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Are You Bored of your HD2?

My phone history is no small list i've tried pretty much everything out there From N97, to Blackberry 9700... HD2 cought my eye because i originally had the HD, however it seems that i'm getting the itch to move on to possibly the N900 or E72
Anyways just wondering what your experiences have been like with your device, and what are your most cool applications?

I change phones quite often too. My last phone in fact was a N900. Great phone yet I felt it was a bit slow. So far I am loving the hd2 and don't have plans to switch for quite some time. With every phone there was always something that bothered me. I thought Windows mobile would be it but so far it has been great. My only past issue was with a touch diamond being a bit sluggish, this hd2 definitely does not have that problem.
I could possibly see a jump to the N900, but an E72 (used to own an E71)?! No way. Using symbian is like jumping through a time warp to the past.

i know im lil off topic but i feel you guys on never finding perfect phone before one i got now. I dont mean to push android on WM guys but other then lil lag sometimes its been best phone for me.

It's gonna take a real monster of a phone for me to even think about considering getting rid of my HD2.
I've never been as happy with a phone as I am with this, and I don't think I'll start having wandering eyes for a looooooooong time!

wait till Winmo 7 comes. I reckon it will be a real sweet OS
I also change phones quite often. I always loved my iphone 3GS, but the HD2 has kept my attention for a while now. It does everything my iphone used to do for me.
I think once Microsoft implements Xbox live games into winmo, we'll all be laughing!

I'll get bored when they have a dual core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon or Tegra 2 HD3 with WM7

DMAND said:
I'll get bored when they have a dual core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon or Tegra 2 HD3 with WM7
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And AT LEAST a 4.7" screen. lol - I wouldn't really want one that big, but I definitely don't want smaller!

johncmolyneux said:
And AT LEAST a 4.7" screen. lol - I wouldn't really want one that big, but I definitely don't want smaller!
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I wouldn't mind an even bigger screen. They could do it with the hd2 by removing the border around the lcd. Imagine nothing but screen corner to corner.

in the end it's still a phone.. doesn't have wheels or boobs..

The experience of the HD2 in most cases spoils you, and you will find it difficult to use a phone with a smaller screen. Apart from the earpiece quality at the higher frequencies, i am completly happy with this phone having owned about 10 different phones including iphone.

bel_z_bub said:
in the end it's still a phone.. doesn't have wheels or boobs..
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But I heard that on WM7 it will preform BJ's .

I must say, the HD2 is one of the best phone I came across.
I've worked over 2 years as the buyer for a multimedia chain and got the oppertunity to test drive a whole lot of device.
Also I'm using a ppc over 7 years now and untill the HD2 there were only 2 devices who have the "professional"/fun factor that the HD2 has.
And that was the Magician and the Universal.
Now I don't argue about the N900 because he has a "full" linux on it and for the linux guru's this is a wonderfull device. But if you aren't that good or fond in Linux then there is nothing special on the N900, and he is idd quite slow in normal use.
The other problem is that several years ago people did not compare a ppc with a normal phone (nokia symbian and etc...) but the mainstream users now also want a pcc thus the discussing is started... (certainly no personal blame meant)

I have no intentions of getting rid of the HD2 until there is a Nvidia Tegra powered platform available running WinMo7 with a screen equal to or bigger than the HD2.
The extra screen size compared to other mobiles on the market today really does make all the difference. I see people considering exchanging their HD2 for the Nexus One, but personally I find the screen a real letdown after being used to my HTC.
The one thing that does bug me about it is the low capacity battery included but, touch wood, so far I've managed to keep it running 24/7 by charging thru the night and every now and again in the car. Not enough of a let down for me to start looking at other handsets anyhow.

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The one thing that does bug me about it is the low capacity battery included but, touch wood, so far I've managed to keep it running 24/7 by charging thru the night and every now and again in the car. Not enough of a let down for me to start looking at other handsets anyhow.
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That is a serious battery drain, do you work so much on your device?
Eg I use my device constantly, 15 sms/day, 1 a 2hours phone, 30min surfing wifi and or hspda and I can do over a day and a half with one battery charge

This topics makes me laugh (not being offensive).
But it's pretty difficult to get bored of it. Of course we could have much more action on it but i'm sure in time we will have that also.

I cant see myself getting bored of the HTC HD2 anytime soon. Still got lots to do to it. Custom Roms, writing my own apps etc. Once i have it perfect then I will be using it until my contract runs out and i can get the latest super phone for free

Seeing as I have just discovered 800x480 encoding of 720p videos using WinMenc makes amazingly clear videos, and the demo of Electopia showing OpenGL 2.0 capabilities, I don't see myself getting bored any time soon.

thomas_pieps said:
That is a serious battery drain, do you work so much on your device?
Eg I use my device constantly, 15 sms/day, 1 a 2hours phone, 30min surfing wifi and or hspda and I can do over a day and a half with one battery charge
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Yeah, I use it constantly for the web and MSN (wifi/hsdpa/3g) as well as calls/sms. I could probably tweak it to last longer by disabling wifi/bluetooth etc when not connected but haven't found a good app to automate this yet.
Of course, once I find a 'cheap' car-cradle with built-in micro-usb (ie. put the phone in the cradle and it automatically starts charging - rather than fiddle around with cables and whatnot) the batterylife won't be a problem no more.

karkid said:
My phone history is no small list i've tried pretty much everything out there From N97, to Blackberry 9700... HD2 cought my eye because i originally had the HD, however it seems that i'm getting the itch to move on to possibly the N900 or E72
Anyways just wondering what your experiences have been like with your device, and what are your most cool applications?
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No where near board with it but as you've most likely tried everything there is for the HD2 why don't you list your best top 10 apps that you've tried and then we'll compare notes

For me the HD2 is my very first PocketPC/Smartphone. For me this phone is very powerful that it'll do fine for the coming years, if the phone can last that long. My only reason for switching to another phone is when the specs are at least equal to the one of the HD2, MUCH improved battery life and support of both capacative and resistive touch with adequate software and UI support. You can't get better than that. I'm not a gamer, so more power and a higher frequency is not necessarily my wish.

Things I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?

Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone

go for HD7

Yeah, the Desire builds of Android are indeed pretty decent, and sooner or later the HD2 is gonna be running WP7 aswell so thats kinda a double win there.

sathara said:
go for HD7
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??? Hmmm, helpful.
If you want to run Android full-time, then battery life may be your biggest issue, but apart from that I find that the current Android ROMs are pretty flawless, and it might be worth the trade-off for allowing you to dual-boot to WM, and save a few £100...
I'd say software-wise there's next to no difference, so after that, it's just a case of comparing the hardware side-by-side to seeing if any differences matter to you, e.g. camera-quality etc.
And a HD7 is just the HD2 hardware, but with non-expandable memory, and an okay-ish OS. Certainly not worth shelling out top-dollar for yet.

No HD7 please. Dont want a WP7 for now. Just want an android phone.
How bad is battery while running android ? Not looking forward to run WinMo anwyays.
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen

If you visit the HD2 Android forums, there's a lot in there about battery life expectations. From all that I would have read, I think a safe generalisation is ~18 hours between recharges, so it depends if that suits your daily patterns (I can just about make it back into bed each night with a little juice left, and then leave it on charge until the next morning).
I've ordered the HTC Extended Battery, which will hopefully give me 1.5/2 days.

sathara said:
go for HD7
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wow............totally bad post there.....who wants to downgrade to WP7?

Apart from battery no other issues ? Battery if gives me 12 hrs of heavy usage i would be happy It delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD delivers ?

I'd really like others to reply, as the more opinions the better , but yes, I find that is is just like the Desire in every regard.
People have faced problems with:
-Data dropping
-Screen taking a while to turn on if screen rotation is on
-'Robot voice' on calls (e.g. you can't hear your call through distortion
But I believe I am right in saying that these have all been just about resolved within the last few weeks in many ROMs. Finding the right combo of ROM and Radio takes some time, but when you do, you should be fine. I face no issues on a daily basis.
The ROMs runs smooth, you get fine-running Live Wallpapers, all Apps work great without slowdown, WiFi is fine, I believe the same with Bluetooth, etc. etc. Some ROMs still have quirks, and in mine (MDeeJay Froyo Revolution) I find sometimes that I cannot save a Contact, but otherwise yes.
If money is no object, get the Desire.
If..
-You want to save the £300 or so
-Want the flexibility of another OS to use
Then get the HD.
I'd suggest looking around http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=743 and even perhaps posting this Q there as well.

Thanks. I vl do that

Major advantages of Desire HD over HD2 with custom Android rom?

I am considering picking up and HD2 and loading it with the latest Desire HD Rom.
Before I fork out, can anyone who has seen both running side by side explain any disadvantages of doing so?
I'd like to hear how the performance is, as the DHD is blisteringly fast and if the HD2 seriously lags with the DHD rom I may well reconsider. Obviously the camera is a selling point of the DHD but when we are looking at nearly £300 difference I can live with the reduced megapixel count!
Seriously tempted to get the DHD and dual boot it with Android and Winmo 6.5 but would love to hear from you guys first about any down sides.
People who have done this already, are you pleased with the result or hankering for the DHD?
Thanks.

maybe the buttons? I hear many HD2 users complaining about them. But I must say I never have troubles with my device, I tested out some other HTC android devices and my HD2 is faster, there are roms here that get 3000 + quadrant score, and the DHD doesn't even get close to this.. But I think, the biggest problem with the HD2 is not always having cell reception. 9% of the time - 30% depending upon the area you live in ofcourse so that doesn't affect but also radio and that does affect so it takes quite a while before you found the best radio for your device, also because the radio affects your battery life. So you need to figure out a radio wich gives you optimal reception and also optimal battery life. I think a radio in the 2.10.50.X class is the best for me, but other users prefer other radio's. I use android every day so I must say, there is absolutely no lag on the HD2 but there is on other devices that run android only. THE PLUS: you can use TOMTOM, play PSX Games with PS3 controller, ... all windows things, yes you can hehe. The minus: booting android takes up to 3 minutes, okay it's not a really big deal but the DHD boots in 10 secs that's really amazing. what is cool is that our builds can be huge because we don't need an internal storage, android runs from SD, and faster than winmo even! so if you use a HIGHSPEED SD (HC), then you will have a nice android device. People are working on a 720P camcorder atm. I don't know I would doubt too! I like having winmo..

The difference is that HD2 has dozen of ROM both for Android and WM you can choose from,this in itself is a big advantage and freedom alike,I myself try an Android build at least a day!,they are fast and furious!,but keep going back to WM,nostalgia ,may be,however my son,who also has an HD2 he has become an Android fan,after he wears out this phone will most probably stick to another HD2.
Sorry if a bit off topic.I say get an HD2 this is a nice device.

Thanks for your input guyts, very helpful!
Can I just ask about the multitouch and the ability to play divx / avi videos using an application such as rockplayer / vplayer? Is this ipossible and as smooth as the native Android devices?
Multitouch I think is important for the on screen keyboard. Is this as good as the native android devices also?
I'm almost sold I think from your comments so far!

xspyda said:
Thanks for your input guyts, very helpful!
Can I just ask about the multitouch and the ability to play divx / avi videos using an application such as rockplayer / vplayer? Is this ipossible and as smooth as the native Android devices?
Multitouch I think is important for the on screen keyboard. Is this as good as the native android devices also?
I'm almost sold I think from your comments so far!
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The hd2 only has 2 point multitouch, and it has issues where it will register 2 touches as being on the same axis if they are close to being on same axis. can mess you up when playing games with onscreen controllers. Newer android devices have 4 point multitouch.
I always say if you plan on just running android, get an android phone. When people say the hd2 runs android better than native android phones, they are usually comparing the tweaked, modified hd2 to a stock android phone. If you put in the time tweaking, rooting, and modifying the native android phone properly, it will run android much better than the hd2 can usually. And android phones also have custom roms with different builds you can try out also. A bunch of android phones can now dual-boot into 2 different android builds, running one off sd card, also.
Now, if you want to have winmo also on your phone, you can't beat the HD2. It does run android great for a port... definitely the best android port on a winmo phone... but you can definitely get native android phones with similar specs to run android much better if you take the time to learn to modify and tweak it like you would do with the HD2.

Despite being a big MS fan, I have not gone back to WM since getting Android working smoothly. It runs perfectly for Divx videos on VPlayer (my personal fave)(and using CifManager I even stream movies from my WLAN server when at home!), and I use PSX4Droid with absolutely no lag issues, or multi-touch issues. My one piece of advice if you go down this route is to get the extended battery, so that you get a comfortable 2-day battery life.
Day-to-day, no issues at all, although you do need some trial and error for ROMs/Radio/Kernal.
If my HD2 died tomorrow, I'd get another HD2 for Android full-time. If money was no issue, I'd get the Desire HD, but honestly I do not see any reason against the HD2.

There are some phones that set the trend for XDA. It is the most popular for the time being and most devs own that phone. It might not be the best hardware for its time but since almost all devs and cookers develop for it, it is best to stick to it. I call this XDA phone. Currently, imho, that phone is HD2. This is why HD2 gets more android builds than many native android phones. My next phone will also be an XDA phone

Desire or Desire HD (Suggestion needed)

Hello,
i am planning to buy a new smartphone. In the past i had some Windows Mobile Phones. The synchronising between Exchange and the smartphone was very good, but the performance and many "apps" are only for android, iphone or symbian, but not windows mobile
So.. i thought iphone or android. A friend of mine has a HTC Desire and he is satisfied with this device. But he suggested me to buy the follower device.
So i searched for the desire hd and found some pro and contras. I think the critical contras are:
- Device crashes very often
- Battery life (5h?)
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
So i want to know what the archievements of the desire hd according to the desire are and if you would suggest me to buy the desire or the desire hd. And if you also discovered this contras.
I am not using wlan very often, i think, this is one of the features, that needs the most current...
Thank you for your help and sorry for my bad english
Best regards,
Selfarian

Depends what's best for you. The Desire HD is fast, and looks it, with its giant (although slightly washed out) screen. The desire is much prettier, although its processor is less efficient and older, using, some would say, 'outdated' technologies. Though it's not slow ;D The battery issues are with both phones, but are stretchable to a sufficient full day with a good ROM.In the end it's just about what matters to you - a beast of a massive screen with a powerhouse hiding behind it (with true multi-touch) Or an absolutely gorgeous phone with a smaller screen and performance to match (There are multi-touch issues- Best to read up on this, it could be vital in your decision.)
Good luck picking what works best for you

I agree with the post above. It all depends on what you need rather then the "best out there". Most comments on comparison, especially on a forum, are subjective.
With that said, the specs for the Desire and DHD are comparable. I own both and there are two things that make a difference; Screen size and type. I'm sure you know the differences between them from the research you have already made.

i havent experienced the crash problem to be honest, and battery life is about the same it was with my desire. the battery cover is poorly designed, and every time you take it off, you feel as if your going to brake it lol touch wood i hasne broke yet tho

Ok. Have you any experiences how long the battery lasts in both devices with "normal" use and with the stock rom?
My experience is, that the battery in a smartphone lasts for 1 Day... maybe 1,5 Days...
At the moment i think, the hd is the better choice, because of the speed and the bigger display... i made so bad experiences with "slow" smartphones... I don't like it, when i want to place a call and my windows fone mentions: "Sense is restarting..."...

Selfarian said:
Ok. Have you any experiences how long the battery lasts in both devices with "normal" use and with the stock rom?
My experience is, that the battery in a smartphone lasts for 1 Day... maybe 1,5 Days...
At the moment i think, the hd is the better choice, because of the speed and the bigger display... i made so bad experiences with "slow" smartphones... I don't like it, when i want to place a call and my windows fone mentions: "Sense is restarting..."...
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I'm on stock and 16 hours before reaching 30% is typical for me. I use 3G and tether devices quite a bit. Calls, games, texts and e-mail are used throughout the day with sync on 100% of the time.
I've noticed that 3G uses a lot of battery and an hours worth of usage can easily knock off 15% while standby takes 1%/hour.
Bottomline is that it can, normally, get you through a typical workday.

That sounds very good... It seems to be the same usage that i will have...
Ok... the first days, when the device is new and when i "have to" try "every" app from the marketplace, the usage will be much more ...

Selfarian said:
That sounds very good... It seems to be the same usage that i will have...
Ok... the first days, when the device is new and when i "have to" try "every" app from the marketplace, the usage will be much more ...
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Yeah, I think 6 hours with you trying out every aspect of the phone will be as far as you go during the first few days. We do tend to be a bit over eager with something new.

There is another difference between the two 'phones - the number of Apps which can co-exist. I'm currently using the Desire, and I'm increasingly frustrated at the space available (or, rather, not) for new Apps, and I have moved as many as I can to the SD card (thanks to Froyo). Every time there's a new update to be downloaded, I have to uninstall some Apps before I have enough spare space, then re-download them.
The Desire HD has three times as much App storage space, as far as I can understand.
(Edit) Next payday, I'm intending to purchase the Desire HD, unless there's something better comes out beforehand!

iant54 said:
There is another difference between the two 'phones - the number of Apps which can co-exist. I'm currently using the Desire, and I'm increasingly frustrated at the space available (or, rather, not) for new Apps, and I have moved as many as I can to the SD card (thanks to Froyo). Every time there's a new update to be downloaded, I have to uninstall some Apps before I have enough spare space, then re-download them.
The Desire HD has three times as much App storage space, as far as I can understand.
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This is an interesting point and very true. I completely agree.

Selfarian said:
Hello,
i am planning to buy a new smartphone. In the past i had some Windows Mobile Phones. The synchronising between Exchange and the smartphone was very good, but the performance and many "apps" are only for android, iphone or symbian, but not windows mobile
So.. i thought iphone or android. A friend of mine has a HTC Desire and he is satisfied with this device. But he suggested me to buy the follower device.
So i searched for the desire hd and found some pro and contras. I think the critical contras are:
- Device crashes very often
- Battery life (5h?)
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
So i want to know what the archievements of the desire hd according to the desire are and if you would suggest me to buy the desire or the desire hd. And if you also discovered this contras.
I am not using wlan very often, i think, this is one of the features, that needs the most current...
Thank you for your help and sorry for my bad english
Best regards,
Selfarian
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Hi, I tried desire and dhd, decide to keep dhd, its just much better phone for longer term - offer a bit more for money, and htcsense.com in another plus...

iant54 said:
There is another difference between the two 'phones - the number of Apps which can co-exist. I'm currently using the Desire, and I'm increasingly frustrated at the space available (or, rather, not) for new Apps, and I have moved as many as I can to the SD card (thanks to Froyo). Every time there's a new update to be downloaded, I have to uninstall some Apps before I have enough spare space, then re-download them.
The Desire HD has three times as much App storage space, as far as I can understand.
(Edit) Next payday, I'm intending to purchase the Desire HD, unless there's something better comes out beforehand!
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Ah ok... so... the Apps can (normally) only be stored on the internal storage and not on the sd card?

- Device crashes very often
Really? Which OS do u use? No problem here using CM7
- Battery life (5h?)
Are u playing online game? Well, on standby mode i can have it for ~18+ hours with regular calls/sms.
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
Play with the demo device before u do it to ur fone =)
DHD is worth buying and it has better GPU than D

lpachuong said:
- Device crashes very often
Really? Which OS do u use? No problem here using CM7
- Battery life (5h?)
Are u playing online game? Well, on standby mode i can have it for ~18+ hours with regular calls/sms.
- Difficulty to lift of the battery without destoing something
Play with the demo device before u do it to ur fone =)
DHD is worth buying and it has better GPU than D
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I have no DHD, that are only some points, wich i read in some comments. So i just wanted to know if this are real problems (with the stock rom)...

ive been running the dhd since november 9th, and i can honistly say its the best thing since sliced bread, a couple of friends purchased the desire at the same time and they now look at mine in envy even though there is nothing wrong with thier phones.
The battery is not its stongest point, i listen to audiobooks all day at work and manage to get my battery down to 30% with calls and internet thrown in. But i also run juice defender that seems to make a massive improovement. There is also a thread about putting flash to on demand - ive just found this and currently testing so cannot comferm.
As for crashes, yes them machine was pretty buggy to start off with, but workaround and fixes have been done, ive found now since running leedroid my phone has been a solid as a pre 2000 nokia lol.
The covers on the battery and cards are a big let down, but tbh how often are you going to remove them?, unless your carrying extra batterys and cards around you will find that you wont remove them, i last removed my battery cover when i was rooting and flashing my phone originally in december. For the battery i carry around a zip charger which will 80% charge my phone if i need it, but this hasnt been used for about 2 months as well.
Ive never had a phone before that has impressed me to this degree, ive had the g1, moto milestone, wildfire (now the wifes) and the dhd - this is so far the only android phone i can see myself still using when my contract is up in 2 years.
This is how good the phone is, i sub to live prem football streaming site, and i watch all the games on my dhd - not though 3g mind you as the bandwidth is too low but on wifi its incredible.
now for getting an app that will make me a coffee......

I have had both phones. The screen on the desire is better...quite a bit better when you have them side by side. However for me, the HD is a better phone all round. I prefer the bigger screen. I was concerned about it fitting in my pocket, but I had nothing to worry about. More memory for apps, bigger screen, faster processor...easy decision for me.

I suggest you wait.. for the next batch of phones..
It is too late to decide on those 2 since their elder brothers are coming soon

Got the dhd. It rocked my world really. Battery can go anywhere between 12h(wireless, games, calls, music, surfing) and close to 48h with minimal but not zero usage. Has hd recording whereas desire does not. Bigger screen, aluminium build. Froyo by default, although i read something about the desire getting it too. Also i have to warn you, you will not let it out of your hands for some 10ish hours after you first open it. Only disadvantage you could have is the phone being too big for your pocket. Regarding crashes... never had one since i bought it. You should also consider the desire z if you're a casual phone user. Oh yes, the dolby audio enhancement + stock headphones = win
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Thanks for all the new suggestions.
Problem is now, my wife won't spent so much money for a mobilephone DAMN IT!!!!
My hope is, when the desire s (unsure if the name is right) comes out, the hd gets cheaper...
*hoping so much*

wid0w said:
Got the dhd. It rocked my world really. Battery can go anywhere between 12h(wireless, games, calls, music, surfing) and close to 48h with minimal but not zero usage. Has hd recording whereas desire does not. Bigger screen, aluminium build. Froyo by default, although i read something about the desire getting it too. Also i have to warn you, you will not let it out of your hands for some 10ish hours after you first open it. Only disadvantage you could have is the phone being too big for your pocket. Regarding crashes... never had one since i bought it. You should also consider the desire z if you're a casual phone user. Oh yes, the dolby audio enhancement + stock headphones = win
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The desire has HD Video recording and also had froyo before the DHD was even released. So i dont know what your chatting about..
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[Q] Quick general info about different HD2 ports

Hi,
I'm standing in front of a quick decision of whether or not buy an HD2, have to give a quick answer.
I have done a quick search and found out hat there are several options to get rid of the stock WM6.5:
Nand wp7;
Nand android (sense hd or cm7);
SD android;
Dual boot wp7 and SD android.
Is that all? Another question is how is the general battery life?
I have an HTC desire and I've configured it so well that my wife wants to have it to replace her phone. So my question here is that if someone can give me some general info on what status these options are at right now. Which one do you think is more mature than others? I'd like to have a rather stable build and I personally prefer nand android coz I have good experience with desire and I am familiar with the customization.
I can do the mods myself later, but I have to decide very soon if I'd buy an HD2 from a friend, under time stress I cannot get an overview very fast...
Thank you guys for understanding!
Typed with my Desire.

First of all, if the price is right no matter what you're planning to do with it, the hd2 is an awesome device! It has been a long time since I have kept a phone for this long, me being a die hard htc modder, I find myself not needing to do much modding after I went nand back in january 6th, I love my phone and I'm planning on using it the full 22 months on my TMO contract until I can get an upgrade.
Now you're gonna get a one sided opinion from me since I hate windows phone 7, I can only tell you about my android experiences with my hd2.
I started to use dual boot sd android builds back in late october last year and I found that with a bit of tweaking I had a build that I could use every day and with the hot reboot option I totally stopped booting into windows mobile 6.5 unless I was gonna make some changes in my sd card. even when I was on sd card builds I got a decent battery life, around 10 to 14 hrs of moderate to heavy use, and now I'm running nand cyanogenmod7 android 2.3 and I unplug my phone around 3am to go to work and I still have about 15 to 20% around 8pm.
I'm sure you can tweak it to your hearts desire and make it run like a beast.
Now I don't know if you're a skilled phone modder/flasher but it's quite easy for everything to be done. I've been modding phones for a long time and it's a no brainer to me when it comes to phone flashing. Now you got to ask yourself this question, do I want to have a phone capable of running 5 different OS and have the capability of modifying it like no other phone I've owned before?
Now on the stability part of your question, it all depends on what you're looking for , a sense build, cyanogenmod, or miui. Depending who you talk to , they'll tell you their build is the most stable and it's perfect, meaning there's a lot of stable builds for the hd2, and there's a lot of developer support, so if there's an issue, a solution will be around the corner. So if you like the phone and it's within your price range then you wont regret it.

Is that all? I don't think many other phones can run that many OS's.
But yeah its a beast. Most if not all the NAND ROM's are stable now and they're just improving as the days go on. If you're getting the HD2 for cheap and giving your wife your desire it would be well worth it. You could show off the fancy new Sense too.
Oh and XDA app might say I'm on a N1 but I'm actually on a very stable Gingerbread ROM.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

On a HD2 ofcourse lol.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

If you love to tweak, try out new stuff, explore, then this is your phone sent down from the heavens. Performance is great in every aspect, good enough for normal use. However it is non comparable to a true android device flashed with a custom rom and tweaked. Battery is okie. On normal use you could prolly get two days worth. However normal daily use meaning 45 mins of talkng/texting/email, 1 hr of internet, 30 mins of music, 30 mins of videos/games and then the rest on standby.
Now if you're looking for something that just works great, then get a true android phone, it'll save you the reading since you already know how to operate android phones and it'll run better than the HD2.

Kailkti said:
If you love to tweak, try out new stuff, explore, then this is your phone sent down from the heavens. Performance is great in every aspect, good enough for normal use. However it is non comparable to a true android device flashed with a custom rom and tweaked. Battery is okie. On normal use you could prolly get two days worth. However normal daily use meaning 45 mins of talkng/texting/email, 1 hr of internet, 30 mins of music, 30 mins of videos/games and then the rest on standby.
Now if you're looking for something that just works great, then get a true android phone, it'll save you the reading since you already know how to operate android phones and it'll run better than the HD2.
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This is the reply I most agreed with. It's the most versatile phone and most moddable... but if you're just looking to run android, a native phone will give you better, more stable performance when properly rooted and modded, and you will get better battery life out of a native phone. The android port on android gets good standby time, so if you don't use you phone much and it's usually on standby, you can get 2-3 days out of it. But it will only last about 3 hours of straight use... even less with some games or processor intensive apps. Surfing the web or using xda app will eat your battery up in about 3 hours, while with my brothers stock galaxy s phone with a similar sized battery, I will get double that, at least. The thing is, android is a port on the HD2, so the drivers used are not always the best and are usually based off of drivers meant for other devices.
But if you like modding and hacking your phone, and you want to dual boot wp7 and android, and can deal with the occasional bug or problem, and can deal with the bad battery life while using the phone, the HD2 is a great phone. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out right now... but I dualboot wp7 and android, and like them both equally and couldn't decide which os I wanted if I had to pick another phone. And to think I originally bought this phone because it had winmo6.5... now I don't even have that OS on my phone!
Oh, another difference between the HD2 and a native android phone is that with the HD2 you only get 65,000 colors on the screen and only 2-point multitouch which can be buggy... with a native android phone you have something like 4million colors and newer android phones usually have true multitouch, which is more than 2 points. So you might get color banding on your screen with some launchers or apps on the HD2, and apps that use multitouch may have problems.
Many people who use android exclusively are looking to switch to native android phones, especially with the next gen phones coming out. But for the price that you can get the HD2, it can make a great android phone. So if you have the money to spare and just want android, I'd get one of the next generation android phones when they're released or get a DesireHD or something native if you need a phone now. But if you're on a budget, or love to play with phones, or want to dual-boot, then the HD2 is perfect.
Sorry for such a long. dragged on post. Tired right now, and kept thinkingof more things to add.

Thanks all you guys!
I think most of you are satisfied with your HD2.
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This is the reply I most agreed with. It's the most versatile phone and most moddable... but if you're just looking to run android, a native phone will give you better, more stable performance when properly rooted and modded, and you will get better battery life out of a native phone. The android port on android gets good standby time, so if you don't use you phone much and it's usually on standby, you can get 2-3 days out of it. But it will only last about 3 hours of straight use... even less with some games or processor intensive apps. Surfing the web or using xda app will eat your battery up in about 3 hours, while with my brothers stock galaxy s phone with a similar sized battery, I will get double that, at least. The thing is, android is a port on the HD2, so the drivers used are not always the best and are usually based off of drivers meant for other devices.
But if you like modding and hacking your phone, and you want to dual boot wp7 and android, and can deal with the occasional bug or problem, and can deal with the bad battery life while using the phone, the HD2 is a great phone. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out right now... but I dualboot wp7 and android, and like them both equally and couldn't decide which os I wanted if I had to pick another phone. And to think I originally bought this phone because it had winmo6.5... now I don't even have that OS on my phone!
Oh, another difference between the HD2 and a native android phone is that with the HD2 you only get 65,000 colors on the screen and only 2-point multitouch which can be buggy... with a native android phone you have something like 4million colors and newer android phones usually have true multitouch, which is more than 2 points. So you might get color banding on your screen with some launchers or apps on the HD2, and apps that use multitouch may have problems.
Many people who use android exclusively are looking to switch to native android phones, especially with the next gen phones coming out. But for the price that you can get the HD2, it can make a great android phone. So if you have the money to spare and just want android, I'd get one of the next generation android phones when they're released or get a DesireHD or something native if you need a phone now. But if you're on a budget, or love to play with phones, or want to dual-boot, then the HD2 is perfect.
Sorry for such a long. dragged on post. Tired right now, and kept thinkingof more things to add.
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I think I can handle the tweaks pretty well.
It seems that one can find a smooth build or ROM without big difficulty. But is the battery drain that bad? Three hours of constant use? I also read some other posts that say their battery can last about 10 hours with heavy use... I'm a little bit confused.
My Desire has a standby of more than 2 days with moderate use. With constant use is in any case more than 12 hours...

3 hours depends on what you're doing. Eg. Listening music and playing games will prolly eat it up fast enough for maybe 3 hours or later, depends on whether the game is CPU and GPU intensive. If say your watching flash videos, you can expect prolly 3-4 hours also. but just surfing internet, I'd say 4-6, listening to music on speaker 5-6 , on headphones about 7-8, (both listening to music on standby), yeah pretty much that.

CrisperNeO said:
Thanks all you guys!
I think most of you are satisfied with your HD2.
I think I can handle the tweaks pretty well.
It seems that one can find a smooth build or ROM without big difficulty. But is the battery drain that bad? Three hours of constant use? I also read some other posts that say their battery can last about 10 hours with heavy use... I'm a little bit confused.
My Desire has a standby of more than 2 days with moderate use. With constant use is in any case more than 12 hours...
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I think when people say heavy use they are saying using it often, but not constantly on. If you have the screen constantly on and use it, the battery drain very quickly. When people make descriptions of heavy, moderate or light use, everyone means something different, so its hard to know what that means... but with constant use, the battery will drain in a few hours. That's where you really see the difference with the port on the hd2 and a native device. A native phone will get at least 6-8 hours of constant use usually. But the HD2 will drain quickly while you have screen on and web browsing or gaming, etc.
I've noticed a lot of people will like to exaggerate to try to prove their HD2 is as good as a native phone, but if you look around, most will admit that with constant web browsing or activity where the screen is on and in use, the phone only lasts 3-4 hours, maybe less with games. Personally I think the HD2 is better than a native android phone because of the ability to run wp7 also, and I have a spare battery I carry with me, and a big external battery I can take with me if I know I won't have anywhere to charge my battery.
Also, if you use a bluetooth headset, leaving bluetooth on really drains battery a lot during standby... the bluetooth driver for the HD2 android really needs to be worked on.

Thanks a lot!
So far you guys persuaded me.
I think I'll take the deal and give HD2 a try.
Typed with my Desire.

CrisperNeO said:
Thanks a lot!
So far you guys persuaded me.
I think I'll take the deal and give HD2 a try.
Typed with my Desire.
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Have fun... I'm sure you'll like it. All the stuff you can do with it kinda makes up for the bad battery life. You'll learn to conserve it, and it's not difficult carrying an extra battery. It gets addictive flashing your phone and updating all the time. It can become very time-consuming if you let it.
Good luck.