hey
1.
just use system panel to kill "ALL" processes include system process
then its will be back to normal mA
[well its better then restarting the phone no ?]
2.
Forgetting to disable bt or gps in winmobile
can cause that too
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remove with titanium backup CSPeopleSyncService [ thx to fruchtfliege ]
dont like apps that cant be controlled and do what they like
4. same apps make drain more in standby i think cos its not really full standby
5. unmount sdcard when u gonna "put ur phone to sleep"
[this one should help a lot but in testing for 8 hours gonna try it on nites]
that doesn't always work, if you don't isolate the cause then the app will re-open itself at times.
as i mentioned in some other threads, the 60ma bug is caused by the process "CSPeopleSyncService". you can kill this process as you wrote, or just disable syncing facebook and google contacts in options. at least i sync them once a day automatically (don't want to loose the sync feature), and the 60ma bug never came back...
fruchtfliege said:
as i mentioned in some other threads, the 60ma bug is caused by the process "CSPeopleSyncService". you can kill this process as you wrote, or just disable syncing facebook and google contacts in options. at least i sync them once a day automatically (don't want to loose the sync feature), and the 60ma bug never came back...
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Might be a nOOb question but how do you kill that CSPeopleSyncService process?
I've been suffering from this 6mA for a couple of minutes and going to 60mA thing. Rebooting 'might' work but I don't want to monitor the consumption every hour.
If you don't feel like disabling sync, Quick Reboot (free in market) is a good alternative. Some builds have hot rebooting built-in, even easier.
Back in the game in less than 30 seconds, as opposed to the rather lengthy full reboot.
StephanV said:
If you don't feel like disabling sync, Quick Reboot (free in market) is a good alternative. Some builds have hot rebooting built-in, even easier.
Back in the game in less than 30 seconds, as opposed to the rather lengthy full reboot.
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LoL just downloaded it. It really says what it does. Click it and the device reboots without a single warning.
lukesan said:
Might be a nOOb question but how do you kill that CSPeopleSyncService process?
I've been suffering from this 6mA for a couple of minutes and going to 60mA thing. Rebooting 'might' work but I don't want to monitor the consumption every hour.
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the best way is a taskkiller. i'm using systempanel light (included in mdj hd builds), where you can add programs and processes to ignore list. but as i said, changing sync to once a day fixed my problem with 60ma in standby completely! i don't know why
StephanV said:
If you don't feel like disabling sync, Quick Reboot (free in market) is a good alternative.
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lukesan said:
LoL just downloaded it. It really says what it does. Click it and the device reboots without a single warning.
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I think he meant fast reboot. It just kills everything so it's as if you've just rebooted (sort of).
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I think he meant fast reboot. It just kills everything so it's as if you've just rebooted (sort of).
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No, I mean Quick Reboot. I'm still not convinced this battery drain is caused by certain processes, so Fast Reboot isn't an option imo.
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No, I mean Quick Reboot. I'm still not convinced this battery drain is caused by certain processes, so Fast Reboot isn't an option imo.
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Fair enough. So you just mean reboot then. Ah well.
No, it's hot rebooting: basically only rebooting Android (it's a little more complex than that).
I used to do regular reboots but they take way longer.
im suffering from this in Desire HD build
wanna kill this permanently without quick reboot (since my ROM is not Deodex) completely.
disabling sync? its all "disabled"
You all might try a different SD card, had the 30ma bug, was 60. Changed micro SD card, re loaded android, now 3-7ma
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Just saying, I reboot using dev tools: bad behavior-> crash system server. Probably not the cleanest way to do it but it works.
fruchtfliege said:
as i mentioned in some other threads, the 60ma bug is caused by the process "CSPeopleSyncService". you can kill this process as you wrote, or just disable syncing facebook and google contacts in options. at least i sync them once a day automatically (don't want to loose the sync feature), and the 60ma bug never came back...
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Where did 'find' this information?
Without background sync enabled and facebook not even installed it can draw up to 60mA.
I'm not sure it's that single process causing the drain to be honest.
(Please don't take this the wrong way )
For me I think it is after I turn on WiFi and then back off again. It never goes back to 7ish mA. It stays at around 65mA as if WiFi was still on.
I'm using darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5.
strange?
I just found something interesting while using autokiller.
In the processes (i had the high drain again) there was twice the 'android system' mentioned.
I killed one of those entries, and the drain went back to 6mA.
Of course, can't be sure enough so i rebooted the phone, played with it a little and after 10 minutes of standby, i checked again. 54mA.
Again, Autokiller > processes and twice the android system. Killed 1 of them and back to 7mA.
I can't say why this happens, because in older builds (MDJ 2.4 Froyo clean w/ it's own kernel i don't have that issue).
I am no DEV or programmer, but maybe it's something others could test as well? I've been playing with this and trying to find out why this happens ever since the hastarin 8.6 kernel was released and I noticed it only happens with later kernels and mostly on RAM builds.
Just my 2 cents (or local currency my 2 bani )
I found this on other post
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Lets see how many people will ignore this...
To fix high power drain / usage in standby (60mA or 70mA) disable 'Use wireless networks' in Settings>Location menu. You will now get 7mA or less constantly. I discovered this as the main culprit last night. Also works in other builds.
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For whatever its worth: On MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 (and earlier builds) I can get 3-6mA in standby but anytime I change the Kernel or framework-res.apk and reboot, standby consumption goes up to around 55 mA all the time. Doesn't matter how many times I reboot.
I've been correcting this by rebooting to WM and recopying all the files in the android folder (CLRCAD.exe, Haret.exe, initrd.gz, rootfs.img, startup.txt, system.etx2, ts-calibration) except zImage (because I'm using a different Kernel than came with the build) and data.img. When I boot back to Android, back to 3-7 mA. I don't know why this works, but it consistantly does. At least for me.
another tip by darkstone:
turn off the "use Wireless" in the Locations Settings help to solve the problem if you are having high drain when you got data/wifi
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Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
Wiggz said:
Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
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Wiggz,
Try checking if you're in a dead-zone with no reception? (Your phone may be constantly trying to search for a signal). Do this for Wi-Fi too. Make sure it is not constantly scanning for a network.
Similarly, open up your task manager. How many programs do you see running in the background? Remember that pressing X in Windows Mobile does not mean it closes the application, it only means that the application is minimized.
Cheers.
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
Wiggz said:
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
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Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
PoisonWolf said:
Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
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When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
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When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
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Wiggz,
Unfortunately, that's all from me (I dont even have this phone yet, I'm saving up for it in the next couple of weeks). Try turning off your data and see how it goes. But damn, 50% loss just on idling, something in the background is definitely killing the battery.
Cheers!
Thanks for the help anyway - annoying the crap out of me. My Artemis used to go for days without needing a charge...I suppose my battery could be screwed but I want to troubleshoot first before I bite the bullet on that one - suppose I could hard reset and see what the drain is?
Things idling in RAM should not have any significant hit on the battery life. However, having the data connection on 24/7 will indeed kill your battery life, especially if you're using 3g or higher (Edge drains alot aswell, but not as much as 3g and higher). Since emails seem important to you, I'm guessing you have it set to dl every 5min (which is the most frequent setting). If applicable, change it to 10 or 15; granted it's possible you do need to get your emails ASAP and you need the 5min frequency. Now regardless whether you changed the frequency of the auto dl or not, set your data connection to terminate after a 1min of not being used. This should help you get a good bit more out of your battery.
(I have emails dl every 30min and RSS feeds and push pages once an hour. Data enables itself when needed and then terminates after a minute of not being used. This allows me to get much more than a days usage out of the phone. The only way I kill the phone is if on top of all that, I listen to music/radio for about 6 hours)
Hope it helps
oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
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oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
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Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
i had similar problem, battery got drained overnight or during the day with a speed of light... but in my case the bad boy was Palringo (IM) which was auto starting with every phone reset and did not show on taskbar...it is so bad that it drained fully charged battery in aprox. 6-7 hours. so now i hardly use it, and whenever i do i make sure its closed properly....
Wiggz said:
Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
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personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
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personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
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Well the reason I mentioned it was that I enabled that as one of a number of weaks and ended up having to hard reset as I wasn't getting Texts in a timely manner etc....it was probably another setting but I couldn't be sure.
Will try again. Only other thing is that data connection on 24/7 is great for a quick browse here and there and stock updates etc...
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do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
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why is that, by the way?
You haven't got Sprite Virtual Mobile installed have you? I tried it out on my HD and it sucked the life out of it for some strange reason. And it wasn't even showing up in task manager.
Is there a list of processes, services etc that we can safely remove/disable to work in the background? What say all?
glad this thread came up - my blackstone has been absolutely fine until I had the genius idea of "optimising" everything about 2 weeks ago with HD Tweak...
Now it's not HD Tweaks fault, but whatever I have changed means that it can drain a full charge overnight, and by morning its nigh on empty, i'm going to try and change it all back today, but for sure some setting I've changed is sucking juice like no-ones business.
FWIW - I havent installed anything during this time, the only thing i've changed is some of the settings - so it's not a "rogue" app draining the battery.
OT - sorry for the semi-hijack - I guess my point is that i'll have a play with the settings and see if I can determine what's eating the battery and then compare with other people.
that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
Wiggz said:
that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
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ta - me either - i've changed a few settings and made a note - will post if it doesnt eat the battery overnight over the next couple of days.
so ever snice i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(
I've been running DC off and on for almost a month now and have had excellent battery life. My awake times fluctuate (right now I'm at 13:30 Up time and 8:37 Awake time) but it hasn't been crazy.
Just curious, what is considered a "good" awake time/up time ratio? Are there better numbers on any of the other ROMs?
before if flashed it. lets say my uptime would be 50 minutes. my awake time would prob only be 2 minutes if i didnt use my phone at all. but now that i flashed it, my uptime would be 50 minutes and my awake time will prob like 40 minutes.
The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.
is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.
Warrior 3000 said:
is the freshrom 2.0 just like damagecontrol ? i mean i LOVE evertying about DC. i wouldnt want something so different.
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it shouldnt be totally different, but even if it isn't it works...or you could live with your battery life.
I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?
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I don't think it's the ROM. I am running DC 2.7.02 and right now my up time is 21:45 while my awake time is 2:48.
My battery life has been fantastic. Have you tried looking at various radios?
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yea after a search...weird i didnt think it worked...i found that this complaint is on almost every rom by at least one person. There are quite a few fixes. biggest one is disabling stock messaging app if used and using handcent or chomp.
Also you can go to settings, about phone, battery, and see what is using the battery.
This isnt for you dooj just quoted on your statement.
Warrior 3000 said:
so ever since i flashed my hero to damage 2.1 rom my awake time is always so high. its always only about 10 minutes BELOW he uptime. therefore, KILLING my battery life. =(
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I had that happen recently to a friend. Try just doing a factory reset.
Settings -> privacy -> factory reset.
Your phone will still remain rooted and the rom will still remain too.
This fixed it for him.
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
Warrior 3000 said:
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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go to messages, then press menu and go to setting. uncheck auto-retrieve, and uncheck received notifications.
edit* i did this to my wifes phone a few weeks ago as she was having a problem on another rom and her awake time still shows high but her battery is much better and she quit hitting me.
yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages
Warrior 3000 said:
yeah i have thoese unchecked. everytime i open up advacned task killer i always see these apps running tho...
voicemail
clock
handcent
messages
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whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.
Warrior 3000 said:
how do i disable the stock messanger fully ?
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If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app
rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.
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If you want to remove it, then at the windows command prompt assuming you have your SDK tools path set up correctly:
adb remount
adb shell
cd /system/app
rm [messaging app].apk
I dont know what the name of the messaging app is, but I think it might be Mms.apk You are at your own risk if that removes the wrong app.
You dont have to tecnically remove it. Just disable auto retrieve and notifications in that app.
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It is mms.apk.
I have been running the stock messaging with no problems.
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whats your time without signal? go to settings, about phone, battery, battery use and see whats using the battery and if click on the cell standby i think to see time without signal.
also go to menu, applications, running services, and see whats running and how long. stop the ones you dont use that have been running the entire time your phone was awake.
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My time without signal is 0% or non-existant.
mrinehart93 said:
The current Damage Control ROM is bugged and has an extremely strange wake lock issue. I'd suggest using Fresh ROM 2.0d until this is fixed.
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As for the current Damage Control ROM having a wake-lock issue, what IS the latest version? I am running v2.07.2 (the one before the TrevE mod) and I have no wake-lock, random reboots, or time without signal.
I have not found it to be the rom that is keeping things awake technically. I have tried to figure this one out, and all I can say it seems to be tied to some apps that I have downloaded that starts to throw the awake issue off.
This has happened to me on all 2.1 roms.......after a couple weeks of downloading some apps.
I only use root explorer and mixzing for now and have not had a problem with just those two.
I think I even confirmed that Pac-man was keeping the phone awake, although this is probably not the only one.
anyway, hope it helps.
So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?
ATOJAR said:
So as the thread name states does anybody have any tips for helping have the WildFire's batterey last longer?
So far ive turned the screen brigtness down by half of what it was & turned off touch vibration.
Any other tips?
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I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app ON rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
Have Fun
warriorvibhu said:
I have not tried many things but one thing i am pretty sure of is go to MARKET >>>> Download and use Advanced Task Killer .. kill the running apps.. i leave my installed keyboard..and mobile security app on rest most of them i kill... its a useful app.. i mean why to keep music app or weather app or news app or messaging app running when u are not using them..
Have Fun
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Yeah ive been using the Advanced Task Killer for a while now already.
I have read that usage of ATK is not required at all because of Androids near perfect RAM Management. And you also could come into trouble because android looses a small amount of ram capacity every time you use ATK untill the next reboot.
other than that you could try Juice Plotter and Juice Defender
find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.
rasenzhang said:
find a app can auto turn on/off fly mode.
I ve tried Juicy defender, it seems not fit wildfire very well, some function not working. like auto fly mode, and auto turn off wifi when over 50M.
(btw,it will change your apn setting,cause me can not connect after uninstall it.)
after 1 month, I found navigation app take me 80% of battery.like google map/navi.
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use the automatic brigtness option under the phone settings. much better batterty performance
Read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
Not sure if these steps actually improve the efficency of the battery OR wheter the S/W behind the battery guage becomes more accurate as it goes through a process that alows it to better estimate the SOC of the battery.
Andy
Yup, even I have read a lot that Android manages the apps in a beautiful way. When I first used Android, the first question that came to my mind was how to exit apps as none of the apps had an exit button. Coming from nokia, sony erricson etc this was an obvious question to ask. Then after some research I found that Android just freezes the apps when we go back. The app is not actually running in the back end.
But anyway, yesterday my battery again went to 8% and on checking the used status, it showed that the android system used 92% of the battery lol.
One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.
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One more thing I would like to suggest is that there is a Power control widget built in the wildfire. Its pretty useful to decrease the brightness, turn off gps, wifi etc from the home screen itself.
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Thanks for this!
I installed this widget and it said that GPS was on even though it wasn't appearing in the tool bar along the top. I had run several apps that use GPS, but had assumed if the GPS icon was gone, GPS was off.
Is that wrong?
(good news if it is, as I was struggling to keep enough power to in my phone to get through the day without charging)
joan
Avoid task killers like the plague. They cause more problems than they solve. Trust the android os to manage ram.
Just discovered the most powerful app I have ever seen called "Tasker". It its only £4, but will make your android so much more diverse. You can, for example, have it go into airplane mode between certain times (i have between midnight and 6am) but periodically check for sms or voice mail every hour. It saves stacks of battery.
I have it turning wifi on only when it knows I'm at home or at work.
I have it turning off wifi, dropping screen brightness down, and playing a louder notification when battery gets to 15%.
It silences my phone when I get within 100m of the two cinemas I use.
It is not the most easy app to use, be patient with it. Look up some of the "recipes" on the internet to get a good tutorial on how to work it. £4 is a steal for something so potentially vast. Its limited only by your imagination.
Oh and having run Tasker for 24 hours, (how long my battery normally lasts) only contributes to a 2% drain, and its adding roughly 6 to 8 hours extra! It would cost you ten times that for an extended battery!
I use an free app called timeriffic to auto disable WiFi
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Try program JuiceDefender....you can download free from Android market.
my battery life is really awful too,i noticed it a couple days ago,that it drains to fast,so i started looking into it,and i found out,that my device won't go too sleep. so in settings/about phone/battery the awake time and up time are the same. i had similar problems on my hero, but there it was the messaging apps fault.
here, i kill everything with advanced task killer,it still can't go too sleep,android battery use shows,that android system is using most of the battery.
anybody else with similar problem?solutions? i have stock 1.25 rom rooted with unrevoked.
What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
Ive head bad things about using task killers too, I dont use on anymore.
Some things i have done that have helped my battery like quit alot actually is turn off Wi-Fi, Turm off GPS, Turned off haptic feedback(vibration when pressing buttons), Screen brightness to automatic & screen timeout too 15 seconds.
I can now have a really good fiddle with the phone and it can last more than a day without needing a charge.
As I understand when screen goes auto shut off, all apps are idle, even WiFi or gps is on. I tried with music on continuously for 2 hrs in flight mode, I still have about 80% power. With gps on for 1 hr continuous, I still have about 80%. With normal use my power can last the whole day.
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What? You mean your screen is permanently on? .....
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no,the screen turns off,but something still runs in the background what eats the battery,and I can't find out what it is. I tried multiple task managers,and they show that everything is closed.i have it in flight mode,with everything turned off,still something runs,what shouldn't.
Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.
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Did you solve this? It's happening on my phone now, and it's very frustrating.
(just installed ATK - very scary the apps I never use are running) and killed everything except ATK. Touch the power switch to turn off the screen. 15 minutes later, up time and awake time are still the same.
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2 updates from me, to help anyone else with similar problems:
1) I uninstalled any recently installed or updated apps** and widgets now I have a 1:6 ratio of awake time. So, fixed?
2) In the meantime I logged a call to HTC via their website. Answer:
With regards to your problem, if the battery is going down significantly and you have turned of applications when your not using them and used task killer. It might be better to call us up so we cann look into it further and we might have to book the phone in for repair especially if you have noticed it not charging properly or overheating at any time.
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Yup, those problems started occurring at the same time as the other, so it looks like I have an underlying hardware fault. Dammit! I don't want to be without my phone for 2 weeks.
joan
**including CardioTrainer! When I reinstalled it I'd lost around 900km of workout history.
Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?
ebioman said:
Just out of curiosity
What gain of time are we actually talking about here ?
I tried lots of different things but never suceeded to receive more than two full days.
What is your max. with all the different programs and hints ?
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If you are asking me, the answer is "about 6 hours".
I've (partially) fixed my uptime = awaketime problem. But I obviously have some more serious battery issue.
Hopefully someone else can chime in with happy battery life.
joan
Hi friends.
I found the following coincedence.
When I install new build aparently CurrentWindget shows 60mA in stand by and no way to fix it to 5-7mA as it should be.
The solution which helps me to fix it is the following:
- enable GPS module in settings
- open Maps and wait for it to find where you are located
- go back to homescreen and put phone to stand by
It should be fixed now to 5-7mA current.
Hope it will help everyone.
I can even leave GPS module on all the time after that - standby current stays at 5-7mA level.
hlvl said:
I can even leave GPS module on all the time after that - standby current stays at 5-7mA level.
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Very strange, but very cool if it works for you! I will give it a shot next time I see high battery drain. Thanks for sharing, it will help at least one other person if it helps you.
I've also found that switching Bluetooth off, then back on again, fixes this 60mA drain !
Common misconception: leaving GPS enabled in settings doesn't leave the GPS chip on the whole time. It just means that an app can enable it when it needs to (e.g. when you open Maps). As long as there's no GPS icon in your status bar, it doesn't drain *any* battery.
OT: that trick would be way faster than rebooting! Gonna try if it works for me too.
Really strange solution for this issue. I have the same problem but for this moment have drain about 5mA after quick boot with dualbootloader (wait time 3sec for Android load). For this moment 5mA in standby mode - with any enabled comm modules (WiFi,Bluetooth,GPS).
My experince of fixing the problem(temporary) is not using taskkiller too often, but it not always works
Curarpikt said:
My experince of fixing the problem(temporary) is not using taskkiller too often, but it not always works
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Don't ever use your task killer again, it only causes problems.
Tried the above however no sucess..........please check out my post and tell me what you think
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857606&highlight=battery+wifi
I'm getting better battery life with wifi on
StephanV said:
Don't ever use your task killer again, it only causes problems.
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Why? I use it a lot...
To solve 60mA problem, each time you want to boot android:
1) when you are in windows mobile, lock the phone and turn the screen off by press end call button
2) wait few seconds and press it again to turn on screen
3) you see lock screen, unlock your phone
4) after that boot your android quickly within 10 seconds! (you can do it by creat shortcut of android on your home sceen)
I test it and solve problem for me on both mccm and mdeejay builds!
Phantoml337 said:
Why? I use it a lot...
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It was discussed hunderd of times. You dont need to free up mem in android 2.x
It has already a memory management built inside.
The only reason to use a task killer is to close an app that hangs or not properly close itself.
If you continue to kill your processes and backround apps just to free up ram, you will definitively drain more battery becaouse some of that apps will just load again automatically from SD or, when you open again one of them, it needs to load again from SD.
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It was discussed hunderd of times. You dont need to free up mem in android 2.x
It has already a memory management built inside.
The only reason to use a task killer is to close an app that hangs or not properly close itself.
If you continue to kill your processes and backround apps just to free up ram, you will definitively drain more battery becaouse some of that apps will just load again automatically from SD or, when you open again one of them, it needs to load again from SD.
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Exactly. And apps not closing properly is still not an excuse for using it. If the app is bad uninstall it or mail the dev to fixit, but don't go around screwing stuff up with a task killer.
Phantoml337 said:
Why? I use it a lot...
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Me to....i use 2!
Autokiller on agressive,and a taskkiller....never troubles with drain etc
Or everyone check my signiture for my thread on battery drain solution
I think the OP is really onto something here. I tried this trick & my drain has gone from a steady 55-65mA down to around 5. I'm impressed!
Just one question, those of you that having issues with battery drain what WM do u use? I've recently had a problem on my HD2 (no USB) and i installed a stock ROM. Before i had the VBN Droid Reloaded 2 and with Mdeejay kernel current widget never showed me values above 300mA (witch i believe i only saw that value 1 time). Usually i'd get from 1-2mA to 250mA tops. Now i'll never go below 60mA and i've seen the record of 600mA. Today it drain me from 95% to 35% in about 2 hours. A bit too much for my taste...
I always find if you boot Android with Win Mo fully booted, it's over 60mA, but if I use Exceller Dual Boot to boot Android before Win Mo has finished loading, then it's 5-6mA.
Yea man task_killer - problem
Everything is working for me fine, i am using futureShocks MIUI build, the only thing is when i switch on bluetooth, my battery drain is about 60-80 mAh without bluetooth i have 3-6 mAh... no task killer, no setcpu, with other builds like mdeejays sense roms this problem is not !?
Everyone an idea how to solve the problem ?
Hi Guys,
I have been using gingerbread build's for some time. I notice battery drain sometimes battery drain suddenly spikes to 58mAh for sometime (without Wifi or BT)..for around 10-15mins and then comes back to normal after 10-20mins(<10mAh). I experienced this issue first in MDJ Cm7 2.6 build..I thought that time must be build specific..so I switched to Desire HD build which was free of this issue...however I don't like sense anymore, so moved back to typhoon's CM7 build.But again I encountered the same issue. I changed the kernel to gauner's kernel, since the desire HD build I was using was using this kernel and free of the issue, but again it surfaced back.
Now I switched to pongster's hyperdroid build. This build has a very low power drain...most of the time its < 4mah on this build...Also I haven't installed any widgets (except for current widget) and have still the stock ADW launcher (to rule out the possibility of this bug caused by any s/w)...but again the drain jumped to 58mAh .Is it just me or other gingerbread users face this drain also randomly. could it be due to SD card, I am using ext4 data partition.
Mafioso said:
Hi Guys,
I have been using gingerbread build's for some time. I notice battery drain sometimes battery drain suddenly spikes to 58mAh for sometime (without Wifi or BT)..for around 10-15mins and then comes back to normal after 10-20mins(<10mAh). I experienced this issue first in MDJ Cm7 2.6 build..I thought that time must be build specific..so I switched to Desire HD build which was free of this issue...however I don't like sense anymore, so moved back to typhoon's CM7 build.But again I encountered the same issue. I changed the kernel to gauner's kernel, since the desire HD build I was using was using this kernel and free of the issue, but again it surfaced back.
Now I switched to pongster's hyperdroid build. This build has a very low power drain...most of the time its < 4mah on this build...Also I haven't installed any widgets (except for current widget) and have still the stock ADW launcher (to rule out the possibility of this bug caused by any s/w)...but again the drain jumped to 58mAh .Is it just me or other gingerbread users face this drain also randomly. could it be due to SD card, I am using ext4 data partition.
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Try turning sync off and seeing if that is what causes the spikes
XsceneXhippieX said:
Try turning sync off and seeing if that is what causes the spikes
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yes, I thought of that...and have removed facebook sync but I do need my gmail sync..I don't have any other sync's enabled except contacts and gmail...lol, is it too much to ask ? and i don't have any issues in sense builds where I have gmail, weather and facebook sync on
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yes, I thought of that...and have removed facebook sync but I do need my gmail sync..I don't have any other sync's enabled except contacts and gmail...lol, is it too much to ask ? and i don't have any issues in sense builds where I have gmail, weather and facebook sync on
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hmmm, I don't know, maybe its an install issue, I have everything always syncing, but I also have only 2g connection (at&t's terrible network) and I haven't had this issue using both pongsters and mdj's builds
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hmmm, I don't know, maybe its an install issue, I have everything always syncing, but I also have only 2g connection (at&t's terrible network) and I haven't had this issue using both pongsters and mdj's builds
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Hmmm ok...I don't think its an install issue..i always do a task 29 before switching builds from different devs..and follow the CWM settings as recommended by the dev....rest the builds are running so smoothly especially pongsters without any FC's or such...
BTW why are using AT&T...t-mob is cheaper and faster(3g)
It happens to me too sometimes. What I do is disable wifi and gps wait two minutes and battery drain on standby becames 5mA again. When I enable both again, it stays on 5mA. Don't know what's causing it, but I have it too.
I have this Problem if I use Livewallpapers.
Now i use normal Wallpapers and it is gone.
edit: 5-8 mA with normal Wallpaper
Well for me, it turned out to be the sync indeed as XsceneXhippieX mentioned.
I turned off all sync just for the heck of it and the problem hasn't come back for last 2 days...I enabled Background Sync (not auto sync) and problem resurfaced within few hours...so i'm pretty sure..Its the sync which is causing this Guess I need to go back to Sense ROM now...
And BTW i'm not using live wallpapers..
Also one more interesting fact...phone conusmes more battery on 2G networks than on 3G. I forced to phone to use 2G network and idle power drain was >5mAh all the time...while on 3g its 2-5mAh mostly...
58 mah on Ginger is usually the GPS. Turn it on then off again, somehow if you use it or any app use it, even if the app closes the GPS chip doesnt turn off.
Just turn it off using the widget or in settings.
If that doesnt fix it, make sure Bluetooth is off. it consumes 58-59 mah, even if it is not connected, its a known issue on Ginger. Bluetooth never goes to sleep, gotta turn it off manually.
Hope it helps!.
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58 mah on Ginger is usually the GPS. Turn it on then off again, somehow if you use it or any app use it, even if the app closes the GPS chip doesnt turn off.
Just turn it off using the widget or in settings.
If that doesnt fix it, make sure Bluetooth is off. it consumes 58-59 mah, even if it is not connected, its a known issue on Ginger. Bluetooth never goes to sleep, gotta turn it off manually.
Hope it helps!.
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Thanks for the help, but I'm sure its due to sync...I turned off the sync and for last 3 days there hasn't been a single occurrence of 60mAh drain.
gonna try turning off sync cause ive been having this issue.
just tried second gingerbread rom and it began immediately,
and this is with data, wifi, bt, gps all off.
hopefully sync does it
turning background data off didnt help.. still getting 70 to 80 drain.
and playing music in standby had me up to 110 which is higher than usual too
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turning background data off didnt help.. still getting 70 to 80 drain.
and playing music in standby had me up to 110 which is higher than usual too
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Is it a spike or continous drain? Also which ROM/kernel are you using?
its a spike, other weird thing is since i got on gingerbread, currentwidget has sucked at getting a continuous read. it has big gaps in the log.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
thats the one im on now and i was on clean gingerbread before that
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its a spike, other weird thing is since i got on gingerbread, currentwidget has sucked at getting a continuous read. it has big gaps in the log.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
thats the one im on now and i was on clean gingerbread before that
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Yes currentwidget don't give a continuous read for me too...but its the same behavior in froyo based sense build also...
Anyway, are you using any widgets installed which sync? Disable them and see, though i'll advice to disable all widgets (not only ones which sync) and see
score mobile and stock weather i have. but if i turned off background data and autosync they shouldnt be able to do anything i thought?
il give it a try
and currentwidget always did minute by minute for me in froyo. on sense at least i cant remember the last time i used a stock build
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score mobile and stock weather i have. but if i turned off background data and autosync they shouldnt be able to do anything i thought?
il give it a try
and currentwidget always did minute by minute for me in froyo. on sense at least i cant remember the last time i used a stock build
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Well I had fancy widget installed in which I had set weather to be updated always (irrespective of background data option) once a day and only on Wi-Fi..yet it still caused 58mAh drain....try disabling them for a while and see...
just deleted score mobile and deactivated weather.
after a few minutes turned it on. 85ma...
You can change the kernel to see if it helps...try Gauner's or RAFPIGNA
or better switch to froyo build...i'm switching myself..there's not much use to smartphone if you turn off syncs anyway
yeah i guess back to froyo. whats the best stock one? def dont want sense anymore.
and has anyone made an app or something to do the awesome shutoff animation from 2.3?