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No recovery mode/Phone with Explanation mark

Ok, I have been thrown for a loop and need some help....
I had a Sprint Hero Rooted on 2.1 the .5 sprint update
Tried to run the new update but it kept getting corrupt.
Did a Nandroid backup
So I reverted back to the .5 RUU
Then it wanted me to update to the old .6 update, so I did
Hoping then I would upgrade to the new .6 but it was not able to find a new update?
Wanted to restore my nandroid update.
When I try to boot into the recovery mode I get a picture of a phone with a red Explanation mark in a triangle.
There is a bunch of people on the net that say they have seen or gotten it, but no one says how to get rid of it? So I can not get in to recovery mode at all.
Tried the home+power boot
Tried the volume down + power then home
always ends in the same screen with no recovery.
Tried multiple times to install the .5 RUU
Reset phone
never can get back there to the recovery?
Phone will boot fine into 2.1 and run fine..
Anyone have any ideas, I have tried everything I can think of.
Thanks

Did u try placing the recovery on ur SD card and flashing it threw terminal on ur phone
Root-Hack-Mod-Always™

You lost root, as far as I remember the .6 update was to block the corrent rooting efforts that you see around here, thats why the rooting instruction say to go back to the .5 ruu.
The corrupted update your getting is just sprints server being bogged down.
What you need todo is go back and re-root your phone. Dont worry about the update untill it gets released into one of the current roms or until you here that its safe todo without losing root.

ASimmons said:
You lost root, as far as I remember the .6 update was to block the corrent rooting efforts that you see around here, thats why the rooting instruction say to go back to the .5 ruu.
The corrupted update your getting is just sprints server being bogged down.
What you need todo is go back and re-root your phone. Dont worry about the update untill it gets released into one of the current roms or until you here that its safe todo without losing root.
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Thanks, I can't believe I missed that! I had never tried a backup before root, so I did not think about that. Now I know and hopefully this will help someone that googles this issue, as there is never a clear answer until yours.
Thanks again...

So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good

Also If you ever run an ruu on your phone you can kiss your root good bye no matter what version you do. but if you have nand backups you can reroot your phone and then restore one of your backups since there stored on your sdcard.

copc said:
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
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Correction: If you see this symbol, it means you don't have a custom recovery image in the phone. You can actually be rooted and still get that symbol if you haven't yet flashed a custom recovery after you rooted. You need to have a custom recovery (that requires root) to avoid getting that symbol when you try to boot into recovery.
Most rooting methods on here automatically include flashing a custom recovery as one of the steps, so this isn't really a big issue....but I just wanted to clarify the specifics of this for anyone else who reads.

copc said:
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
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I am running a rooted 2.1 and get this symbol , i installed rom manager and it asked me to install flash clockworkmod recovery and it booted into recovery straight away allowing me to partition my sd card, but if i want to access this mode i have to run flash clockworkmod recovery everytime or it will not work
Any idea why that is anyone?

brisuth said:
I am running a rooted 2.1 and get this symbol , i installed rom manager and it asked me to install flash clockworkmod recovery and it booted into recovery straight away allowing me to partition my sd card, but if i want to access this mode i have to run flash clockworkmod recovery everytime or it will not work
Any idea why that is anyone?
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Nope once its on there you should be able to hold the home key while rebooting to get into recovery.
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ASimmons said:
Nope once its on there you should be able to hold the home key while rebooting to get into recovery.
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only way can get there is through flash clockworkmod recovery then select either reboot in recovery mode or turn of handset and restart with home and power button, what ever flash clockworkmod recovery does to make it work as soon as it has been used i am guessing it is deleted or modified,
i have tried running it then checking files on sd card but cant see anything different

brisuth said:
only way can get there is through flash clockworkmod recovery then select either reboot in recovery mode or turn of handset and restart with home and power button, what ever flash clockworkmod recovery does to make it work as soon as it has been used i am guessing it is deleted or modified,
i have tried running it then checking files on sd card but cant see anything different
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The recovery console isn't on your SD card, it's flashed to a partition inside your phone's memory. So you won't see anything different on your card.
And if you can boot into recovery by "restart with home and power button" like you say, then it's working as it should -- that's how you get into recovery.

chromiumleaf said:
The recovery console isn't on your SD card, it's flashed to a partition inside your phone's memory. So you won't see anything different on your card.
And if you can boot into recovery by "restart with home and power button" like you say, then it's working as it should -- that's how you get into recovery.
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just had a friendly member point out what i was starting to suspect the problem lies with the custom recovery being flashed back to stock on every restart, the shell command here
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh this stops any custom recovery on reboot. any advice on what tools to edit or remove

Delete that file when you get root I guess. Our as soon as you reboot into clockwork recovery, flash a rom. Use nfinitefx if you want a stock one
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I always had root that was where the confusion was, what i did not know was the script was running with every boot of the handset and removing the recovery that was there as it was identified as unofficial and exclamation mark could be down to me using many methods to flash i may have renamed original recovery so when it goes to exclamation it is because cant find original recovery whether handset is rooted or not.

danaff37 said:
Delete that file when you get root I guess. Our as soon as you reboot into clockwork recovery, flash a rom. Use nfinitefx if you want a stock one
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would that have worked? i thought about it many many times but as i had never flashed before was unsure how many times phone would reset and if it did before it was installed could i lose my recovery.
on the plus side the 2 months i have spent trying to solve this i have a much broader view of the workings of my handset and without the many members like yourself who take the time to reply and try to help others i would have given up a long time ago.
Brian

I'm sure if you deleted that script a custom recovery would have stuck
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[Q] Stubborn Droid 2

To preface, I've been off the phone hacking/ROM flashing scene for a couple years now; previously working with Windows Mobile, so I know a lot has changed but I'm not largely unfamiliar with the general process of what we are doing here.
Droid 2 In Question:
System Version - Version.2.3.20.A955.Verizon.en.US (After OTA Update 03 NOV 10)
Baseband - BP_C_01.09.07P
I've got a stubborn Droid 2 that just WON'T boot to recovery. I bought a fresh Droid 2 last week, rooted via the 1-2-3 'One-Click' successfully. Then I attempted to follow AngDroid's Fission install step by step for my first ROM flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823473
Issues:
ROM Manager wouldn't do ANYTHING when I would select 'Reboot into Recovery' or attempting to select ROM using 'Install ROM from SD Card'.
Found and installed Koush's Bootstrapper, got 'SUCCESS!' pop-up when selected 'Bootstrap Recovery' yet when I tapped 'Reboot Recovery' nothing happened.
I then attempted to re-install the SBF (which I'm still not 100% clear on what the role of the SBF is, perhaps just the Baseband?) using both AngDroid's instructions in his Fission thread as well as using RSD Lite 4.7+patch AND 4.8 AND 4.9 instructions from this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827624 All those attempts where unsuccessful. RSD wouldn't allow me to 'Start' the SBF flash which I can only assume is because I had the latest version on my Droid 2.
I then decided to restore my phone to factory and start over, so I booted the device pressing x, then search and selecting wipe data/factory reset. Once done, it rebooted and to my surprise it still had the Superuser Permissions app that was installed during the 1-2-3 One-Click process.
I went as far as to install the full Android SDK/Eclipse setup for ADB use and continued to run into 'operation not authorized', 'root not allowed on production ROMs' and 'failure' with any command attempting to remove SU Permissions app and install a diff. SU app/reboot into recovery.
I checked to see if I still, in fact, had SU permissions by re-installing Barnacle, it stated that it needed su but the Superuser Permissions app never prompt me to authorize su. There is also no way (that I see) to manually authorize su for barnacle, or any app, in the SU Permissions app.
Way Forward?
I believe that I either need to re-root and try to reboot to recovery again but I am not confident that will work.
I am starting to think that ROM Manager and Droid 2 Bootstrapper apps didn't have SU and might be why they didn't respond when I selected 'Reboot Recovery' options? As I stated I do not know how to manually authorize.
With this information, what am I to do from here?

That's strange. After root, you should be able to install SU from the market if the one click root doesn't already do it for you. When you run Koush's bootstrapper, the first time you should get a pop up from the SU program asking you if you want to allow or deny the bootstrapper. After that, everytime you load up the bootstrapper you should see a little pop up stating that it has been granted superuser privileges.
Try rooting again, this time use the 1 click root for 2.3.20 found here http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-2-discussion/5321-2-3-20-1-click-root.html, and then go through the steps again and report back

Thanks. I will check it out when I get back home this evening. Can you outline the process if I wanted to wipe the device as if I pulled it out of the box, will no SU app or anything and start from scratch?

wjones said:
Thanks. I will check it out when I get back home this evening. Can you outline the process if I wanted to wipe the device as if I pulled it out of the box, will no SU app or anything and start from scratch?
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Id wipe cache and wipe data/factory reset and start fresh. I've never had any of your problems and I think they can be fixxed with a factory reset.

Sounds like you didn't get rooted properly.
If it were me, I'd sbf and start over.
- Charge battery fully
- Get drivers from Motorola and install them (wait for it to finish)
- Get RSD 4.8+, and 2.3.20 sbf (make sure you get the full file)
- Wipe data and cache in stock recovery (access by power + X key, then search key)
- Boot into bootloader (power + Up key)
- Load RSD and make sure your device shows
- Choose the sbf and click Start
If you follow those steps exactly and sbf doesn't work, then you probably have a hardware problem either on your phone, your PC, or the USB cable.

karnovaran said:
Sounds like you didn't get rooted properly.
- Boot into bootloader (power + Up key)
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Perhaps this is why RSD wouldn't let me flash before. I hadn't known about this. RSD always showed the device (which was in PC Mode and Debugging mode) but the START button was greyed out. I will certainly try again from the Bootloader. Thanks!

wjones said:
Perhaps this is why RSD wouldn't let me flash before. I hadn't known about this. RSD always showed the device (which was in PC Mode and Debugging mode) but the START button was greyed out. I will certainly try again from the Bootloader. Thanks!
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Yeah I don't know why some methods recommend PC Mode. Sbfs are meant to be flashed in bootloader.

Honestly, it sounds like everything is working like it should be, it's just some steps are being skipped or overlooked. Like the SBF in bootloader, and the sbf doesn't erase your data, you need to do a factory reset after sbfing so thats why your superuser app was still there.
There really is no such thing as a phone being stubborn, and majority of errors like that are from the user. Not to be insulting but thats just the case. The only time I have ever seen a stubborn piece of hardware is from overclocking, where some can go higher than others due to having a better piece of wafer. But if you rooted correctly, bootstrapped, etc, there is no reason that you wouldn't be able to install a ROM.

Alright! So the issue was two things that kept this ish from working. 1) I needed to unroot from the initial root tool. It was definitely working ton some level because I could run barnacle and auth su but clockworkmod stuff wouldn't. 2)I OTAd before unrooting and that, while less likely, possibly gummed up the gears!
I am now re-rooted on 2.23 or whatever and will flash Fission later.
Thx for the help!
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wjones said:
Alright! So the issue was two things that kept this ish from working. 1) I needed to unroot from the initial root tool. It was definitely working ton some level because I could run barnacle and auth su but clockworkmod stuff wouldn't. 2)I OTAd before unrooting and that, while less likely, possibly gummed up the gears!
I am now re-rooted on 2.23 or whatever and will flash Fission later.
Thx for the help!
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Is this solved now? May I close it?

Let's wait until I can attempt the flash. Might have a problem still but things are looking good so far. Will report back once flash is done!
Thx
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wjones said:
Let's wait until I can attempt the flash. Might have a problem still but things are looking good so far. Will report back once flash is done!
Thx
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No problem! I'm in no rush to close it, was just curious Hope it all goes well

DONE!
It worked like a charm! Thanks for all the support!

wjones said:
It worked like a charm! Thanks for all the support!
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Awesome. Could you add [SOLVED] to your thread title before the mods close it?

Possible Brick I Dunno what I did

So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!

Just for your information use the root method in wiki thats on this forum its easy. I think the visionary is outdated.
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jjp023 said:
red triangle with an exclamation point in it.
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The red triangle is the pre-screen to the stock recovery. At that screen if you press Vol + and Power (IIRC), it will take you to the recovery. I am not sure why you got this screen if you flashed clockwork recovery from ROM manager.
If the phone is not properly rooted, it probably cannot flash a custom recovery. Make sure you follow the instructions for rooting via Gfree in the wiki.

you are just soft rooted you will need to go through the root through adb

jjp023 said:
So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!
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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).

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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement

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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement
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Not positive how Visionary attempts to permroot, but you should check to see if you have it. Hold the volume down while powering on to enter the bootloader. The first line will say S-OFF if you have root and S-ON if you don't. If you have S-OFF, go ahead and try to flash the ClockworkMod recovery again (it just may not have worked that first time). If you have S-ON, or still have problems flashing the recovery, you can use either of the guides I linked to in the earlier post (you don't have to write scripts, but will need to use terminal---just follow the instructions carefully and watch for typos).
As far as ROMs, once rooted, you can try any of them really easily to see what you like best (be sure to make a backup first and you can always revert back). They are all pretty friendly to use right out of the box.

My phone is back to stock so I can't check lol. The link you posted titled guide seems pretty user friendly. I will attempt that root tnite... I will not do the h boot bc I dnt want more risk of a brick. Once I root I will flash clockworkrecovery. So in rom manager i should flash clockworkrecovery then scroll down to the bottom of it and backup current rom.how can I confirm its backed up? And once it is backed up I am clear to install new roms correct
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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.

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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.
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So jus confirmed s on... so I will root using the guide u provided tnite.. few more questions jus to be safe I dnt wanna be a annoying but I appreciate the help...
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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jjp023 said:
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
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Yup.
jjp023 said:
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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This just means the ClockworkMod recovery did not flash properly (and you are seeing the stock recovery). Just boot the phone normally and try flashing the recovery again in ROM Manager. If that doesn't work, there are other options we can try, but it should work fine once you are actually permrooted.

Sounds good. I'm trying to prepare myself to do this root later tnite.
I want to make sure I get the command right in terminal.
After the money sign and number signs there are spaces correct?
So my keystrokes shoule be (I dnt press $ or #)
$(space)su(enter)
#(space)cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root/data/local/perm_root(enter)
#(space)chmod(space)777(space)/data/local/*(enter)
#(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
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You don't need to type the space at the start of the commands (they will already be there). Also you are missing a space in the second line:
cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
Otherwise, looks good.

I know exactly what you're talking about with the triangle and red exclamation mark. Happened to me when i first flashed clockwork mod (CWM). What fixed it for me was to flash it TWICE when using Rom Manager. The first time you try to flash it, it doesn't always work, so you just reboot as normal (not into recovery) and flash CWM again and it should fix it.
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[Q] I messed up my boss's Droid X. Please help.

Okay, so I messed up my boss's phone today. I tried to do the flash player mod to watch Hulu found here: http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/219288-modified-flash-hulu-droid-x.html (which I did SUCCESSFULLY on my phone). Anyway, I didn't realize that he had NOT made a backup of his Stock ROM (he just rooted his phone 2 days ago). When I did the Flashplayer mod not only did Hulu not work, but any time he opened his browser to the google hompepage it would kick him out of the browser. We tried pulling the battery, clearing cache (on the browser), force stop (on the browser), and nothing worked. I swear I did EXACTLY the same method that I did with my own and mine works fine. It's odd bc the google homepage shouldn't have anything to do with flashplayer. Btw, every other page I've seen seems to work okay with his browser. Anyway, do you guys know what might have happened?

Never really messed with the hulu hack myself... worst case scenario he will need to backup his apparently and data using titanium backup. Then I would make a nandroid backup of the current state as a place to get back to as a worst case scenario. Then sbf the phone and create a clean nandroid right away... then mess with the hulu hack in the event that it doesnt work again.
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Try this
Try installing Dolphin Browser HD off of the market, and choose "on Demand" when starting the first time for flash plugin. See if it works then

lulz.......

You can't reinstall flash player from the market by uninstalling updates then reinstalling?

Everyone keeps saying to do a sfb (which I wanna do for myself) and I've asked in 2 other threads how to do that and asked exactgly what it does. No one has respinded. What is it and how do I do it?
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It returns the phone robots original out of the box state.
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There are instructions online.. i think everyone needs to know how to sbf if they flash new roms, etc
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Can you provide me with a direct link? And wouldn't a simple factory data reset work instead?
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mj23kb08 said:
Can you provide me with a direct link? And wouldn't a simple factory data reset work instead?
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No, a factory reset only affects /data and /cache portion of the phone OS I believe. An sbf can be found here:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-x-discussion/5633-droid-x-2-3-32-full-sbf.html
This is the 2.3.32 full sbf that you will need to flash first. Next you will need the 2.3.34 system only sbf:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OXK9Q1ZG
Make sure after you do each sbf to do a battery pull, then boot into Moto recovery (hold down home button while pressing power, then when the droid comes up, press search button), then do a factory reset. This will help to ensure a clean sbf process without issues.
Good luck, and post back if you have questions.
PS make sure to use at least RSDlite 4.8 for flashing these files.

SysAdmin-X said:
No, a factory reset only affects /data and /cache portion of the phone OS I believe. An sbf can be found here:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-x-discussion/5633-droid-x-2-3-32-full-sbf.html
This is the 2.3.32 full sbf that you will need to flash first. Next you will need the 2.3.34 system only sbf:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OXK9Q1ZG
Make sure after you do each sbf to do a battery pull, then boot into Moto recovery (hold down home button while pressing power, then when the droid comes up, press search button), then do a factory reset. This will help to ensure a clean sbf process without issues.
Good luck, and post back if you have questions.
PS make sure to use at least RSDlite 4.8 for flashing these files.
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Thank you for the links. However, I'm not familiar with RSD Lite, so I don't know how to use it or how to flash these sbf files. I clicked on the first link and the instructions seemed vague and geared more towards people who already know what they are doing. I've only tried flashing 1 custom ROM (Fission) and I've flashed various states of the stock ROM several times. So, when it comes to this sbf stuff I'm very much a noob. I'm scared to death of bricking my phone or my boss's phone for that matter, so would you mind giving me step by step instructions on how to flash these two sbf's? Or at least send a link to a site with "noob" instructions? Thanks in advance.

mj23kb08 said:
Thank you for the links. However, I'm not familiar with RSD Lite, so I don't know how to use it or how to flash these sbf files. I clicked on the first link and the instructions seemed vague and geared more towards people who already know what they are doing. I've only tried flashing 1 custom ROM (Fission) and I've flashed various states of the stock ROM several times. So, when it comes to this sbf stuff I'm very much a noob. I'm scared to death of bricking my phone or my boss's phone for that matter, so would you mind giving me step by step instructions on how to flash these two sbf's? Or at least send a link to a site with "noob" instructions? Thanks in advance.
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RSD Lite was originally used for old Motorola dumbphones like the Razr and some early smartphones. I have an Evo now but I remember how to use it from back when I had a Razr. Just select the SBF file and after it sees the phone hit Flash. Make sure to get a second opinion from an actual Droid X user first since I'm not sure if there's anything extra that needs to be done.

mj23kb08 said:
Thank you for the links. However, I'm not familiar with RSD Lite, so I don't know how to use it or how to flash these sbf files. I clicked on the first link and the instructions seemed vague and geared more towards people who already know what they are doing. I've only tried flashing 1 custom ROM (Fission) and I've flashed various states of the stock ROM several times. So, when it comes to this sbf stuff I'm very much a noob. I'm scared to death of bricking my phone or my boss's phone for that matter, so would you mind giving me step by step instructions on how to flash these two sbf's? Or at least send a link to a site with "noob" instructions? Thanks in advance.
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Here is the link to download RSDlite 4.8.
http://www.multiupload.com/HL0ZAL9GK8
You will want to download this, and then install it on a windows machine. Then in order to use the SFB files (use 2.3.32 first, then 2.3.34), plug in your phone to your computer. I'm pretty sure you need the Android SDK installed, and the correct moto drivers installed as well (not sure.. i've had this set up on my computer forever...). Next, turn off your phone and press and hold "volume down + camera button + power button" and this will boot your phone into bootloader. It will say 30.03 (if you are on 2.3.15 OTA update) or 30.04 (if you are on 2.3.32 or 2.3.34 releases).
Then open up RSDlite on your computer which you installed it. With the phone plugged in, choose the "..." button in RSD lite and browse to the SBF file that you downloaded (remember 2.3.32 first) and then it should show your phone as a device listed below in RSDlite. If it recognizes your phone, you can click the start button in RSDlite. It will then start doing its thing.
My recommendation is to make a nandroid backup before doing this as a last resort if something goes wrong. The first time that you run the SBF file, it may get to like 98 or 99% and then say fail (something about passing BP baseband or something similar, and your phone will reboot). Don't worry, this has happened to me a couple times when I first started using the SBF files and scared me to death. After the phone reboots, pull out the battery and replace it back in. Then hold down the "home" button while pressing the power button. Then when the picture of the little green android dude shows up, press the search button (this is the motorola recovery screen). Then go to "factory reset/wipe data" (or something similarly titled). You can navigate the menus by using the volume up/down buttons. You will make your selections by pressing the camera button.
If you dont get the little android guy to show up, then turn the phone off and try again. After you have wiped data/factory reset, you may need to activate your phone. If it doesn't automatically prompt you to do this, from the dialer app, type *228 and then call. Then choose the option to program your phone, and you will be back in business.
After an SBF, your phone is completely wiped clean, so you will need to re-root, and install bootstrap/any other mods you need.
Hope this helps. Let us know if you have more questions.

Here is a great how to guide. Great forum with lots a smart helpful people.
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-rs-guides/12015-complete-droid-x-sbf-flashing-guide.html
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Is it a brick? Or can I fix it?

My phone isn't a brick but it might as well be, I flashed a CM7 build but didn't much like it so I never bothered to add the Google Apps, instead, I did a restore to my original MyTouch 4G backup but.... it didn't work, got a flashing screen, etc. so back to the CM7 build, now I can't run ROM Manager, it goes to the red triangle symbol, I can't run ADB, it won't find my phone, I can't root, it just keeps saying S=ON! Since I didn't add the Google Apps and can't now, I can't use the phone!
Am I out a MyTouch 4g? Is there anything that'll fix it?

xs11e said:
My phone isn't a brick but it might as well be, I flashed a CM7 build but didn't much like it so I never bothered to add the Google Apps, instead, I did a restore to my original MyTouch 4G backup but.... it didn't work, got a flashing screen, etc. so back to the CM7 build, now I can't run ROM Manager, it goes to the red triangle symbol, I can't run ADB, it won't find my phone, I can't root, it just keeps saying S=ON! Since I didn't add the Google Apps and can't now, I can't use the phone!
Am I out a MyTouch 4g? Is there anything that'll fix it?
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What google apps are you looking for, 99% of them can be found online and installed. Have you tried the online Android market (it can send downloads directly to your device) https://market.android.com/
You might be able use visionary to temp root the device, that will get you started

Bupahs said:
What google apps are you looking for, 99% of them can be found online and installed. Have you tried the online Android market (it can send downloads directly to your device) https://market.android.com/
You might be able use visionary to temp root the device, that will get you started
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Online market won't install because I've flashed my HD2 to Android so it keeps saying that everything is already installed.
Visionary won't temp root, nothing will, don't know why? Do you know just how many rooting proceedures there are on the WWW? I've tried each that I've found 3 or more times with no luck.
I'm going to try to see if the online market will allow me to install Root Explorer, that may help me some....
It won't. There seems no way to change phones???

xs11e said:
My phone isn't a brick but it might as well be, I flashed a CM7 build but didn't much like it so I never bothered to add the Google Apps, instead, I did a restore to my original MyTouch 4G backup but.... it didn't work, got a flashing screen, etc. so back to the CM7 build, now I can't run ROM Manager, it goes to the red triangle symbol, I can't run ADB, it won't find my phone, I can't root, it just keeps saying S=ON! Since I didn't add the Google Apps and can't now, I can't use the phone!
Am I out a MyTouch 4g? Is there anything that'll fix it?
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When you tried to restore, did you flash the recovery back to version 2.x? You need a 2.x recovery (use 2.5.1.2) to flash CM6, stock, and other Froyo roms. This should let you restore back to stock. Supposedly clockworkmod 3.0.0.6 can flash back and forth between Froyo and Gingerbread roms, but I haven't tried it yet.

Thanks but whatever version of Clockworkmod I have is what I have since the critter won't allow anything to be changed???
I can't get into Clockworkmod so I think changing versions won't help but I can't change so it's sort of moot at this point. The phone will do either one of these things:
1. Boot normally into the partial CM7 build which isn't usable as explained elsewhere.
2. It'll do the hold Vol Dn and hit power boot but then it won't do anything, the only option that works is normal boot and then I'm right back into CM7.
3. I can select "restore" or boot normally and select ROM Manager and hit boot into recovery and it'll reboot to the error screen, red triangle with ! sign on it.

That is the stock Recovery (which doesn't do anything but display the lovely triangle).
If Rom Manager is running in your broken CM7 system, you could re-flash Clockwork Recovery.
You can also flash a Clockwork Recovery image using adb or Fastboot.

xs11e said:
Thanks but whatever version of Clockworkmod I have is what I have since the critter won't allow anything to be changed???
I can't get into Clockworkmod so I think changing versions won't help but I can't change so it's sort of moot at this point. The phone will do either one of these things:
1. Boot normally into the partial CM7 build which isn't usable as explained elsewhere.
2. It'll do the hold Vol Dn and hit power boot but then it won't do anything, the only option that works is normal boot and then I'm right back into CM7.
3. I can select "restore" or boot normally and select ROM Manager and hit boot into recovery and it'll reboot to the error screen, red triangle with ! sign on it.
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As mentioned the red triangle is the stock recovery. Not sure how you flashed CM7 with the stock recovery but for some reason it sounds like that is all you have on your phone. FYI...If you hold the vol up and power button at the red triangle screen it should boot you into the stock recovery.
A couple of things that caught my eye. You say that your phone now says s=on. did it used to say s=off? When you say you went back to CM7 after trying to flash your backup, what steps did you take to try and go back? Was your backup made thru Rom Manager? Did you try to use Rom Manager to restore your backup?
First thing I would try is a full wipe and factory reset from the stock recovery if you can get there. You need to try and get CM7 to load correctly. If you can do that then you should be able to flash a new recovery. You dont need s=off to flash roms but you do need root.
Do you still have root acces? Ie: can you use SuperUser? Try a few root apps and see if they as for su permission.

jggimi said:
That is the stock Recovery (which doesn't do anything but display the lovely triangle).
If Rom Manager is running in your broken CM7 system, you could re-flash Clockwork Recovery.
You can also flash a Clockwork Recovery image using adb or Fastboot.
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Thanks, ROM manager is running but re-flashing Clockwork Recovery doesn't help anything, it completes successfully but any attempt to do anything with it gets me to the red triangle.
I wish I could flash a recovery image using ADB or Fastboot, neither will function.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
As mentioned the red triangle is the stock recovery. Not sure how you flashed CM7 with the stock recovery but for some reason it sounds like that is all you have on your phone. FYI...If you hold the vol up and power button at the red triangle screen it should boot you into the stock recovery.
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Correct, that's all that's there or at least all I can access so far. Vol up + pwr does boot me into stock recovery but that doesn't help.... <sigh>
A couple of things that caught my eye. You say that your phone now says s=on. did it used to say s=off? When you say you went back to CM7 after trying to flash your backup, what steps did you take to try and go back? Was your backup made thru Rom Manager? Did you try to use Rom Manager to restore your backup?
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Yes, I did have S=off to flash. Steps trying to go back were none, really, after the restore failed the phone wouldn't do anything as detailed in my posts. The backup was made through Rom Manager and that's what I used to try the restore.
First thing I would try is a full wipe and factory reset from the stock recovery if you can get there. You need to try and get CM7 to load correctly. If you can do that then you should be able to flash a new recovery. You dont need s=off to flash roms but you do need root.
Do you still have root acces? Ie: can you use SuperUser? Try a few root apps and see if they as for su permission.
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Wiped and factory reset several times with no change in the problem. I'd love to get CM7 to load correctly but since I didn't originally load the GAPPS it's pretty useless, no gmail, no contacts or calendar, no Android market (which means all that's on the phone is all I can get, the online market won't work as mentioned in a previous post.) I cannot flash a new recovery, that's what I've been trying to do for several days now.
I do have root access, I can use SuperUser but it doesn't seem to do anything. Attempts to re-root have failed.

i feel ya bro, the reason I am asking these questions is to try and figure out what you have tried and not tried. CM7 isnt useless if you can get it to load. Just because you dont have the gapps installed, that shouldnt do anything but make you not have the market and google apps. Do you have adb set up and will it recognize your device? The biggest question is why would it have turned s=on and why wouldnt rom manager be able to flash a new recovery. Rom manager has a problem making/flashing backups using 3.0.0.X recoveries so that is where this problem started I think. Thats why I am trying to get you a clean working CM7. Does it give you a error when trying to install recovery through rom manager? Have you tried going to applications/manage applications/all/Rom Manager and clearing the data?
If you have su access you might also be able to flash a new recovery via terminal emulator.

Thanks, I appreciate the help and sympathy! I've fixed it in a very unorthodox way, it involved going to T-Mobile's website, changing phone to Blackberry 9700, moving SIM to 9700 and switching data plan to Blackberry.
Dang, that's a little screen....
The reason I'm maybe not giving you all the information you need is that I have very bad arthritis in my hands and I try to type as little as possible, I'm sorry if I'm not being clear but don't hesitate to ask if you need more info.
Not having the gmail means no sync, can't import contacts or calendar, no apps means what I have on the phone is ALL I HAVE, I can't get anything else. That's why I say it's unusable.
ADB does not recognize the device.
Installing recovery through Rom manager results in red triangle.
I did clear Rom manager data as you suggested but it didn't help.
How could I flash recover through terminal emulator, I do have that and can access it and typing SU does give me the # prompt so that's helpful maybe? I'd need step by step directions because I'm very unfamiliar with using terminal emulator, I've only used it to follow directions given in the rooting instructions.

xs11e said:
Thanks, I appreciate the help and sympathy! I've fixed it in a very unorthodox way, it involved going to T-Mobile's website, changing phone to Blackberry 9700, moving SIM to 9700 and switching data plan to Blackberry.
Dang, that's a little screen....
The reason I'm maybe not giving you all the information you need is that I have very bad arthritis in my hands and I try to type as little as possible, I'm sorry if I'm not being clear but don't hesitate to ask if you need more info.
Not having the gmail means no sync, can't import contacts or calendar, no apps means what I have on the phone is ALL I HAVE, I can't get anything else. That's why I say it's unusable.
ADB does not recognize the device.
Installing recovery through Rom manager results in red triangle.
I did clear Rom manager data as you suggested but it didn't help.
How could I flash recover through terminal emulator, I do have that and can access it and typing SU does give me the # prompt so that's helpful maybe? I'd need step by step directions because I'm very unfamiliar with using terminal emulator, I've only used it to follow directions given in the rooting instructions.
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to flash a recovery image via terminal emulator if you are on cm7 is:
Type "su" and then enter the code below after putting the recovery on your sd card. Make sure you name it recovery.img
Code:
flash_image recovery /sdcard/[COLOR=black]recovery.img[/COLOR]
LMK if that works.

Thanks, I'm not sure what I expected but what happened is exactly nothing:
Put Recovery.img on card, booted up phone, started Terminal Emulator got:
export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ su
# flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
#
And that's it, nothing happened at all, just went back to the # prompt.

xs11e said:
Thanks, I'm not sure what I expected but what happened is exactly nothing:
Put Recovery.img on card, booted up phone, started Terminal Emulator got:
export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$ su
# flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
#
And that's it, nothing happened at all, just went back to the # prompt.
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As long as you named it recovery.img and not Recovery.img it should have worked. Try to boot into recovery by powering off your phone and then holding the vol but and power button at the same time. Then chose recovery. Or if you on CM7 just hold power button for a sec and then reboot and recovery.
LMK if that works.

I checked the name several times, booting into recovery just takes me to the red triangle, I've tried that many times before, nothing's changed.
I suspect it's a brick?

xs11e said:
I checked the name several times, booting into recovery just takes me to the red triangle, I've tried that many times before, nothing's changed.
I suspect it's a brick?
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ok, I still dont believe its a brick. Are you running a rom at all? I mean does it boot into CM7 even though you dont have Gapps? Or is it totaly stuck on bootloop all the time. I am going to send you a PM with my Gtalk. Add me if you want and maybe it will make it a little easier to communicate and help.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
ok, I still dont believe its a brick. Are you running a rom at all? I mean does it boot into CM7 even though you dont have Gapps? Or is it totaly stuck on bootloop all the time.
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It boots right up in CM7, if I'd added the Gapps at the beginning I'd just be running it happily I think? I'd be able to sync and get needed apps from the market, etc. etc.
I am going to send you a PM with my Gtalk. Add me if you want and maybe it will make it a little easier to communicate and help.
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Thanks, I'd really prefer to do it this way. Why? Because I'm really sick of messing with it and I hate to spend much time working on it now, I've resigned myself to having a very costly paperweight! Using the thread here allows me to check in once or twice a day when the urge strikes, besides, I really don't IM, never have, never could figure it out. I don't text either, it's blocked at T-Mo's website and on my phones as well. I'm not really a technophobe but I'm 99.2 % one.....

That's fine. I was just trying to maybe make it a little easier in ya.
If you can install a .apk I can send you the market and a few things. We can try to get a few things going that way if you want. If we can get the market going you can get gmail and every thing else from there. will attach the market and tell you how to install if you want
Sent from my HTC Glacier

If he's still s=on, he's not going to be able to flash recovery. You need to get s=off.
Grab the .apk for Visionary. Grab gfree. Grab an apk for a terminal emulator if you don't have one. Put them all on your sdcard, boot into CM7, and follow the instructions for the gfree method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
If you don't have a file manager to get to them, you could try SMS'ing the download links to the phone and installing through the browser for the .apk's.

TrueBlue_Drew said:
That's fine. I was just trying to maybe make it a little easier in ya.
If you can install a .apk I can send you the market and a few things. We can try to get a few things going that way if you want. If we can get the market going you can get gmail and every thing else from there. will attach the market and tell you how to install if you want
Sent from my HTC Glacier
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I can't install an APK. I got all the Google apps and put them on the SD card, if I click on one I get "couldn't parse the file" what ever that means?
Actuall, it did install the Market apk but it won't open.....