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I like to emulate the stylus select and hold with the device keyboard. How can I do it?
I don't know about the keyboard, but you can assign a hardware key to show the context menu, or use VJKeyPress I think.
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Carmi said:
I like to emulate the stylus select and hold with the device keyboard. How can I do it?
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how about "Fn + Space" ??
Is there Fn key on Wizard?
buzz
there isn't an "FN" key but there is a key with a dot on it that works as an "FN" key would. And i just tried it and space, along with enter and ok and no luck.
I'm the only one that like to open the context menu with the device keyborad? :lol:
I hold the central button of the d-pad to do that.
Not so far the keyboard...
coeptum, 10x
Hey guys,
is there a way to reassign the hardkeys home and back?
I also have an item "Buttons" in the settings but there is only one key defined: "Key 1 (Hold), Voicedial settings".
However, I can't find this button, where is it?
It's the first button i.e phone pickup, hold it and it will give you the voice dial
Key 1 is the dial key (far left).
You can reassign the back key with AE Button Plus. I'm not sure that you can remap home.
use AE Button Plus to reassign the keys, words great on my touch hd. I read somewhere that Home button is not supported due to different driver implemented by HTC
Thanks for your replies.
I'm aware of AE Button Plus but the interesting thing is the reassignment of the home key.
I wanna keep the back key as it is and assign an ok/close task to the home key because the end call button actually does the same thing as the home button namely go back to the today screen when you have a running application in foreground.
In AEB+ I have the following:
Button 1 (hold)
Windows Key
Enter/Action
Volume Up
Volume Down
Green Phone Button
Red Phone Button
Left Softkey
Right Softkey
Up Arrow
Down Arrow
Left Arrow
Right Arrow
I can access the volume up and down keys but which key is the back key?
I assume the green and red phone button is pickup and hangup key respectively?
Is there a way to access the power key at the top?
ez2remember said:
...but which key is the back key?
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The back key is "Enter/Action".
It seems that the home key as well as the power key cannot be reassigned.
Back and home key can be reassigned on a window by window basis in the registry. Not particularly useful, but better than nothing.
V
What exactly needs to be done in the registry to reassign the home key?
Even if I have to enter a new registry key for any program window I might use it is worth the effort (at least for me).
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The back key is "Enter/Action".
It seems that the home key as well as the power key cannot be reassigned.
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I just want to update:
the back key is not the "Enter/Action" key. i have tried to edit this button and it didn't remap to the Back key.
If you go to File -> Add Button, and tap the Back key, it will recognize the key as button #405C. I have remapped it to "Close Active Application" and it worked.
i don't think u can reassign the Home key as AE Button Plus cannot access the Home key.
I was also unable to change the Home key in AEBplus.
Concerning the back key assignment with AEBplus, I was trying to assign something to the long press but unable to get it working. No problem for single press and double press.
Anyone has better luck?
vijay555 said:
Back and home key can be reassigned on a window by window basis in the registry. Not particularly useful, but better than nothing.
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So how do we go about doing that vijay555?
Power Key
Here's the modified power key from Diamond but it can be used on HD.
When Power key on long-pressed, it will display the menu for choice. Tested.
Regards,
KCJ
just tested on Aeplus 2.6.6.1, the Back key = the Ok key, it can be remapped.
I have it set to:
Single press="Ok/Close"
Double press = S2U2
Long press=close active app
EDIT: Long press doesn't work... might try another method.
don't know if this works, but it is worth a try:
if you copy a shortcut to \Windows and name it "Short_Power.lnk" you can intercept the short power key press. at least that worked for me on my diamond.
you could try s.th. like "Short_Home.lnk" but that would intercept the "other home key" (which manages the cursor's position like end, up down, left, right, etc).
the magic would be to find the correct name of the key.
longpress back key (405C)
I know this is an old thread, but I haven't found yet a solution.
I'd like to be able to add longpress back key (405C) to the key menu on the windows config.
I've found the registry key that HTC uses to provide longpress send key, but I copied with no luck.
Anyone knows how to do it? vijay555 has said it's possible but never indicated how...
In AE Button Plus I only could assign the two phone buttons. What about the "Home Button", "Back Button", "Calendar" and "Contacts"?
The back button can be assigned. Assign things to the "OK-button" i AE Button Plus to assign it to the back button.
Great! Thank you very much.
Hi, here is a reply on AEB Plus compatibility with the HD direct from the developer:
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Hello David,
Thanks, it is always nice to know if you find this utility interesting
As for your question: yes, BPlus is compatible with HD as well as any other PocketPC 2k3 / PocketPC 2k3SE / WM5/WM6/WM6.1 devices.
The problem I know on Touch HD:
- Home key may not be remapped due to driver implementation
- Long keypresses are not detected in BPlus for green/red keys and “back” button (button driver limitation).
- “Back” button corresponds to the “Ok” in button list so you will not need to add it via File->Add key but just re-define “Ok” button instead
- Backlight controlling will work in next BPlus release (should appear this week)
Anyway – just try and install BPlus to check if it will suit your needs before buying. It have very few “demo” mode limitations...
Regards,
Alexander
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all keys except home key works great on mine
By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?
mirandolo said:
By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?
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Don't forget the Volume Buttons (long-press DOES work for those two)
Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations
triffonovm said
[- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?]
Confirmed.
John R
triffonovm said:
Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations
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I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?
Regarding the back key. I have this not mapped for one touch, i.e., normal OK operation, and for double press I have it rotate the screen.
I don't like gsen and the gyrator - great apps but I just don't need them always there.
dannyng said:
I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?
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I have this problem too! Any solution to share?
That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.
Cheesy Dave said:
That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.
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I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
Thanks for the fix!
I shall try it tonite!
Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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I just tried it and it doesn't work. I guess it's a bug and need to be fixed by the developer. Hmmmm, just suprised that no one really notice this bug.
Same bug on volume up. I assigned 1P for standard function and 2P for WiFi toggle. Well after the first or second use, it looses mapping. To have it to work again a soft reset is needed...
Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.
Insane Devil said:
Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.
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I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.
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I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.
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Glad that it work for you (so envy, hehehehe) and thanks for the email to the developer.
Wondering why some HTC HD working (removing the volume slider option) and some not (like my case )
Update: http://rapidshare.com/files/265248702/zImage-08-08-09-custom
No changes on my end, just updated to today's kernel source and repatched.
Here is the better version:
After trying a variety of combinations of keys, shifting, etc...I've come up with what *I* like best. There are plenty of better ways, if I could get them to work, but I've ended up with some severe limitations:
- Can't use shift with call, end, power or camera buttons
- Can't detect long vs short keypress
So, I've disabled shifting entirely. Yes, I loose a couple keys (home and left rotate...home can be done with end if setup to do so, and I don't care about rotation that much).
Everything is the same as the default builds except:
- Power is menu instead of home
- Volume keys do volume control
- Camera is back
Included in the file is the two source files I've changed, which go in kernel/arch/arm/mach-msm
Anyone else who knows how to compile the kernel should be able to change the layout...if you need help, let me know and I'll do what I can.
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I've slightly remapped the vogue's buttons.
Before we start, I want to be clear: This is a dirty hack. The buttons are not customizable. But IMHO it's better than what we have.
Just download (see above for new link) and replace your existing zImage.
All I did was swap the GPIO settings in vogue-board.h
Add this to the bottom of the file, and comment out the original #define lines near the top.
Code:
#define GPIO_VOLDN 29
#define GPIO_POWER 41
#define GPIO_VOLUP (VOGUE_GPIO_MISC5_BASE+7)
#define VOGUE_GPIO_CAM_BUTTON 42
Power and volume down switched.
Camera and volume up switched.
Power = Menu
Camera = Back
To rotate screen, use vol up + left.
To change volume, use vol up + power or camera.
For me, this will result in much less use of the volume keys, saving some wear and tear.
Hope you like it!
Edit: Seems volume down is the only key that will turn the screen back on now...will look into fixing that.
I think I'll pass. I'm sure some people will like it better, but I like the idea of my volume keys being associated with the audio volume, even if I have to use a shift-key to do it.
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I think I'll pass. I'm sure some people will like it better, but I like the idea of my volume keys being associated with the audio volume, even if I have to use a shift-key to do it.
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Hopefully that will happen eventually.
This is definitely a step in the right direction though, my volume slider is starting to get pretty shaky. Its got lots of side to side movement.
grantemsley - finally something i wanted to get done for a long time, can u pls explain how you did it - this is the combination i like, seeing that i dont use the d-pad much (with a nice touch screen and all.... )
i like the d-pad - down : menu
d-pad - up : back
volume up : volume up
volume down : volume down
power : power
camera : rotate screen
pls help me customize my zImage. what do I need to package the zImage already available..
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grantemsley - finally something i wanted to get done for a long time, can u pls explain how you did it - this is the combination i like, seeing that i dont use the d-pad much (with a nice touch screen and all.... )
i like the d-pad - down : menu
d-pad - up : back
volume up : volume up
volume down : volume down
power : power
camera : rotate screen
pls help me customize my zImage. what do I need to package the zImage already available..
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I like this idea, although I occasionally use the d-pad. No way to add a shift to make the d-pad still the d-pad, or use a long press or something? Or is that too complicated for the fix atm?
I should start reading about android coding.
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grantemsley - finally something i wanted to get done for a long time, can u pls explain how you did it - this is the combination i like, seeing that i dont use the d-pad much (with a nice touch screen and all.... )
i like the d-pad - down : menu
d-pad - up : back
volume up : volume up
volume down : volume down
power : power
camera : rotate screen
pls help me customize my zImage. what do I need to package the zImage already available..
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This control scheme looks very appealing to me as well...+1
Grantemsley, could you post another zImage with this config?
I'm currently at work at my real job, but playing with the code a bit in between things. I'm working on rewriting this the proper way, so that I can add additional shift keys.
There are two things I need to know:
- Where is the code that controls which button(s) will turn the phone on from standby. If I remap the power button, I end up with no buttons able to turn the phone on...I basically can't continue without finding this.
- Assuming we have any 1 key as a "shift" key, and every other key is remappable, what do you think the ideal layout would be?
Note: This will never be user configurable unless someone else figures that part out...but we can compile our own kernels with our preferred layout.
myshinynewtouch said:
i like the d-pad - down : menu
d-pad - up : back
volume up : volume up
volume down : volume down
power : power
camera : rotate screen
..
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I would vote this layout - keeping the power button as it currently is, but change the camera butto9n back to being the [alt] key for rotating, etc... just so that there were a few more options.
The d-pad up and down for back and menu respectively is what I am REALLY looking forward to.... and the volume switch back to controlling volume.
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I'm currently at work at my real job, but playing with the code a bit in between things. I'm working on rewriting this the proper way, so that I can add additional shift keys.
There are two things I need to know:
- Where is the code that controls which button(s) will turn the phone on from standby. If I remap the power button, I end up with no buttons able to turn the phone on...I basically can't continue without finding this.
- Assuming we have any 1 key as a "shift" key, and every other key is remappable, what do you think the ideal layout would be?
Note: This will never be user configurable unless someone else figures that part out...but we can compile our own kernels with our preferred layout.
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Power: Power
End: End/Power Off
D-Pad Up: Back
D-Pad Down: Menu
D-Pad Left: Rotate
D-Pad Right: ?
Camera: Shift
Shift + D-Pad: Standard D-Pad
That's how I see it being ideal.
grantemsley said:
I'm currently at work at my real job, but playing with the code a bit in between things. I'm working on rewriting this the proper way, so that I can add additional shift keys.
There are two things I need to know:
- Where is the code that controls which button(s) will turn the phone on from standby. If I remap the power button, I end up with no buttons able to turn the phone on...I basically can't continue without finding this.
- Assuming we have any 1 key as a "shift" key, and every other key is remappable, what do you think the ideal layout would be?
Note: This will never be user configurable unless someone else figures that part out...but we can compile our own kernels with our preferred layout.
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K, I dunno where the code is, so I can't answer that... but as for my ideal layout:
- Keep Camera button as shift
- Volume key does volume (non-shifted)
- Power button is Home
- Shift-Left is "back"
- As for suspend... I dunno, maybe double-tap the power button? Or just leave it as the Red key.
As far as never being user configurable... I'm not too certain how this all fits into the kernel, but if it could be incorporated as a module rather than built into the kernel, then that could be overcome. It wouldn't be simple. We'd need a UI front-end, which would be easy enough, but the back-end would essentially have to edit the kernel source, rebuild then reload the module. And even that probably isn't possible, as I'm quite sure android doesn't include gcc.
You guys really use the dpad that little? I use it all the time while web browsing.
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Power: Power
End: End/Power Off
D-Pad Up: Back
D-Pad Down: Menu
D-Pad Left: Rotate
D-Pad Right: ?
Camera: Shift
Shift + D-Pad: Standard D-Pad
That's how I see it being ideal.
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I see a few people want to map functions to the non-shifted D-Pad. This makes no sense to me. I like having the D-Pad as a D-Pad. My ideal configuration would make my phone usable to anyone I hand it to. My biggest beef with the current key layout has nothing to do with me using the phone, as I'm used to it... but I like to show off android to people, and it's kinda lame when they can't figure out what the buttons do without me explaining. I'd like it to be simple for someone to pick up an Android Vogue and just use it. Of course, there's no button physically labeled "Menu," so the lock screen will always be confusing to them.
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You guys really use the dpad that little? I use it all the time while web browsing.
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Yeah, I used the D-Pad all the time in WinMO, but since switching to Android, I don't touch it, unless I'm playing a game or something. If it doesn't make sense to re-map the d-pad, I'm good with that. Using the camera button for back kind of makes sense, or even the shift-left combo...
If my volume rocker gets less use than currently, it's all good.
Edit: I browse using the touch screen only and it is very accurate, even zoomed out...
Also, I don't ever hand the phone over to someone else anymore, because it NEVER seems to make sense to them, but I can see Craig0rs point...
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Power: Power
End: End/Power Off
D-Pad Up: Back
D-Pad Down: Menu
D-Pad Left: Rotate
D-Pad Right: ?
Camera: Shift
Shift + D-Pad: Standard D-Pad
That's how I see it being ideal.
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I like this layout best, so that's a +1 from me. That volume toggler wasn't made for industrial use like the d-pad and I really don't use the d-pad to select items very often since I can just touch what I want.
Also, I'm glad you guys started talking about the shift key...because in all the frigging reading I've done on android over the last week, I have somehow managed to miss that the camera button is the shift key for volume toggle ["head banging on wall"].
rhorton said:
Yeah, I used the D-Pad all the time in WinMO, but since switching to Android, I don't touch it, unless I'm playing a game or something. If it doesn't make sense to re-map the d-pad, I'm good with that. Using the camera button for back kind of makes sense, or even the shift-left combo...
If my volume rockjer gets less use than currently, it's all good.
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Going back though is a function used very commonly, it would be a pain to have to hold a shift/alt button in order to go back.
I understand people not wanting to remap the dpad, and craigOr has a point about usability.
How about something like this:
Volume Up: Up
Volume Down: Down
Power: Wake, Home
End: Suspend, End
Camera: Back, Shift?
Camera + Left: Rotate
D Pad: D Pad
Is it even possible to make the camera function as back if pressed, and a shift if held?
My ideal layout would be:
Power: single press for suspend/resume.....long press for power off menu.
Volume slider: volume
Send: single press for phone dialer.......long press for home
End: single press for end call....long press for menu
Camera: single press for back.......long press for rotate:
Dpad: dpad
Center button: single press for select.....Long press recent programs
zenulator said:
My ideal layout would be:
Power: single press for suspend/resume.....long press for power off menu.
Volume slider: volume
Send: single press for phone dialer.......long press for home
End: single press for end call....long press for menu
Camera: single press for back.......long press for rotate:
Dpad: dpad
Center button: single press for select.....Long press recent programs
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I was under the impression that the Red key's function gets changed by android depending on whether it's in a call or not. This would cause a huge problem with your layout, as it would take a lot more work to get the menu up during a phone call.
Thus far, I do not know how to do long keypress vs short keypress.
Also, there has to be at least 1 button that is not shiftable...which will be the button used to wake up from standby (since I still haven't gotten the dev tools working right, I can't tell why shiftable keys aren't waking the device up...)
zenulator said:
My ideal layout would be:
Power: single press for suspend/resume.....long press for power off menu.
Volume slider: volume
Send: single press for phone dialer.......long press for home
End: single press for end call....long press for menu
Camera: single press for back.......long press for rotate:
Dpad: dpad
Center button: single press for select.....Long press recent programs
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When thinking about layouts I was under the impression that we had to keep the same functions, just move them to different keys. If the power button could suspend and wake the phone, that would be ideal... but is it possible to change all the different functions around like that?
Hi,
Im trying to play a game on my phone, which requires me to push "Yes" or "No" to "Do you want sound?".
You have to actually push the hardware left or right nav key button to proceed, which the Topaz/Td2 does not have.
So i thought simple, go into the Buttons configuration settings, and set "Call (hold)" as left soft key, and "Hangup (Long hold)" as right soft key... but this doesnt work.
Anyone have an idea of how i can mimic the nav buttons?
Cheers,
Blake
There is a program called "TopazKbdControl_GSM" that allows mapping of all your hardware keys, even Volume keys, Home, and back. It is actually pretty slick, allowing you to map Volume keys as Up and Down with a single press... and VolUp-VolDown on a hold.
Same with the bottom buttons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555821
Thanks!
That program is exactly what i wanted.
Unfortunately it doesn't let me get pass the screen in the game :S
Its Line Rider 1.0.5 if everyone knows how to get it working.