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i love my n1 and would never sell it apart from maybe the rumoured n2 or a very decent android phone....but im really liking the look of the blackberry torch it looks well designed and smart
haha has anyone-else wanted another phone too without wanting to ditch their n1
I listen to the Engadget podcast and they say the torch is really slow and laggy. They were commenting on how the commercials make it look really nice but it's nothing like that.
I personally like the idea of a portrait slider but think the torch looks kinda ridiculous. I like how the pre looks but it's probably too small.
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has anyone-else wanted another phone too without wanting to ditch their n1
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I was tempeted by the dark side / hottie next door... an Hd2. Does pretty much the same thing for me as a Nexus except that Bing Maps Navigation (Microsofts version of free turn by turn directions) sucks compared to Google Maps Navigation. No 3d view, no alternative route options, doesnt mute the music while saying directions and instead talks while music is playing so its hard to hear directions, doesnt say directions if your in another app or if you turn off the screen.
Other than Google Maps Navigation the Hd2 can do everything my Nexus can and actually has two HUGE positives (and one minor one) for me that the Nexus does not:
Major
- Bluetooth keyboard support (HID devices not supported on N1)
- 4.3' crazy good screen
Minor
- 2nd LED for low light situations/better pictures
Hell I still might end up going with my Hd2. Or maybe just keep both? Not really sure yet I love both phones
Only thing I would want is a forward facing camera. Other than that, am sticking to the N 1.
And am definitely sticking to Android. After the Dash, Windows and me have decided to be just friends.
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There is no but...
I can't see how you compare the n1 to the torch. Maybe to the g2 but not the torch. Dual core and upgraded screen is only way I replace my n1. There is not really a good n1 replacement at this moment. Well I guess depends no your taste. There are replacement but people seems to come back to n1.
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hahaha no noooo way im not comparing it to the torch i just think they look quite nicely designed. And there's no way im leaving android, even if someone paid me to haha.
As i said i wouldnt get rid of the n1 apart from a n2, was looking at the desire hd but the lack of a trackball and oled screen put me off. Dev phones are so much better.
The power of these new tegra 2 cpus look ridiculously amazing. with all these rumors flying around i hope its still htc making the n2 not samsung.
I have the N1, iP4 and Torch. N1 is personal, iP4 is the wife's and the Torch is from work.
I want to trade Torch for an iP4 or DHD (well the DHD is a no brainer but not readily available)
The Torch doesn't compete with any of the other 'superphones'.
The balance is wrong when opened (feels like I'll drop it). The UI can't decide if its touch or not touch. The screen is too small. It sucks for apps. The apps it does have are over priced. It doesn't have an open space and dev community like XDA.
It sucks and I'm slowly moving my friends on to pingchat so that the last motivator, BBM can be tossed.
I would maybe let my N1 go for the mytouch 4G. have to wait for some reviews. I don't give so much for the looks. even though the mytouch is not ugly.
I like on the mytouch 4G: faster processor, HSPA+, FFC, slightly bigger screen but not a 4.3 monster. Hopefully a better touch sensor and better antenna. I don't care about OLED or SLCD. Dislike the Espresso UI but probably can live with that.
ever since i got my iPhone4 two weeks ago, my nexus one has been collecting dust. I'll probably sell it soon.
I love my N1. That being said. I'm thinking about the G2, once it's rooted of course. But I'll never get rid of the N1. I'd like to eventually start a collection. I want a G1, my N1, a G2, a Droid, and any other noteworthy android phones that come out in the future.
Two days ago operator made me an offer of any smartphone for free, I narrowed it down to the most expensive hehe: Iphone 4, Desire HD or a sgs and don't know which to buy. This is a once time deal I can't wait for dual cores and whatever else comes out next year I need to reach a decision this week.
What should I buy? I have seen and used all OSs . The only thing I like about the ios is the app store, I generally dislike Apple and Idrones.
I'm relatively tech savvy (in the non-douchy kinda way xD
Except some minor annoyances here and there I love android. Can any one give some advice? Thx and ho ho ho
iPhones kinda nice but not as much for the geek in you.
HD Desire ??
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
Android app store is choke full of goodies and I've found cool stuff my bro can't get on his iphone4
Imo the SGS, the screen is just beautiful and the processor is a monster compared to the Desire HD and iPhone 4 is just not my cup of tea.
SGS will most likely be more optimised after Nexus S is release, I realy think it's already fast and powerfull, and it will only get better!
Camera is amazing and Night mode is franckly pretty amazing, you'd get more than what you can see!
HD Videos is pretty good also!
Sync is all with your GMail account, so pretty simple and straight forward. You can sync your outlook with GMail if needed.
And if you need to access the files on the device, the USB can be mounted so it's pretty fast to transfer things.
Only down I can see on the SGS is the "sometime" flawing GPS, not all the time but can be anoying sometimes :|
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SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
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Say whaat?
I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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The internal SDCards are crapping out...
hmmm isnt that becouse of the ****ty samsung filesystem and/or bad kernel
and should i be concerned about only 339 ram?
Buy the iPhone 4, sell it for $600-$800 off contract, buy whatever phone you want. Personally I'd says Desire HD simply because Sense is much better than Touchwiz and it has the Sense.com features (free remote wipe, GPS tracking, text through phone through website, etc). However, the battery is kind of weak so I'd recommend a bigger one if you can find one.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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They ported it from Nexus One to Evo, and Desire HD is basically a variant of Evo
Damm I'm more confused now than when I started...
Iphone: don't really like how it feels in my hand, really small screen, absolutely no customization whatsoever.
good things: apps, no major bugs and better shades of blue lol.
Desire HD: seems to have the worst hardware out of the three (cpu and gpu) piece if crap battery, seems if it falls once is over, ****ty battery and sim cover and imo the camera that sticks out like the evo is really effing ugly
Good things: most ram out of the three, htcsense.com, biggest screen (preferences but I think 4" is perfect)
SGS: plagued by software bugs apparently, random data corruption, no flash, needs most tweaking out of the box
Good things: best screen cpu & gpu, the nexus s is almost the same phone which means better development porting the works(here's hoping) and best battery life
By comparison seems that the sgs wins overall categories
Its easy. If you want the best smartphone the its sgs.
Iphone is not as good many say.
I did have one and i did sell it.
Iphone has more good games. That's the only good with it.
The rest is much better with sgs.
HD phone is not better either.
It has more serious flaw then both sgs and iphone together.
Sgs is a powerhouse and it got the best screen of all phones.
Sure sgs can be laggy out of the box, but that is easy to fix.
So right now there is not a phone that's has anything to compete with.
The sgs will win it all the time.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**
My father has an iphone3g and my uncle has the iphone 4 I jailbreaked it for him honestly I wasn't that impressed with the phone. The only thing I like about it is the apps mainly the games are much more refined than on android phones
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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It does use a 512MB chip, but only ~340MB of it is visible after you're booted up. Out of the other ~172MB, there's around 40MB that's unaccounted for (we don't know where its being used) and the rest of it is "reserved" (even when the functions it's reserved for are not in use) for stuff like video playback, 3G calling etc.
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I'd have to say i agree with Product F(RED)
Desire HD is the best phone on the list IMHO. But getting the ipoop and selling on will mean you can get the HD desire and still have some cash in your pocket
sgs is the best (imho!) it's a pain out of the box but that's why we love it so much, let's face it, most of us like tweaking and playing with our phones, it's half the fun. Flashing new roms, installing different lagfixes, uninstalling new roms, uninstalling new lagfixes, whoops I've broken it, nope, it's going again. The sgs is a geeks wet dream and in my experience it is very difficult to fully brick.
So if you want a phone that you are going to have to fiddle with, get the sgs. Jpu seems to have ironed out a lot of problems, I get perfect gps now, although it was pretty good before. I'm actually a little disapointed that jpu works so well, it kinda takes the fun out of it all
If this doesn't appeal to you then get the hd, it's a good phone, screen is not as good and it doesn't feel as fast as my tweaked sgs, but overall it's definitely a winner and you won't be disapointed
The iphone is also a good phone and not to be sniffed at, if you don't mind being spoon fed by apple.
i have to say SGS, because of the most powerful hardware, software is not important, because we can fix that easy , as surprise Samsung also tries there best, i think with JPU Firmware they show that they are willing todo everything, Hardware we can't fix, SGS has currently the fastest CPU + GPU specially the GPU!!!!! is amazing, why do you think Google went with Nexus S , because of Hardware, Speed, Quality, Availability.......
Nexus S and Android 2.3 Gingerbread was made to give game developers the best available Hardware and with Gingerbread many things which will make Game development easier and because of the CPU + GPU, which is almost the same as Iphone 4 has (SGS a little bit better), it will also make porting games from iphone to android pretty easy now.
About HTC Sense i agree it is a nice homescreen, but on the other hand it is a memory, cpu and battery monster! why do you think they have 768MB Memory and if we look at different homescreen replacements (ADW, Laucher Pro, Zeam,.......), then i really don't see the big advantage at all, but thats a taste decission
So for me i have to say i am very happy that i went with the SGS, i really can't understand users who say that the SGS is built cheap, i have the SGS now since the beginning, i don't use a screenprotector, the plastic is thin but it still looks like new also after falling on the floor (shame on me), compared to my previous HTC Units which where loosing color on there great metal casing and not by falling on the floor but because i used a leather case, the signal was often a issue for me (metal), dust was behind the screen after a short time,........
I have to say that the Samsung Hardware is such an improvement compared to HTC that i won't anytime soon look back to any HTC unit even if it would have a killler hardware.
But that are just my 2 cents on it
Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Care to elaborate on this? The iphone does have a gorgeous screen, but to call the sgs screen horrible is a bit like saying that Angelina Jolie is a dog. Sure there are better looking girls out there than her, but would you kick her out of bed? Most definitely not, unless you bat for the other team of coursee, in such a case swap angelina for brad or whom ever floats your boat.
(WARNING: This is long.)
My father got word of the Nexus S (he's not much into technology) and wanted one, so I went to Best Buy today to play around with it. I figured I would compare it against my Nexus One with Gingerbread and see how big the difference is.
I wasn't expecting to be blown away by the new Nexus, since it's pretty much a standard Galaxy S device with a few niceties. It was disappointing to find out that it wasn't even convincing me to feel anything.
The Hummingbird CPU on the Nexus S is indeed as fast as it seems, but the experience doesn't feel that much faster than on my Nexus One (especially when using Launcher Pro). I suppose it would be better for Live Wallpapers, but I never caught on to that. I tested a YouTube video both in HD and standard quality, and neither stream played any better on the S though they looked a bit nicer on a bigger screen. It's a definite, hands-down improvement for mobile gaming, though.
The device itself definitely felt as plasticky as the Vibrant, but it's not terrible. However, I prefer the metallic feel of the Nexus One.
The screen is bigger and a bit brighter, but it also has a cooler color temperature, which may contribute to that brightness a bit. Colors from the camera lens seemed less saturated than those on the Nexus One, though they could also be closer to the actual results. I really liked the front-facing camera; I hope video calling takes off soon. (Has FaceTime even been open-sourced yet?)
The S booted up WAY faster than the Nexus One. I did a boot comparison and turned it on about a half-minute later by accident and it still booted before my Nexus One finished.
These differences would be acceptable for an upgrade, but I'm not sure if I'll feel comfortable with losing the microSD slot and trackball. The SD reader can really come in handy, and makes transfers super easy since tons upon tons of phones and laptops have one. (Then again, the Windows Phone 7 team decided to do something similar here as well, so it could be the sign of a trend. I hope not.) Trackball notifications were really, really nifty too, though not as important as the SD reader.
Other than T-Mobile making it unreasonably difficult for me to actually upgrade to the device, the deal-breaker for me was that it didn't seem nearly as innovative as the Nexus One was for me. I could be biased because my first experience on Android was on the G1...and we all know how wonderful that device was. Because of that, hoping onto the Nexus One was like a BIG breath of fresh air and a big reassurance that Android is an exceptional alternative to the iPhone universe. I feel even more so with devices like the G2 (the device I'm set on getting now), Droid X and MT4G, which have been HUGE upgrades from the devices that preceded them. The Nexus S, on the other hand, doesn't even have Wifi Calling (though I guess it'll get it at some point?) or HSPA+. I can't justify spending a small fortune on that.
As for my father, I'm getting him a Nexus One. Coming from an original iPhone, he, and my wallet, will definitely appreciate it.
It wasn't worth it the moment I heard it wouldn't be covered by the phone insurance and no SD card swap. G2 wasn't worth it either in my opinion
Does make you wonder about no ins coverage
I only played with one at Best Buy, but came to many of the OP's conclusions!
No insurance coverage? Wow, that's weird.
Re: boot time, were you comparing a fresh NS against a full-o-****e N1, or was it like for like?
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Re: boot time, were you comparing a fresh NS against a full-o-****e N1, or was it like for like?
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Like for like; N1 is running the Gingerbread ROM that's being developed, which comes with a few apps but nothing heavy. That might have slowed its boot time a bit.
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Re: boot time, were you comparing a fresh NS against a full-o-****e N1, or was it like for like?
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I picked my NS from CPW yesterday and have been comparing it with my soon to be retired N1.
I've got FRG83D on the N1 (completely stock, no apps) and it takes twice as long to boot as the NS... but the NS only feels 'half done '! It's still got the old market, it can't see some apps on the market, and it feels Buggy... guess that's why the N1 doesn't have gingerbread yet... they haven't finished it!
The NS screen is nice but the back button doesn't work half the time! Wifi is more sensitive on theN1, 3g is more reliable on the NS. The NS feels a lot quicker but its hard to tell if its the phone or the OS.
I'm waiting on an official GB update for the N1 before I decide which phone goes on fleabay...
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I picked my NS from CPW yesterday and have been comparing it with my soon to be retired N1.
I've got FRG83D on the N1 (completely stock, no apps) and it takes twice as long to boot as the NS... but the NS only feels 'half done '! It's still got the old market, it can't see some apps on the market, and it feels Buggy... guess that's why the N1 doesn't have gingerbread yet... they haven't finished it!
The NS screen is nice but the back button doesn't work half the time! Wifi is more sensitive on theN1, 3g is more reliable on the NS. The NS feels a lot quicker but its hard to tell if its the phone or the OS.
I'm waiting on an official GB update for the N1 before I decide which phone goes on fleabay...
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Back button is a known issue -try and get a swap from CPWH.
To chip in my experience:
Went from a N1 with MIUI (was in love with the ROM, it's awesome, quick looks amazing etc) to Stock NS.
Have to say, N1 has been sat at home not used since the S arrived. The screen on the S is simply amazing, so responsive to touch looks fantastic. The "proper" multi-touch is great too - especially in google maps.
The S feels nice to hold - especially in landscape. The extra bulges make a big difference, it sits very nicely in the hand.
It feels a little less sturdy that the N1 does, deff lighter and doesn't feel like it'd take well to being dropped.
Still slightly worried about the screen - since no one seems to know how easily it'll scratch yet.
Speed wise, the S is quick. Navigation is about the same as N1 on MIUI (maybe a little slower), apps load wise, everything feels nippier.
The phone does lack a few features, but no doubt these will be added over the coming months - either officially or via the dev community.
It remains to be seen how the dev community will take to the S. Early days show a couple of custom roms, kernel and recovery and a few of the "bigger" names starting to work on the phone....
Is the S worth the upgrade - it depends. The overall experience IMO is better than the N1. It seems (so far) easier to get along with out. There's a few features missing - if these are must have's then the S isn't for you.
Go and have a play with one if you can.
FWIW - my fiancée is IN LOVE with the S. She normally hates smartphones, but this seems to be an exception...
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I just came back from Best Buy returning my Nexus S.
Yeah the touch screen had a little more snappy response
and the gpu makes it a little faster than my Nexus One
but the phone is not worth wasting a two year contract
on. Its just not much of an upgrade over the N1.
The lack of any way to move the curser was the last straw.
No track pad or track ball, no NS for me.
I did side by side tests clicking each app simultaneously and both my nexus one and the S loaded identical speeds for most everything.
I was however impressed with the quality and feel of the build of the nexus s. Much more solid and high end feeling than I thought it would be.
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I did side by side tests clicking each app simultaneously and both my nexus one and the S loaded identical speeds for most everything.
I was however impressed with the quality and feel of the build of the nexus s. Much more solid and high end feeling than I thought it would be.
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I just got a Nexus One (traded a old netbook for it ) but had a EVO for a while now. Friend I traded with got a Nexus S so I got to play with both a lot. The bottom line is that most apps are pretty simple and would probably run fine on a 400 MHz CPU, but the apps that don't (Google Earth, Maps in 3D view, 3D gallery app, Games, etc) usually require a decent GPU to run 100% smooth, and it becomes obvious that the Adreno 200 can't keep up. It may run decently (20-30 FPS) but once you put the N1 or EVO side by side to the NS you can see that the apps are buttery smooth on second gen hardware.
It also pisses me off that I can't run a LW paper without causing the home screen to lag under 20 FPS while doing certain actions - especially the Microbes wallpaper which looks cool as hell IMO.
I say I will upgrade to watever phone Cyanogen upgrades too... and thats just being real honest loool.
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usually require a decent GPU to run 100% smooth, and it becomes obvious that the Adreno 200 can't keep up. It may run decently (20-30 FPS) but once you put the N1 or EVO side by side to the NS you can see that the apps are buttery smooth on second gen hardware.
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It is not necessary the Ardeno200 to blame. Gingerbread has got a much better 3D stack they bought from outside, while the N1 and Evo are still using the old one. Currently it is not clear where the NS performance advantage is coming from.
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It is not necessary the Ardeno200 to blame. Gingerbread has got a much better 3D stack they bought from outside, while the N1 and Evo are still using the old one. Currently it is not clear where the NS performance advantage is coming from.
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You can replace the Nexus S with a SGS running 2.1 and you'll see the same results. Its the GPU, we all know it's that. If it wasn't for that weakness, the Nexus One would still be as speedy as the newer phones.
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You can replace the Nexus S with a SGS running 2.1 and you'll see the same results. Its the GPU, we all know it's that. If it wasn't for that weakness, the Nexus One would still be as speedy as the newer phones.
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Are you sure? As far as I can tell, the SGS UI is not significantly "smoother" than nexus one.
On the other hand, everyone drools how buttery smooth the WP7 devices are, and almost all of them are using Adreno200. And they even consider some "serious" 3D gaming with XBL.
Does anyone have any infos in regards to battery life on the NS? What is the battery life on the Nexus S? I think comparing battery life with the Nexus One is useless for now, since both devices are not running 2.3 yet!
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Are you sure? As far as I can tell, the SGS UI is not significantly "smoother" than nexus one.
On the other hand, everyone drools how buttery smooth the WP7 devices are, and almost all of them are using Adreno200. And they even consider some "serious" 3D gaming with XBL.
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Yeah, I'm sure, seen it with my own eyes. The SGS suffers from weird lag to due the file system but with it fixed it runs fine, and even without it fixed it still runs smoother in things that rely on the GPU (those things I mentioned). But like I said, weird issues (like the file system lag) aside, running through a list shouldn't require a lot of power; it's when you hit apps that do need the power that you realize the difference.
...and about WP7, I agree. But this isn't WP7, and everything Google has shown so far isn't as optimized. The Adreno 200 will always be weak compared to every other high end GPU but I hope that Honeycomb w/ full HW acceleration (if it even supports the Adreno 200) can at least bring some life to it like WP7 has.
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Yeah, I'm sure, seen it with my own eyes. The SGS suffers from weird lag to due the file system but with it fixed it runs fine, and even without it fixed it still runs smoother in things that rely on the GPU (those things I mentioned). But like I said, weird issues (like the file system lag) aside, running through a list shouldn't require a lot of power; it's when you hit apps that do need the power that you realize the difference.
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Comparing stock for stock, when I scroll a list I can hit 100% CPU utilization on a N1, and ~84% with NS.
My first impressions are kind of lackluster. Now I should start by saying I was never interested in the docking potential of this phone. Now with that said so far it's obviously faster than my Nexus One which is good. The fact that it can be rooted is good too because I can run my TiBu for my apps. The bigger storage is also a definite plus for me that way I am not shuttling apps off to the SD card because I am low on space.
What is really throwing me off is the fact that it has 1 GB of RAM which seems to only have 800 available and then after all the apps around 500 on a reboot. I am really hoping the devs can come up with a way to fix that aspect because as I originally stated I am not interested in docking this phone and the assumption is that 200 MB is reserved for the Webtop. Secondly I know I am not going to see 4G speeds out of this phone for a long time given my area. I was however hoping to see a little bit more speed out of it versus my Nexus One. Third the power button takes a lot of getting used to on it. Finally the battery in increments of 10% I am really hoping this can be fixed somehow because that's a wicked pain.
Overall I am happy with the phone and I am cheering on the dev community to hopefully be able to do something with my gripes that I have with it.
Go nexus s man if you want a great screen gingerbread and icecream first #Just saying
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Go nexus s man if you want a great screen gingerbread and icecream first #Just saying
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Nexus S? Is that the phone with only 512MB of RAM and no 720p video recording? What size microSD card does it support? Ohhhh, that's right, it doesn't. Well at least it has NFC, because some time in the next 10 years that might actually be a useful feature!
P.S. Sorry, I don't even have an Atrix. I just like throwing crumbs to trolls!
Up to 50 meg or so is ramdisk too.
On the captivate, with 512 meg of ram, the most usable we could get was around 374 I think. This is about 73% of ram.
If we take this ratio to the Atrix, it's actually about 5% higher than that.
Nexus S
Nexus S does get the newer software and might look a little more flashy but if your into flashy things then go for it.. but the Atrix has a better RES screen, more RAM, better CPU.. Got my Atrix yesterday and must say that I am happy that I got it. There are some things here and there that could be fixed but its the phone's 2nd day in the real world so that is to be expected.
Went from an Iphone 4 to the Atrix 4g. Screen is definitely a little disappointing in comparison, but its really not that bad. Keeping the brightness below 50%ish definitely helps a lot, at 80-100% the screen looks washed out and grainy.
On the RAM issue, can froyo address 1gb of ram?
My wife just got this phone today. I have a captivate and I think this thing handles nicely!
My previous phones have been all the iPhones as well as the Nexus One, The Droid X.
DISLIKES
Weight:
Too light. Feels cheap when you don't have weight to it. It has a little weight but compared to the iPhone, it is very light. I thought it was a guy-thing but even too light for my wife
Material:
Motorola should have used the same material as the Droid X. Nice rubberized exterior that eliminates the need for a case and does not slip. I have large hands and cannot wait to get a silicon cover. The phone constantly slips out of my hand. Have to admit the iPhone 4 is really bad too, without a case.
Photos/Video:
Horrible video and photos. I know the iPhone 4 is, and still is, superior in this field but if I remember correctly, the Droid X had some decent photo quality. Although the video is smoother than the Droid X. The photos/videos are washed out and grainy. Looks like I filmed it using a PlaySkool camera. Definitely will not be hearing of anyone saying, "I filmed this music video using my Atrix!"
Laptop Dock:
Did not order this. Until Moto comes up with an update that makes it more useful or I find a great use for it, I will not be purchasing one. Why didn't they just have it attach to the Xoom or something? That would have been great. Imagine a gutted Xoom that you would pop in your Atrix and it BECOME the tablet. Uses your Atrix 4G service and 'dock' expands the phone with additional ports. Maybe an idea with Ice Cream coming out.
LIKES
Body:
Like the shape and overall feel of the phone. Feels good to have the touch buttons rather than the physical buttons on the Droid X. Would be nice to have a camera button. Overall, has the same look and presence as the iPhone out of the corner of your eye. Closer to the 3GS version (which I prefer over the iPhone 4 form factor) even though it has a larger screen. Everything is nice and uniform. Would love to have the new form factors Samsung has been coming out with but this is doable.
Fingerprint Wake:
Great way to keep it secure without someone looking at the prints on your screen. There is also an alternative passcode in case you need someone else to wake your phone. The location and having to push and swipe at the same time makes it difficult. Not too bad but not easy either.
Front-facing Camera:
Nice feature to have even though I will rarely use it. Maybe when Skype adds video chat. Was not able to set Fring to use the front camera. I'm open for recommendations. But even if I do find something that works, can't see myself doing video chat.
Sound:
Heard some bad things about the speaker but don't think its too bad. Sounds great. Music and calls sound a lot clearer than the iPhone 4. Very similar to the quality of the Droid X.
HDMI:
The best part is when you plug it into the TV with the included HDMI. Has an awesome interface to play your music, photos, and videos. Then you can really see the poor quality of the photos and video, Lol.
Docks:
Although not thrilled with the laptop dock, love docks in general. The Multimedia dock looks cool. Great way to potentially be an Apple TV replacement. Vehicle dock looks like the one I had for the Droid X which is nice. It is great to have the wide range of accessories. One reason the iPhone does so well.
MotoBLUR:
A lot of haters out there on this one but not too bad, I can definitely live with it if Motorola keeps the Android OS updated. I prefer it over Samsung's mutated iPhone look. Nice button graphics and widgets on MotoBLUR. I do wish I could remove the preinstalled apps like Vlingo and Blockbuster. I do agree, it would be great if we had an option to use it or not.
you can't really compare Nexus S and Atrix until the S becomes available on AT&T 3G bands, unless you want Edge only data. I think the Atrix is terrific. You have to realize that the S would cost a lot unsubsidized as well.
You can easily remove all the bloat apps like Blockbuster and etc.. Just goto Applications and they are in the remove list.. I have already removed them all from mine
Thanks. Ok, Blockbuster could be removed but could not find a way to remove Vlingo.
Hello everyone. I recently got tired bit of HD2 and would like to get a new phone. Nexus one and moto defy are in my price range. What are your thoughts on N1? Is battery life good? What about screen, is it of nice quality?
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You're better off getting something newer.
Unfortunately there are no better phones for $270, off contract, that will work on t-mobile USA network
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I think you've answered your own question then?
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I think you've answered your own question then?
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Hm, but both, defy and N1, cost ~$270 new in box.
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Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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Well I should have started with what I expect from it. I do a lot of browsing, reading, and most important - watching videos via flash player and Skyfire. I do gaming, some MMO and strategy/building.
What do you mean by fuzzyness?
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N1 is a great phone, and has a lot of life left. Have you thought about a g2x? Its a new phone but there are quite a few for sale, and fairly cheaply. Its got a great screen IMHO and would be better suited for gaming and video watching.
But after 18 months I'm still on my nexus one and its as able as ever.
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I'm also trying to decide between these two phones, I want to buy one used and cheap. Please tell your opinions about both.
I don't like motorola because of locked bootloaders. Now it is possible to install roms but it may be tricky. I would like run ubuntu or backtrack ok the phone, so I guess I should choose nexus. However, what are the things you don't like in a nexus one? Is it not multi touch? does it have 3d chip? Is it so bad for games? Any other issues
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N1 is a great phone, and has a lot of life left. Have you thought about a g2x? Its a new phone but there are quite a few for sale, and fairly cheaply. Its got a great screen IMHO and would be better suited for gaming and video watching.
But after 18 months I'm still on my nexus one and its as able as ever.
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g2x seems to have dozens of issues. Starting from random reboots, all the way to loss of signal. I was thinking of it too, but I somehow do not trust LG brand that much
the defy is more of a mid range phone while the n1 is/was high end.
the processor on the defy is quite slow and you will notice a speed difference.
the n1 screen is also a lot nicer due to higher res and amoled as well as actual size.
is performance doesn't matter too much then the choice is more about size, do you prefer a larger screen or smaller phone..?
I sold my brand new mytouch 4g on ebay for the going rate of around $280.
Not a horrible phone in terms of speed. T-mobile too.
N1 is prettier tho.
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g2x seems to have dozens of issues. Starting from random reboots, all the way to loss of signal. I was thinking of it too, but I somehow do not trust LG brand that much
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I have a g2x (about to sell), got a cheap upgrade and my phone was totally free of problems. CM7 is now running pretty smooth on it, making it a great phone in my opinion. I ended up reverting back to my N1 because I like the form factor, the g2x just a little too big. I'm now banking on the next Nexus, really hoping that they put a 4" screen (which I really enjoyed on my g2x) in a smaller build.
That said, the N1 is rock solid. Its a known quantity, the issues are negligible, and there has been a ton of development contributing to a great little machine. CM7 on it is just fantastic and only getting better, making N1, 18 months since its introduction, a better and better phone (my battery life with the latest CM nightlies is best its ever been).
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the defy is more of a mid range phone while the n1 is/was high end.
the processor on the defy is quite slow and you will notice a speed difference.
the n1 screen is also a lot nicer due to higher res and amoled as well as actual size.
is performance doesn't matter too much then the choice is more about size, do you prefer a larger screen or smaller phone..?
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I believe they both have 3.7 displays. What about Adreno 200 GPU? I believe I have the same CPU and GPU on my HTC HD2, but you know, this phone is not native to android OS, so would Nexus One's performance be better than one of HTC HD2?
danger-rat said something related to the fuzziness of the screen. Can someone please explain that to me. I have never held Nexus One in my hands.
Personally, I'd go with the N1, but it depends on what your intentions are (my criteria relies on dev support, etc).
I feel that the battery use is heavy, but I can't compare to the defy. I think the screen display is great, and while you can complain about fuzzyness, or whatever from the pentile I still think it's more than adequate (though it struggles in sunlight). The multi touch issue may be a problem if you want to game etc, but I don't game and never have a problem with the digitizer.
Each phone has it's own problems, as does the N1. It's just a matter of matching your needs to the right phone...
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AntonJart said:
danger-rat said something related to the fuzziness of the screen. Can someone please explain that to me. I have never held Nexus One in my hands.
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Some say the pentile layout used in AMOLED in N1 causes the text not sharp enough. I guess it is what fuzziness means.
But personally I can't really tell the difference. Plus, you may try to find a 2nd hand SLCD N1 instead of AMOLED one.
AMOLED seems a bit too saturated for me, while some of my friends praise it... picking SLCD or AMOLED will be your own personal choice
One thing for certain is that the MT on N1 is far from perfect, and it is a hardware issue, there is no solution (and never will be) to the crappy MT performance on N1.
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Thanks for the reply
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One thing for certain is that the MT on N1 is far from perfect, and it is a hardware issue, there is no solution (and never will be) to the crappy MT performance on N1.
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I just saw that on youtube. It is not good, unfortunately
I bought an N1 when It came out and loved it. Over time the little issues the N1 had started to annoy me. So I bought an HD2 and put android on it. To me HD2>N1
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I bought an N1 when It came out and loved it. Over time the little issues the N1 had started to annoy me. So I bought an HD2 and put android on it. To me HD2>N1
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I have HD2 now. I am tired of battery life now. It gets top 4-5 hours while playing. I had to carry portable charger at work)
Well Anton
I have an N1 and i have to say it is really the best phone i have ever held...
But it is not perfect, it has a few problems which depending on you, may be a deal breaker:
1- Internal memory is only 512mb, out of which, only 192 mb is dedicated for apps... which leaves you with next to nothing ... of course this is all solved with apps 2sd, darktremor or other solutions, they remain in the end, a work around... So it is not as good as having a good internal memory storage.
2- is the lack of front camera, which for me, makes the phone lacking in terms of future growth, especially when all handhelds get video calling apps like tango or skype, and you would be stuck behind the curve.
N1 vs defy:
My friend just got a defy, it has a smaller screen than the N1 and a lower processor speed than the N1, but it comes with water resistant and shock resistant features which are a bonus.
In the end its up to u... and what you like.
For me, I love the N1's community support, the HUGE list of custom roms and modifications, and the amazing trackball and the trackball LED notifications. As well as its cool looks and the fact that it kinda still is Google's flagship phone and an amazingly sturdy and cool phone... I love it!
Edit: oh and as for battery life, I am getting much better performance on CM7.1 RC1 than i used to get when it was froyo, I usually get 1.5 days with average use and smart usage (wifi/bluetooth/3g off unless i need them and screen brightness on auto)