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I just went to the Sprint store and...

I just went to the Sprint store (< 20 min ago) to have them look at my EVO to see if the 4G radio was broken, simply because I rarely get a 4G signal, even in places marked 5 bars on Sprint's website. Anyway, the guy there said that the discrepancy was to be fixed by an update (when I asked what kind of update, he would only say: "from HTC") within the next couple of weeks. Supposedly this update will bring 4G performance in line with Sprint's coverage maps. He also said that Sprint Corporate finished training yesterday on the use of 2.2 on the EVO, which he told me was done being developed and soon to be released. He said that "2.2" will also increase WiMax range. When I asked him to confirm that 2.2 meant Froyo, he said yes.
So it appears that WiMax is about to get a huge range boost and Froyo is about to be released.

So it looks like Sprint is stepping up its support for this phone quite a bit. Great news that were not being abandoned until at least 2.2 has been out for a while.

I would not believe a word any sprint store employee says except maybe derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Yeah, unfortunately sprint store employees more often than not, are talking out their arse. I wish we could believe him, but even HTC only said "by Christmas".

froyo for evo in Q4 2010/Q1 2011 if were lucky.

By Christmas only means it will be sometime before Christmas people and even then it was about all of their devices including the Slide

While I don't think we'll get it before Q4, I can see HTC's reasoning behind saying Christmas.
That gives them a big window to release it. If they deliver early, people are stoked. If they fall behind, they have a nice buffer to stay within their promised date.
Better than promising by the end of Q3 and then having a problem crop up and not release until Q4.

People are still listening to in-store employees

I don't know where this Froyo gut is being held, but I think he should be released as soon as possible. If he's being held in N Korea, we should send al Gore to negotiate for his immediate release.
This is inhuman and I hope eveyone will write their congressman.

GaryJ51 said:
I don't know where this Froyo gut is being held, but I think he should be released as soon as possible. If he's being held in N Korea, we should send al Gore to negotiate for his immediate release.
This is inhuman and I hope eveyone will write their congressman.
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*Tumbleweed*

Don't lump all of us Sprint store employees together like that please. There are plenty of us who know exactly what we are talking about. The people making up stuff just to sound important or impress people are not the norm.
I can tell you that we have received no official training or word on 2.2 or Froyo in the stores. The only official word is what has already been said about Christmas from HTC. I wish there was, I really, really do.
I used an early build from darch on my old hero and liked the speed, can't wait for that on the Evo.
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stillryan said:
Don't lump all of us Sprint store employees together like that please. There are plenty of us who know exactly what we are talking about. The people making up stuff just to sound important or impress people are not the norm.
I can tell you that we have received no official training or word on 2.2 or Froyo in the stores. The only official word is what has already been said about Christmas from HTC. I wish there was, I really, really do.
I used an early build from darch on my old hero and liked the speed, can't wait for that on the Evo.
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There are always exceptions, don't take it personal

vbyt said:
I would not believe a word any sprint store employee says except maybe derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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this is correct

Not taking it personal. It just gets old hearing the same old crappy about Sprint. I know the company earned the bad rep, but a lot if the people who still cling onto those perceptions haven't tried Sprint in years.
Oh well, it's so much easier to ruin a rep than rebuild an already bad one.
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stillryan said:
Not taking it personal. It just gets old hearing the same old crappy about Sprint. I know the company earned the bad rep, but a lot if the people who still cling onto those perceptions haven't tried Sprint in years.
Oh well, it's so much easier to ruin a rep than rebuild an already bad one.
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I'm totally happy with Sprint after stints with ATT and Tmobile. Never tried Verizon.
I will say the Sprint store in Daytona Beach has to be THE worst of the worst. I only go in there to check out a phone on display. That store really does hurt Sprint's reputation in the local market place.

masbirdies said:
I'm totally happy with Sprint after stints with ATT and Tmobile. Never tried Verizon.
I will say the Sprint store in Daytona Beach has to be THE worst of the worst. I only go in there to check out a phone on display. That store really does hurt Sprint's reputation in the local market place.
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you should tell sprint corporate that and give suggestions on how to make it better.

I hate you Samsung.

So they say the Galaxy S will sell 10,000,000 units be the end of this year. Let's just say they make $100 profit on each unit sold. That's what? $1,000,000,000. Now you're telling me that you can't even provide me with a simple update. I'll tell you what if I could afford to take this phone and shove it some Samsung exec you know where I would. I would love to blame it on Sprint but I can't because no other carrier in the U.S. has it either. This is the first and last Samsung product I buy mobile phone or otherwise. I am done......
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I lol'd
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Ya same sentiment here guy. I was going to get my wife an Epic come feb when her upgrade is available but instead I'm getting her a EVO Shift 4G (she wants a keyboard) because I'm pretty sure that even if it comes with 2.2.1 it'll get upgraded to gingerbread before I ever get official 2.2.1 =D

bans incoming

Elite11b said:
So they say the Galaxy S will sell 10,000,000 units be the end of this year. Let's just say they make $100 profit on each unit sold. That's what? $1,000,000,000. Now you're telling me that you can't even provide me with a simple update. I'll tell you what if I could afford to take this phone and shove it some Samsung exec you know where I would. I would love to blame it on Sprint but I can't because no other carrier in the U.S. has it either. This is the first and last Samsung product I buy mobile phone or otherwise. I am done......
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Blame it on Sprint..why you ask? Froyo is everywhere in international markets and not in US because ALL the US carriers are slow...yes ALL of them...the international community always:
1) gets new phones before us
2) gets updates before us
Just cause 1 turtle is generally faster then the other turtles does not change the fact that the rabbits already passed the goal ages ago...
In reality if people were to flame sprint enough and not Samsung..Sprint could easily force samsung to update a phone even if samsung didn't want to...why don't they? cause sprint doesn't care enough and ppl blame samsung anyways so what do they care?

gTen said:
Blame it on Sprint..why you ask? Froyo is everywhere in international markets and not in US because ALL the US carriers are slow...yes ALL of them...the international community always:
1) gets new phones before us
2) gets updates before us
Just cause 1 turtle is generally faster then the other turtles does not change the fact that the rabbits already passed the goal ages ago...
In reality if people were to flame sprint enough and not Samsung..Sprint could easily force samsung to update a phone even if samsung didn't want to...why don't they? cause sprint doesn't care enough and ppl blame samsung anyways so what do they care?
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Canada, the UK and Australia just started updating in the last two weeks so it is not just in the U.S. that the release was slow. It is not clear who's fault it is but I blame both. If nothing else, blame Sprint for not communicating better and for not getting a better contract with Samsung for updates after the screw up with updates for the Moment and blame Samsung because even when they started to roll out an update in Canada, it started bricking phones and had to be pulled. 7 months after Google released 2.2, Samsung should be able to put out nearly perfect updates.

raylusk said:
Canada, the UK and Australia just started updating in the last two weeks so it is not just in the U.S. that the release was slow. It is not clear who's fault it is but I blame both. If nothing else, blame Sprint for not communicating better and for not getting a better contract with Samsung for updates after the screw up with updates for the Moment and blame Samsung because even when they started to roll out an update in Canada, it started bricking phones and had to be pulled. 7 months after Google released 2.2, Samsung should be able to put out nearly perfect updates.
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While the bricking is Samsung's fault it is not uncommon...HTC had quite a few bricks on the EVO and they pulled the upgrade...when they tested it theirs did not brick so they assumed it was fine and deployed it...once issues arose they pulled it..came back a week later with everything fixed...
Either way..can you explain how UK, Canada and Australia were able to do it by end of year and sprint couldn't?

raylusk said:
Canada, the UK and Australia just started updating in the last two weeks so it is not just in the U.S. that the release was slow. It is not clear who's fault it is but I blame both. If nothing else, blame Sprint for not communicating better and for not getting a better contract with Samsung for updates after the screw up with updates for the Moment and blame Samsung because even when they started to roll out an update in Canada, it started bricking phones and had to be pulled. 7 months after Google released 2.2, Samsung should be able to put out nearly perfect updates.
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It's ****ing Samsung! They will never have a near perfect release... they have short school bus employees. I ****ing will never buy anything Samsung again... also hope their kids die in a ****ing road accident and then the remains get eaten by coyotes, so they can't even have an open casket funeral.
But then again, that's just me.

I was looking at the shift also, then I saw the speculated off contract price. 50 bucks more than the epic but it's hardware isn't as "good" as the epic. One of the sites I was reading said their opinion was sprint waited on this phone too long and it's specs are mediocre. Pay 550 for a midrange phone? I bet 4g is the only reason the price is jacked up on this one. My opinion, that phone isn't worth how much they might sell it for. Way overpriced!
All my luck, I'd buy another evo and a month later sprint would have another top end phone to replace the evo. Oh yeah, if they have 2.1 on the shift, then that's another excuse for it to be a waste of my time. Notice how some of the names for these phones are just so easy to make fun of? Epic fail, htc shift (minus the f).

herbthehammer said:
I was looking at the shift also, then I saw the speculated off contract price. 50 bucks more than the epic but it's hardware isn't as "good" as the epic. One of the sites I was reading said their opinion was sprint waited on this phone too long and it's specs are mediocre. Pay 550 for a midrange phone? I bet 4g is the only reason the price is jacked up on this one. My opinion, that phone isn't worth how much they might sell it for. Way overpriced!
All my luck, I'd buy another evo and a month later sprint would have another top end phone to replace the evo. Oh yeah, if they have 2.1 on the shift, then that's another excuse for it to be a waste of my time. Notice how some of the names for these phones are just so easy to make fun of? Epic fail, htc shift (minus the f).
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Well actually the Shift's specs are on par with an EVO..mayeb even slightly better due to the generation 2 snapdragon..but I do agree that its a mid range phone these days (like the EVO lol)

gTen said:
While the bricking is Samsung's fault it is not uncommon...HTC had quite a few bricks on the EVO and they pulled the upgrade...when they tested it theirs did not brick so they assumed it was fine and deployed it...once issues arose they pulled it..came back a week later with everything fixed...
Either way..can you explain how UK, Canada and Australia were able to do it by end of year and sprint couldn't?
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Yeah but big difference. Htc released the update just over 2 months after froyo was released. Samsung released the Canadian update 7 months after froyo and they still couldn't get it right.
Samsung also said that they released froyo to the UK carriers in Oct. And expected it to be released to consumers in early November. It didn't get released until mid December. Sounds to me like maybe their was a big flaw and it had to go back to samsung.
There is no way to know for sure who is at fault but I am going to blame both. I think the manufactures and carriers work together on these updates and they both have to share responsibility for the success or failure of their efforts.
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raylusk said:
Yeah but big difference. Htc released the update just over 2 months after froyo was released. Samsung released the Canadian update 7 months after froyo and they still couldn't get it right.
Samsung also said that they released froyo to the UK carriers in Oct. And expected it to be released to consumers in early November. It didn't get released until mid December. Sounds to me like maybe their was a big flaw and it had to go back to samsung.
There is no way to know for sure who is at fault but I am going to blame both. I think the manufactures and carriers work together on these updates and they both have to share responsibility for the success or failure of their efforts.
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But see the reason why the EVO was updated so fast was due to pressure from Sprint to be the first one...so while they both hold responsibility..putting pressure on sprint is 10x more effective then putting pressure on samsung...
see notice most people who give up respond by saying:
"thats it im not buying another samsung device ever again"
but no one is saying
"thats it im not buying another sprint device again"
Now true that other carriers didn't release upgrades either for their Galaxy S phones...but at same time..Sprint doesn't care if you buy an HTC, EVO or Samsung as long as your paying their monthly bill...
I just think the carriers need to be put under more pressure...lets take the moment for example...they said it doesn't have hardware for froyo..which is a lie because its 95% same hardware as Intercept and Transform...people complained to samsung to no evail..if people complained and blamed sprint...you'd see Froyo out the door in no time for the Moment...
In US carriers are king, and they are the ones that need to be pressured to get things done..

Meh, just do the ext4 conversion, and download the latest quantum rom. It's stable, fast, and overall just great. After you do this, you'll stop complaining about an update. I'm perfectly happy as it is, and in absolutely no rush.
Sent from my Happy Epic on Quantum 2.5 with Ext4 on Froyo DK28.

Some people are in it for the principle. I want more support on my device that I shed so much money about because supposely it is the best. The device sounds good on paper, trying to view online stuff without flash sucks.
Samsung and sprint sucks!

bondosho said:
Meh, just do the ext4 conversion, and download the latest quantum rom. It's stable, fast, and overall just great. After you do this, you'll stop complaining about an update. I'm perfectly happy as it is, and in absolutely no rush.
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The thing is, the devs really need the source code for the froyo kernels if they are going to do anything with it.

LOL I got banned from #samsung-epic for voicing these same feelings. It's a shame. I should have did a bit more studying before I took the plunge. Whenever I get my next phone it will probably be an HTC device.

sauron0101 said:
The thing is, the devs really need the source code for the froyo kernels if they are going to do anything with it.
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Oh I see. So peple sign up to XDA just to *****? All this time I thought it was to root your device, and try out all the customization available. Guess I'll unregister .
/sarcasm
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Im so glad i got the balls enough to flash a custom rom. I can enjoy everything and it runs smooth on Viper Heaven Rom. Samsung can eat a fat babys balls 4reeal. Id rather support these developers froyo than the across the water clowns samsung.
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gTen said:
Blame it on Sprint..why you ask? Froyo is everywhere in international markets and not in US because ALL the US carriers are slow...yes ALL of them...the international community always:
1) gets new phones before us
2) gets updates before us
Just cause 1 turtle is generally faster then the other turtles does not change the fact that the rabbits already passed the goal ages ago...
In reality if people were to flame sprint enough and not Samsung..Sprint could easily force samsung to update a phone even if samsung didn't want to...why don't they? cause sprint doesn't care enough and ppl blame samsung anyways so what do they care?
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Do you know why? Because us Americans are a bunch of whiny *****es who go into cardiac arrest when we find out that we have to pay more than $19.99 for a cell phone, need our hands constantly held and for whatever reason, expect that phone companies owe us the world. Ooh, also because for whatever reason phone companies refuse to implement bunch of features that GSM and CDMA networks support. Why can't I have two lines on a single SIM card like I had in Europe? I'm taking to you AT&T and T-Mobile. Why are we just now getting features that Japanese and Korean networks had years ago? Simply, there is no market for advanced phones here.
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Frankly I don't care who's fault it is. Both Companies profit off of users buying/owning an Epic, therefore both should bust ass and get the update out. If I received this type of service at a restraunt... forget about it.
I talked to the Denver District Sprint Store Manager today nd he said he talked to his boss and got the reason the epic wasn't getting an update yet... Sprint ID. There are apparently integration issues, then it was removed, added, removed, yada yada. Apparently Froyo for Epic was ready to be released ota on the 26th but when push came to shove the sprint ID was having issues, so the update was pulled.
Not sure how true this is... but so help me if Sprint ID is the holdup... I don't want that **** on my phone anyway..
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Tmobile reps and their stories

Ok so I went to a tmo store and ask when will they roll out the update and one told me in august. however someone here said reps told him the update will roll out in the end of june. Any one really know when will the update roll out?
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Wrong thread...
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+1 why is this in the development section ?

What does sales have to do with Rom development. This is getting old. I think only senior members or devs be able to post threads in development section. Sorry
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313dash said:
What does sales have to do with Rom development. This is getting old. I think only senior members or devs be able to post threads in development section. Sorry
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The sad thing is he is a senior member you'd think he'd know better by now... oh well

I'm pretty new to xda, and I have low posts, and the way I see it is I'm no dev, so I don't need to start a thread, I enjoy commenting though and random threads in the dev section annoy me too, so I agree + 1 for us noobs not needing to start new threads in dev
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The really sad thing is that people listen or even care what tmo "reps" think or say.... they don't know anymore then what you can find on the net.
P.s. wrong section!
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It's possible he just happened to click the wrong sub-section.

Mybad I was gonna post it in G2 general section but I though I did click that one sorry. And about that they said that tmo always will wait to see how it is in the sensation and than roll out the update by august
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shortlived said:
The really sad thing is that people listen or even care what tmo "reps" think or say.... they don't know anymore then what you can find on the net.
P.s. wrong section!
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Well yu gotta listen to someone and tmo is the one who provided me the phone so one should expect them to know about their own stuff more than anyone else and even the internet
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androidfeen809 said:
Well yu gotta listen to someone and tmo is the one who provided me the phone so one should expect them to know about their own stuff more than anyone else and even the internet
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Not exactly. I used to work for T-Mobile. I used to find out about new phones on Google faster then through T-Mobile. I don't want to say anything bad but most reps don't know anything.

A T-Mobile rep at Best Buy told me my G2 wasn't capable of 4G speeds... In other words never trust rep talk. Just look it up here or some decent website like Pocketnow.

This thread's stories remind me of that newegg.com commercial where that sales rep is clueless on laptop specs.
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This thread's stories remind me of that newegg.com commercial where that sales rep is clueless on laptop specs.
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That reminds me of my trip to Best-Buy the other day. Associate tried to tell me the HP Dre Beats laptop was more powerful for gaming because it came with a mini-subwoofer. I do not kid.

Kevinik said:
A T-Mobile rep at Best Buy told me my G2 wasn't capable of 4G speeds... In other words never trust rep talk. Just look it up here or some decent website like Pocketnow.
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As strange as it seems to you, he was actually correct. 4G was intended to mean LTE-ADVANCED, something like 100 Mbps.
But a bunch of the douchebag carriers started marketing their services as "4G" even though they didn't come ANYWHERE NEAR that.... so 4G was re-defined to be nothing more than HSPA (or equivalent). Basically, 3G and 4G are the same thing now.

dhkr234 said:
As strange as it seems to you, he was actually correct. 4G was intended to mean LTE-ADVANCED, something like 100 Mbps.
But a bunch of the douchebag carriers started marketing their services as "4G" even though they didn't come ANYWHERE NEAR that.... so 4G was re-defined to be nothing more than HSPA (or equivalent). Basically, 3G and 4G are the same thing now.
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If that is the case...Then all of the carriers are lying. None of the company's that are saying "4G" are hitting 100Mbps. The rep from Best-Buy didn't know what he was talking about. He didn't mean LTE-Advanced either. He was just trying to sound like he knew what he was talking about. We know what true "4G" is but for now we have to settle with the "4G" that is given to us.

LOL Yeah I really like the T-Mo reps... really nice people and never had a bad experience... but most of them know nothing of their products. To be fair, I think many of these people don't really have a "passion" for this stuff as most of us obviously do, so to them its likely a job and a paycheck. I remember when I got my MyTouch 3G, (my first smartphone) I asked a rep what the weird digitized blocks were on an app brochure, and he told me they were typos, most likely blobs of ink from the printers. Turns out they were QR codes.

I am a T-mobile sales rep. Corporate does not give front line employees info on release dates and software upgrades until the last possible moment. When the new rate plans started this past Sunday there were not any rateplan guides in stores.
I get more up to date info on from sites like xda and tmonews way before corporate releases it.
Go easy on reps that share what they have heard, they are trying to be helpful but rumors and are just that. I occasionally get info ahead of time from product reps (like HTC) but things change all the time.

Latest rumor making the rounds is the 2.3 ota for the g2 should be out next week.
We will see how that pans out.

androidfeen809 said:
Ok so I went to a tmo store and ask when will they roll out the update and one told me in august. however someone here said reps told him the update will roll out in the end of june. Any one really know when will the update roll out?
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So what your saying is that you can't believe what a salesperson tells you. I really hope this isn't news to you. I have first hand experience with T-Mobile and their reps and I can tell you that they are for sure salespeople first and some just happen to care. They get information so slowly from Corporate it's kind of mind numbing. Anyone who frequents tech blogs knew about the AT&T merger before T-Mobiles employees. I called the person I know there and they had heard nothing about it. You think they care when the phone they sold you 8 months ago gets the update? Nope.
Technically that is the phone manufacturers domain. T-Mobile really has nothing to do with it. Why do you think it takes 2 years for Samsung to update the Galaxy line which is on multiple carriers. Just Sayin.

Here's something, ermm, interesting.

Saw this as a comment on an androidcentral post about the within:
Listen up and listen good cuz I don't lie or play when it comes to this stuff... Sprint Is kicking but this year and will continue that but kicking like none of you can imagine. I am a sprint employee work at the West Hollywood Store in CA. It's the flagship store for the west coast Dan Hesse frequents our store device's come through our store sometimes up to 5 months before a rumor about it hits the internet. This is a HUGE year for sprint if you understand business in the least bit you know corporate change takes time. If you can't see the changes sprint has made and continue to make for the better than your just blind or don know what to look for. I know some of you may call me bias and your right I am. But only to one thing and that's customer experience. I love that SPRINT by maintaining is price plans is forcing AT& T and T-Mob todo stuff like the 70 dollar unlimited data even if it is capped. Yes thee above pic is the GS2 i've held it. YES it will be 4G yes we are getting a keyboard version as well as the standard GS2. Yes that phone will also be 4G and dual core not single core. The its not for certain it will be the epic2 or called epic at all. Yes the GS2 is a vicious competitor for the Evo 3D from personal experience I still think the Evo 3D is better. I prefer sense over touch anything I trust htc more than samsungs when it comes to mobile anything and the internal update system htc uses not having to wait for sprint like the last two patches they did for the 3d speaks volumes. Add htcsense.com to that and better build quality and you begin to edge out the competition. Admittedly not by much with the GS2 but still its an edge. As far as the YouTube comparisons of the GS2 to the Sensation to gauge it again the 3D, don't make me laugh the 3D itself makes the sensation look the same way. In no way am I denying the amazingness that is the GS2 I just PREFER htc that's all. Last but not least the GS2 is really really fast it was a tad and I do mean a TAD faster than my 3D but..... My Evo is jam packed 6 email accounts syncing about 80 apps 7 custom scenes setup the whole 9 and the GS2 was but naked not even signed into a gmail account. I say that today this when you watch these comparison vids take into account what may or may not be on the devices in question in terms of data info etc... Once you get these devices in hand your speed milage Will vary depending on how much you throw at your device. It's a good time to be with sprint I'm not even going to get into the improvements happening to the network ill save that for another post. And oh yeah in case you were skeptical on the matter we are absolutely getting the iphone so tell all your apple juice drinking buddies that VZ and AT&T's are numbered it'll be here before you know it. The real question is will it be 4G and honestly even I don't have that answer................ Yet. PS if your in the LA area and you want to switch to sprint I can give you 125 dollar port in credit... Yes we pay YOU 125.00 bucks to KEEP your number give me a shout PM me. Duece
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Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

Killer! jumping on that bish like no other lol

Thats a ****in huge wall of text.....but I'm excited for a keyboard galaxy S[exy] variant again and dual core....saving up my money now

Hahaha!!! That GS2 keyboard version is MINE baby the day it hits the floor with its sexy dual-core speed, and I still have my upgrade left so ill get it for the nw contract price...that's a damn beautiful thing....I can't wait to hear about official names and specs for the regular SG2 and the keyboard SG2....this exited me for the phone releases AND. For the service improvements....let's go Sprint baby....to all u otha sucka ass carriers like Gucci Mane said, "you deserve betta baby, betta baby, betta baby!)
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My head hurts.

GS2 with a keyboard...I'm sold
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I trust nothing of what that guy wrote. Everytime someone claims to have advanced knowledge they are wrong completely. Why the eff would sprint bring rumored phones around a retail store before they are even announced? That just makes no sense. I have dealt with enough sprint employees who "have the scoop" and turn out to be collosal nitwits before to believe that some random sprint store employee got the scoop on sprint getting the iphone.
I do think he is a sprint employee though because every sprint employee I have ever dealt with is a huge fanboy of the evo.
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I haven't heard the details he has shared, but my corp rep brought the regional network rep out who knows all the tech updates and all the phone releases. He said the biggest thing sprint has in the pipe is the network updates. Everyone is getting phones, they are rolling out new tower hardware making speeds, signal quality and increase the number of clients able to hit the servers. He told me it would be a 2 year rollout, but we had 36 tower updates last month. He said there are about 40 new devices rolling out and they would rock!
Ill buy what that guy was selling
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I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

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bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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Who doesn't make that mistake every once in a while.
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AJC9000 said:
Thats a ****in huge wall of text.....but I'm excited for a keyboard galaxy S[exy] variant again and dual core....saving up my money now
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Yes!
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bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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of "kicking but" and "kicking butt"

"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.

tpike said:
I haven't heard the details he has shared, but my corp rep brought the regional network rep out who knows all the tech updates and all the phone releases. He said the biggest thing sprint has in the pipe is the network updates. Everyone is getting phones, they are rolling out new tower hardware making speeds, signal quality and increase the number of clients able to hit the servers. He told me it would be a 2 year rollout, but we had 36 tower updates last month. He said there are about 40 new devices rolling out and they would rock!
Ill buy what that guy was selling
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tpike added his credentials to that , so that is good news

The Root said:
"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.
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So very true.
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The Root said:
"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.
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"I helped my uncle jack off a horse."
"I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse."
So does capitalization.
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I work for a regional electronics and appliance chain, that is becoming a full device sprint dealer this fall. At a training event for sales reps the sprint trainer brought up an iphone 5 variant for sprint a few times. Interesting to hear it from this guy as well. Although if I had to guess, they are both misreading it, and all we are likely to see is the new prepaid iphone version coming out for virgin.
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I hate when people say the EVO 3d is a better phone than SG2 even though across the board SG2 eats 3d. Granted htc sense 3.0 is sexy, but MIUI is better

Sprint's overall phone lineup is strong with or without the iPhone. It has been for a while. The issues are that they have to quickly maintain and improve their network and hold prices and plans to the attractive level they are now. I don't believe in corporate hype, I believe in underpromising and overdelivering. Sprint did that in the years I've been with them.
Now they have to continue so they can grow and poach away customers who get sick of being robbed by Verizon and AT&T. But without the network that's going to be even harder to do. Take my neighborhood for example--coverage here is poor, Sprint probably has no customers other than people like me who figured out how to force roam, or those who have Airaves. And it's doubtful any new towers are planned, so they better get busy on these network improvement miracles, because reasonably priced unlimited 4G makes no difference to those who can't get it.

Official Word from HTC: US Release by End of April

Oh well...guess we definitely aren't getting it this month
http://bgr.com/2013/03/22/htc-one-release-date-392552/
HTC has seen unprecedented demand for and interest in the new HTC One, and the care taken to design and build it is evidenced in early reviews. The new HTC One will roll out in the UK, Germany and Taiwan next week and across Europe, North America and most of Asia-Pacific before the end of April. We appreciate our customers’ patience, and believe that once they have the phone in their hands they will agree that it has been worth the wait.
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Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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I'm actually quickly growing tired of the ever longer delays and push-backs. If this keeps up, I'll just get something else. Some of us don't have the luxury of waiting another month because we need a phone asap.

So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice. <-Sarcasm.

ydoucare said:
So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.

NO!!!!
I need one before the 20th for a trip, I don't want to get something else for this. :crying:

Android manufacturers need to fire their planning teams. Every single Android product I have ever bought has been delayed.

bye

ydoucare said:
So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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I hope they have fun trying to convince carriers to advertise their phone over the massively popular GS4.

I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.

Bad move on htc's part. This isnt going to go well for them with the s4 launch.

ratchetjaw said:
Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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Kind of the same for me. I was gettin a hard on for the thing the first few times I saw it and read about it. now I'm kinda leanin towards a gs4
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Jonathon1710 said:
I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.
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LOL how did the end of April already become beginning of May!?

I called to ask about pre-ordering the phone and that's what I was told.
Side Note: I didn't even see this forum topic before I called.

-]Megacharge[- said:
Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.
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Sarcasm fail.

Horrible.

ratchetjaw said:
Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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That's what happens when too much time goes by between announcement and launch; and not just to HTC. The goal should be to build up buzz and then get it in people's hands so word-of-mouth carries the momentum. At launch (or right prior to) is when the big ad spend should kick in to (re)gain and keep attention. Had the schedule stuck they would have been a month ahead of Samsung and not drowned out buy what I'm sure will be Samsung's expansive media spend.
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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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HTC spent $40MM in advertising last year (a pittance). They're going to get lost against Samsung’s budget. The fact that VZW, the largest U.S. carrier, won't have the One (if they get it) until two months after everyone else won't help. The good news for HTC, at least in the U.S., is most people are using subsidized phones so they’re in the market for a new phone when their contract allows them to be. So it's a steady stream of potential customers and the launch euphoria for both the One and SGS4 won't really affect their purchase decision as much as word-of-mouth and how the two phones actually perform.
And HTC fans and Samsung haters are going to buy the One anyway. Just as Samsung fans and HTC haters are going to buy the SGS4; no matter when both are available. People open to both are most likely to be impacted by Samsung's advertising and larger media coverage and the 30 day head start would have helped HTC.

Pretty disappointing. I may be able to wait, but there is absolutely no chance the general population will choose the one over the sgs4 when they see them side by side. Especially after seeing 10000 commercials on tv for the next galaxy phone.
I feel sorry for htc, that was a horrible decision. They're just digging their own grave on this one.
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Dug their own grave you mean. It's over. Still a nice phone but they just lost their chance.
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What happened to "delay will not affect US launch"? smh