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N1 on ATT?

I am thinking about getting the N1 and using it on att. I am bored with all of the phones they have out right now. I just have a couple questions....
How slow are the edge data speeds? Im on a BB Bold 9700 and I am pretty aggravated with the 3g speeds on that thing.
And second can you talk and surf the web at the same time on edge? I have heard people saying that if there is an active data session then the calls will go straight to v-mail? Is this true?
Thanks a ton

I surf the web all day on AT&T/EDGE with my Nexus One, and its a little pokey, but I feel the browsing experience is so sweet, thats its still worth owning.
Even at home, where I have wifi, I'm rarely pushed to enabling it. Usually when I have to do a large download.
No surfing & talking at the same time, you need 3g for that. I don't really miss it, but its one of those things that could come in handy.
When an AT&T Nexus or better comes out, I'll get that and pawn off my N1 to my wife as she doesn't surf the net.

thanks for your insight. Have you had any problems while surfing the web phone calls being pushed right to voicemail?

I was getting 175 kbps on At&t. not horrible since my friend was getting about 300 kbps on his Bold right next to me on 3g. I decided to just switch to tmobile since I wasn't using 3g, tmo. has better rates. hopefully they will be getting 3g in my area soon.

Don't know if any of you saw this but I wouldn't buy an N1 yet if you want to use AT&T. If I wasn't stuck in the T-Mobile contract I'd try and sell my T-Mobile N1 when this comes out.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-10444986-266.html

I wonder though, will this device work on both AT&T and T-Mobile at 3G?
Oh, and Heya Crayon! Nice to see you over here too!

dumbestcrayon said:
Don't know if any of you saw this but I wouldn't buy an N1 yet if you want to use AT&T. If I wasn't stuck in the T-Mobile contract I'd try and sell my T-Mobile N1 when this comes out.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-10444986-266.html
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Yea I have seen that but I have a feeling that will not be out for another six months or so.

just be warned, myself and others have been forced onto $30 data plans with the n1. so id wait for the 3G version at least so you are getting your money's worth.

MENDEH said:
just be warned, myself and others have been forced onto $30 data plans with the n1. so id wait for the 3G version at least so you are getting your money's worth.
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Well that is a no brainer... why would you want it without data anyway?

roush611 said:
Well that is a no brainer... why would you want it without data anyway?
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you wouldnt. i used to have a $10 unlimited medianet data plan until at&t switched me to the $30 plan.

I was forced into a $30 plan also, when I already had a $15 unlimited data plan with AT&T.
Try logging onto your wireless account and going to "manage features". Remove the $30 smartphone plan they've tacked onto your bill, and re-select your old medianet plan (I'm not sure it'll show up for you, but my $15 unlimited plan was still there)
This has worked for me for about a week and a half.

It looks like AT&T is getting the Desire and N1 http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/02/23/att-picking-up-htc-desire-sprint-grabbing-htc-hero2/
AT&T 3G Network also got a good write up in a PC World Report
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1895...rlds_second_3g_wireless_performance_test.html

Cannot wait for a sim card version of the Nexus One that works on more than one carrier in Canada.

[Q] HD2 USA and AT&T

Hey I'm gonna buy a tmobile HD2 from a friend of mine and I want to know if it can be use with AT&T.
Also do I haave to get a data plan with this phone?

Yes it can be used with AT&T but you will not get 3G speeds due to the specific bands the phone has.
I have an international HD2 and am using it on AT&T without data plan because AT&T does not have the IMEI for my phone in their database and thus cannot automatically add the smartphone plan. I'm not sure if they have the T-Mobile HD2 IMEIs.

I too have an international HD2 and am runing it on AT&T. You can't use the T-Mobile US one - the bandwidth doesn't work on AT&T only an international version will work.

I was going to say the same thing they said

You can use an Australian HD2 with AT&T and get 3G speeds. Mine works just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633404

I am running an unlocked TmoUSA HD2 on AT&T and it works just fine. Other than the fact that I have no 3G with this on the AT&T network. I am very happy with the performance since I live in an area with no 3G coverage at all. I have to drive 15 miles to get into 3G coverage area.
Yeah Baaaby AT&T .... not!!
When in the hell is AT&T going to take expanding their 3G coverage areas seriously? I wonder what it feels like to be the AOL of the cellular world, all those customers and so little speed. This really sucks bigtime!
HTR

omershahab said:
Yes it can be used with AT&T but you will not get 3G speeds due to the specific bands the phone has.
I have an international HD2 and am using it on AT&T without data plan because AT&T does not have the IMEI for my phone in their database and thus cannot automatically add the smartphone plan. I'm not sure if they have the T-Mobile HD2 IMEIs.
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Do not put your AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile HD2. They will automatically "upgrade" your account to $30/month blackberry data. I had a $10/month unlimited that disappeared and I can't get it back now.

OCedHrt said:
Do not put your AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile HD2. They will automatically "upgrade" your account to $30/month blackberry data. I had a $10/month unlimited that disappeared and I can't get it back now.
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That is not true.
I've been using my HD2 on ATT for 2 months now and my plan has not changed at all.

sorry I didnt explain well. Im gonna buy an HD2 tmobile phone which is lock to only tmobile I think is there a way I can unlock it to use with ATT I dont wanna have a data plan I dont wanna have internet.

eddym123 said:
sorry I didnt explain well. Im gonna buy an HD2 tmobile phone which is lock to only tmobile I think is there a way I can unlock it to use with ATT I dont wanna have a data plan I dont wanna have internet.
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Yes there is a way to unlock it.

eddym123 said:
sorry I didnt explain well. Im gonna buy an HD2 tmobile phone which is lock to only tmobile I think is there a way I can unlock it to use with ATT I dont wanna have a data plan I dont wanna have internet.
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I used a T-Mobile HD2 for 5 months on AT&T without any problems except for no 3G. I used the $10mo data plan and still am. I now use a Telstra HD2 and enjoy full 3G coverage on AT&T. Both HD2's are unlocked and yes, the AT&T sim works fine. Just don't walk in to their store and expect them not to hammer you with the $30 data plan.
There's a real nice fellow from Australia that sold me my 2 HD2's. Very honest and reasonable. If you want his eBay ID, anyone can PM me and I will forward it. Beware of other internet store sellers! Some are selling the same phones for $100+ more and some people have been either screwed out of their money or have gotten refurb/used phones. Honesty is in short supply these days so be careful.

I unlock it... Just call T-mobile and ask for the pin that was yesterday and today got it by email.
Now the phone is for my girlfriend and I she doesn't have any data plan and she doesn't want any....Can this be done? have the phone without any data plan on AT&T?

eddym123 said:
I unlock it... Just call T-mobile and ask for the pin that was yesterday and today got it by email.
Now the phone is for my girlfriend and I she doesn't have any data plan and she doesn't want any....Can this be done? have the phone without any data plan on AT&T?
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if they happen to add it on there (by doing a maintenance sweep daily), give them a call and demand that they put DATA OPT-OUT on that line.

Thanks ill call before putting the don card in....I thought that it was mandatory with the phone.
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eddym123 said:
Thanks ill call before putting the don card in....I thought that it was mandatory with the phone.
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It IS mandatory, that applies to ANY smartphone. Whatever you do, DO NOT tell them you are using any smartphones. iPhones are all in their database since they were the exclusive dealers for them so it's impossible (as far as I know) to use an iPhone on AT&T without them nailing you for a $30 data plan since all the IMEI's are pre-loaded in AT&T's system. At least with the HD2's and other non-AT&T branded smartphones, they don't have the IMEI's and can't just hit you with the data plan.
It's in their contract, any smartphone use requires a data plan. Of course, they also hit you for a tethering fee as well for the privilege of using tethering (computer to smartphone connection) even though there's nothing special about it nor does it use the data service any differently. Just another way for AT&T to stick it to the consumer.

Android + Web2Go Speeds

I am on T-mobile USA. I use a UK HD2. Therefore, I do not have 3G frequencies. I am on Web2Go (unlimited Data), however, my speeds are limited to 2G edge. It's painfully slow.
Is data speeds a cause by Android or my carrier's speeds?
Can Web2Go be any faster if, say, I had a US HD2 (assuming t-mobile doesn't know I have a smartphone under Web2Go)??? What speeds will I be surfing the web? 3G 4G?
Thanks!

Your post confuses me, but I think this may be the answer you're looking for.
Edge (which is actually 2.5G) has a max download limit of about 25kB/s, that's a technical limitation and cannot be bypassed. Android has got nothing to do with this. You also can't softmod your phone to receive TMO's 3G frequencies, if you really want it you're gonna need a TMO supported HD2. 4G is out of question, but I've heard their 3G network is pretty damn quick. (Couple of megabits/sec download, should suffice methinks!)

StephanV said:
Your post confuses me, but I think this may be the answer you're looking for.
Edge (which is actually 2.5G) has a max download limit of about 25kB/s, that's a technical limitation and cannot be bypassed. Android has got nothing to do with this. You also can't softmod your phone to receive TMO's 3G frequencies, if you really want it you're gonna need a TMO supported HD2. 4G is out of question, but I've heard their 3G network is pretty damn quick. (Couple of megabits/sec download, should suffice methinks!)
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thank you. that was informative.
But my question is if my HD2 was able to pick up 3G or 4G (hspa+), will my download speeds be limited to my phone's frequencies or limited to the data plan I have, which is the $9.99 Web2Go?

it is a hardware limitation. your UK hd2 does not support t-mobile's 3G bands. therefore, you will not get 3G speeds from t-mobile.
t-mobile does not implement a speed limit on their data plans; their grandfathered plans ranging from $3 data plans go just as fast as the current $30 data plans.*

I have a T-MOUS branded HD2 with the $10 web2go plan, using internet2.voicestream.com APN. I cannot get T-Mob's HSPDA+ (4G) because it's hardware limitation, I believe only the G2 and Mytouch 4G are capable of HSPDA+ on T-Mobile.
My HD2 with Android gets HSPDA (3.5G) just fine. The speeds vary tremendously depending on my location. There's one particular spot in my town where I ran a several speedtests and consistently got 3.2 Mbps download and 1.5 Mbps upload. But for most locations, I get only around 1.2Mbps download and 1.4Mbps upload. And inside my house, where's mainly a deadzone for data, I only get Edge which is around 200Kbps download and 350Kbps upload.

My HD2 is the same way. I used to get 3Mbps, but one day I lost 3G for a day, the next day it came on and was slow. I would get 0.43Mbps on speed test. It would never go above 1Mbps, unless I go 3 blocks away from my home, I would get up to 5Mbps. Back at my house it would go back to 0.06Mbps-1Mbps. This has been happening for ever since OCT 26 2010.
From OCT 26 to now I have been using Tmobile Data as my ISP. Thought since they have a very fast network that can go up to 21Mbps and only at $25 I will go and get the USB PC stick, but from what has been happening I decided to remove the data plan from my phone because it was worthless and too slow to even watch videos. They have told me that their are issues in some states were you may not even get any data or voice. But its taking them too long to fix. I'm gonna wait about 2 months before I go back, hopefully they have the issue resolved.

nexus14 said:
it is a hardware limitation. your UK hd2 does not support t-mobile's 3G bands. therefore, you will not get 3G speeds from t-mobile.
t-mobile does not implement a speed limit on their data plans; their grandfathered plans ranging from $3 data plans go just as fast as the current $30 data plans.*
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OMG! really?
So I can get 4G speeds with the G2 on the grandfather $5.99 Web2Go Plan?
What is stopping me from getting a G2 off contract and popping my SIM (which currently have Web2Go) into the phone?

lemonspeakers said:
What is stopping me from getting a G2 off contract and popping my SIM (which currently have Web2Go) into the phone?
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Buying the G2 off contract, probably?
In all honesty, I think this 4G is way overrated. HSPA supports up to 14mbps, that's almost 2 megabytes per second. That's about the max speed I get with my broadband connection at home.
I can't even tell the difference between surfing on WiFi or 3G, because the browser is obviously the bottleneck which slows things down.

lemonspeakers said:
OMG! really?
So I can get 4G speeds with the G2 on the grandfather $5.99 Web2Go Plan?
What is stopping me from getting a G2 off contract and popping my SIM (which currently have Web2Go) into the phone?
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All of T-Mob's Android phones are locked by IMEI, so I don't think your data plan will not work. When you try to use data, it'll say you have to upgrade your data plan.

raysacr said:
All of T-Mob's Android phones are locked by IMEI, so I don't think your data plan will not work. When you try to use data, it'll say you have to upgrade your data plan.
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Oh really? Then what phones CAN use t-mobile's 4G in america?

lemonspeakers said:
Oh really? Then what phones CAN use t-mobile's 4G in america?
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T-Mob G2 or MyTouch 4G. But when you get those phones, you have to upgrade your data plan. I don't think your $6 tzone will work with those phones.

this question may come across a bit noobish but I'm using the UK HD2 on Tmob UK and getting 3G speeds so I'm unable to understand what you mean by it's a hardware limitation of the HD2 UK to get 3G speeds. Unless Tmob US works differently?

Conflikt Icey said:
this question may come across a bit noobish but I'm using the UK HD2 on Tmob UK and getting 3G speeds so I'm unable to understand what you mean by it's a hardware limitation of the HD2 UK to get 3G speeds. Unless Tmob US works differently?
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Uhu, tmous has its own 3g frequency (frequencies actually).

AT&T Data Question

Im Thinking of buying one off of ebay and was wondering if i unlock it, since the phone is meant for T-Mobiles "4g" will i my Data work and get 3g, and when AT&T gets 4g will it work for the device?

ShadowLegion said:
Im Thinking of buying one off of ebay and was wondering if i unlock it, since the phone is meant for T-Mobiles "4g" will i my Data work and get 3g, and when AT&T gets 4g will it work for the device?
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Once you unlock it for AT&T it will only function on EDGE, correct me if I'm wrong, not too sure if this phone is compatible with AT&T 3G network....most likely it will not.
Sent from my HTC Glacier

ghost_231 said:
Once you unlock it for AT&T it will only function on EDGE, correct me if I'm wrong, not too sure if this phone is compatible with AT&T 3G network....most likely it will not.
Sent from my HTC Glacier
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oh.. do you know if the G2 or MyTouch 3g Slide is the same

Is the same for all t-mo phones. The Frequencies used by at&t and t-mobile for 3g are different. The most you will get is EDGE, and we all know that EDGE SUCKS

No 3g wont work. only 2g/edge will work as att and Tmobile have different data radios. If you have the old dataplan for att and don't want to pay 15 for 200mbs get a vibrant. If your lucky it'll pick up the 850mhz 3g band to get 3g for at&t. And you'll keep the old data plan because att wont pickup the imei of the vibrant.
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Alex530 said:
No 3g wont work. only 2g/edge will work as att and Tmobile have different data radios. If you have the old dataplan for att and don't want to pay 15 for 200mbs get a vibrant. If your lucky it'll pick up the 850mhz 3g band to get 3g for at&t. And you'll keep the old data plan because att wont pickup the imei of the vibrant.
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alright thanks. I had the old Unlimited Data Plan but it changed me to the new 2GB Plan when i Upgraded Last Week but when i get the phone im gonna call them so they can switch it back. Even if i sell it or not

Changing carriers

Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.

Sprint is your only option for unlimited data. They don't have HSPA, but are substantially cheaper than Verizon.

I just switched from Verizon to ATT yesterday coming from Unlimited as well.
I switched mainly because of the lack of service in my area of work and lack of availability of phones. Does going from Unlimited to 5Ggb suck, yes, but I also have service where I work and will be able to get the beloved HTC One. I'll just need to keep an eye on my usage from now on.
I pay $10 for every GB I go over which doesn't sound too bad to me.

jammicphi said:
Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.

I'm joining my fiance's AT&T plan here in NY, there data for two lines isn't horrible. $150 for Unlimited Talk/Text and 4GB shared data for $150 for a few business/pleasure phones isn't too bad, she's paying $100 a month for her non-smartphone though, ****ing crazy!

Witek_M said:
Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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you order the HTC One on locked can you provide link plz, and i did not even think about staright talk that looks really promising same network as AT&T unlimited calls and text plus data unlimited? now im sure they throttle usage over a certain amount just not sure what that amount of data would be.

Witek_M said:
Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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Marcismo55 said:
The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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You order a sim card from straight Talks website
Straight Talk uses Verizon towers where I live, my wife too uses it with her gnex
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ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.

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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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It does but HTC One 801e I have ordered does not have frequencies that are needed with T-Mobile.

jammicphi said:
ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.

blane237 said:
What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs

jammicphi said:
Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
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Then I say Sprint. They are about 90% done with their Network Vision upgrade in Chicago.
You can visit Sensorly.com so that you can see how their LTE coverage is in your area.