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Root now or wait for froyo?

Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Rooting isn't hard at all. You should go ahead & root now

+1 on the root now. While your at it install a custom rom and you will love your phone. Odds are you can get the Froyo update right here before it hits OTA anyways.

Yeah I've rooted my vibrant before I had to get a new one. It is easy but I would probably have to un root it to update right?
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I don't understand what waiting would do. What you should NOT do is get the Froyo update from T-Mobile, as there is a chance that they will push an update that breaks your ability to root with 2.2 and you will have to wait even longer.
I recommended you root now, install Rom Manager, go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813001
Download Fusion 1.1 to your SDCARD (I have a folder called ROMS) and go to Clockwork, reboot into Recovery, Reinstall Packages, Install ZIP from SDCARD, choose Bionix 1.1, wait, and then see what that phone is really capable of.
Using Fusion 1.1 makes me not mind waiting for Froyo.

Yeah you are right it's just I haven't got to comfortable w/ flashing roms just yet. Looks a bit hard I guess I will just keep watching the videos on it till I feel like I can do it
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Flashing roms is super easy as long as you're using ones flashable through rom manager. I must warn you it's very addictive. The only thing I would say is make your you backup in case something goes wrong and avoid Voodoo until you've flashed a few times and feel more comfortable. Great thing is there is tons of support here. I suggest you try Bionix Final.

Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Joshochoa187 said:
I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Yes you can.

Joshochoa187 said:
Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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Dooo eeet!
Yes, it's daunting at first to flash a new ROM, but I just did it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was simple and easy. Just read up as much as you can and then write up a "roadmap" on all the steps you need to take, before, during, and after. It removed a lot of headaches for me because I planned it all out and had all the software ready in case anything went wrong (Odin, stock ROM, etc.). If there are any gaps in your understanding or questions about a process, ask them here before you flash!

I would root it and load a custom ROM, waiting for official OTA update to Froyo is like playing a Russian roulette now. Look what a simple update that was suppsoed to address GPS and other issues did to your fellow TMO users.
As always, there will be people who wouldn't even know that you can root the device to make it your own, so they will always run stock, and complain to TMO when they click MobiTV app and never use it, but have to cough up 10 bucks a month for it (it is just an example).
If you came here you know that you can do something to your phone besides waiting for Froyo, take a full advantage of what is offered in the dev section, and don't forget to support the developers if you like the work they do

Ok I'm reading the thread you posted how do I preform nandroid back up?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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If you are going to root, you might as well just do it.
Froyo could easily be 2-3 months down the road yet.

you need ROM manager...
it took me forever to find a how-to on this exact thing.
You have to be rooted in order to accomplish this:
1. root (obviously)
2. download ROM manager
3. open ROM manager and click on 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' and pick your phone.
4. click 'Backup Current ROM'
5. Let it do it's thing... it's going to reboot and run in recovery then reboot again.
6. You are done!!
To recover, you have to boot into clockwork recovery and click restore then pick the date file you made to recover to that date!
** If any of this is wrong, please call me out!!

Yeah, I started doing all this before I even discovered ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery. Those tools definitely make everything so much easier.
Make sure you have the following software tools:
ADB
Odin
Rom Manager (w/ ClockworkMod Recovery installed)
Titanium Backup
Also, make sure your phone is not hardware locked before you begin. Try the standard procedure to enter Recovery Mode; if your phone is hardware locked, run the flashable fix (found in the dev forum) so that you have some way of recovering from a soft brick.

From my experiences, rooting has always been the fastest way to get updates. Those rollouts take forever.

Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Joshochoa187 said:
Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Way to go!
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lol. i was waiting for a froyo release, i flashed my g1 a bunch so flashing wasn't a big deal, but i was happy with the phone stock for a bit and didn't mind waiting. but i rooted after a week. was flashing smaller things like ji2 gps, getting rid of bloatware, changing bootup/shutdown, etc. a couple weeks later. and a couple weeks after that i started flashing roms.
moral of the story? just root and start flashing now, it's a long wait.

[Q] Froyo DK28 is a fake?! >=(

blogs.computerworld.com/17481/sprint_epic_4g_froyo
sorry i cant post it as a link correctly...im a newb
its not really a fake but it's not the finished version....i cant even get it to update...i get an error 7

Wow! Do some research and read.
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Boy... you weren't kidding about being a noob...
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063_XOBX said:
Boy... you weren't kidding about being a noob...
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LOL.........

okay...we already knew this was true, but i have a question.
When the real froyo comes out, will we have to flash back to the DI18 stock w/ Odin or will we be able to update the manual way like we did for this "test"? (I know it wouldn't show up in the system updates notification)

Since ur probably gonna root and load a custom rom anyway, pretty sure u can just wait for the rom packages to be updated and go straight from dk28
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Zeinzu said:
Since ur probably gonna root and load a custom rom anyway, pretty sure u can just wait for the rom packages to be updated and go straight from dk28
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Yea, but doing that will inevitably lead to problems. The best way to do it is to return to DI18 and let Android update you the normal way, then root, then install whatever rom you want. If DK28 has taught us anything, its that trying to take the shortcut leads to non functional GPS and other problems.

Which means we'll probably be getting the final build of froyo in a few months judging by the current rate of progress. SOOOOOOO tired of waiting.

I checked the Sprint forums.
One of the admin suggests that the official update will be released within 3 weeks at the least, unless there's problems. Which...there will be -_-

Best ROM for fascinate D101?

Whats the best rom for the fascinate?
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I won't say anything even though you posted in the wrong forum. Just telling you so you don't do it again.
I do recommend switching to dj05, then using either super clean by jt or black hole by sonofskywalker.

I agree, if you haven't done any roms yet, you might as well go to DJ05. It is pretty painless. I'm running the DJ05 Super Clean by JT currently.

Arixsin said:
I agree, if you haven't done any roms yet, you might as well go to DJ05. It is pretty painless. I'm running the DJ05 Super Clean by JT currently.
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So far I rooted by installing drivers and 1 click now how do i get dj05?

interpol909 said:
So far I rooted by installing drivers and 1 click now how do i get dj05?
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The first step is reading.

Well I've installed dj05 but I can't seem to text people when I do so. So I'm stuck with d101

Did you install a DJ05 ROM or did you install the DJ05 update on your phone?

megalonebula said:
Well I've installed dj05 but I can't seem to text people when I do so. So I'm stuck with d101
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I'm really curious about this as well. I have been having the same problem. My texts go out as blank "pages" and I cannot receive any. It only happens with the dj05 roms and not the di01. Also, so where would the dj05 update rather than the rom be found? Thanks.

Did you flash the modem.bin for DJ05?
It sounds like you flashed the ROM without the modem.bin.

I'm a total noob and need some help!!

I completely new to the whole flashing and custom rom thing. I've never tried anything like it and don't know much about it. The closest I've come to hacking or rooting my Vibrant phone is with the OCLF app. Now, I too have been patiently waiting for Froyo to come out and for some reason when it did come out I was hesitant to get it. I wanted to see what people were saying about it before I downloaded and installed it. So far from what I'm seeing, its not all its cracked up to be and it seems like Froyo for the Vibrant is "meh" for most. This is a bummer to me but I kept hearing about using a custom and its advantages. Thankfully I bumped into a very useful thread posted by xriderx66 on his reviews on some of the roms out now. Based on what he said, I'm looking to flashing my phone to the Bionix-V Rom by Team Whiskey. Problem is I have no idea how to get started. What do I need to do to flash my phone? Any program I need to download first? How do I backup my files? I'm such a noob at this its funny but I'm willing to take the risk and experience this phone the way it should be experienced. If someone can post a link showing a step by step on how to do the whole thing I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance

Go to the development thread and browse through the stickies. Reading and more reading should be the first two things you do. Pay attention to anything relating to odin.
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TheAggression said:
I completely new to the whole flashing and custom rom thing. I've never tried anything like it and don't know much about it. The closest I've come to hacking or rooting my Vibrant phone is with the OCLF app. Now, I too have been patiently waiting for Froyo to come out and for some reason when it did come out I was hesitant to get it. I wanted to see what people were saying about it before I downloaded and installed it. So far from what I'm seeing, its not all its cracked up to be and it seems like Froyo for the Vibrant is "meh" for most. This is a bummer to me but I kept hearing about using a custom and its advantages. Thankfully I bumped into a very useful thread posted by xriderx66 on his reviews on some of the roms out now. Based on what he said, I'm looking to flashing my phone to the Bionix-V Rom by Team Whiskey. Problem is I have no idea how to get started. What do I need to do to flash my phone? Any program I need to download first? How do I backup my files? I'm such a noob at this its funny but I'm willing to take the risk and experience this phone the way it should be experienced. If someone can post a link showing a step by step on how to do the whole thing I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance
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Read the below thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028

Thanks a million bro!
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Your welcome. Let me know if you run into any issues.
Sent from a Galaxy S far....far....away.

That thread he posted for you is the best information I have been able to find for someone that is just getting started. I too am just kinda dancing around flashing bionix v. I have rooted and downloaded rom manager and clockwork though...just about ready to flash as soon as I gather up the courage. But everything I have done up to this point was learned in the Noob Guide he linked. Its like vibrant flashing for dummies.
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Will do jbat! Once again thanks. @ goodvibrant, I hear you. Tomorrow when I have the time I will flash this phone to the Bionix thanks to this noob guide. I took a look at the guide and it seems pretty easy to follow. I look forward to it!
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Sure thing man. No problem. Ive received help and try to give it when I can. I figure if I can help with the easier questions then the guys that know a hell of a lot more than I do, can focus on the advanced questions. Everyone is here to learn.
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Anyone else stuck with D12?

Had my Fascinate since launch date. Waited and saw the DI01 come through/ tried to update my phone...install failed miserably..no matter how many times I tried, even did full restore.
I was going to try to get a full DL09 and flash it to my phone, I have Odin, downloaded the .tar file. But got frustrated. I'm pretty computer literate, but for some reason this stuff just escapes me. Anyway went to VZW today and ordered a warranty replacement, should be here Friday. Hopefully this one works and I will either wait for the rumored 22nd release date of Froyo or I will try and download it and flash it...if I can do it.

What hardware version?

Why didn't u post here before u ordered a replacement. It really seem s like the problem was not the phone but what u did.
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Kaze105 said:
Why didn't u post here before u ordered a replacement. It really seem s like the problem was not the phone but what u did.
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I did nothing other than what the phone told me to do. If you had read what I posted I have had the phone since day 1 launch. Have not attempted to root or put any other version of firmware on my phone.
So don't come at me sideways about it. I did nothing to my phone...yet

Sorry to hear about your issues, but we probably could have helped you out with getting updated. There was a phone in a local VZW store that is stuck on DH12 as well cause the DI01 update kept failing.

Skrazz said:
What hardware version?
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i500.04
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband S:i500.04 . DH12
Kernel Version 2.6.29
Build number SCH-I500.DH12

imnuts said:
Sorry to hear about your issues, but we probably could have helped you out with getting updated. There was a phone in a local VZW store that is stuck on DH12 as well cause the DI01 update kept failing.
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It's all good man. Getting a brand new phone as opposed to a refurbished one. I understand what to do, I get the general idea as to how, I can read the steps but I am more of a visual learner, so pictures to go along with these install steps would help someone out like me.
I also work for a VZW Premium Retailer. Corporate stores don't like us much, so kinda shocked the Sales Rep that I had as much knowledge about the phone as I did. It's actually a known software problem with the phones. As well as the issue that if you use the unlock pattern on the phone and fail at it 19 times or more it will lock the phone out...it will ask you for the gmail information that you provided but even that will not work, resetting the phone to stock will not work...I was told this by a Samsung Tech Agent that it was a known software issue with their devices.

Got my new phone today.DL09 on the Baseband....now on to root, and Froyo...hopefully

Godspeed, good sir...
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AC has a nice guide and package for the latest froyo leak.
forum.androidcentral.com/verizon-fascinate-rooting-roms-hacks/59348-odin-full-eb01-froyo-leak-packaged-w-root-new-clockwork.html

Soulchaer said:
I did nothing other than what the phone told me to do. If you had read what I posted I have had the phone since day 1 launch. Have not attempted to root or put any other version of firmware on my phone.
So don't come at me sideways about it. I did nothing to my phone...yet
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Huh? Im not trying to come at you sideways as it says in your first post, you tried to flash DL09, had problems and then went to verizon for a replacement. (Hence the reason why I said some people here could have helped possibly).
Either way, hope you get froyo onto your fine, good luck.

Could you help me? I'm on DH12 and voodoo v.2... i'm trying to basically go back to stock with all the bloat and no root so that I can return the phone...if I choose to... which steps should I take? a direction to a post will suffice... Thank you...

Azaurath said:
AC has a nice guide and package for the latest froyo leak.
forum.androidcentral.com/verizon-fascinate-rooting-roms-hacks/59348-odin-full-eb01-froyo-leak-packaged-w-root-new-clockwork.html
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Locked and loaded...BADASS...Thank you to all the Devs who make this **** happen. Without your tireless efforts, dedication, relentless question answering..we the masses would be lost..

yuhang said:
Could you help me? I'm on DH12 and voodoo v.2... i'm trying to basically go back to stock with all the bloat and no root so that I can return the phone...if I choose to... which steps should I take? a direction to a post will suffice... Thank you...
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First you should disable voodoo.
Then follow this post. It should wipe your phone and put a completely stock version of DL09 on it.
Just make sure to use the PDA button in Odin only.
*OFFICIAL* DL09.tar.md5

Azaurath said:
First you should disable voodoo.
Then follow this post. It should wipe your phone and put a completely stock version of DL09 on it.
Just make sure to use the PDA button in Odin only.
*OFFICIAL* DL09.tar.md5
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You don't even have to disable voodoo. Just flash that and you're done.

Personally I've learn once you do an OTA update, it will not allow you to do it again. It has happened to me when I've tried to do every offical update more than once

thank you for the quick information, I will try it now and report back.