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It been reported thru several teardowns that the n1 has a fm transmiter/reciver inside. Is there anyway to to access this hardware (where would it be located /sys/device/ ect) would be nice to know if we can interface with this hardware.
nexusoneblog.com/blog/2010/1/6/nexus-one-dissected-reveals-80211n-wifi-and-fm-transmitter.htm
It would be awesome to actually have that funtionality. I've seen a few crappy flip phones with FM transmitters built in.
a google employee on this forum (swetland) said there is an fm transmitter/reciever, but google is not developing or working on an app for that yet, that's why they did not advertise it.
My nexus one is rooted and I have a console program just trying to figure out if this hardware would be listed in the /sys/devices/ area anywhere. Im new to android not sure of how the google api's work but would be intrested into trying to get a small app or script to run just to initalize the hardware and fool around with it. any ideas?
i know cliq users have a FM radio built in too, but they don't have an app to use it. see this here http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526775
transmitter / receiver
does that mean it can transmit fm signals to car radio so we can listen to music?!
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does that mean it can transmit fm signals to car radio so we can listen to music?!
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I think that means we can use N1 like a walkie talkie if the application is available.?
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My nexus one is rooted and I have a console program just trying to figure out if this hardware would be listed in the /sys/devices/ area anywhere. Im new to android not sure of how the google api's work but would be intrested into trying to get a small app or script to run just to initalize the hardware and fool around with it. any ideas?
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there should not be anything on the phone that you can find that mentions the existence of an fm reciever/transmitter... the phone has one but there is no functionality of it because there is no driver or app support for it... from what i have gathered getting the thing to work is going to be quit a project because the community would have to create a driver for the device as well as an application that calls on that driver as well as utilizes the capabilities of the chip itself... i dont know what experience you have with creating a driver to work for a complex piece of hardware that you have no idea how it works, its more/less going to be like blindly threading a needle unless google/htc would be so kind as to give one of our lovely coders some groundwork...
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does that mean it can transmit fm signals to car radio so we can listen to music?!
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potentially... if this thing gets coded to work, receiving signals will prolly be the easier thing to figure out first...
other HTC devices, such as the HTC Touch Pro2, have a built in FM receiver. HTC actually writes an app for this and I use it on my TP2, but I don't know if one exists for the N1. You can search xda-developers for the win-mo version for the TP2, but my point is, if they did it for winmo, they can do it for android!
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other HTC devices, such as the HTC Touch Pro2, have a built in FM receiver. HTC actually writes an app for this and I use it on my TP2, but I don't know if one exists for the N1. You can search xda-developers for the win-mo version for the TP2, but my point is, if they did it for winmo, they can do it for android!
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lol clearly you did not read get my point... "they" are not making anything, else they would have marketed it from the get go... it is up to the android community more specifically the nexus one community to come up with a driver that makes the chip functional... the chip in the other devices may be different as well, aka different driver needed...
What about htc tattoo? It has a fm receiver and an app...
The nexus one uses the broadcom BCM4329 Chipset. I need to find something to work with for this chip to even understand the funconatly of the chip itself I will look thru broadcoms site later see if they have any kind of driver or any information at all on this chipset. Reading other posts on other phones that had a similar chipset people were able to get the reciver on the chip activated but were unable to get the sound routed to the phone. They were able to however to get the the radio to tune to certain frequanceys and I think get the RDS information from the chipset. If anyone finds any relevant information post it here
Nycro
This tree was just added to the android source on the 12th of Jan looks to be mostley for the WLAN/Bluetooth features of the chipset
ttp://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/wlan/broadcom.git;a=summary
Have a look at.
codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=platform/packages/apps/FM.git;a=summary
Looks like an fm radio app for android using a qualcomm chip.
Im talking with the devolper of the driver for the wifi portion of the chip. At this time he is as well intrested in getting the Radio part of the chipset working but does not know much about it himself. Hopefully something will arise out of this conversation with him and maybe we will get a nice start to getting this portion of the chip working!
Im new with programing for android so I probley will need some help in the end lol.. allthough im pretty adaptive with c++ and some java im not no expert (Bacholers in network secuirty)
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lol clearly you did not read get my point... "they" are not making anything, else they would have marketed it from the get go... it is up to the android community more specifically the nexus one community to come up with a driver that makes the chip functional... the chip in the other devices may be different as well, aka different driver needed...
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Clearly, you didn't get my point. For the TP2, not only was the Radio app not marketed, it was also not made available by HTC, but is now available on this forum. Secondly, I didn't contest that Google is not going to develop a Radio app - I simply said that HTC HAS made one. Hopefully, that clears things up
I have been talking with the guy from broadcom tongiht i will quote some of what was said here. Im not sure if he wants to be know to the comunity or not.
He had included the link to a video I have seen on this fourm will link below.
"I'll let you know when I figure something out. What other HTC phone uses the 4329 chip with Android? I wasn't aware of one. The HTC HD2 WM6.5 phone uses 4329, but I don't know if FM is enabled on that either.
There is an Android FM radio app for the BCM4325 chip, I saw a YouTube video of it running on a BeagleBoard: ww.youtube.com/watch?v=v6wdTOHrwQw This is using an AzureWave module, which has the 4325 in it.
The FM RX portion on the 4329 should be the same or nearly the same. I believe the FM is conrolled by special commands in the BT HCI interface, so some Android framework/JNI work might have to be done to the BT stack."
Thanks to Mr H ^^
I will do more work on this tommorow and see how far I can get
Thanks for everyones intrest and help!
An FM APP to unlock the FM Radio functions of my Nexus is something that I am willing to pay for!!!!
Some of the senior developers here are aces so I will keep my fingers crossed.
I just want to express my interest in a FM radio for Nexus One.
I think people (including me) will be happy to pay for an app that enables the FM reciever on the phone.
Good luck to whoever is trying to get this to work!
As I am not a developer all I can do to help is surf the web to see what I can find.
I found this link tp://www.9to5mac.com/broadcom-BCM4329-iphone-802.11n-FM
That states the iPhone has the BCM4329 chip in it. Now I have not found an apple app nor do I know if this helps any of the aces out there.
So just take a look.
I thought that was appart of the update? I don't seem to have that? Is it like the trackball that they released the driver/api and some dev has to make a app to use it now? I was hopeful for the transmitter more than a reciver but I guess I am a big dreamer ;-)
That was never confirmed to be apart of the update - it was simply speculation that evolved into false hope.
Do we know for sure that the FM hardware exists?
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Can you provide a link to where/when Google stated that it would be part of 2.2?
Bet you can't
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Do we know for sure that the FM hardware exists?
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Yes we do...
Oddly, an app called "HTC Radio Info" is in the manage applications, all tab. Not sure if this has already been discussed?
Anyways, it was never confirmed, just speculated upon. And if it is an API, then I am sure we will see something come of it in due time.
Well, I have been skeptical about the FM radio because of the chip name.
"Of interest is a Broadcom chip labeled Broadcom BCM4329EKUBG. Why? Well, the BCM4329 (albeit, without the "EKUBG" qualifier) is capable of 802.11n (HTC only lists 802.11b/g) WiFi in addition to FM transmitter and receiver."
The chip name is not the same as the one with FM t/r but has been said to have it, which is pure speculation.
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
But the Nexus One DOES have a wireless N radio and you can connect to N only networks.
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Well, I have been skeptical about the FM radio because of the chip name.
"Of interest is a Broadcom chip labeled Broadcom BCM4329EKUBG. Why? Well, the BCM4329 (albeit, without the "EKUBG" qualifier) is capable of 802.11n (HTC only lists 802.11b/g) WiFi in addition to FM transmitter and receiver."
The chip name is not the same as the one with FM t/r but has been said to have it, which is pure speculation.
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
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Yes, and in addition even if the chip supports it the fm radio section might not be connected. On these types of devices that have fm receivers they are usually wired to use the headphones as an antenna since an fm antenna is far too large to fit in the device. Ours might not have that much needed connection.
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IF we got it this would not be the first device I have owned that a supposedly not working/not connected fm radio module suddenly became a working/connected fm module. Not saying one way or the other but its absence is not absolute proof.
Paul from modaco has managed to get it to tune into stations, but just not get any audio out.
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IF we got it this would not be the first device I have owned that a supposedly not working/not connected fm radio module suddenly became a working/connected fm module. Not saying one way or the other but its absence is not absolute proof.
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It has a precedent, though - update for HTC Touch CDMA (HTC Vogue) enabling GPS receiver that was unused until then, existing in Qualcomm MSM7500 CPU of the Vogue.
So it was done before. The question is - would Google bother or would they just skip it and leave it to the community (if it's feasible at all, given that Desire has the same chip and connections - which isn't confirmed).
Thats what I mean I had a touch diamond NAM version with supposedly no fm because of some hardware deal and sure enough despite HTCs assurances that it could not be done the community got fm going after a time. I would bet there are other examples besides these.
The galaxy s2 uses the broadcom BCM4330 chip which has an fm transmitter built into the chip. Does this mean it has an fm transmitter?
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4330
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I bloody hope so! I think this was similar with the Nexus One or the Desire but it was never used.
Perhaps one of the XDA devs will harbour something up when the source is released by Samsung.
Built in FM transmitter would be awesome, hope this is true.
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i was excited abut milestone having a chip that had fm transmitter. forget about transmitting it never even received an fm signal. form previous experience i am not very optimistic.
would be amazing if this was true
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It would, but I imagine they'd have communicated it if it was present. That's a pretty cool selling point.
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i was excited abut milestone having a chip that had fm transmitter. forget about transmitting it never even received an fm signal. form previous experience i am not very optimistic.
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These chips have support for alot of features that the manufacturers dont utilise, unfortunately. since the S2 does have an fm reciever, hopefully it should just be a matter of tweaking it to transmit a signal? funny thing is the chip also supports Bluetooth 4.0, wonder if that means we'll be able to update to 4.0 once its officially released.
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It would, but I imagine they'd have communicated it if it was present. That's a pretty cool selling point.
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Then again they don't even advertise the fact it supports hdmi out which is a bigger selling point, for me anyway. Even the phone shop assistant who sold me the phone said it doesn't have hdmi out.
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no it will never get activated just like the previous versions of samsung omnia hd
It will maybe never get activated by samsung, but what can we do about this?
Is there an possibility to activate the transmitter and what do we need for doing that?
Maybe if we find a phone with activated transmitter (same chip) and software it would be possible (but i dont know an android phone whit this speccs).
This feature would be making this phone perfect for me (because i use it a lot on my old nokia n85) and i am not the only one who would like this.
yeah would be pritty good but dont think its gana happen ... :/
It depends on wiring of the hardware! If you have a chip which includes a transmitter than you have only one part of an working transmitter. The other part is a antenna connected to the chip and maybe an amplifier between them. If the "transmiter output" ins't connected to anything then there is no chance to use it...
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It depends on wiring of the hardware! If you have a chip which includes a transmitter than you have only one part of an working transmitter. The other part is a antenna connected to the chip and maybe an amplifier between them. If the "transmiter output" ins't connected to anything then there is no chance to use it...
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I just have to ask... Can anyone confirm this? Or is there any news on this topic? It is very interesting for me!
Probably not connected by samsung. I recall the hardware is also capable of more than the supported signal bands, but samsung chose to not use that feature.
Ok guys, what's new about FM transmitter on our sgs2?
Please, can someone try to start developing something?
Our s2 is getting smarter and better day by day
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a chip being capable of and the whole parts doing the stuff are 2 different things.
In the broadcomm's datasheet there are all the things that the chip is capable of doing it.
But, let put it this way: The chip is capable to use 3g network but in order to do it you need a 3g radio part in it.
The same with the fm transmitter. In order to use that feature you need a real fm transmitter in the phone, a radio transmitter, a piece, a device, a part, you get the point.
And i am afraid that our good old SGSII does not have a fm transmitter in it.
Wow nice to hear that chip has integrated built in fm transmitter.. Would love if anyone develops something to utilise that..
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Wow nice to hear that chip has integrated built in fm transmitter.. Would love if anyone develops something to utilise that..
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Would love if anyone would read the post above it.
I use the FM radio on my SII. I am aware of various streaming radio apps, but a proper FM radio is a must-have for me.
The S4 doesn't have one and this is the only reason I still have my SII now.
The Note 3 looks great and - despite much searching and a post which got lost in general queries - I have no idea if it has an FM radio or not. If I buy, I'll probably get it from Expansys - link.
So, does anybody know? Does the Snapdragon-flavour Note 3 have an FM radio?
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I use the FM radio on my SII. I am aware of various streaming radio apps, but a proper FM radio is a must-have for me.
The S4 doesn't have one and this is the only reason I still have my SII now.
The Note 3 looks great and - despite much searching and a post which got lost in general queries - I have no idea if it has an FM radio or not. If I buy, I'll probably get it from Expansys - link.
So, does anybody know? Does the Snapdragon-flavour Note 3 have an FM radio?
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Historically the Qualcomm Snapdragon series has included an FM radio so here's to hoping at least the LTE variant has the FM radio.
From comments I have read it seems it's not included this time. But perhaps someone who was at IFA could actually comment if they got hands on time with it.
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Historically the Qualcomm Snapdragon series has included an FM radio so here's to hoping at least the LTE variant has the FM radio.
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The Qualcomm S4 doesn't have one, either.
Thanks for all the replies - appreciated!
I know this isn't a big deal for many, but FM radio is for me. I'm confused why - certainly in the case of the S4 - Samsung appear to have just not bothered; the chipsets used in these devices have FM available. I know why Apple phones don't have FM - potential threat to itunes - but why would Samsung do the same? I don't accept their previous argument "The flagship model of our products are focused on customers who use digital content" as it sounds weak and like something that was just made up.
Anyway.
It looks like I will have to wait a little longer so ...
I don't know about all details of the GNote3 and how easy or how soon its users will be able to root it.
But if it doesn't come with stock FM Radio , once you get root, you can get a FM radio app (no streaming) called Spirit FM, which works like a charm:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mikersmicros.fm_unlock&hl=eng
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I don't know about all details of the GNote3 and how easy or how soon its users will be able to root it.
But if it doesn't come with stock FM Radio , once you get root, you can get a FM radio app (no streaming) called Spirit FM, which works like a charm:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mikersmicros.fm_unlock&hl=eng
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I heard of that, but even Spirit FM needs some hardware to be there and it's not on the S4
On the mega all lte variants do not have fm but non lte do.
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On the mega all lte variants do not have fm but non lte do.
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The version I'd get would be the one like Expansys in the UK have on pre-order: link. And it's the LTE version
If what you say above applies to the Note 3 as well, then that's another sale lost :crying:
same here
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I use the FM radio on my SII. I am aware of various streaming radio apps, but a proper FM radio is a must-have for me.
The S4 doesn't have one and this is the only reason I still have my SII now.
The Note 3 looks great and - despite much searching and a post which got lost in general queries - I have no idea if it has an FM radio or not. If I buy, I'll probably get it from Expansys - link.
So, does anybody know? Does the Snapdragon-flavour Note 3 have an FM radio?
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Its like I wrote your post, I even have my S2, you are 100% right about FM, there are places like the subway, you cant have 3g reception for streaming, and also on roaming its not free!
Nonetheless I will dissapoint you, on IFA hands on reviews I noticed that there wasnt an fm radio app in the app drawer, or in any folder. Also on gsmarena.com in the specs they had added the stereo fm radio, but today I checked and instead they put TBC (to be configured)
Finaly as a solution you could get the note 2 (which has fm radio) much cheaper and miss out on the 3's new features.
Despite the lack of fm, I am thinking of getting the note 3 maybe in the 2014 (it will be about 250 € cheaper)
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Its like I wrote your post, I even have my S2, you are 100% right about FM, there are places like the subway, you cant have 3g reception for streaming, and also on roaming its not free!
Nonetheless I will dissapoint you, on IFA hands on reviews I noticed that there wasnt an fm radio app in the app drawer, or in any folder. Also on gsmarena.com in the specs they had added the stereo fm radio, but today I checked and instead they put TBC (to be configured)
Finaly as a solution you could get the note 2 (which has fm radio) much cheaper and miss out on the 3's new features.
Despite the lack of fm, I am thinking of getting the note 3 maybe in the 2014 (it will be about 250 € cheaper)
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I've also seen different answers on spec sheets for the Note 3 regarding FM radio. The Samsung micro site (link) simply doesn't mention it at all.
On the basis the the Note 3 could have FM radio, I think I'll still hold out some hope that it does.
In the meantime, my 2.5 years old S2 continues to work flawlessly. The thing is, I don't need a Note 3, but I do want one
Frankly I've just bought a 5 euro mini MP3 player. Added bonus: 5 hours more battery life on my phone.
That said my iPod (it was a gift! There are no Android mp3 players ) has an FM radio so I don't really need the mp3 player, but it makes a useful backup.
Easier solution than skipping every phone you really want because it doesn't have an FM radio.
Principle is fine and all, but the companies don't notice nor care if one person refuses to buy it over a missing FM radio (They're expecting to sell 5 million Note 3's. What's one person?), and the only person negatively affected by you refusing to buy it is you.
Att Note 2 didn't have an fm radio either. As thering1975 said with the Mega, only non LTE phones have it, and Att Note 2 was with LTE. With the international Note 2 it was the same, LTE version didn't have it while the 3G version did. I suppose the LTE radio takes up the space occupied by the fm radio. Sorry I would use it a lot too if it had it.
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According to this Dutch site (roughly translated) the Note 3 does have fm radio:
http://translate.googleusercontent....radio/&usg=ALkJrhjCQFUjbn-D-8qHmQ9xDQDtyCflbQ
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I changed my mobile 2 months ago. didn't buy s4 or note 2 LTE, purely because they don't have FM radio.
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According to this Dutch site (roughly translated) the Note 3 does have fm radio:
http://translate.googleusercontent....radio/&usg=ALkJrhjCQFUjbn-D-8qHmQ9xDQDtyCflbQ
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Looks like they were getting their information from GSMarena according to the update on the top of page. Does it have FM still remains to be seen I guess
I want to switch from SII.
but the "fm radio" does not exist, will not buy.
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Frankly I've just bought a 5 euro mini MP3 player. Added bonus: 5 hours more battery life on my phone.
That said my iPod (it was a gift! There are no Android mp3 players ) has an FM radio so I don't really need the mp3 player, but it makes a useful backup.
Easier solution than skipping every phone you really want because it doesn't have an FM radio.
Principle is fine and all, but the companies don't notice nor care if one person refuses to buy it over a missing FM radio (They're expecting to sell 5 million Note 3's. What's one person?), and the only person negatively affected by you refusing to buy it is you.
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My S2 works fine - and has FM, so I'm not really loosing out if I don't buy. I also have one of those tiny FM bluetooth headsets - Sony MW600 - which I could use. I just don't want to.
But you're right - I don't think Samsung will worry too much over it
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Looks like they were getting their information from GSMarena according to the update on the top of page. Does it have FM still remains to be seen I guess
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Yes I saw it..
And that pic is also of a GNote 2
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My S2 works fine - and has FM, so I'm not really loosing out if I don't buy. I also have one of those tiny FM bluetooth headsets - Sony MW600 - which I could use. I just don't want to.
But you're right - I don't think Samsung will worry too much over it
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I want to switch from SII.
but the "fm radio" does not exist, will not buy.
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Allow me to make a suggestion:
Galaxy Note2 (N7100) is a kickass phone and got FM radio.
Its price is going down (due launch of the newer S4 and Note3) meaning you will get a lot of phone for a much smaller price tag.
An excellent upgrade if you are coming from the S2.
You will be mesmerized with its sound quality (wolfson DAC), gorgeous screen , amazing GPS/GLONASS performance, and the best battery performance of them all
Did I mention the much lower price?
Definitely the best buy if you are new to the N series....
I am keeping mine for a while longer, not in a hurry at all to move on to the Note3
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After seeing a lots of hands on videos , the app drawer doesnt have FM radio app in snapdragon variant but I'm not sure of the Exynos variant. So its almost confirmed no FM radio on S800 version
No matter nowadays internet radio is being popular....no matter some people dont like built in (analogue) fm radio...
But many people STILL love their beloved in-built FM Radio very much...But????
Can anyone confirm that either of Note 3 varriant has Fm radio or not???
We all know nowadays samsung has started to drop built in FM radio like Galaxy S4 ...but after many people showed dissapointment ..samsung had to give clarification on it...but as far as Note 3 concerned some sites say there is fm radio while some say no
Even some sites say however both chip support fm radio, that Exynos varriant has FM Radio and SD varriant has no fm radio or vice versa
I am confused on this feature....weather it is present in note 3 or not
The question is not about usability or likeness of FM radio.....cuz many people Still missing FM radio in s4...everybody like/want more & more essential features in their devices
Also would like to know this (some sites have changed the FM radio status to TBC - to be confirmed).
Yes, this should NOT turn into yet another discussion on FM radio vs Internet radio please. Every other premium (Android and Lumia) phones has an FM Radio, so Samsung should just add / enable it...
The official press release doesn't list it, so I'd say that's a solid no:
http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2...ory-of-your-Life-with-Samsung-GALAXY-Note-3-1
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The official press release doesn't list it, so I'd say that's a solid no:
http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2...ory-of-your-Life-with-Samsung-GALAXY-Note-3-1
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Thanx for the link, but the S3 has an FM radio, but they also did not mention it in the official announcement. Press statements don't contain all the features:
http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2...e--Designed-for-Humans-and-Inspired-by-Nature
Thread on same subject opened 2 days ago in "Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" section: link
- The answer looks to be a no over there too :crying:
Why have Samsung turned against the FM radio on their flagship devices?
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Why have Samsung turned against the FM radio on their flagship devices?
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Apparently Samsung in Russia said this about the lack of an FM radio in the S4: "The flagship model of our products are focused on customers who use digital content"
Although I understand the difference between digital and analogue sound, I don't really care; I just sometimes want to listen to the radio without the cost/occasional unreliability/battery hogging of listening to a streamed data signal. I doubt I'm alone in this.
It looks like the multipurpose chipsets used today have FM capability, but are just not "wired up" for some reason. I doubt if money is an issue - most especially with a phone as expensive as a Note 3.
The S4 doesn't have an FM radio and Samsung have sold 10s of millions of them so this is hardly going to kill the company.
Sorry - I've just realised I haven't answered your question; I've no idea !
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Apparently Samsung in Russia said this about the lack of an FM radio in the S4: "The flagship model of our products are focused on customers who use digital content"
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There is such thing as HD Radio that totally invalidates that "reason".
I can confirm (according to a Dutch website) that the FM radio IS indeed implemented in the Note 3!!
See website: http://www.galaxyclub.nl/2013/09/samsung-galaxy-note-3-heeft-fm-radio/
It's in Dutch, sorry...
Mine will be delivered at 27 september!! Can't wait!!
I wish if there is no fm radio in note 3 then at least it should be supported by Spirit Fm after rooting (s4 doesnt support it )
Come on samsung !!!!
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I can confirm (according to a Dutch website) that the FM radio IS indeed implemented in the Note 3!!
See website: http://www.galaxyclub.nl/2013/09/samsung-galaxy-note-3-heeft-fm-radio/
It's in Dutch, sorry...
Mine will be delivered at 27 september!! Can't wait!!
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Previously GSMArena has confirmed the FM Radio on the Note 3 specification page, but just recently they changed the FM radio status to "TBC".
If Note3 still has no FM radio then I'll definitely be ditching Samsung for good (I supported them since Galaxy S1/S2/Note2) and go for LG G2 Korean version (no FM either for Korean version but I needed to pull away from Samsung).
I think Samsung is feeling cocky now and starting to pull away from their supporters. Eg1, ditching FM radio telling customers you don't need it, Eg2. Pulling a fiasco with this Exynos 3G/Qualcomm 4G configuration. They are just like Apple telling you what you want to buy.
I doubt very much they will have FM radio. I remember when 4g s3 came out many sites stated fm radio even the carriers also stated this.. but when i bought it there was no fm radio in 4g note 2 and s3.. also no FM radio IN s4 4g
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Unfortunately, Now GSMArena 'almost' says there is no FM radio in their Preview ....very sad
Now only solution is...buy Sony MW BT headfone which has very good audio and Fm, plus price also cheaper !!!!
ipsuvedi said:
Unfortunately, Now GSMArena 'almost' says there is no FM radio in their Preview ....very sad
Now only solution is...buy Sony MW BT headfone which has very good audio and Fm, plus price also cheaper !!!!
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I also noticed that now GSMArena state a definitive "No" in the FM Radio section for Note3. My solution is simple, change to other brands
Reason why Samsung totally killed my heart:
1. Ditching 4G LTE support on their Exynos chip
2. Stopped improving the AMOLED with RGB like they did with Note1 and Note2.
3. Ditching FM radio completely on their flagship line up.
RA017 said:
Previously GSMArena has confirmed the FM Radio on the Note 3 specification page, but just recently they changed the FM radio status to "TBC".
If Note3 still has no FM radio then I'll definitely be ditching Samsung for good (I supported them since Galaxy S1/S2/Note2) and go for LG G2 Korean version (no FM either for Korean version but I needed to pull away from Samsung).
I think Samsung is feeling cocky now and starting to pull away from their supporters. Eg1, ditching FM radio telling customers you don't need it, Eg2. Pulling a fiasco with this Exynos 3G/Qualcomm 4G configuration. They are just like Apple telling you what you want to buy.
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You need to look up soc processors. ..... system on chip .... the reason the lte versions won't have fm radio is there is not enough room on the die to put lte radio and fm radio. ... that is the reason the exynos version has a fm radio because of lack of lte radio in chip .... you can't have everything. ... they took out what will be used the least ... and left wifi bluetooth etc things truly useful. ..
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You need to look up soc processors. ..... system on chip .... the reason the lte versions won't have fm radio is there is not enough room on the die to put lte radio and fm radio. ... that is the reason the exynos version has a fm radio because of lack of lte radio in chip .... you can't have everything. ... they took out what will be used the least ... and left wifi bluetooth etc things truly useful. ..
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I don't think die size is the limitation because :
a) Korean version of S4 (SHV-E300) has 1.) Exynos Octa chipset, 2) Korean LTE support, 3) Korean TV Tuner
If die size is a concern then I'd imagine Samsung would have ditched the hardware Korean TV Tuner chipset as well and tell every Samsheep fans that they don't really need a hardware TV tuner because nobody would watch old fashion over-the-air TV broadcast anymore
If Samsung could have stuffed TV tuner in a Exynos Octa LTE phone, is it too hard for them to stuff it with a FM Tuner instead?
b) International version (Qualcomm Snapdragon 800) of LG G2 has both LTE support AND FM radio.
Rather than pushing the envelope and continue to innovate, Samsung is sitting back and relax and tell people that their current offerings is all you'll ever need. Being a hardcore Samsung Galaxy S series follower, I'm seriously sensing they are slipping away from their followers and becoming the next Apple. Good Luck Samsung, I'll be glad if I turned out to be wrong.
Epix4G said:
You need to look up soc processors. ..... system on chip .... the reason the lte versions won't have fm radio is there is not enough room on the die to put lte radio and fm radio. ... that is the reason the exynos version has a fm radio because of lack of lte radio in chip .... you can't have everything. ... they took out what will be used the least ... and left wifi bluetooth etc things truly useful. ..
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Both the international exynos variant and international slapdragon variant of note 3 afaik wont have FM radio.
@RA017 made a very good point.
Previously GSMArena has confirmed the FM Radio on the Note 3 specification page, but just recently they changed the FM radio status to "TBC".
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It is now a plain No.
nl1010 said:
I can confirm (according to a Dutch website) that the FM radio IS indeed implemented in the Note 3!!
See website: http://www.galaxyclub.nl/2013/09/samsung-galaxy-note-3-heeft-fm-radio/
It's in Dutch, sorry...
Mine will be delivered at 27 september!! Can't wait!!
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Actually the article you provided confirms that there is NOT an FM radio on the note 3
Then the update states that it is to be confirmed, they never did say that there was one!
This is very sad. Not only because i would enjoy the FM. But also because most of the FM chips (most of the time, with some software hacking) can be utilized as an FM transmitter for your car.....