I've done a whole battery of video recording comparisons with my Moto an HTC droids. My main findings are thus:
1. Moto video is much smoother and the light balancing is also sm oother. I find that the Incredible videos are very jumpy and the light brightness also shifts very ruggedly. It is mildly better when I record at the 640x480 instead of 800x480.
2. The video data rates are nearly twice as large on the Moto droid (approx 3600kbps) than the incredible (approx 2000kbps)
3. Audio bit rates are significantly better on the Moto. 98kbps vs 12kbps for the Incredible.
Now, am I just crazy, or has anyone else noticed this? I mean, I almost get sick just watching the jumpy video for the incredible, but video from the Moto seems so smooth.
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no way. the moto droid noise level is so high when recording.
I'm really having a hard time appreciating much of a difference in noise levels. What about the jumpiness I am speaking of? Trust me, I want to believe that the Incredible is better, but I'm just not seeing it. Audio is hands down better on the Moto. Maybe I can link some sample videos later if I get time.
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I wonder if HTC has some work to do here. I even saw the moto droid vs DI picture article online.
I have both, so I did an informal test, and the DI has some color cast, but it has more detail to work with in Adobe CS.
I also noticed that it's not sharpening like it should. For those in the DSLR realm, take a raw file.... you have to sharpen it or basically "post process" it for sharpening.
I don't want to take these steps, hopefully HTC will step up here. Get the function down in the phone and you will have much better pics than anything out there in it's class
Good points, and I agree that photos give more detail to work with, but I'm speaking soley about the video quality.
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Check out this link for a good video comparison. Seems I'm not just going crazy, but that the Motorola actually does record video better than the Incredible. What a shame.
When looking at the video, take note of how the vehicles driving by are "jerky". I can't understand why this is the case when the Incredible supposedly records at a higher frame rate. Does anyone know if this kind of thing can be addressed in a future software update??
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Mot...ncredible-side-by-side-review-r_2432-p_2.html
720p
I believe that the Moto Driod does DVD Quality 720p HD in its specs, where our phone MAY have the hardware capability, but the software has not been configured that way. Hopefully when we're rooted, and someone created a custom rom, that will be fixed
How does it compare to the htc touch hd2/htc desire?
I have read it is slightly slow at taking photos which is not a problem.
How is the quality of the camera/video camera?
When the streak will be updated to Android 2.2, what benefits/improvements are we likely to get?
Thanks in advance...
The camera is terrible, unfortunately.
Well, the quality is good, but the shutter speed is ridiculously slow so you get VERY blurry pictures unless you have a stupidly steady hand.
Also you can forget about taking photo's out of a moving car, just a blurry mess.
On the plus side, the video camera is pretty damn good
The 2.X update should bring many updates and hopefully Dell will tweak the camera settings. But, if not, as soon as dell releases the Kernel source we'll be able to do it ourselves!
Many thanks Meltus for your reply!
It's good to hear the videos are good. I wasn't too bothered about the pictures as I have an HD2 which is fantastic for pictures but poor for videos...
Yup, camera is poor. Phone is great though
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Hello everyone ! i just like to ask You, if there is any possibility to improve the quality of camera photos by kernel or tweaks or other software ingerention? It's able to do that by some apps, but there's no point. Many of us know: the quality as for 8.1 mpix camera isn't so good So it's because weak optical hardware or software/kernel lacks?
I don't see why X10i camera isn't good...
It's only bad for low light pics.. if you have plenty of light, pics quality is good enough for me...
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I don't know what the hell your doing with your camera, but when i use vignette i don't have any bad pictures. The x10 camera is damn good! Just not the stock camera that comes with it.
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quality is never enough
always want more,even though you have achieved great shot
Could also have something to do with the fact that your trying to display a 5760 by 3240 (6mp 16:9[I don't remember the 8mp 4:3 or 16:9 dimentions]) on an 854 by 480 screen. Hell of a lot of downsizing there. For the voewfinder AND the gallery/mediascape viewing.
From my X10a running WB CM 6.1.3 V054
There is a section called "XPERIA X10 Q&A" that says "For all of your questions about the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10"
So if you want to ask a question do it there and leave this section clean of trash...
Hi,
I am planning to purchase a Dell Streak but I have a few questions before choosing it.
I have read that the camera is really bad - since i used to shoot photos with my phone, will the streak suit me especially when taking pictures during the evening/night indoors (in a restaurant, at a party...etc)? How about the flash - is it really useless and weak?
Also, how is the video recording during the night and in low light conditions? Is the video choppy and the frames are skipped at times? Is the video watchable and most importantly can it been shown to people without being embarassed at the video quality?
I am a big fan of the streak's big screen but I would like to know more about the camera photos/videos before making a definite choice. What are your opinions?
Thanks people!!
Note :I forgot to ask: does the streak feel heavy? I mean if you hold the phone when on bed for 1-2hrs, do you feel any strain/pain in your arms afterwards? I just noticed the streak is 220g!!
i love this phone for everything except the camera
Gud when light is good but in low light its terrible.
( i prefer my wife's iphone to take pics in low light. )
Camera is acceptable, but camcoder is terrible. and this is the only issue I have with dell streak.the rest of it is awesome. I love its screen when you look at under sunlight, impressive.
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drgopoos said:
i love this phone for everything except the camera
Gud when light is good but in low light its terrible.
( i prefer my wife's iphone to take pics in low light. )
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Argh,if the iphone (i guess you mean the 2g/3g) camera is better than the streak, then this is a big problem since the iphone's pic quality is not that great itself, and if the streak is behind the iphone, I can't imagine what crappy results to expect when shooting pics or recording movies in low light...wow!! this is really unexpected!
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Camera is acceptable, but camcoder is terrible. and this is the only issue I have with dell streak.
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What about the videos - are they really choppy and skip frames and lag at times? I've watched some videos on youtube and the video quality in low light seems very bad with lag all over and are choppy.
coming from an iphone 3g the 3g's camera is definitely better, when it's a bright outdoor day.
the 3g is just as bad as the streak indoors with low light conditions. the streak has a led flash which helps a bit, but leds arnt ever as bright as xenon flashes (but you can leave the led on, i use mine more as a flashlight than as a camera flash)
If you're going to use a phone camera for low-light photos, the Streak is not the one for you. I think if the photos are immportant to you, stick with a P&S camera.
However, if you want nice phone with 5" screen, there are no others.
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well this is really a dilemma...i really like the huge screen since I check my mails hourly/surf the web a lot and the streak seems destined for these tasks...but on the other side, the camera is a really let down. I come from a htc hd2 with a powerful dual LED flash, and have used a nokia n8/n73/sony k800/satio which took great pics in low light, and I don't know if I will adapt to the streak's camera since it seems to be more mediocre than the phones I've used.
Still the choice is a real difficult one - big screen vs camera...haven't decided yet.
screen for sure! camera is ok
i went from iphone4 to streak and havent looked back, the camera isnt as good and compares to my iphone 3g that i have for backup, if you want a really good camera on a phone then you have to go with the iphone4
as for browsing, i love to browse on the streak, its so much nicer then on the small iphone screen.
I sold my iPhone 4 to get a Streak and now I woner why I didn't just get a Streak to begin with. Pictures are not that big of a deal to me, but the ones I have taken have been satisfactory. Noticed some lag when panning quickly when taking video, but if I remember correctly, the iPhone 4 had the same issue.
I just got the dell streak. Coming from an Iphone 3gs and my wife has an iphine 4. In terms of quality of the pictures the Iphone 4 is much better particularly in indoor situations. The streak is perfectly acceptable in well lit areas or outdoors. Indoors and low light not so good even with the flash.
I forgot to ask on the 1st post - does the streak feel heavy? I mean if you hold the phone when on bed for 1-2hrs, do you feel any strain/pain in your arms afterwards? I just noticed the streak is 220g!!
I don't find it that heavy, I hold it in one hand and use the other to touch the screen. I also hold it both hands and use my thumb to navigate. It's heavier than most phones, but still very holdable !
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I just recently got my streak coming from a sony ericson xperia x10. I'm on the stock 2.2 baseband 347. so far I've rooted it and absolutely love it. I dont think I could ever go back to anything smaller than 5 inches for my next phone. I also own a viewsonic g-tablet and the streak is the best of both worlds, a powerful android phone with the size and feel of a portable tablet
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Final5k said:
Hi,
....I have read that the camera is really bad - since i used to shoot photos with my phone, will the streak suit me especially when taking pictures during the evening/night indoors (in a restaurant, at a party...etc)? How about the flash - is it really useless and weak?
Also, how is the video recording during the night and in low light conditions? Is the video choppy and the frames are skipped at times? Is the video watchable and most importantly can it been shown to people without being embarassed at the video quality?
I am a big fan of the streak's big screen but I would like to know more about the camera photos/videos before making a definite choice. What are your opinions? ....
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I can understand the desire to have a convenient all-in-one solution, but if you value the quality of your photos and vids, you should use a camera and not a phone.
I just don't think you're going to be able to find a phone that's as good a camera, as it is a phone. There's going to have to be a trade-off somewhere. I know that when we 'know' we're going to want to take, keep and show good vid or photos; we bring the camera.
jholmes5 said:
I can understand the desire to have a convenient all-in-one solution, but if you value the quality of your photos and vids, you should use a camera and not a phone.
I just don't think you're going to be able to find a phone that's as good a camera, as it is a phone. There's going to have to be a trade-off somewhere. I know that when we 'know' we're going to want to take, keep and show good vid or photos; we bring the camera.
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Not true. There exist there economical phones (s-e mainly) with truly magnificent cameras. And the phone functionality is so much better than any smartphone.
And i do not believe that when buying a 500 euro 5inch phone, it is acceptable to have a next-to-horrible camera.
i too am considering getting it second hand and the only thing that gives me piece is that there could never be a worse camera that the one i have now in htc's touch pro 2
Get the Dell Streak. Its the best of both worlds. Tab/phone
The phone is great, but the camcorder sucks! Pictures are ok quality, video is just terrible. If you want a better camera, wait for the newer phones, the ones that are about to come out seem pretty good in that department, also since nokia and M$ are joining forces, expect some super duper phone that will blow you away within a year or so. You could always get the Streak as a temporary phone, then sell it, after all, it's kind of cheap for what it can do.
If you are getting the Dell Streak 5. A bluetooth earpiece is a must. You cannot unlock the phone with one hand while driving.
And a stereo bluetooth is a perfect combo with the streak for calls, music, watching vids..