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I was thinking about getting the EVO 3D but I think I'm gonna wait..especially after reading this:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/13/htc-sensation-looks-to-have-signed-bootloader-custom-roms-look/
If the HTC Sensation appears to have a locked bootloader, I'm sure the EVO 3D will as well. But hopefully the Devs can unlock it if it is locked down. I bought the Atrix and it's still locked down. That's why I sold it....
here's a better link: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-bootloader-custom-rom-support-is-in-danger/
The engadget article is kinda vague.
I think it most likely will have a locked bootloader. It can be unlocked, but going to take a lot more time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077184
Isn't it true that only phones that are encrypted so far are Verizon's phones? When a sprint one comes out encrypted then we should be scared.
Right now chalk it up to big red demanding it be done...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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cesarcerros31 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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I don't know...
But I'm hoping this thing isn't locked down like the Atrix. I think it'll be unlocked over time...
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Isn't it true that only phones that are encrypted so far are Verizon's phones? When a sprint one comes out encrypted then we should be scared.
Right now chalk it up to big red demanding it be done...
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Don't be so logical, it breaks forum rules.
But, the Sensation is on T-Mobile. [They've gone to the dark side lately anyway]
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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Yes, thats exactly how mostly all phones come, except google phones. THEY ALL ARE LOCKED, and most of the time root is achieved before the phone is released.
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Yes, thats exactly how mostly all phones come, except google phones. THEY ALL ARE LOCKED, and most of the time root is achieved before the phone is released.
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Well yeah but we have a word usage issue here.
When people are saying "locked" they are meaning "signed."
Such as the Droids.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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it was locked but it was rooted before it even came to market...a few of the awesome dev's around here got it from the google conference and had it rooted within a couple days well before sprint stores etc got them.
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it was locked but it was rooted before it even came to market...a few of the awesome dev's around here got it from the google conference and had it rooted within a couple days well before sprint stores etc got them.
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But full NAND unlock didn't come until the ENG bootloader surfaced right? or were their phones given at the conf. already with the ENG bootloader?
SO I just got my Evo, and am REALLY wanting to root it and start playing with ROMS like i have on my OG Droid, and my Incredible after that, but my phone came with the current OTA upgrade that hasn't been cracked yet already installed. i know that the Unrevoked team is working on it, and will crack it sometime, but.....
I have the official sprint RUU package, "RUU_Supersonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1" EXE style package and was wondering, since it was designed to be used with S-on, would it work to downgrade my phone so that I could root.
I'm kinda guessing not, since I really haven't found to many references to it on here, but there have been a few people that said it works. Just looking for the general consensus of wiser heads than mine as to if i should try it...
Thanks for the advise...
Post a link to it ill give it a shot
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SO I just got my Evo, and am REALLY wanting to root it and start playing with ROMS like i have on my OG Droid, and my Incredible after that, but my phone came with the current OTA upgrade that hasn't been cracked yet already installed. i know that the Unrevoked team is working on it, and will crack it sometime, but.....
I have the official sprint RUU package, "RUU_Supersonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1" EXE style package and was wondering, since it was designed to be used with S-on, would it work to downgrade my phone so that I could root.
I'm kinda guessing not, since I really haven't found to many references to it on here, but there have been a few people that said it works. Just looking for the general consensus of wiser heads than mine as to if i should try it...
Thanks for the advise...
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If it were that simple ... it would have already been cracked. Patience is a virtue ... I wouldn't attempt anything that might further complicate the process, when root is finally available.
To answers your question, No , ive tried 3 seperate ones but they all fail.
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If it were that simple ... it would have already been cracked. Patience is a virtue ... I wouldn't attempt anything that might further complicate the process, when root is finally available.
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I thought of this same thing today, and figured it was too simple. Damn. Just got a replacement phone from Sprint and now I can't freakin' root the damn thing. I NEED my MIUI, haha. Stock sucks.
Dude meeee to. I had radio failure and got brand new phone with update, ughhhhhhh. I really feel like a crack addict needing my flash fix lmao. Plus I REALLY SUCK AT WAITING......
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Dude meeee to. I had radio failure and got brand new phone with update, ughhhhhhh. I really feel like a crack addict needing my flash fix lmao. Plus I REALLY SUCK AT WAITING......
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ahahahahaha "I really feel like a crack addict needing my flash fix" ahahaha toooooo funny!! But I feel the same way though... I upgraded to an EVO but I've had experienced rooting them before hand, and now that I've finally got my own they decide to sell them with the update already?! wtf?!
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ahahahahaha "I really feel like a crack addict needing my flash fix" ahahaha toooooo funny!! But I feel the same way though... I upgraded to an EVO but I've had experienced rooting them before hand, and now that I've finally got my own they decide to sell them with the update already?! wtf?!
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Same story here. I rooted my girlfriend's Evo and fell in love with some ROMs. Fast forward to my crappy Hero finally biting the dust and my brand new Evo having the new OTA out of the box :-( I feel your pain!
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I had been wondering this same thing.
There is one other thing I was wondering if its possible. Why hasn't anyone figured out the signature logic. IE figured out how to sign updates??? If they cracked that we could update to anything we wanted and wouldn't need the holes to turn s-on to s-off.
Not that simple...
I know it sounds as if the devs can make things happen that most of us average folks can't, but let me tell you. I work in IT, it is basically impossible to crack a 256bit lock bootloaded. 128bit security has still not been hacked...now imagine doubling that security, and that's exactly what the dev would have to crack.
HTC should update the bootloader at some point since they promised no lock bootloaders...but your chances are as good as mine on guessing when that will be.
just my $0.02
glad i asked. 256 would take a long time to crack. You would think though that someone would know someone in HTC that might be able to get that key
I applaud all the devs who have been working hard to crack the most recent release. Your work is greatly appreciated.
LiL xSOULJAx said:
To answers your question, No , ive tried 3 seperate ones but they all fail.
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You are both right and wrong. With the 4.22.651.2 & newer you cant use an older ruu. When I had 3.70.651.1 I could use any older ruu such as 3.29.651.x.
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@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
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Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......
I hope so
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Certainly hope so of course. When is 'tonight'?! Suspension. Killing. me! Arrrg!
Let it be root!
Root for the 3D because no one cares about the 4g anymore? Yup.
Disclaimer: I care about the Evo 4g, it just seems like it's being abandoned.
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Root for the 3D because no one cares about the 4g anymore? Yup.
Disclaimer: I care about the Evo 4g, it just seems like it's being abandoned.
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Its certainly not going to be OG Evo oriented. That much is clear. However, progress is progress. These guys were talking about a universal bootloader unlocker. This could be it. If not, its root for 3d/sensation. Now they focus on OG Evo.
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Its certainly not going to be OG Evo oriented. That much is clear. However, progress is progress. These guys were talking about a universal bootloader unlocker. This could be it. If not, its root for 3d/sensation. Now they focus on OG Evo.
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Is rooting the shooter and pyramid really all that revolutionary? I'm holding out hope for the big one. This could be a good day.
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Is rooting the shooter and pyramid really all that revolutionary? I'm holding out hope for the big one. This could be a good day.
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dunno. I know they've been working on it for a while. I got an OG so I haven't really been paying attention. But hey, I'm with you. I hope its the big one.
Posted by @agrabren on twitter, 10:08 am:
RT @ eye_baller: Today's menu is pretty exciting: An @alpharevx and @unrevoked gratin, basted with @htc kernel sauce. #omnonnom
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Maybe something like an updated UnrEVOked3 or Gingerbreak?
The only option we have is to hope. and with unrevoked backing it. we have a possiblity of it being for us.
I'm very hopeful that this is going to be a universal root. But the pessimist in me is prepared for disappointment.
Well, considering the dinc2 has the same gingerbreak exploit patched may be universal
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Well, considering the dinc2 has the same gingerbreak exploit patched may be universal
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Here's hoping...
(crosses fingers)
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I hope so
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^X2
who cares about the stupid 3d? one can only hope permaroot is done so they move on to the phones that most of us still have lol
I'm probably wrong but I thought I read that the 3D and the OG Evo use the same bootloader. If that's true than wouldn't root for the 3D mean root for the Evo?
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I'm probably wrong but I thought I read that the 3D and the OG Evo use the same bootloader. If that's true than wouldn't root for the 3D mean root for the Evo?
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if its the same bootloader wouldn't that mean that even if we root we can't get s-off until (if) they unencrypt it? I never heard them say they were going to do our phone just the sensation and the 3d
please!
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I'm probably wrong but I thought I read that the 3D and the OG Evo use the same bootloader. If that's true than wouldn't root for the 3D mean root for the Evo?
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what i do know is they said the exploit they found would work across all bootloaders with some tweaking, that said however, the 3d is a lot more locked down than the evo is, and i believe the current temp root for 3d doesnt work for the OG evo because they work differently , even though they use the same or similar bootloaders, i could be getting some of it wrong but u get the jist of it
Now I know I Could of posted this in the Evo 3D forum... But since I feel like I'm kind of Abandoning My Trusty little buddy (HTC Hero) I figured I Owed it to post here!
Which if I may add is, in my Opinion the Best and Most Loyal forum on XDA!
With that said... I'm Sad to say that come Monday I Should have my HTC EVO 3D! Don't worry though I'll Definitely stop in from time to time to Check on my Favorite community hands Down! And I'll continue to do what I can for Anyone who needs Help whether for my ExEnHeroC ROM or just General Q & A! Finally I guess, I could only Hope that the Developers and community over in the EVO 3D section is at least half as Helpful as my Hero Friends have been!
Thanx for Everything Guys!
Oh man, I loved your froyo sense rom, can't wait to see you over here
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Now I know I Could of posted this in the Evo 3D forum... But since I feel like I'm kind of Abandoning My Trusty little buddy (HTC Hero) I figured I Owed it to post here!
Which if I may add is, in my Opinion the Best and Most Loyal forum on XDA!
With that said... I'm Sad to say that come Monday I Should have my HTC EVO 3D! Don't worry though I'll Definitely stop in from time to time to Check on my Favorite community hands Down! And I'll continue to do what I can for Anyone who needs Help whether for my ExEnHeroC ROM or just General Q & A! Finally I guess, I could only Hope that the Developers and community over in the EVO 3D section is at least half as Helpful as my Hero Friends have been!
Thanx for Everything Guys!
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Oh man, I loved your froyo sense rom, can't wait to see you over here
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Thanx Alot man, I Appreciate the Love Bro! Hopefully I'll be able to come up with a few Good Roms or at least... Ideas, for All the EVO 3D community!
Hey by the way do you know if the EVO 3D's Bootloader is being shipped Unlocked Yet?
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Thanx Alot man, I Appreciate the Love Bro! Hopefully I'll be able to come up with a few Good Roms or at least... Ideas, for All the EVO 3D community!
Hey by the way do you know if the EVO 3D's Bootloader is being shipped Unlocked Yet?
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They will not be shipped unlocked, but rather you have to register up with HTC to use their tool to unlock it, or not void you warranty as far as Sprint knows by using the AlphaRevX's Revolutionary bootloader unlock tool.
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dastin1015 said:
They will not be shipped unlocked, but rather you have to register up with HTC to use their tool to unlock it, or not void you warranty as far as Sprint knows by using the AlphaRevX's Revolutionary bootloader unlock tool.
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Question... Now as far as Rooting, and Recovery goes with the 3D, Which method would you Suggest is the Fastest or Easiest that's Available at the moment?
Oh and Thanx for the Replies!
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Question... Now as far as Rooting, and Recovery goes with the 3D, Which method would you Suggest is the Fastest or Easiest that's Available at the moment?
Oh and Thanx for the Replies!
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Currently the only available way is the revolutionary.io way. There are guides in the Android Development section for the 3D that gives you step by step help with obtaining S-OFF then root. Also when flashing your first recovery image I recommend the hboot flashed TWRP recovery, as you get more options. Basically the steps are 1) Obtain S-OFF 2) Flash a recovery 3) Flash superuser zip to obtain root 4) Reboot and enjoy your new rooted Evo 3D. After that it is up to you what you want to do.
I can't wait to get my 3D, but currently any money I have is going towards buying my college supplies so my father says I'll get mine in Sep possibly. So I'll see you then!
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dastin1015 said:
Currently the only available way is the revolutionary.io way. There are guides in the Android Development section for the 3D that gives you step by step help with obtaining S-OFF then root. Also when flashing your first recovery image I recommend the hboot flashed TWRP recovery, as you get more options. Basically the steps are 1) Obtain S-OFF 2) Flash a recovery 3) Flash superuser zip to obtain root 4) Reboot and enjoy your new rooted Evo 3D. After that it is up to you what you want to do.
I can't wait to get my 3D, but currently any money I have is going towards buying my college supplies so my father says I'll get mine in Sep possibly. So I'll see you then!
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Ok man sounds Good! Thanx for the Help!
PM, thanks for all your hard work, you've helped keep the Heroc alive & kicking waaaay longer than I think anyone dreamed of.
Don't feel guilty about putting it aside for better technology, this is the way of things, the circle of tech as it were.
Enjoy your 3vo!
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PM, thanks for all your hard work, you've helped keep the Heroc alive & kicking waaaay longer than I think anyone dreamed of.
Don't feel guilty about putting it aside for better technology, this is the way of things, the circle of tech as it were.
Enjoy your 3vo!
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Thank you man!
God knows I've at least tried to do whatever I Could do to make sure Our Hero Still had a Heartbeat! Lol!
Hey by the way, If You or Anyone else that may read this Ever needs a Hand, Don't Hesitate to Shoot P.m. a PM! Lol...
Take Care!
Yeah, I need a hand ***** slapping some people in the 3D forum.
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Yeah, I need a hand ***** slapping some people in the 3D forum.
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Way too many damn trolls, flamers and clueless noobs in those forums. Thank God for Operation Iron Fist being put into effect.
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Yeah, I need a hand ***** slapping some people in the 3D forum.
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Well I am, and Always will be a Proud O.G. Hero Gangsta! Lol... Why are the people in the 3D forums Jerks when it comes to Helping others? Hope Not!
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Way too many damn trolls, flamers and clueless noobs in those forums. Thank God for Operation Iron Fist being put into effect.
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I hear ya on that. You know it's bad when you start to reply to a question to correct someone, and halfway you're like, ''Forget it. Tired of this crap.''
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Well I am, and Always will be a Proud O.G. Hero Gangsta! Lol...
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Hell yeah!
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Well I am, and Always will be a Proud O.G. Hero Gangsta! Lol... Why are the people in the 3D forums Jerks when it comes to Helping others?
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New people I guess. Some come with a sense of entitlement and zero patients. You remember how long it took just to get our Hero development working and the massive understanding from users with the developers? Roms are not shake and bake. The cluttered ones thing so over there. But I digress.
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I hear ya on that. You know it's bad when you start to reply to a question to correct someone, and halfway you're like, ''Forget it. Tired of this crap.''
Hell yeah!
New people I guess. Some come with a sense of entitlement and zero patients. You remember how long it took just to get our Hero development working and the massive understanding from users with the developers? Roms are not shake and bake. The cluttered ones thing so over there. But I digress.
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Lmao....
The 3D is still fairly New, So I guess like with the Hero it comes with the territory! But I'm with you man its Frustrating as Hell... when you have to deal with the Know it All Idiots! Especially when a good percentage of them really Don't have a clue at all! Lol!
Well if you ever need Anything man Dont Hesitate... If I can Help in Anyway man, I Will!
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Lmao....
The 3D is still fairly New, So I guess like with the Hero it comes with the territory! But I'm with you man its Frustrating as Hell... when you have to deal with the Know it All Idiots! Especially when a good percentage of them really Don't have a clue at all! Lol!
Well if you ever need Anything man Dont Hesitate... If I can Help in Anyway man, I Will!
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I very much recommend that you DO NOT take the new OTA on your Evo 3D when you get it. THE OTA PATCHES THE ROOT AND S-OFF PROCEDURES. So when you get your phone, confirm you have an hboot under 1.5 and also that you are on Android 2.3.3 not 2.3.4. If you are 2.3.4, you can't get root right now. My brother just got the OTA and I've been reading around and heard it breaks root and root procedures.
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I very much recommend that you DO NOT take the new OTA on your Evo 3D when you get it. THE OTA PATCHES THE ROOT AND S-OFF PROCEDURES. So when you get your phone, confirm you have an hboot under 1.5 and also that you are on Android 2.3.3 not 2.3.4. If you are 2.3.4, you can't get root right now. My brother just got the OTA and I've been reading around and heard it breaks root and root procedures.
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Yeah? Ok man Good to know! Thanx for the Insight!
Do you know if its Possible to Root the 3D Without actually Activating it? In other words Sprints sending it to me in the mail, so is it Possible to Root it Before Activation, and then Still Activate it by Phone?
I don't see why not. The root doesn't break any of the core installation and activation files.
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I don't see why not. The root doesn't break any of the core installation and activation files.
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I tried looking a bit for the Best or should I say Easiest method and I'm leaning towards the Revolutionary process! And It's asking for my Serial number... Do you know How to Find it?
I tried... But for some reason the Serial# Read All Zeros 000000000!
NEVERMIND... I ROOTED IT! YESIRRR!!
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NEVERMIND... I ROOTED IT! YESIRRR!!
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Have fun with your ROOTED EVO 3D lol Your ROM was always one of my favorites dude it just sucks that you never got the camera to work but o well who cares Show them Trolling EVO 3D bastards how to develope real custom roms!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
All credit goes to techno update thread mentions that this is not only for evo deisgn but could be for anyone so curious if anyone is willing to try this thought about it but haven't made the dive yet..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
All credit goes to techno update thread mentions that this is not only for evo deisgn but could be for anyone so curious if anyone is willing to try this thought about it but haven't made the dive yet..
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We already have a method to unlock that 99% of other users can figure out... There is no sense in trying to re-invent the wheel...
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haven't seen one that works on the lastest ota and gets s off with root?? unless i am really missing something..
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haven't seen one that works on the lastest ota and gets s off with root?? unless i am really missing something..
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You are really missing something... None of the evo shift users used the htc unlock tool to root our phones... Kinda weird we all got it to work...
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lol thanks man i was a little unfamiliar with the htc enviorment i did finally get it to work after days and days of research and help from you guys it was a hell of a proccess for me anyway but i got it to work thanks so much!!!!! now i can start flashing the [email protected]#$ out of this puppy!!
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lol thanks man i was a little unfamiliar with the htc enviorment i did finally get it to work after days and days of research and help from you guys it was a hell of a proccess for me anyway but i got it to work thanks so much!!!!! now i can start flashing the [email protected]#$ out of this puppy!!
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Finally got rooted huh? after all this time of banging our head against the computer desk.
Looked at that thread and I see "Thank you Evil DevNull for the Evil icon! And for being a cool ass dude" that name is like the devil in the shift section