When writing text message, screen jumps up to the conversation - G2 and Desire Z General

I'm having a problem with writing text messages.
When in a certain conversation, I start to type using the Hardware keyboard, and after a few words the screen just jumps up in a few stages - first I can't see the Attachment button, then the Send button semi-disappears, and then I'm in the middle of the conversation and can't see the typing window anymore.
This is driving me crazy, and worst part - it doesn't always happen! I can't understand in which situation it happens and when it doesn't.
Some more information:
Stock 2.2 firmware and stock messaging application
Using AnySoftKeyboard
Urmm, when writing this message I just noticed that even if I don't type anything, the screen jumps up. meaning I just went into a conversation, put the phone aside to write this message on the forum, and came back finding the screen has jumped up the conversation instead of displaying the typing window.
I was told on another forum that this was discussed on XDA but I can't find anything, any lead would be great. thanks

It would help if you said which stock ROM you are referring to, there are several, depending on your phone sub-model, carrier, region, etc.
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A Sense ROM?... Could be the HTC app... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829535

Ahhhhh I'm having the same problem! The curser jumps around randomly sometimes causing me to type random letters at differnt parts of the text. Drives me crazy!
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ok yeah there's a discussion about this issue in the thread wileykat linked. thanks

From what I understand it has to do with light hitting the trackpad. This happens to me, but only in certain spots in certain rooms.
Like it always happens when I lean back in my chair at my desk, which happens to expose my phone to the ceiling fan. When the light is on is when I get the crazy scrolling which leads me to believe there's some truth in this.
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It's the trackpad. Try typing that same message away from a direct light source. Pretty sure the issue will go away. Annoying

Umm, I don't get why you guys think it's the trackpad that's causing this. cause if you are currently in the writing window of the stock HTC messaging app in landscape and hardware keyboard out, try to use the trackpad to go up/down and it won't actually go up to the conversation. so why would light hitting it do that if it's not a possibility manually?

mine does this as well, i've found one particular spot in my house where it happens. pretty sure it's light hitting the pad at the right (or wrong) angles as well.

ranzz said:
Umm, I don't get why you guys think it's the trackpad that's causing this. cause if you are currently in the writing window of the stock HTC messaging app in landscape and hardware keyboard out, try to use the trackpad to go up/down and it won't actually go up to the conversation. so why would light hitting it do that if it's not a possibility manually?
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I just tried it on my phone in the stock app and the trackpad will scroll up from the text box both in landscape and portrait..
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Cannot see text in landscape

I am very much beginning to love the MT4G. There's one thing that's really bugging me. I've tried numerous keyboards but when I go to type a text or email in landscape, the stupid bar which has three options (Send, Save As, or Discard) block the view of what is being typed.
I cannot type in portrait mode because my fingers are too fat. I want to see what I'm typing. There would be plenty of room to see the text if the aforementioned bar were gone. It's not necessary because on can hit the menu button to get those options.
Is there a way to get rid of the bar so one can see what they are typing? Is there a keyboard which allows one to see what they are doing?
I don't see what you see, but I'm using better keyboard 7.
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You mean in the email client
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Yes, I mean in both the stock email and texting programs. I'm using the Better Keyboard program also. The text space is mostly blocked by the menu bar for Send, Save As, or Discard. This is senseless because all those options and more are one fingerpress away by hitting the menu button. When typing, I can barely see the top of what I'm typing.
This is frustrating because I use my mobile device to answer email from 3 accounts. This is the biggest flaw with this device. The other flaws are the lousy indoor pictures and the screen size. I would have made it at least 4" but would have preferred 4.3".
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Are you rooted so you can use shoot me to take a screen cap? I have no idea what menu you are talking about. If you're rooted are you running a custom ROM?
I've attached a screen cap so you can see what I do on my phone.
Catastrophic, thanks for the post. I'm not rooted. My screen looks just like yours except that I've got a bar with send, save as, and discard covering up the top white portion of the screen where the text you're typing is displayed. There's got to be some setting where that bar can be disabled.
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Sounds Like a glitch to me. THe only thing thats a pain in the ass to me is you cant see the convo window while yoeur typing lol.

How could I disable hardware keyboard while it's open and use software keyboard?

I know some of you might think this is a stupid question. I would like to use any on screen keyboard while the hardware keyboard is open and disable hw kb until I want to use it. Let me see if I can explain this to you why.
I am starting to like typing in landscape mode with on screen keyboard. I am getting pretty good at it and definitely think my speed is faster that way than a hardware keyboard. Have any of you tried typing in landscape for any extended length of time? I don't know about you but my fingers really start cramping and hurting because I have to hold the phone with the rest of my hands and fingers while typing with my thumbs. When the hw kb is open, this could give me more area to hold the phone a little more comfortably while using a fast software keyboard. My thumbs wouldn't be at funky downward angles to hit the keys, they would be extended straighter and upwards and might be less prone to getting crampt up and carpel tunnel.
Am I crazy to think this might be useful? Has anyone heard of it being done or an app or hack that could achieve what I'm trying to do?
I do understand where you are coming from, having big hands and fingers can suck sometimes, but I don't think its possible. I've tried to see if I could pull up the virtual landscape keyboard with the hw one open but no luck.
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Why'd you get the Shift and not the Evo if you would prefer an on-screen keyboard?
cosine83 said:
Why'd you get the Shift and not the Evo if you would prefer an on-screen keyboard?
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I'm not complaining or whining, I'm just asking for help with something that I might like to do.
to answer your question, yes, it is possible.
i just tested this on skyfire, ebuddy, and gmail. if you simply leave the keyboard in, aka don't slide the screen, and rotate the device, the screen will turn and whatever app you are using will also turn (if it supports it). then just click in the text box you want to type in again, and the onscreen keyboard will come up. I'm using better keyboard atm, so didn't test it with the HTC or any others. but i'm fairly positive that if it works with that one, it'll throw up whichever keyboard you are currently using in the same situation.
viperv303 said:
to answer your question, yes, it is possible.
i just tested this on skyfire, ebuddy, and gmail. if you simply leave the keyboard in, aka don't slide the screen, and rotate the device, the screen will turn and whatever app you are using will also turn (if it supports it). then just click in the text box you want to type in again, and the onscreen keyboard will come up. I'm using better keyboard atm, so didn't test it with the HTC or any others. but i'm fairly positive that if it works with that one, it'll throw up whichever keyboard you are currently using in the same situation.
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I think you missed what he was trying to say. he was asking if it's possible to use the on-screen keyboard with the physical keyboard open.
OP, here's an android tip (it works with any android phone): if you hold down the menu button with your cursor in a text field, it forces the on-screen keyboard to come up. You could try selecting a text field, then holding down the menu button.
viperv303 said:
to answer your question, yes, it is possible.
i just tested this on skyfire, ebuddy, and gmail. if you simply leave the keyboard in, aka don't slide the screen, and rotate the device, the screen will turn and whatever app you are using will also turn (if it supports it). then just click in the text box you want to type in again, and the onscreen keyboard will come up. I'm using better keyboard atm, so didn't test it with the HTC or any others. but i'm fairly positive that if it works with that one, it'll throw up whichever keyboard you are currently using in the same situation.
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I know about what you are explaining, that's normal usage. What I'm interested in is using the open physical keyboard as additional area to hold the phone with while in landscape and using the on screen keyboard. I'm thinking there needs to be something to trick the phone into thinking the keyboard drawer is closed when it's actually open.
It seems, as usual, that I am coming up with lame brain ideas and haven't a clue as how to making them happen. I emailed one keyboard dev a few days ago and haven't heard anything back yet. I guess I could shoot out emails to all the devs of the keyboards I have bought and see if I get a response.
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I think you missed what he was trying to say. he was asking if it's possible to use the on-screen keyboard with the physical keyboard open.
OP, here's an android tip (it works with any android phone): if you hold down the menu button with your cursor in a text field, it forces the on-screen keyboard to come up. You could try selecting a text field, then holding down the menu button.
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I just tried that with the drawer open and it is not working. I tried switching to the stock keyboard too and still nothing. Thanks for the suggestion.
herbthehammer said:
I just tried that with the drawer open and it is not working. I tried switching to the stock keyboard too and still nothing. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Same issue here, The flex or ribbon cable from heyboard to PCB is broken, so my device is perm on landscape and I can't use any onscreen keyboards.
wickedpenguin said:
Same issue here, The flex or ribbon cable from heyboard to PCB is broken, so my device is perm on landscape and I can't use any onscreen keyboards.
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Damn dude! That really sucks. You have insurance? Can you take it to a repair center?
wickedpenguin said:
Same issue here, The flex or ribbon cable from heyboard to PCB is broken, so my device is perm on landscape and I can't use any onscreen keyboards.
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correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a 1-year warranty on manufacturing defects, regardless of insurance standing or the 30-day return policy? Certainly sounds like a manufacturing defect to me, unless it's broken from misuse
this isnt the place for talking about warantee issues. start a different thread. this is about answering the question in this thread.
have you tried any other keyboards from the market or like the swype beta or anything? idk if it would make a difference. i doubt you can disable it while its open. if you want to use the soft keyboard close the phone? Its probably best practice to keep the phone closed when you arent using the hardware keyboard anyways?
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this isnt the place for talking about warantee issues. start a different thread. this is about answering the question in this thread.
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and I was pointing out a potential fix for someone with an issue in this thread, try to keep up.
Looks like smart keyboard pro has that feature. Its buried in the advanced menu.
Yes sir it is I just downloaded the trial to give it a shot one thing I notice is when you open the keyboard on the home screen they keyboard pops up over all your icons I'm gonna play with the settings somemore and see what I can do about it
*EDIT* if you are on a text box and hit home the keyboard don't open over home screen but if you just open the phone to put it into landscape on the homescreen they beyboard will pop up just hit the search button then back and you have your whole home screen
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Looks like smart keyboard pro has that feature. Its buried in the advanced menu.
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Screen scrolling while typing with hardware keyboard

Hi all!
I'm starting a new thread about my problem because the two other ones i found did not give me any answer or clue. They are (at least) 2 months old and there's no news about that.
The old threads can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885271
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12798131
I have this problem: When I try to write a text message with the physical keyboard, the screen start to "scroll up" in the conversation after a couple of seconds.
After some tests, here's what I can tell about the problem:
-I use HTC Sense messaging app
-Screens jumps a little bit IF i slide out the keyboard AFTER selecting the contact
-It can't be the trackball to me, (lot of people are saying that it is trackball related) because if you try to "scroll up" or down with the trackball while typing a message, it do not scroll the whole page, but only between your message's lines.
-Sometimes, it scrolls the page up AND unselect the message box, so pressing "delete" will offer you to delete messages (instead of deleting the last character you wrote), and some keys open a new message, etc.
-I tried with "Touch Input" and Swype as the software keyboard and it seems to be unrelated to the software keyboard (I get the problem with both of them)
-It seems to happen to me in EVERY conversation (even conversations with less than 50 messages, contrary to what some peoples says)
-It scroll up in two times, the first time I can see the "send" button a little bit and the second one I can't see the message box anymore. It always jump to the SAME point (with 10 messages or with 200..) the second "jump" occurs 1 second after the first one.
-It is REALLY annoying.
Here's infos on my cellphone:
Bell's HTC Desire Z (canada) with official ROM (not rooted) version 1.84.666.2 (On Android 2.2.1)
I'm using it in French with French Canadian Keyboard.
If someone find a solution (other than switch to another messaging app) i'll be really happy!!
UPDATE: I was having two more software keyboard, "Wifi Keyboard" (installed by Remote Web Desktop) and an unworking Gingerbread keyboard app. (The gingerbread keyboard whas installed a long time after the problem starts), I uninstalled both of them and seems to have no more problems. I'll test some applications and thing and will update this thread once I have a "final answer" on it!
I did a lot if test and it seems that with swype selected, it happens EVERYTIME I slide out the keyboard AFTER selecting a contact or a message.
If swype is not selected, it happens sometimes, but a lot less. Is there a solution to this? I'm not using swype so it do not matter to me, but i would like to fix this annoying bug
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joe540 said:
I did a lot if test and it seems that with swype selected, it happens EVERYTIME I slide out the keyboard AFTER selecting a contact or a message.
If swype is not selected, it happens sometimes, but a lot less. Is there a solution to this? I'm not using swype so it do not matter to me, but i would like to fix this annoying bug
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Yes I know how you feel.
Sadly, the only workaround I've found to minimise the jumps is by going to the list of messages first in landscape mode (keyboard out) before selecting the thread. It's not 100% foolproof but I found it cuts the phenomenon down significantly with my European Desire Z.
I'm hoping the promised upgrade to gingerbread may finally put this one to bed.
Just a quick update: I've uninstalled Swype Beta completely (rather then keeping it installed as an option) as I was hardly using it. Seems to have made a difference to how often the jumping occurs.
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I get this in the messsaging app Only on Sense though....
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i think its an android general issue i remember having the same problem with my xperia x10 and it happened also on an omnia ii i ported eclair to, so yeah...
This is a known issue. It has to do with ambient light hitting the black touchpad. It causes the screen to inadvertantly jump up. I had this problem before. When ever you see it happening just move the touchpad out of the light or cover it with your hand and it should be fine.
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After my 4th g2 and a month with it, it starts happening to me here in the no airport =/
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So what's the REAL solution here? It happens every time for me and it has nothing to do with light...?

[Q] Weird Texting Issue

Has anyone had this issue with your shift? When I am texting out of nowhere my phone stops inputting text and I notice that my screen is at the top of the whole conversation it is really annoying because if there is 200 to 300 texts there i have to scroll all the way to the bottom to continue texting again. Just wondering if anyone else had this problem or not.
Just one more reason I can't wait to get rooted again?
Are you using the swype keyboard as the virtual keyboard by any chance? My shift did this as well and I couldn't find an answer anywhere. By chance I changed the input to the default HTC one and magically my hardware keyboard stopped making the messaging apps from suddenly making the screen go to the top. Hope this helps you!
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Anyone Else Have This Messenger App Issue?

Sometime if I exit the stock sms messaging app while its on a conversation screen with a contact, and then re-enter it (whether it be by turning screen off and on, or jumping to and from another app), the conversation jumps to the first text message I ever sent the contact...in some cases that is days ago. I then have to scroll all the way down to see the new message they sent, or to see the most recent reply.
Did I explain this good? Anyone else have this issue?
I see it as well.
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Happens to me also, if you touch the right side of the chat box you can drag the tab quickly to the last message, it's no fix but it's faster than scrolling.
Yup.. annoys the heck out of me. Almost went with a different messenger, but some of the messages that go out using Voice don't show up in different messengers, but show up in stock.
I too have this issue every once in a while. I can't figure out exactly when it occurs.
Another issue with messaging that I experience is when I am in Conversation mode, and hit the Back button, I am pushed out of the application rather than back to the list of conversations. These functionality issues are annoying but nothing root and stock messaging can't fix.
Weird.. I have not come across this problem yet.
Yea it happens to me too. Not a huge deal but it is pretty annoying.
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ErasedInOneDay said:
I actually sent an email about this back-button issue to LG's R+D team earlier tonight, I'm curious if they actually respond to inquiries...If they would just be more consistent about the top-left corner of the app being a back-button, it would allll be well.
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For a work around, if you just close out the keyboard and then go to enter text again, you are moved to the bottom of the conversation instead of the top.. Annoying.. but faster than scrolling IMHO.
I did not found this issue with my G2 or maybe i didnt reproduce the exact way u do.
But mine always jump to the latest sms
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Yea its not a big deal...but hella annoying.

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