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[Q] Does Rom Manager do me any good?

I installed unrevoked 3 to root my phone and then downloaded Rom Manager. Rom Manager wants to install ClockworkMod Recovery, but it already got installed with unrevoked. Should I let it reinstall it? Is there any reason for me to use Rom Manager on my phone if I have unrevoked 3 rooting?

Unrevoked 3 gives you clockworkmod so you can flash a new ROM. After flashing a Rom, clockwork goes away. ROM Manager gives you access to clockwork at all times. Also, you can download and flash CM6 from it. I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that it keeps track of all your nandoid back-ups. So really, how many times will you be changing ROMs, and how many back-ups will you have? If you flash ROMs alot, keep ROM Manager. Otherwise, you might not need it.
Hope it helps ~ Pete

PiratePetey said:
Unrevoked 3 gives you clockworkmod so you can flash a new ROM. After flashing a Rom, clockwork goes away. ROM Manager gives you access to clockwork at all times. Also, you can download and flash CM6 from it. I shouldn't even have to mention the fact that it keeps track of all your nandoid back-ups. So really, how many times will you be changing ROMs, and how many back-ups will you have? If you flash ROMs alot, keep ROM Manager. Otherwise, you might not need it.
Hope it helps ~ Pete
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Clockwork does not "go away" after flashing with Unrevoked once you've flashed a ROM. It replaces stock recovery.

Yea, I actually agree because I just used Clockworkmod to flash CM6 without using RomManager at all. I even made my backup with Clockworkmod - not RomManager. I fail to see why I need RomManager at all and again I'm looking for advice as to what it does that I can't do with clockworkmod directly (backup, flash rom, unmount, etc.)

Does ROM Manager Do Me Any Good?
echodun said:
I installed unrevoked 3 to root my phone and then downloaded Rom Manager. Rom Manager wants to install ClockworkMod Recovery, but it already got installed with unrevoked. Should I let it reinstall it? Is there any reason for me to use Rom Manager on my phone if I have unrevoked 3 rooting?
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This reflects my opinion only:
I installed ROM manager, and yes it does have some pretty cool features that can be run from a single screen. Like you, I noticed that it immediately wanted to install clockwork Mod, the exact same version I was already running. I noticed after installing it that it also self installed multiple files and folders. My concern is purely from a security perspective. The icon for the app itself speaks volumes to me! After uninstalling it, I noticed that several files and a folder with an app called download.apk remained on the phone. Along with several other files and folders in the clockwork folder.
Personally, I would be very reluctant to make any credit card purchases or do any smartphone banking after installing this app. I re-rooted and re-flashed my ROM, including re-formatting the SD partition and extended partition, all cache, and wiped the phone to make sure I eliminated every element of ROM manager.
I have found that I can do almost everything through ClockworkMod, but I have to manually download anything I want to flash first.
Again, this reflects my opinion and preferences.

echodun said:
Yea, I actually agree because I just used Clockworkmod to flash CM6 without using RomManager at all. I even made my backup with Clockworkmod - not RomManager. I fail to see why I need RomManager at all and again I'm looking for advice as to what it does that I can't do with clockworkmod directly (backup, flash rom, unmount, etc.)
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Theres nothing you can do with rom manager that you can't do manually with clockwork or terminal emulator. Clockwork just makes doing those things more convenient. I always flash roms and do nandroids via clockwork and I don't use the other features enough to make rom manager useful for me.

I only use ROM Manager for the fix permissions option.

i also think you can rename your backups with ROM Manager, but i still dont use it.
How would we do this otherwise? If i remember correctly, its not as simple as renaming the folder

It doesn't even give me the option to uninstall from the GUI. Did you have to remove it via command line or is there a better way?

Typing fix_permissions into terminal emulator will rum fix permissions.
dexmix said:
i also think you can rename your backups with ROM Manager, but i still dont use it.
How would we do this otherwise? If i remember correctly, its not as simple as renaming the folder
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You can mount your sd card as storage and rename then with your computer. You can also do it via astro or some other file manager on your phone.
Jimmeh83 said:
It doesn't even give me the option to uninstall from the GUI. Did you have to remove it via command line or is there a better way?
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What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.

What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
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Righto, thanks.

CallMeAria said:
What I do is delete the apps I don't want before I install the rom. Just unzip it, go into the apps folder and delete the apps you don't want and then rezip it all. You can do this on your computer our with astro. Otherwise you have to use cmd prompts.
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Nice! If I'd have known it was that easy, I would have been doing that all along. So will this work both ways, could I just as easily add an APK that I wanted?

armyengineer51 said:
Nice! If I'd have known it was that easy, I would have been doing that all along. So will this work both ways, could I just as easily add an APK that I wanted?
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Yep you just paste the .apk's into the /system/app folder before you re-zip the rom. I have a couple apps that I add before I install a rom.

CallMeAria said:
Yep you just paste the .apk's into the /system/app folder before you re-zip the rom. I have a couple apps that I add before I install a rom.
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Fan-freakin-tastic, thanks for that little tidbit!

APK application not installed

I am using root explorer to copy the city id and 3g hotspot apk from my sd card to system /app but every time I try to install I get application not installed. I changed permissions and everything. I do not know what I am doing wrong. I un installed them with titanium and want to restore them. I did a backup but did not see an option to reinstall. So, I just downloaded the apk's and am doing it this way.

Where did you get the apk's? I need the City id
Sent from my DROID PRO using XDA App

joeld82 said:
Where did you get the apk's? I need the City id
Sent from my DROID PRO using XDA App
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Here is where I downloaded the cityid apk. Hope it helps. I do not even know if it was the right one. They are for the Droid X but I assumed since they are similar it would work but I can not ge it to install to my system /app
http://www.chadhaney.com/droidXDefault/

APK doesn't install
Yes, there's something strange going on with the TAB.
I get "application not installed" when I try to reinstall the mail app. I've also tried moving the APK into the system/app folder but it won't even with r/w access.
I've also tried installing with adb, but that throws INSTALL_FAILED_DEXOPT.
The same file installs fine on my HTC Desire.
I used Superoneclick to root the TAB, and terminal seems to get su without problem, but I think there's something I'm missing.
Any help gratefully received.

manually installing a app

hey guys
does anyone know how i can manually install the back up and restore app, im running a custom ROM that does not have it, i downloaded it from m.sonyericsson.com/backup
but it wont isntall, just says application not install, but i really want all my contacts back
how can i manually install it using the extracted files from the .apk
thankyou

use something like Astro or Titanium backup to restore/manually install it

i tryed going to the apk with astro and root explorer, still says not installed.
also tryed putting in system/app and installing it

aussiesausage said:
i tryed going to the apk with astro and root explorer, still says not installed.
also tryed putting in system/app and installing it
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Try under Settings, Applications - check Unknown Sources, under Development check Allow mock.
Can also try Sideload Wonder Machine.
My AT&T had locked out non Market apps, took some time to get right combination.

try installing via PC using ADB command in cmd.

aussiesausage said:
i tryed going to the apk with astro and root explorer, still says not installed.
also tryed putting in system/app and installing it
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It seems to me, MyPhoneExplorer can do both things - I mean backup/restore and app install.

Tony_C said:
Try under Settings, Applications - check Unknown Sources, under Development check Allow mock.
Can also try Sideload Wonder Machine.
My AT&T had locked out non Market apps, took some time to get right combination.
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ok will try that setting
WindGhost said:
try installing via PC using ADB command in cmd.
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what the hell is that lol
Che Kirila said:
It seems to me, MyPhoneExplorer can do both things - I mean backup/restore and app install.
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can it restore from a backup that was created with restore and back up though?

aussiesausage said:
can it restore from a backup that was created with restore and back up though?
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Maybe - it depends on the backup structure. Never tried complete backup, but it allows to chose its own format or vCard or vCalendar formats. So - possible, but I doubt, since it creates an image of whole phone file system - system and user data both.
I think, you can try a trick - to restore original backup/restore package by MyPhoneExplorer and then restore what you need from the backup you have. Original programs you can find in special thread 2.1 System Apps - In Case You've Deleted Them... or just try to download through your phone browser the newest original version of backup/restore from m.sonyericsson.com/backup.

ADB PUSH.. APKs dont run

I cannot figure out how this works nor can i find anything online to help my situation... -___-
I have Cyanogen 7 on my Evo Shift. I pulled out the APKs from the stock ROM that i want to install on my current cyanogen setup for example the camera apk because the one on the new ROM sucks a lot.
I am able to successfully push the apks into the system/app folder.
I can see the apks in the system/app folder using astro
I cannot figure out how to get the apks to run or how to install them, the apps dont appear in the app drawer. what do i need to do to be able to run these Stock apks?

Instead of using ADB Push to place them on the phone, try using ADB Install. That way you won't have to copy the APK and try to run it from your phone. It's done in one step.

Oh yeah. When I tried doing that, I got an error. I can't remember what it was called at the moment. I'm not at my PC

I think the problem is with the apks that you want to install.
AFAIK htc apps like camera need the htc framework to run. So they cannot installed, so you cannot find them, or cannot run because need the htc framework

New Market is out how to install on non rooted Archos 70

I installed the Market apk with the fix last fall, but today I downloaded the new version of Market that brings movie and books to 2.2 or higher and the install failed. Is there a trick to getting this new market on the Archos.
link to new version of market:Android Forum link to market

minterbartolo said:
I installed the Market apk with the fix last fall, but today I downloaded the new version of Market that brings movie and books to 2.2 or higher and the install failed. Is there a trick to getting this new market on the Archos.
link to new version of market:Android Forum link to market
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Installed fine for me(rooted though). What method did you use to install market originally?
P.S. Wow, lots of additions.

msticninja said:
Installed fine for me(rooted though). What method did you use to install market originally?
P.S. Wow, lots of additions.
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I downloaded via dolphin HD browser. clicked on the apk and it warned me "you know you are trying to install a system file yes to proceed" I did and it said install did not work. hit done.

msticninja said:
Installed fine for me(rooted though). What method did you use to install market originally?
P.S. Wow, lots of additions.
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What method did you use to install market originally?

msticninja said:
What method did you use to install market originally?
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sorry I was multitasking and misread your question I used the gAppsintaller method from way back gApps installer thread

I upgraded from version 2.3.6 with no problems.. maybe upgrade to version 2.3.6 first.

minterbartolo said:
sorry I was multitasking and misread your question I used the gAppsintaller method from way back gApps installer thread
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Make sure Install from Unknown Sources is checked in the Applications menu, though I think the message would say this if that was the problem. Then try deleting the market apk from /data/test/froyo/system/app (I think that's the location, look around in there for it), then reinstalling with the downloaded apk. If it still won't install, try copying the downloaded apk to the location you deleted the original market apk from, and see if market shows up again.

msticninja said:
Make sure Install from Unknown Sources is checked in the Applications menu, though I think the message would say this if that was the problem. Then try deleting the market apk from /data/test/froyo/system/app (I think that's the location, look around in there for it), then reinstalling with the downloaded apk. If it still won't install, try copying the downloaded apk to the location you deleted the original market apk from, and see if market shows up again.
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I searched using Astro and the only file with market in the name is
/system/app/0MarketUpdater.apk I tried uninstall, no joy. I try long hold using astro to delete, no joy. I went to settings/applications uninstalled gAppinstaller rebooted tried to install the apk no joy. I have no option to uninstall market (system/applications say version 1.82 when I go to details)
so I am open to suggestions on how to update the market app.

minterbartolo said:
I searched using Astro and the only file with market in the name is
/system/app/0MarketUpdater.apk I tried uninstall, no joy. I try long hold using astro to delete, no joy. I went to settings/applications uninstalled gAppinstaller rebooted tried to install the apk no joy. I have no option to uninstall market (system/applications say version 1.82 when I go to details)
so I am open to suggestions on how to update the market app.
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You can't mess with anything on /system without root. That's just a shortcut anyways. The file has to be in /data/test somewhere. It could also be called vending.apk.

Can you post the file here please.
Thanks
Matt

msiviter said:
Can you post the file here please.
Thanks
Matt
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Here:
http://www.multiupload.com/2TRUW4L630

1) Install zipsigner 2
2) Download New Market apk
3) Go to zipsigner 2 app and click Choose In/Out and look for com.android.vending1.apk, click it.
4) Select "Platform" under Key/mode
5) Sign the file
6) You will see the new name for this app appeared as "com.android.vending-1-signed.apk"
7) Through back button go to menu and open your es File Explorer or Astro and look for "com.android.vending-1-signed.apk" (make sure you are looking for the App which has word "signed" in it.)
8) Install the App and launch it

why so complicated?
In Orginal Archos Android:
1. Rename to Vending.apk.
2. use RootExplorer or Terminal to copy it to /data/test/froyo/system/app/Vending.apk
3. Reboot
In Uruk or CM7:
1. Rename to Vending.apk.
2. use RootExplorer or Terminal to copy it to /system/app/Vending.apk
3. Reboot

does anyone know how to get all the apps working in the market using cm7?
ive tried updating the fingerprint in build.prop and im still getting limited apps.
maybe im missing something??
let me know...
thanks

darren1 said:
1) Install zipsigner 2
2) Download New Market apk
3) Go to zipsigner 2 app and click Choose In/Out and look for com.android.vending1.apk, click it.
4) Select "Platform" under Key/mode
5) Sign the file
6) You will see the new name for this app appeared as "com.android.vending-1-signed.apk"
7) Through back button go to menu and open your es File Explorer or Astro and look for "com.android.vending-1-signed.apk" (make sure you are looking for the App which has word "signed" in it.)
8) Install the App and launch it
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Thank you. It worked perfectly simply

For me it worked by just install the apk..
I use urukdroid on the openAOS boot menu
Dont work this for you?

You can use the latest Arctools from arctablet.com
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/archos-tablet/android-market-3-0-26-archos-gen8-devices/
Looks like it does everything for you.

darren1 said:
You can use the latest Arctools from arctablet.com
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/archos-tablet/android-market-3-0-26-archos-gen8-devices/
Looks like it does everything for you.
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does it work with cyanogen though?
notice they are using stock.
ive tried this yesterday and it didnt work but i see the updated the post today
ill try it again

Lenn said:
For me it worked by just install the apk..
I use urukdroid on the openAOS boot menu
Dont work this for you?
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I couldn't get it to install from apk using Archangel root method.

dtr145r said:
does it work with cyanogen though?
notice they are using stock.
ive tried this yesterday and it didnt work but i see the updated the post today
ill try it again
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I don't know im afraid.