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Hello guys, I'm having a couple of issues with my GSM Hero...and i have several doubts...if you can help me i will be most thankful.
#1 - how to enter recovery mode on my GSM Hero ? i press home+power and the triangle comes up, after that...nothing... shouldn't there be some options ?
#2 - can i load the official 2.1 European update without being by FOTA (don't forget i don't have root please!)
#3 - is there any RUU .exe with the official 2.1 European update?
#4 - I've flashed my European GSM Hero from 2.73.405.5 to the Taiwanese Chunghwa 3.31.751.1 to get 2.1 and it worked.Now I wish to go to WWE versions and it gives me error 141 incorrect id or something like that, how can i revert back to WWE?
I'm sorry for so many questions, but I don't know what else to do, the phone is unrooted and working perfectly with the 2.1 chungwa version, but since 2.1 has came out in Europe,I wan't to install the European version of it ans replace the Asian.
I've google it in every forum i could found so far on android devices, I've done several attempts, I've red like hell but no results so far. Any help is highly appreciated.
Sorry for my English, I'm from Portugal.
Bom dia casca, penso que o caminho a seguir é fazer downgrade para a versão RUU HTC Generic 2.73.405.5 e a partir dai deixar actualizar por FOTA ou por rom 2.1 com root...
Mais ajuda ? vai ao site androidpt
Wasup! i've been already on androidpt also and haven't seen anything about this.
the problem is I'm not able to load 2.73.405.5 again due to an error 140/141 that says something like bootloader error or id error, something like that...
you've got PM
i don't understand how it works for all of your Gsm Hero users, but...
Solution to question 1
for me to enter the recovery on the Hero I had to press vol.down+power, choose recovery, and when in "triangle mode" (lol) vol.up + power. that way I can use the android system recovery and apply an update.zip from the sdcard.
Solution to question 2
I think so. Will certainly report back to avoid that others have to suffer like I did to find the answer (you have no idea of the time I've spent on the last days reading forums for a simple thing like question 1...no one even cared to reply or say "hey,try this") I know a lot of people done the same thing I did with the hurry of seeing 2.1 on their Hero's.
Solution to question 3
Not yet, and probably won't be.
Solution to question 4
I will let you know. I will use the official update.zip that can be found here on XDA, with the android system recovery and give it a go.
Regards to you all.
You will have to downgrade first, possible chance you need to use the goldcard method. Once you have downgraded you can eitha get the update via OTA or apply one of the WWE update.zip ROMS via recovery.
I had to use the goldcard method to go from WWE 2.73.405.5 RUU to Chunghwa 3.31.(something)(their 2.1 official)
but to downgrade back to 2.73.405.5 even with the goldcard, it doesn't work for me.
It always gave incorrect bootloader or something like that even with the goldcard.
Thanks for your reply!
casca said:
I had to use the goldcard method to go from WWE 2.73.405.5 RUU to Chunghwa 3.31.(something)(their 2.1 official)
but to downgrade back to 2.73.405.5 even with the goldcard, it doesn't work for me.
It always gave incorrect bootloader or something like that even with the goldcard.
Thanks for your reply!
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Can you still access android recovery ?
andrewb84uk said:
Can you still access android recovery ?
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yes I can, no problem with that since I now figured it out what is the correct key combinations...so simple and yet so hard to find...
Did you try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559613
I am not sure, but I think it can help you downgrade and then you can install the new update (or better yet just use it to flash a rooted ROM based on the official version...).
Tks,tried it already but flashrec doesn't work with that rom
Sorry, you flashed the Chungwa 2.1 so now cannot install this one. You were warned...
You cannot downgrade as the RUU updates misc with your main version, OTA doesn't.
Just wait patiently for an RUU of the WWE 2.1
42turkeys said:
Sorry, you flashed the Chungwa 2.1 so now cannot install this one. You were warned...
You cannot downgrade as the RUU updates misc with your main version, OTA doesn't.
Just wait patiently for an RUU of the WWE 2.1
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that's what i thought...have to wait for the RUU...my question is...will it ever exist? usually HTC has them at the same time they annouce a new rom...this time it was separated in 2 updates...
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that's what i thought...have to wait for the RUU...my question is...will it ever exist? usually HTC has them at the same time they annouce a new rom...this time it was separated in 2 updates...
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It will come out eventually.
The first update was only to get your recovery ready for the update.
I confirm, even through recovery it didn't work.When doing the apply sd card update.zip through recovery, it gives installation aborted after a while....Do you think i should make a Goldcard and try again with the same method?
another question...where should i be looking for the RUU file for the WWE 2.1?
edit: found... www.shipped-roms.com
Hi everyone. I'm a brand new owner of a T-mobile htc HD2.
UPS delivered today. But prior to receiving the phone I've been
reading alot of reviews, specially here in this amazing site.
After gathering all the information I could, still decided to go ahead
and get this wonderful looking phone, although I believe a
different ROM is defenitely needed (already seen 2 I like, Elegancia and
Energy - perhaps theres a few more to take into consideration).
Now here are my concerns.
1.-I'll be using the phone in the Dominican Republic. Do I need some type
of jailbreak for the phone to work there? It hasnt been activated here in
the U.S. It's a brand new phone in the box.
2.How do I go about installing the ROM? What would be the absolute first step?
Is there a guide?
Thank you in advance for your time and answers.
(please forgive my english).
Saludos eduardo...felicitaciones has adquirido un buen telefono, sobre las guias aqui Guia para novatospodras encontrar las instrucciones etc....saludos
Professionals should try to phone a friend wildfire htccn chs2.10.1400.3 foryo 2.2 the root should have about 2 months now that I'm looking for this program and no one has been able to implement it
Methods that have been tested and have failed
Methods that have been tested and have failed
Using programs unrEVOked
Using r1-buzz-root program that works adb
And a test file and transferred to the phone after installing the update file is root Phones
Application SuperOneClickv1.5.4-ShortFuse
Or file transfer recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.1-buzz and its conversion to update.zip file after turning off the phone and then went to bootloder part of recovery but this was not the answer
And several other solutions that unfortunately none of them led to my phone not being root
Which is why I am overwhelmed and I ask you help on this matter I hope someone can help me to
How many times must people ask this? There is still currently no way to root the chinese froyo you just simply have to wait for unrevoked to release a new version. I'm just wondering why you guys upgraded to this without reading and searching first
For information
The posts to this for the friends who've specialized in terms of Nrf hacked phone software and operating system are professional action to release new software and put it in this post should
a2soleimani said:
The posts to this for the friends who've specialized in terms of Nrf hacked phone software and operating system are professional action to release new software and put it in this post should
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erm... what?
i'll just say this again, NO YOU CANNOT ROOT IT YET. big deal it's been 2 months, maybe they haven't updated it yet because 1. they're still working on it, or 2. because they don't have enough time. 3. learn to be paitient, ppl like you annoy me so badly.
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erm... what?
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I just thought the same.
try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
should work with your rom, if not: leave note to developper
Zorkman said:
try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
should work with your rom, if not: leave note to developper
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Have you tested this solution is that it works? thank you
Confirmed working by this method..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
double_ofour said:
Confirmed working by this method..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
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Confirmed working by this method with htccn chs2.10.1400.3 foryo 2.2 ??? I have big problem with this rom and my wildfire...
I'm too
The china rom have nothing to use.
Who can help me.
No working. I did try. Installed, showing completed, automatically reboot, but nothing happend
sort of working, gives root but not recovery option. root explorer can use r/w option
what can we do with softroot? and how do we know rooted? Thanks
tuanvo1982 said:
what can we do with softroot? and how do we know rooted? Thanks
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mostly nothing, run progs what need root i guess
solution hboot 0.83 to 0.80 de froyo chino
z4root luego rom manager luego com.speedsoftware.rootexplorer.v.2.12.3.apk
en rootexplorer entrar y dar r/w en los archivos no se en cual seguro que lo hecho sin saber que functiona pero bueno.luego copiar pc49img en la raiz de la tarjeta de memoria (tarjeta sera de oro) rebot in hboot mode y a mi a functionado
donot work
I do not think you z4root program to work because the new version of the program it was announced that 1.2.1 that is used for non-Wildfire
z4root 1.2.0 solo hace roor no da opcion de recovery pero seguir con rot manager in final accepta recovery con inagen original pc 49img.zip en la raiz sd
ionel_lili said:
z4root 1.2.0 solo hace roor no da opcion de recovery pero seguir con rot manager in final accepta recovery con inagen original pc 49img.zip en la raiz sd
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this is an english forum, english please
Good afternoon everyone, after all these months waiting for the official update to the Android 2.2 Froyo Galaxy3 i5800L of Brazil, I learned via email from a company that galaxy3 of Brazil will not be updated in the official version, what do shows how much the company is concerned about their customers, treating us like fools.
Here is mine indignation regístrate and email in Portuguese speaking on the subject
Sr. XXXXX,
Em atenção ao seu e-mail informamos que o Galaxy 3 não terá atualização para Android 2.2.
Desde já agradecemos sua compreensão.
Atenciosamente,
Samsung Eletronics
Serviço de Atendimento ao Consumidor
Telefone: 4004-0000
Mr. XXXXX,
In response to your e-mail reported that the Galaxy will have 3 update for Android 2.2.
We appreciate your understanding.
Sincerely,
Samsung Electronics
Service Customer Service
Phone: 4004-0000
Wdconta said:
Mr. XXXXX,
In response to your e-mail reported that the Galaxy will have 3 update for Android 2.2.
We appreciate your understanding.
Sincerely,
Samsung Electronics
Service Customer Service
Phone: 4004-0000
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"Galaxy will have 3 update for Android 2.2".. Haha.
Well you can just flash any stock or custom ROM.
Yes but there are two reasons for the complaint, they promised to upgrade the first and second does not exist with with PT-BR.
Wdconta said:
Yes but there are two reasons for the complaint, they promised to upgrade the first and second does not exist with with PT-BR.
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Aah Samsung Customer Support guys are a bunch of losers who don t even know "A" of android. So don t listen to them. Maybe they will release it sometime in the future.
In the meantime there are very good stock and custom ROMs available here in XDA. Just use them.
thanks for the tips, but will try and return the device to request the return, because the company was a promise unfulfilled.
the worst is to see that in other countries like Europe, they are already looking to upgrade to 2.3.3, and beg in Brazil by 2.2, so the parents somo of the third world really, with global social inequality
I'm from Brazil and I'm using in my Froyo Galaxy 3.
Preferred not to risk any custom ROM so I'm using xxjp4 xxjpq on my phone.
This is a very estable ROM and a little more fast.
Language Pt-pt
Se quiser ajuda em algo amigo, pode entrar em contato que te dou meu endereço de email via PM
I just posted to show discontent towards the Samsung I have in Brazil, to look away only by poor sales of the device
As for the custom rom I tried, but the GPS does not work well, it's taking too long and does not update fast.
Even using the gps fix gps opt
thanks
Como esta a função GPS do seu aparelho com a jp4?
vc retirou os boot´s? para atualizar?
Wdconta said:
Como esta a função GPS do seu aparelho com a jp4?
vc retirou os boot´s? para atualizar?
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plz english!...
samsung = filhos das pU***
rafadm said:
plz english!...
samsung = filhos das pU***
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Samsung sun of ***** in english so.
flash any custom or official rom from xda, official update is just a hoax, why wait for samsung and kies when you can do it by yourself, and there is a lower chance of bricking your phone. kies is more likely to f*uck up than you...
ka'cipeder said:
flash any custom or official rom from xda, official update is just a hoax, why wait for samsung and kies when you can do it by yourself, and there is a lower chance of bricking your phone. kies is more likely to f*uck up than you...
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The problem is:.....
Any rom, hasn´t language PT-BR, and my GPS be crazy, same use gps opt gps fix gps aid.
but the really problem is real don´t have PT-BR, so the maps speak english when i use navigator, and, in Brasil the 3º world, we speak PORTUGUESE.
i hope you understand me.... and escuse my english, cause google tradutor not open now......
well, thats a problem... i just googled a bit and it seems that there is no froyo rom with PT-BR language
ka'cipeder said:
well, thats a problem... i just googled a bit and it seems that there is no froyo rom with PT-BR language
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will it work I get a 2.2 rom and change the any useCSC and put CSC operator of my country because it seems that the CSC is the original configuration of the local unit and not the system he works, what do you think?
I don't know, maybe someone with more knowlege can answer this... but most of the stuff from 2.1 doesn't work in 2.2
EDIT: I have cyanogenmod7 on my phone, it is 2.3.4 gingerbread, it does have PT-BR in languages (and lots of others), BUT its still in early stages of development so stuff like sensors, camera and video playback don't work YET. It's actually quite usable, i've been using it for a few weeks now and i'm stunned by how fast it is even after installing lots of apps. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101218
oh my god.......
Saw this today on an Chinese forum, this guy clames he found a solution to downgrade hboot 1.01 so you can S-OFF
I DID NOT TEST THIS BECAUSE I HAVE NO HTC LEGEND ANYMORE SO TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK
I truely hope this works as clamed for you legend users
And don't flame if it didn't work, as said before if I could I would of tested it before posting but I can't
It's translated by google but isn't easy to understand
Stated in other forums, reproduced, author of 367,175,652. Have little trouble themselves 6 is s-on.hboot1.01, can not change the first screen, the system can not remove the program. Today happened to see this post. To turn over. A master first experimental look feasible? Us a good suit. If the forum has the same post, please delete the administrator to help Um
recently felt fatigued on the G6, and want to change the first screen, I heard that as long as the S-OFF, or Gold on the line, I bought, it is the S-OFF, I excitedly in the past to replace it, and unfortunately did not succeed, show CID INCORRECT! this time I know I might get a white card machine, and hateful JS!
So determined to put forward their own true S-OFF, but did not expect this trial, spent a day before I finished fast (good thing I know some basic knowledge of LINUX, and BAIDU, GOOGLE great help of God), then release tutorials, and high HBOOT downgrade method, and the process of brush HBOOT to note, in particular, may be white card machine may encounter problems, I will do some shows.
Open brush:
1 First from http://alpharev.nl/, 1.8 ALPHAREV download mirror.
ps: the first, only supports HBOOT1.0 about, and as far as I know G6 eligible only HBOOT 0.43, it is generally not the HBOOT the need to consider a downgrade (downgrade tutorial I am going to write);
ROOT support only over the second The ROM (listen HTCDESIRE version of TX that best fitted BUSYBOX, but I do not mind this look myself); BUSYBOX Download: http://www.coolapk.com/download/apk/2755/stericson.busybox/
Third, it is best not to use open technologies like D2EXT ROM, the original best
2 this mirrored discs, CD or bootable USB can not do with a bootable USB-dials it, in fact, USB also very fast.
ps: remember to write in the mirror it BZIMAGE. into BZIMAGE, otherwise the time will be displayed with the boot disk can not find the bzImage.
3. The next step is to use boot disk to start the computer, then press operation on the computer screen can be a (and there are three steps, of which two steps are necessary hand speed, the tragedy of the G6 ah, I heard G7 can be fully automated, BS's, where the two steps mentioned in the note).
4 installation is complete, ROOT enjoy permanent happiness, saying that ugly clown picture).
Downgrade tutorial:
HBOOT1.01 the first students to download http://www.dkmdesign.dk/custom_roms/131/LEGEIMG.zip, then put it in the memory card, restart or shut down access to HBOOT interface (you can hold off the next volume keys, and then press the power button to start), HBOOT will automatically detect, verify the package, by asking whether the upgrade will, of course, select YES, and after brushing is HBOOT 0.43 a.
HBOOT1.00 students as far as I can not directly verify the downgrade (with heroes know, want to teach me), you need to upgrade to HBOOT1.01, then by the above method to downgrade. As for the upgrade to HBOOT1.01 is simple, as long as you install an original 2.2 ROM on it, attached here Download:
2.2 Hong Kong version of RUU: http://u.115.com/file/t5b1aab6bf
2.2 platform version RUU: http://u.115.com/file/t5e890140
Note:
1. If you can not detect your machine, please note that your machine is ROOT, ROOT does not please ROOT; If your machine has been also detected ROOT , you may hand the white card machine, and white card machine G6 brush ALPHAREV the ISO may not detect your machine, because it is detected inside the ALPHAREV.SH MID to test the machine, if you MID and the MID SH different default program will be treated as unable to support the machine, and can not brush. Because I do not know how to process the Brush screenshots so I can probably explain here under the general process of amending:
In ALPHAREV 1.8iso the ALPHAREV.SH, it is the default MID = PB7610000 to detect whether your machine is a LEGEND of If not, then sorry, your machine is not supported. But not worry, this can be changed, can not be detected in the computer display when your machine (I remember that English is YOUR PHONE IS NOT RECOGNIZED OR YOUR PHONE IS NOT SUPPORTED THIS TIME) while holding down the CTRL C, then the #,
then enter vialpharev.sh,
come in out of the picture, you can use PAGEDOWN, PAGEUP page down keys or turn the line, and then find the MID = PB7610000 this line, then press X to change it ALPHAREV detected at the beginning to your MID, hold down the SHIFT last colon, and finally press X, back to the terminal.
Finally, the terminal re-enter alpharev.sh, re-brush machine.
This time, your machine can be detected.
2 in Brush 3-step process, where the first two steps are necessary hand speed, the third step is automated, you just do not pull line or off, is generally not a brick, in theory, only the third step it may BRICK! The first two steps to pay attention when he appeared (after the point you are ready for any key, and keep an eye we remind you press the power button into FASTBOOT), this time the first phone you want to make sure you select fastboot option (ps: please Do not press the power button, or you come back), followed by free press any keyboard key, heart and silently count about 5-6 seconds, then press the power button, so your computer if you press the power button there, you just press it, the general You can not successful, which probably takes a few seconds to press the need for us to comprehend their own.
First time writing a tutorial, there is no picture really embarrassing, tragic, ah, please bear with it
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OMG.. need to try this..
though I cant understand the instruction..
Any link to the original forum?
Maybe some other guys can translate better than google translator..
and some of the links is not working..
i think i'll give it a try.But i'm definitly not the first person who will do this...
oneyard said:
OMG.. need to try this..
though I cant understand the instruction..
Any link to the original forum?
Maybe some other guys can translate better than google translator..
and some of the links is not working..
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Here is the link
From what I read in the comments there is that there is allot of flaming on the post creator so maybe it's not working or idk
404
http://www.dkmdesign.dk/custom_roms/131/LEGEIMG.zip
Do you have a mirror of this file?
Please fix the mirror :/
I have a HTC Legend HBOOT 1.01.0000 with vodafone spain
I don't know so much about how to become S-OFF my legend.
I think I can downgrade the HBOOT to 0.43 an do it, but if i update the S-OFF will still be there?
Anyone know more about this topic?
I just found the post, I cannot mirror the file since I don't have it
The original post creator is talking about downgrading the hboot to 0.43, if you guys get to hboot 0.43 you can just use alpharev to S-OFF
But as said before the translation to English is like Chinese to us (ironic is it)
any news?
Did anyone try this possible S-OFF on a Legend 1.01.000?
8 Sorry for this. i've just registred
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7 i have the file. must post 8 before i can give outside link
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Here it is: ttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/39715602/LEGEIMG.zip
put a "h" in front of link.
found here: ttp://android.zone.it.sohu.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=6785904
I've not tried this method yet.
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A Google translation of china site:
Brush recovery method is to sd card formatted as FAT32 format, download the attachment me rename LEGEIMG.zip into the SD card inside.
Then press the start button to enter the volume increase under HBOOT mode will start automatically prompted to Brush. Follow the prompts to select yes start brushing machine.
Brush recovery interface between the first view is shown HBOOT Legend CVT SHIP S-OFF can use this post to provide the recovery, or can not brush.
ENG S-OFF of the students can not use the card the way brush brush Recovery, Recovery brush must rely on the computer or the phone's internal flash_image procedures. ENG S-OFF of a student if the RUU after the brush, the machine locked up immediately. Again, ROOT.
The SHIP S-OFF, students can use the card the way brush Brush. Even out the latest RUU after OTA or can easily upgrade and downgrade, because after brushing RUU, is still the S-OFF.
Uhhmm.. anyone tried? I can't really understand the instructions...
The file should be on the sdcard and then reboot to bootloader?
And after that the legend should have 0.43 and a ENG S-OFF bootloader?
Dumb kind of instruction. Ordered XTC Clip - made S-OFF with it. On the result reported here.
Did anyone try it?
It is possible to downgrade from HBOOT 1.01 to 0.43 in the HTC Legend?
As far as I understand is this just for wiping your recovery to the default... and you need s-off to do that
It's sucks!!! There is no method to became S-OFF!!
There is no method to downgrade HBOOT 1.01 to 0.43!! (only with the box)
There is no way to do with HTCdev!!!
I think HTC forget about all the HTC Legends!!!
Funny thing is that they (HTC) released unlocked bootoaders for Wildfire and Desire. Legend probably won't get one.
I've kinda wonder why...
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
Then tweet to @HTCDev that they should also support the HTC Legend.
Or contact them per Mail.
I already did it but never got an answer
fabi280 said:
I already did it but never got an answer
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Surprise, surprise!
Been there, done that.
I cannot understand why too...
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More unlocked bootloader but not for HTC LEGEND...
IN ENGLISH:
HTC Adds Bootloader Unlock Support For More Devices - Desire Z, Aria, Droid Incredible, T-Mobile G2, Status, And ChaCha
If you didn't know, HTC has promised to provide bootloader unlock support for all devices released after September of 2011 as well as many others released before, and they have been keeping good on that promise with added support for many devices over the last few months.
They're still going strong, and added several more devices to the list earlier today.
There you have it, the newly supported devices are the HTC Desire Z, ChaCha, Aria, Droid Incredible, Status, and T-Mobile G2. If you own one listed above, you can head on over to the HTCDev website to unlock your bootloader now.
As always, you're warned of the potential harm you can do to your device with an unlocked bootloader, and it is strongly recommended that only experienced users proceed.
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IN SPANISH:
HTC libera más bootloaders, esta vez HTC Desire Z, ChaChaCha, Aria, Droid Incredible y Status
HTC libera más bootloaders, esta vez HTC Desire Z, ChaChaCha, Aria, Droid Incredible y Status12
Estamos en un época donde se distingues dos tipos de compañías: las que no dan un soporte eficaz en Android y se arriesgan a perder clientes a un largo plazo y los que empezaron con Android y están aprendiendo que molestar a sus clientes no hace otra cosa que convencerles de pasarse a la competencia y deciden dar un buen soporte e intentar enmnedar los errores del pasado.
En este segundo grupo se encuentra HTC, que tras tener un inicio agridulce con Android bloqueando los bootloaders de muchos dispositivos en el pasado, ha decidido no volver a bloquearlos y a lanzar las herramientas necesarias para desbloquearlos sin necesidad de complicar a los cocineros de ROMs para que se dequien especialmente a pulir las ROMs para los diversos terminales.
Hace unas semanas ya se liberaron los terminales Wildfire S, Wildfire, Salsa, Merge y Desire, y ahora HTC parece dispuesta a otra ronda de terminales para que puedan ser personalizados más fácilmente. Esta vez nos encontraremos Desire Z, ChaChaCha, Aria, Droid Incredible y Status, permitiendo así que los usuarios de estos terminales puedan entrar de lleno en el mundo de las ROMs.
Vía | Android Police
En Xataka Android | HTC desbloquea los bootloaders de Wildfire S, Wildfire, Salsa, Merge y Desire
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