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hey guys. i have been the proud papa of a tmobile wing for the last month. i haven't been a member here for very long, but you guys are awesome. unfortunetly i have to give up my Wing as i got notified yesterday that i will be going overseas shortly. rather than wait to the last minute i figuered someone might be able to love my wing as much as i do while it is still fairly new. it really is in MINT condition. i clean it everyday, its always in its holster, never dropped it, or dinged it, or anything. It pretty much is new. It would probably help to let you guys know I am military. So I will be gone for a little over a year and then be coming back. I didn’t want my phone sitting there while I was gone. I hope someone can help me find a home for my Wing. Im letting it go for 300-250 or OBO. i paid about 350 a month ago. thanks
hey you got ripped off then if you paid 350 for it a month ago , i got my wing two months ago and gave dem this promotion code " windows mobile" and got my wing for 80 bucks and a free blue tooth.
Call T-Mobile Business Direct at 866-464-8662. Push 3.
Give them the promotion code "Windows Mobile" (yes that is the promotion code).
Say no to text plans, internet plans, phone insurance and accessories.
Phone is $99.99 with $50 rebate = $49.99.
Free Shipping, Activation fees waived, 1 year contract
what if i wanted to get 2 or 3 of the wings onto a family plan could i still get it for $50 and get unlimited family text for $20 dollars a month and have no activation fee? because on letstalk.com i can get all of that except the activation fee
I smeel a very common scam
even though the phone cost supposedly $50 you are still paying tmobile around $1000 after a year (assuming you have to get a data plan with the phone)
t-mobile is eating the cost of the hardware because you are paying for it by signing the one year contract. it doesn:t mean that the wing itself is worth $50.
doesnt sound like a scam to me at all, if you look in classified ads they go for 2-300 easy...
Just sim unlock it thru tmobile and take it with you.
natxtc said:
even though the phone cost supposedly $50 you are still paying tmobile around $1000 after a year (assuming you have to get a data plan with the phone)
t-mobile is eating the cost of the hardware because you are paying for it by signing the one year contract. it doesn:t mean that the wing itself is worth $50.
doesnt sound like a scam to me at all, if you look in classified ads they go for 2-300 easy...
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Not really "$1000 after a year"; I got mine last Oct as the 3rd line to my family plan, and I paid $49 AR for the phone and $10/mon for the add'l line. So after year it's ~$200 for everything combined.
If you buy an EVO 4g off craigslist for the price they are selling them for, you deserve it. I think it'd be cheaper to buy it on a new line for 199.99 and take the ETF.. LOL
all the ones around the atlanta area were for around $650... I think I can wait a week and get mine for $199.
However, I can't say it didn't cross my mind to bust out my check book.
I wish I could just put myself into a cryogenic sleep for 10 days.
... on a side note, that might be the nerdiest, most pathetic thing I've ever said.
There's more of a cost than just ETF, taxes, etc...
I got mine pretty cheap, cheaper than the $199 cost + ETF, so for me anyway I won at your logic..
Plus if you get one of the I/O phones, you get an extra $10 off your monthly cost (which they don't list it as a year or two year thing either...) because it's a dev phone.
Tenny said:
There's more of a cost than just ETF, taxes, etc...
I got mine pretty cheap, cheaper than the $199 cost + ETF, so for me anyway I won at your logic..
Plus if you get one of the I/O phones, you get an extra $10 off your monthly cost (which they don't list it as a year or two year thing either...) because it's a dev phone.
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where'd you get one for less then 199???????????/ tell me plzzzzzzz
people paying like 6bills heck even 7 are the dumb ones..
Someone here in Orange County was selling his boyfriend's for 350, he said he got it for a tech blog to review and just needed to get rid of it. Don't think they knew how much it really was worth. D;
notown775 said:
where'd you get one for less then 199???????????/ tell me plzzzzzzz
people paying like 6bills heck even 7 are the dumb ones..
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$199 + ETF is not less than $199.
I myself am going a route that is not to be discussed on this forum... but I don't want to buy a phone for $450 + Taxes (around here it's roughly 10%), so in the end it'd have been close to $500. So instead of that, I paid less than $400 with a free month of service (including 4g, and the option to go the dev plan route later).
But yes, $600-700 is too much, but there's a decent amount of people out there with more money than time. Just like Wii, iPhone, etc.
I paid 500 for mine straight up, new in box. After having it a week I will say it was worth every penny! This is the device I have been waiting for all my life.
i'm excited for the phone, but you guys are like fiending for it... the device you've been waiting for all your life?
I got mine for $500. It is out for delivery right now. The anticipation is killing me!
None listed for my area but I can wait some people are flipping out to get it early
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TheBiles said:
I got mine for $500. It is out for delivery right now. The anticipation is killing me!
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Same here. I'm not remotely eligible for upgrade yet, so I'd be paying $450 + tax for it anyway. $500 for the phone and getting in on the $10 off via the Google I/O dev deal is worth it!
Assuming that we stick with the fad here - the Epic 4g will be $199 on first line contract pricing. Do you all think its safe to assume the $599.99 price tag for a full retail price?
I'm curious because I will most likely make this my next phone the day it is rooted and don't have an upgrade to use on it.
Before I decide, I wan't to see Quadrant/linpac/benchmark Pi scores before I buy - I have every suspicion that it will beat/match everything else on the market with the GPU it has in it. SuperAMOLED will be nice as well.
why pay retail? Just get someone you know who worships an iphone to buy one on contract. Have them end the contract the next day (pay the $200 ETF) and give them the $400 to cover their cost. Save yourself $200. Never understood why these phones have inflated prices on ebay and stuff. When i was low on cash last year, i did this repeatedly and got hundreds a week on craigslist. There are so many ways to legally make money in this world for those that want it. If you don't, somebody else will. I could write a book with the crap I've learned through the years.
orateam said:
why pay retail? Just get someone you know who worships an iphone to buy one on contract. Have them end the contract the next day (pay the $200 ETF) and give them the $400 to cover their cost. Save yourself $200. Never understood why these phones have inflated prices on ebay and stuff. When i was low on cash last year, i did this repeatedly and got hundreds a week on craigslist. There are so many ways to legally make money in this world for those that want it. If you don't, somebody else will. I could write a book with the crap I've learned through the years.
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Don't you have to pay the deposit and I'm pretty sure you have to pay the first months bill even if you cancel out.. that's about $125 for the deposit and likely about $120 or so for the first month.
no deposit on a contract phone. If you cancel the next day, at worst, you'll pay pro-rated amount of contract (69+10)/30 or about $2.60.
orateam said:
no deposit on a contract phone. If you cancel the next day, at worst, you'll pay pro-rated amount of contract (69+10)/30 or about $2.60.
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Not true, I almost went for the HTC Hero back in November and I paid the $125 deposit. It depends on your credit, I have zero.
Yet somehow I still have a 680 dollar bill at Verizon for 2 BB Storm 2's I bought and returned within my 30 days...I am taking them to court over it. Either way.
I don't mind paying retail for it, just curious what it is going to be.
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I am taking them to court over it.
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Hope you get lots of money from them for their stupidity. You should get more then just the refunded $680, they should pay all the legal fees and plus extra for wasting your time.
Retail for all (high end) Sprint PDAs should be $450 for the time being. EVO, Blackberry Bold, the Epic.
I just got off the phone with a sprint rep and she informed me that even If I pay full price for the phone I still qualify for the $100 rebate since it’s a manufacturing rebate. I thought that rebate only applied to new or upgrading customers. Now I know she WORKS for sprint and she should know the correct answer, but I have such little faith in them. Does anyone here know if that information is correct? The reason I ask is because I was thinking about ordering it from Amazon, but if I'm still eligible for the $100 rebate I might as well get it from sprint since I would be paying the same price anyway, and getting a $100 back in a couple months.
Since it’s a manufacturing rebate, should it matter where I purchased the phone from to get the rebate?
look at the rebate form. It will say what the conditions to it are, and it usually says with a two year contract. If the rebate goes to Samsung then maybe, but usually they are a generic Sprint rebate where you check off what phone you have.
example: http://shop.sprint.com/assets/pdfs/en/promotions/mir_091110.pdf
I thought everyone was elidgible for the $100 mail-in, but the instant $150 or $75 was dependant on your contract? Could be wrong..
Here you go
Hello all,
I am new to these forums and I am still a little confused about the mail in rebate. I am at my 1 year 75 doller upgrade and wondering if I am entitled to the $100 mir. if i sign a new 2 year contract.. I am confused because I have one sprint store tellng me you only get it with a 2 year 150 upgrade and I have another store telling me you get it on a 1 year upgrade as long as you sign a new 2 year contract... Who is correct?
If I am reading correctly it seems you get a $100 mir on a the 1 year $75 upgrade signing a new 2 year contract..
Thanks all for your assistance..much appreciated..
Alex
vooman said:
Hello all,
I am new to these forums and I am still a little confused about the mail in rebate. I am at my 1 year 75 doller upgrade and wondering if I am entitled to the $100 mir. if i sign a new 2 year contract.. I am confused because I have one sprint store tellng me you only get it with a 2 year 150 upgrade and I have another store telling me you get it on a 1 year upgrade as long as you sign a new 2 year contract... Who is correct?
If I am reading correctly it seems you get a $100 mir on a the 1 year $75 upgrade signing a new 2 year contract..
Thanks all for your assistance..much appreciated..
Alex
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I thought that as well... I really hope that is the case.
Don't listen to anything a Sprint rep says. That's one thing I learned when I was with Sprint under 30 days with the EVO and when I emailed them asking why the tv-out feature is removed from the Epic 4G. I swear they have apes working there. I sent a detailed email about what tv-out does on the other Galaxy S devices, and the reply I got from Sprint was informing me of Sprint TV. What a bunch of fools
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Here you go
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its says 2 year contract for new and upgrading customers. so that means if you are existing customer, you shouldnt need that.
I'm going to give it a shot, well worth the cost of a stamp.
For me its more about not wanting to spend $425 for the phone.. I dont mind paying that up front as long as I am getting the $100 mail in rebate.. I really want the phone but not at $425... I hope I am entitled to the rebate like the one store is telling me..
vooman said:
Hello all,
I am new to these forums and I am still a little confused about the mail in rebate. I am at my 1 year 75 doller upgrade and wondering if I am entitled to the $100 mir. if i sign a new 2 year contract.. I am confused because I have one sprint store tellng me you only get it with a 2 year 150 upgrade and I have another store telling me you get it on a 1 year upgrade as long as you sign a new 2 year contract... Who is correct?
If I am reading correctly it seems you get a $100 mir on a the 1 year $75 upgrade signing a new 2 year contract..
Thanks all for your assistance..much appreciated..
Alex
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The rebate is not available with the $75 upgrade
vooman said:
For me its more about not wanting to spend $425 for the phone.. I dont mind paying that up front as long as I am getting the $100 mail in rebate.. I really want the phone but not at $425... I hope I am entitled to the rebate like the one store is telling me..
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How would you get the phone for $425?
nismology said:
How would you get the phone for $425?
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With his $75 upgrade but the $75 upgrade does not include mail in rebates, it's just $75 towards a phone, nothing else
Today I was unhappy to see that AT&T is raising insurance and deductible rates, significantly starting I believe the flyer said October 1st.
Old pricing:
$4.99/mo
$125 deductible
New pricing:
$6.99/mo
$199 deductible
Anyone else ditching their insurance?
Interesting rant on the AT&T forums about the iPhone insurance:
"I have just recently purchased an iPhone 3GS and procured insurance through Asurion. My bill: $11.99/month - $99/deduct - 24hr delivery.
As of September of 2011, ALL iPhone users will be forced to convert to AT&T's "new" iPhone insurance plan, (equal to that of Asurion's current coverage) if they want desirable coverage (including theft and water damage). The only problem with that is this: in October of 2011, the monthly rate will INCREASE from $4.99 to $6.99 and the deductible will be $199.99 for ALL iPhone models, even those that were not previously in the third tier (3G and 3GS). So, not only does AT&T have the audacity to raise their rates in an economically troubled time, they also slap us in the face before they bend us over with the $199.99 deduct when it was originally just under half of that.
I am very displeased with this insurance scam AT&T has going. It is ridiculous that we have to keep paying MORE for the same crappy and under-educated service we've been dealing with for years. I have been an AT&T wireless customer since I got my first cell phone and have not been with another carrier, but what choice do we have if we want the "best". Well, this could very well be my last venture with AT&T, if something isn't done about this insurance scam. I' expect to pay something for a refurb replacement, but not 2/3 of the retail value (again, for a refurb) when I also pay the monthly fee.
Insurance Scam Equation:
iPhone 3GS in-store retail (new) - $449
iPhone 3GS online retail (refurb) - from $300
12 months insurance (under 12 month factory warranty) - $84
iPhone deductible - $199
$199
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$283
$283 replacement with insurance.
$300 replacement without insurance.
So what's the deal here... or better yet, WHERE'S the deal? I'm saving a measly $17 dollars by paying monthly to AT&T for more headache than ever needed, especially when I can go buy one over the net with no headaches (next day shipping available) for the same price.... It would be more worth it if it was a NEW phone and not a refurb, but in almost all cases you're going to get a refurb. Sorry AT&T, I just don't get it. The only way this would ever be worth it is if I was to break my phone twice in 12 months, then I'd be saving a little more, but not enough to have any real meaning."
Also you can see the following:
http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/12/att-raises-iphone-device-tier-on-october-4th-perhaps-signaling-launch-date/
This may not be all AT&T either from what I'm reading. I wonder how much of it is Asurion Insurance. I for one will be ditching coverage on my phone and my wife's phone. We'll keep the lower insurance for the kids phones though!
gzrecoil said:
Today I was unhappy to see that AT&T is raising insurance and deductible rates, significantly starting I believe the flyer said October 1st.
Old pricing:
$4.99/mo
$125 deductible
New pricing:
$6.99/mo
$199 deductible
Anyone else ditching their insurance?
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Yea complete $h1t, dropped my insurance. Everyone else should, maybe they'l move it back.
People probably bricking more phones than they anticipated!
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People probably bricking more phones than they anticipated!
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Truth
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Pay full price for phones. I bet you don't need insurance then. Or get through your own insurance. About a year ago I priced it and it was a little over $80 for a year coverage and $50 deductible. But that was about a year ago.
Sent from the coolest voided warranty phone ever.
Best Buy's is $9.99 per month, but with no deductible. It doesn't cover theft or "sub-merged" water damage but it covers pretty much everything else.
I prefer it because of the no deductible.
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I'm going to start "losing" my phone. According to my friend who is a district manager of att stores in my area, if you report your phone "lost," not stolen, they will send you a brand new phone as opposed to a refurbished one. You can report a phone lost twice a year. So figure, lose it, sell on craigslist, make $100 or so, get a new phone...repeat. I felt bad at first, but now hearing about this I feel as though its justified. An eye for an eye
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I'm going to start "losing" my phone. According to my friend who is a district manager of att stores in my area, if you report your phone "lost," not stolen, they will send you a brand new phone as opposed to a refurbished one. You can report a phone lost twice a year. So figure, lose it, sell on craigslist, make $100 or so, get a new phone...repeat. I felt bad at first, but now hearing about this I feel as though its justified. An eye for an eye
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and this is where everybody should thank you for feeling bad at first and then not.
cmccollough said:
I'm going to start "losing" my phone. According to my friend who is a district manager of att stores in my area, if you report your phone "lost," not stolen, they will send you a brand new phone as opposed to a refurbished one. You can report a phone lost twice a year. So figure, lose it, sell on craigslist, make $100 or so, get a new phone...repeat. I felt bad at first, but now hearing about this I feel as though its justified. An eye for an eye
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Disgusting.
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It may depend on how much you owe on breaking contract. The reality is if you have to fork out cash for a new phone you may as well go to another carrier and purchase a new phone......giving a free phone can keep them from losing a customer. Especially if they are giving you a new phone (same model) which is something you owned for 1.5 years that has depreciated in value anyways.
Yet for repairs and theft its better off to force the OEM to fix with warranty.... or fill out legal paperwork for reporting stolen property. In either of these cases its better to let ATT stand back and let somebody else fix the problem.
I have spoken with account cancellation services at ATT many times with the intention of striking a deal by merely pointing (politely) out the cost of going to another carrier is less than my current options....they are always willing to accomodate.
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I'm going to start "losing" my phone. According to my friend who is a district manager of att stores in my area, if you report your phone "lost," not stolen, they will send you a brand new phone as opposed to a refurbished one. You can report a phone lost twice a year. So figure, lose it, sell on craigslist, make $100 or so, get a new phone...repeat. I felt bad at first, but now hearing about this I feel as though its justified. An eye for an eye
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You know that's insurance fraud right?
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cmccollough said:
I'm going to start "losing" my phone. According to my friend who is a district manager of att stores in my area, if you report your phone "lost," not stolen, they will send you a brand new phone as opposed to a refurbished one. You can report a phone lost twice a year. So figure, lose it, sell on craigslist, make $100 or so, get a new phone...repeat. I felt bad at first, but now hearing about this I feel as though its justified. An eye for an eye
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This is why our rates are going up.... thanks alot!!!
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I wonder if this is related to the [potential] eventual AT&T-sanctioned unlocking of the Atrix bootloader?
I think it may also be due to the fact that an lte ATRIX is likely on the way...perhaps a launch phone for AT&T lte... would basicly be a cut/paste of the bionic.
Makes sense, once lte launches on AT&T any lte phone will also do hspa +... I expect it by the end of the year. And all of the people that purchased the original ATRIX may begin looking for a way out/upgrade....etc
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CaelanT said:
Interesting rant on the AT&T forums about the iPhone insurance:
"I have just recently purchased an iPhone 3GS and procured insurance through Asurion. My bill: $11.99/month - $99/deduct - 24hr delivery.
As of September of 2011, ALL iPhone users will be forced to convert to AT&T's "new" iPhone insurance plan, (equal to that of Asurion's current coverage) if they want desirable coverage (including theft and water damage). The only problem with that is this: in October of 2011, the monthly rate will INCREASE from $4.99 to $6.99 and the deductible will be $199.99 for ALL iPhone models, even those that were not previously in the third tier (3G and 3GS). So, not only does AT&T have the audacity to raise their rates in an economically troubled time, they also slap us in the face before they bend us over with the $199.99 deduct when it was originally just under half of that.
I am very displeased with this insurance scam AT&T has going. It is ridiculous that we have to keep paying MORE for the same crappy and under-educated service we've been dealing with for years. I have been an AT&T wireless customer since I got my first cell phone and have not been with another carrier, but what choice do we have if we want the "best". Well, this could very well be my last venture with AT&T, if something isn't done about this insurance scam. I' expect to pay something for a refurb replacement, but not 2/3 of the retail value (again, for a refurb) when I also pay the monthly fee.
Insurance Scam Equation:
iPhone 3GS in-store retail (new) - $449
iPhone 3GS online retail (refurb) - from $300
12 months insurance (under 12 month factory warranty) - $84
iPhone deductible - $199
$199
+$84
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$283
$283 replacement with insurance.
$300 replacement without insurance.
So what's the deal here... or better yet, WHERE'S the deal? I'm saving a measly $17 dollars by paying monthly to AT&T for more headache than ever needed, especially when I can go buy one over the net with no headaches (next day shipping available) for the same price.... It would be more worth it if it was a NEW phone and not a refurb, but in almost all cases you're going to get a refurb. Sorry AT&T, I just don't get it. The only way this would ever be worth it is if I was to break my phone twice in 12 months, then I'd be saving a little more, but not enough to have any real meaning."
Also you can see the following:
http://9to5mac.com/2011/07/12/att-raises-iphone-device-tier-on-october-4th-perhaps-signaling-launch-date/
This may not be all AT&T either from what I'm reading. I wonder how much of it is Asurion Insurance. I for one will be ditching coverage on my phone and my wife's phone. We'll keep the lower insurance for the kids phones though!
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1st The replacement is not a refurb but a new device (Iphones).
2nd It is Asurion, as the current coverage is $11.99 through them.And the deductible is actually $199 already with Mobile Protect. So for the IPhone it is actually lowering in price , SIGNIFICANTLY!!
3rd the 12 month warranty does not cover Loss/Theft. Lose your phone 3 months after purchasing it. What options do you have??
Of course the 3g/3gs are bit tough due to then original cost BUT for the IPhone 4 it is better than $450 to do an Early Upgrade and that is only after 6 months from upgrading/activating.
4th You always have the option of finding your own coverage through a 3rd party not affiliated with Asurion and AT&T (i.e State farm or Square Trade.)
BTW The insurance monthly rate will be $6.99 for all devices starting Oct. 1st. same $50 deductile for basic devices, $125 for advanced devices and $199 for IPhones.
Not to ruffle feathers of any kind but just wanted to clarify this.
Hey, does this count as a material change to the contract? i.e. get out of contract free?
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BTW The insurance monthly rate will be $6.99 for all devices starting Oct. 1st. same $50 deductile for basic devices, $125 for advanced devices and $199 for IPhones.
Not to ruffle feathers of any kind but just wanted to clarify this.
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I just got off the phone with AT&T Enterprise. The date for insurance change is October 4th, not October 1st. Also, this will not be limited to the iPhone regarding the tier change. The AT&T system does not yet show which phones will change to tier 3, but this information will be available on or before October 4th. So, it could be very likely the Atrix along with other smartphones will be added to the new tier.
http://mobileprotectionpack.att.com/pricing-enrollment.html
Also not trying to ruffle feathers.............just clarifying on an incorrect clarification!
Instead of the "insurance fraud route" *rolls eyes*
It would probably be much better to look into something like Squaretrade. They constantly float 30% discounts around.
Current code today is SUMMER ... (Max discount $30 per warranty)
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I thought without insurance to cost to replace a phone is the full non-contract price. If so, that $283 vs $300 comparison is incorrect.