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What interferes with OTA updates?

So after receiving my replacement vibrant i've decided to simply root and use some of the apps i used to like. Assuming i don't end up breaking under pressure and flashing a ROM, will things such as morphs and changing system apps not allow an OTA to successfully flash and boot? I did apply a black bar mod with an accurate battery but other than that i've done nothing but app related activities that require root. So, say when the official 2.2 comes out, would i have to revert my framework to stock as well before accepting the update? Like I said, currently I remain on stock JI6 with the stock kernel.

I think you need to be completely stock, no mods, for an ota to take. If not you'll most likely brick
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That's not true. You can have all kinds of mods. The only thing you need is touchwiz running during the ota time frame and you will get it.
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For instance I was running jfd and jacs oc/uv kernel and a battery mod + a meta morph theme and no home replacement app and I got the update
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blackerwater said:
For instance I was running jfd and jacs oc/uv kernel and a battery mod + a meta morph theme and no home replacement app and I got the update
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yeah, but did it work? were your mods still there? i was told that having a different kernel will not allow the update to come through

My phone went to stock . Booted up with stock ji6 with ji6 kernel . I had to reroot even though my super user app was still there and reapply mods just like when you odin a stock rom . The only difference was my apps stayed in system/app and system/app-private and carried over with the update.
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Hmm, I was just basing my comment on all the threads saying there were modded and ended up brickin...i havent even got the update yet so I dont know for sure
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metalfan78 said:
Hmm, I was just basing my comment on all the threads saying there were modded and ended up brickin...i havent even got the update yet so I dont know for sure
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The ones that bricked were probably running voodo . That changes things... So if your running stock jfd and a voodo kernel your most likely to brick. But odin will save you.
O and you haven't recieved the ota yet?? That sucks. Why havent you used keys mini from samsung thats an official way to upgrade.
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All I had at the time was root, clockwork rom, titanium backup and launcher pro and mine bricked (well soft bricked)...
Now, I'm running bionix 1.9.1 and loving it...hahahaha

Ive never used mini kies before, I wouldnt trust my old ass pc, I try not to use odin too much either
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blackerwater said:
The ones that bricked were probably running voodo .
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Mine soft brick , no voodo

[Q] To flash or not to flash?

I've had my Fascinate for a few days now and absolutely love it.
So far I've been running stock. I've replaced TW with launcher Pro, hidden Verizon bloatware and rooted my phone. Bing isn't an issue because my homepage is set to Google. Should I stay on stock hoping that I'll get the 2.2 OTA soon or should I dive in and install custom ROMS?
What would be my primary benefits if I install custom ROMS? Any disadvantages?
I apologize if this question has been asked before. I tried searching the first few pages but couldn't find anything.

no replies?

I recommend you install clockworkmod, download rom manager,and buy the premium license, and use it to make a backup of your stock rom, then in rom manager you can download many roms, kernels and themes, and if you have any problem you can always use your backups to gwt back to where you want, just stay away drom vodoo, anyways when we get feoyo, we will get a costumized froyo rom from our fine developers here at Xda
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Rom Questions

Hey Guys, sorry if this has been covered before but I have been reading these forums since I got my Fascinate on launch day and am still confused. I am rooted with clockwork installed and I have flashed some roms but never kept any on, always just restored with clockwork. Also I have DJ05 on my phone.
1) Is there a way flash a rom and not lose all of my apps and the way my phone is set up. I like the way Super dark looks in the screen shots but don't have time to set my phones up again. Is what I want a theme?
2) Another issue I have is that I like the way samsung has the puzzle piece for texts and missed calls on the lock screen that take me right to my messages, are there any roms that have that incorporated.
Thanks for the help
Sal

1. You can use titanium pro to back up your apps. If you are using launcher pro it will save all your settings as well so it will be the same setup. You could also just install a theme which if you do that there is not a need to erase cache/data and you lose nothing.
2. I do believe you can install the puzzle lock screen if you wish, but don't quote me
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You don't have to wipe data when you flash a rom. While it is recommended, I wait to see if I have issues after the flash before wiping.
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imnuts said:
You don't have to wipe data when you flash a rom. While it is recommended, I wait to see if I have issues after the flash before wiping.
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Well there ya go, I thought it was basically a must.

Yes, you can flash a rom. Just flash the theme again after the new rom is flashed.
If you look in cwm, look under blackhole rom. There are different stock options that you can individually select to update. The puzzle unlock is one of the .zip's that are ready to be flashed.

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm gonna try them out tonight after work. I backed up with titanium backup using dropbox last night. So I'm ready to go with the roms.
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If you look in cwm, look under blackhole rom. There are different stock options that you can individually select to update. The puzzle unlock is one of the .zip's that are ready to be flashed.
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Just one more question regarding the puzzle lock. Do I have to have blackhole installed to use it or can I have like super dark or any other rom or theme with it?
Thanks again for the help
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Okay I finally got around to flashing a rom. I went with super dark and after I flash the puzzle Lock from son of sky walker But when I get text messages they don't come up on the lock screen. You guys have any idea how I could make That happen?
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[Q] ROMS LAGFIX etc.

I have a few questions.
I understand there are official updates for our phones 2.1->2.2 but they are operator based. So there are customized roms, that are with custom stuff.
I'm really intereseted in upgrading from 2.1 official rom to a custom, but dont know exactly which one to choose.
I once flashed a 2.2 but it bricked my phone, so i had it repaired (the phone didnt respond to any key combinations or anything at all).
So is there any point to upgrade if there isnt any stable roms.
And also why is everyone waiting for the official update from samsung when there are already 2.2 roms for 5800.
Lagfix seems like a thing to try out, but i want to be sure which rom is the best and so that the basic stuff works.

Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..

TekkenLaw said:
Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..
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Thanks for your reply, that's what i wanted to know. I was thinking the same thing that probably the custom roms arent stable enough and that the official update still aint available.

Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?

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Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?
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is it safe and works fine just like the default 2.1 that we have in our phones?

Sure ^^ and you cant brick your phone if you dont flash your bootloader^^ jpf also works faster^^ i would recommend to flash a custom rom. Like lestatious one. Everything works well on it^^ have fun
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just dont flash the bootloader and you can always reenter download mode.
backing up isn't that big of an issue, titanium backup backs up pretty much everything.

If you're planning on using titanium, just be aware that you should only restore non android apps when switching from eclair to froyo..i tried this and kept getting fc's. Just make backups of stuff in the individual apps like contacts etc, then restore them after you upgrade to froyo. Then make a full titanium backup of everything once you have your phone the way you want it. From then on you can just test any rom you like and always have a quick easy way of getting your stuff back. I recommend using astro to backup titanium so you can have a version to hand after flashing.
P.S. I use jfp ultra clean and it rocks my socks
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Ok, i might try out the stock 2.2 rom... But what about lagfixes or are they even neccessary on 2.2?
Cause my current 2.1 stock rom is really laggy, i remove tasks to clean up memory but it's still kinda slow.

Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.

shr33kant said:
Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.
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So the jpf rom isnt europe or just needs some configs like that? But is the stock rom the best option, i don't neccessarily need all those extra stuff like samsung apps and layar etc. Pauri mentioned lestatious rom, its on JPA, for example. Is each one one of those stock roms like an update with still some bugs on them or just converted from other phone updates?
I'm between that custom rom and the JPF stock right now..

Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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shr33kant said:
Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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i guess i'll take your word for it and try out the JPF

i flashed the JPF and so far so good. It's atleast twice as fast as the stock 2.1 i had. Thanks you all for help

one more question, how do i root froyo 2.2 ?
i tried the one click method, after the command running it said everything is fine you're rooted. In recovery mode i tried to install update.zip but it didnt work.
havent see any alternatives for 2.2
can anyone help?

is there a way to manually download el30- sprint?

OK, a long time ago, I did a manual update on my EPIC 4g (sprint). I am thinking that is why I am unable to download the update through the setting tab a week after the update came out. I know everyone has it now. I have no idea what update I did on my phone last year... but I havnt been able to get firmware updates from sprint since them. I'd kinda like to have this one.
Does anyone know of a link that has this update, I can load to my SD card and execute on the phone? I just want to be able to reboot to the new ROM, I dont want to have to hook up to a PC and load it that way. I need a rookie, easy way to do this.
Thanks!!!

You most likely have either rooted or removed at least 1 pre-installed application. That would cause the EL30 update not to install. You can find the .zip file in both the General and Development forums.
If you have rooted or removed any pre-installed apps, then the stock .zip file won't install for you. You would need to make sure you're on a custom kernel for your current build (most likely EC05 or EI22), get CWM 5 installed and then install one of the near stock roms in the Dev forum.

Yea, it was so long ago, I dont know if it is rooted or not? I have been away from this stuff for quite a while and have completely lost touch. CW5? is that an app that I can install directly from the SD card? Also, does the dev forum have ROM's that I can install from SD as well? - sorry for all the questions!

hammerhead007 said:
Also, does the dev forum have ROM's that I can install from SD as well? - sorry for all the questions!
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Yes... you would know it if you clicked on it. Just don't start a new thread there. Read, and it'll all make sense.

hammerhead007 said:
Yea, it was so long ago, I dont know if it is rooted or not? I have been away from this stuff for quite a while and have completely lost touch. CW5? is that an app that I can install directly from the SD card? Also, does the dev forum have ROM's that I can install from SD as well? - sorry for all the questions!
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Go to your Settings > About Phone to see what your baseband, kernel and OS build are.
Yes the dev forum has kernels and roms available for you to flash. Google search "QBKing77 youtube channel" to get how-to videos for doing everything.
Baseband = your modem version. This is completely independent of your kernel and OS and can be a different version from those two.
Kernel & OS build = these must match in build #. Example would be EC05, EI22 and EL30. Some custom kernel's do not include the build # on the About Phone screen, but stock would.
CWM = ClockworkMod Recovery. This is a custom recovery tool that allows you to flash custom roms, kernels, mods and themes.
Easiest way to see if you're rooted is to look for the application Superuser in your application list. If it's there, then you're most likely rooted.

is there a way to unroot this handset and allow the sprint update to come thru? If not, what is the name of a good (stock) gingerbread ROM? There are a ton of them over on the dev side and honestly I dont want to mess with he clockwork stuff. Im kinda pinched for time.
I did find the CWM5 zip - i assume i can run that directly from the SD card, then apply the new ROM.

no superuser... know that I think back, I dont think I did root it. But I dont know why else the carrier update wont work?

ok, I just looked @ the current version(s).
BASEBAND: d700.0.55.DK28
KERNAL:2.6.32.9
BUILD: FROYO.DK28
so, what is going to be the easiest way to get this to EL30?
I am almost done bothering you guys - I promise!

Odining the el30 stock package and flashing an ec05 modem and then flashing the ec05 to el30 delta
Ill offer to do it for you in a little over 15 minutes if you'd like via teamviewer
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The modem is if I want to tether - correct? If I dont want to tether, then I dont have to flash the modem portion ?

No the modem is what allows for reciveing signal
Usually the most updated modem allows for better signal
Serisouly don't wanna take me up on the offer? You could just sit back let me d it for you then again if your one of those DIY'S its not very hard if you know what your doing
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ok.. I think im getting in over my head here... UGH.

hammerhead007 said:
ok.. I think im getting in over my head here... UGH.
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Let me do it for you free of charge go download teamviewer and private message me your teamid and password and I can walk you through it.
I read post I'm sorry .... do you want to go through the computer it pays off in the long run... this will help you if you ever brick your phone and could be a life saver.
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Thanks for the offer! Seriously an offer like that and I would paypal you a few $'s. Its the girlfriends phone. So, I dont have it in front of me now. I was gonna try to do it late tonight. In this process would she loose her settings / contacts /ect...?

hammerhead007 said:
Thanks for the offer! Seriously an offer like that and I would paypal you a few $'s. Its the girlfriends phone. So, I dont have it in front of me now. I was gonna try to do it late tonight. In this process would she loose her settings / contacts /ect...?
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Yes but these things can be backed up with mybackup from the market her settings not really but contacts sms call logs etc, can be backed up just make sure you don't use the stock cable that you have a good cable and the computer will recognise it
If you would like me to do it from her computer if she has one and her cable isn't stock then I could . Just pm if you need any help.
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Another good idea is to google Qbking77 youtube videos. He has a video for just about everything you need to update your phone.