soft reset their phone? and if so does saving contacts to sim work to fix it? thanks
adrenalinechild said:
does anybody have the problem that their contacts(in android) are removed if they soft reset their phone? and if so does saving contacts to sim work to fix it? thanks
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No, that doesn't sound familiar. Are you syncing your contacts with your Google account?
Sincerely,
Mac
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no i just manually put in a few to my phone. does saving contacts to sim work in android on the hd2?
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no i just manually put in a few to my phone. does saving contacts to sim work in android on the hd2?
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yes it does, but why don't you have all your contacts sync with google?
roloracer said:
yes it does, but why don't you have all your contacts sync with google?
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backup everything before you do this though. it's known to cause crash at startup and you won't be able to use your android again.
im having a problem with my hd2. i made a call today. and all the incoming voice sounded like a decepticon. kinda cool but definately not useful to actually talking to a person. what should i do to fix this? is it the rom i am using?
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im having a problem with my hd2. i made a call today. and all the incoming voice sounded like a decepticon. kinda cool but definately not useful to actually talking to a person. what should i do to fix this? is it the rom i am using?
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it's a known issue. read the faq.
My x10 drains quite quickly while using wifi.
Like 1% for every Min.( wifi sleeps during screen off too)
so my battery life sucks due to this fact.
how about u guys ? is it the same
and my 3g seems to perform better in terms of battery. but have limited data , so cannot use freely .
Any way to fix battery drain due to wifi heavy drainage?
Sorry if you already checked... But did you take a look at the applications that are running? I´m just asking this because i was noticing a heavy battery drain and thought that it was due to wifi or data, but i came to the conclusion that i had 2 apps (weather go and another app) that was sucking all my battery.
Try checking this and if you don´t see anything unusual, try using the advanced task killer from the market (free) and configure it for auto-kill while screen off (don´t forget to reboot to take effect). It gave me about 1 more day of battery.
Hope it helps. =)
Absolutely right.. it won't be your wifi causing the problem.. definitely dodgy apps.
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Sorry if you already checked... But did you take a look at the applications that are running? I´m just asking this because i was noticing a heavy battery drain and thought that it was due to wifi or data, but i came to the conclusion that i had 2 apps (weather go and another app) that was sucking all my battery.
Try checking this and if you don´t see anything unusual, try using the advanced task killer from the market (free) and configure it for auto-kill while screen off (don´t forget to reboot to take effect). It gave me about 1 more day of battery.
Hope it helps. =)
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what rom are you using?
To be honest this happened to me twice. When I was using stock 2.1 and when I was using Wolf's rom. When I was on stock I solved it with a task killer. On rom's that are 2.2 or higher, task killers don't work since the system has its own task killer. In this case I could only solve it by reinstalling the rom, since the problem was there from the beggining.
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