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Gingerbread sdk out next week?

Going through a lot of white pages and news articles...gingerbread might just be around the corner...once the sdk drops it won't be long before devs jump on it and everyone has it on there android handsets...might take longer for samsung phones but that's just because they want to keep their stuff top security classified it seems like.anyways just seen the news poping around for the past few days and didn't see a post on it...check out android spin and the other top resources if you like....
Enjoy
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Vibrant Gingerbread, Samsung. OH lord, you just made my day....
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yes, I am seeing this news everywhere also. Something interesting is that they (Beta Testers) say that Gingerbread will "change the way we use our phones." This sounds like something major.

kangxi said:
Yes, I am seeing this news everywhere also. Something interesting is that they (Beta Testers) say that Gingerbread will "change the way we use our phones." This sounds like something major.
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Heh....I'd just like to see a handset like the Mozilla Seabird get built in the next 3-5yrs. I know it's a concept but man...what a concept.

Change the way we use our phones? Well these past decade there are a lot of changes on the way we use our phones already. What more, do laundry?
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Froyo first please.

iynfynity said:
Froyo first please.
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^^^^^^this

Kinda a noob, but if this uses the same kernel as froyo won't it be easy ish to port the sdk?

MTC44 said:
Kinda a noob, but if this uses the same kernel as froyo won't it be easy ish to port the sdk?
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It might. But we need the kernel to begin with
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Looks like Gingerbread is based on .33 or .34. Gonna be a while, If ever

Well figured this would be a nice change from the froyo crying...lol
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Yep, the joke is on us suckers, who go fooled by Samsung's lofty statements about the Galaxy S being their mobile game-changer.
Gingerbread will change the UI dramatically, and thus it will really change the way people use Android. OS 2.1 and 2.1 still feel like work in progress, and even Google claims that OS 3 will finally take the platform to a mature stage.
But I am losing faith that we'll see Gingerbread on the Galaxy S. By the time we finally get Froyo, Gingerbread will probably be officially released.
Then Samsung will EOL the Galaxy S, repackage it with a slightly faster chip version and go to market trying to get new suckers to buy the Gingerbread version, or old suckers to upgrade to it....
Phew!

If the release it for the galaxy s 2 or whatever it will be much easier for the devs to port over than it is for them to get group working now since samsung will most certainly keep very similar hardware in the next iteration of the phone.
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Tpavey said:
If the release it for the galaxy s 2 or whatever it will be much easier for the devs to port over than it is for them to get group working now since samsung will most certainly keep very similar hardware in the next iteration of the phone.
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Hopefully true.
But there is little excuse for Samsung being so slow to push upgrades. It's been 5 months since the OFFICIAL Froyo release, and Samsung must have had access to betas way earlier.
It will also be inexcusable if they don't upgrade the current Galaxy S to Gingerbread, since it's such a major upgrade and the phone hardware is compliant with it.
I am grateful for the devs here, but at the same time, I just went back to stock JI6 (just with a standard Android lockscreen mod), and frankly the battery life improved a little, plus the phone seems a bit more stable overall.
At this point I just want stability and the latest released firmware and OS. And it's Samsung's responsibility to provide it in a timely manner.

Ginger bread

Does anyone know if gingerbread will be ported to the samsung vibrant or any galaxy s phone. From developers that is. Since the nexus s is almost the same.
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Yes.
10 char.

Not so fast.
Samsung's (latest) official wording seems kind of wishy-washy.
“In case a new version of Android operating system is publicly announced and released, Samsung will review the possibility of implementation of such new version to the existing Samsung products with Android operating system (“Update”). Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors. If Samsung decides to make the Update available to the users after such consideration, Samsung will use its efforts to develop such Update, which may be released to the users upon successful completion of such development.”
source: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/samsung-and-htc-comment-on-gingerbread-update-plans/​
Sounds to me like they're giving themselves a hole to crawl out of. And seeing as how they're struggling to roll out Froyo as it is, they might just say f**k it to Gingerbread.
Although, there would probably be someone here who would port it over in the even that there's not an official update.

s15274n said:
Yes.
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chui101 said:
Not so fast.
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It doesn't have to be official. The OP asks whether the developers will port it and likely wasn't referring to Samsung.

Samsung now says it will get gingerbread.

as soon as the Nexus S source is released well see some work from the devs porting it to the SGS.

Shoot i was hoping for Fritter (2.4)

Yeah I don't count on samsung for anything. But making a sexy lookin phone leav the os to the bored computer nerds.
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I agree. Using a custom rom instead of a stock rom is a must.
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Once that Gingerbread steps in to xda. We will have a custom rom of it. lol
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Samsung Galaxy S Getting Android 2.3 Gingerbread February,2011

GOOD NEWS! for Galaxy S owners, the Gingerbread man will be coming to Samsung Most popular smartphone (Galaxy S) Flag-ship.
Remeber, Earlier this Month, Samsung Mobile India Twitter feed tells the fact that the mobile will get Android 2.3 (Screenshot below), The company kept it short and simple with a brief tweet: "Yes we will get gingerbeard on GalaxyS." but no other info announced from the company about the update. As we know Samsung has released the Froyo to All users on Many worldwide Carriers on 11,November 2010 and All of them is Now enjoying Froyo and Waiting to taste the Gingerbread.
Well, Today we Got a Confirmation That Samsung Galaxy S is Getting Another Update probably on February,2011 may be Earlier and this update will have Android 2.3 Gingerbread onboard. Leaked ROMs and Videos may start rolling-out on January so Stay tuned, Enjoy your Froyo... Gingerbread is coming on the way to Make "YouMobile".
Gingerbread brings with it an improved user interface which is slicker and more streamlined, along with better power management. It also boasts one-touch word selection and copy/paste, support for multiple cameras and goodies such as NFC (Near Field Communications).
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This is a joke for sure.
My S has Eclair, till this time there is no official froyo upgrade available for my phone and samsung is going to release gingerbread the coming February?
Are we talking about Samsung or about the comedy channel?
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This is the difference between porting (having to program the drivers for about everything) and having a native release (like HTC on N1).
Now that NexusS is in the hands of Google, we can expect faster release!

milro1970 said:
This is a joke for sure.
My S has Eclair, till this time there is no official froyo upgrade available for my phone and samsung is going to release gingerbread the coming February?
Are we talking about Samsung or about the comedy channel?
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Froyo has been out since October/early November, officially released by Samsung. Blame your carrier if your not getting the update. Contrary to belief, Samsung is quicker than HTC when pushing out updates, it's just that HTC devices have a much larger userbase on XDA, hence the quicker porting/updating.

2.2.1 has been out officially since September as well on N1,

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2.2.1 has been out officially since September as well on N1,
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N1 is the base on wich they developped the update, don't you think it's normal it gets prior updates?
It is also pretty usual that all the "clones" of N1 will get theses updates pretty fast, since HTC only have to put their bloatware on it and it's pretty much done!

Thanks! Hope this is true.

Is this website a reputable source?

Im just going we can reg hack again for gingerbread
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2.3 will come officialy probably by the time the phone is phased out.. not all countries have 2.2 yet.

err i will believe when i see leaked firmware of 2.3. Then it shows that they are truly working for a 2.3 release

Billus said:
support for multiple cameras and goodies such as NFC (Near Field Communications).
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Both of these are hardware dependant and both the Galaxy S doesn't have. The multiple camera support is for using with taking 3D pictures and/or recording 3D movies. And NFC is there so that android devices can attempt to get ahead of the iphone5 which is said to support it but these needs a dedicated chip.

Seriously, the Nexus S is nearly identical to the Galaxy S, and it takes them this long?

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Seriously, the Nexus S is nearly identical to the Galaxy S, and it takes them this long?
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takes them how long? the nexus s was released yesterday.
Google can not give the gingerbread code out to companies until it has been officially released.
Meaning no company will have any advantage in the race for gingerbread.
Only advantage samsung has, is gingerbread was built using their hardware

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Only advantage samsung has, is gingerbread was built using their hardware
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Hoping to see some crazy numbers for Linpak once JIT is optimized for Hummingbird..

Wait and see
well the recent froyo release to Bell i9000m owners did some damage to many peoples internal SD cards. Wonder what gingerbread will do to them...(melt them!)
Ah well, God knows I will try anything to get this device to function properly - I really do love it - but cant stand the issues it has.

fablife said:
well the recent froyo release to Bell i9000m owners did some damage to many peoples internal SD cards. Wonder what gingerbread will do to them...(melt them!)
Ah well, God knows I will try anything to get this device to function properly - I really do love it - but cant stand the issues it has.
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I have had one problem with this phone since purchase in September. You need to try a custom rom with a kernel upgrade, not like there is any lag in stock JPU.
I don't get how so many people complain about this great device when it can be pimped out within 30 minutes.
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Some Galaxy still don't have an official Froyo update yet. And the ones that do are still laggy. The 2.2.1 is finally a ROM that isn't laggy but its not official its a leak.
If Samsung comes out with Gingerbread they will screw it up. I'd rather have the community come up with a basic Gingerbread that works. And the community will do it long before Samsung does.

dude this is samsung, we all saw what happened with froyo and all the delays.
I have little hope for a febuary release, i say it's closer to june

2.2.1 is a revelation. I have put it on my galaxy s and its no longer laggy, really smooth, new market, lock screen wallpapers etc. Finally its transformed the phone into the powerhouse it always had the potential to be. I urge you all to get 2.2.1 ASAP!

Is it a matter of time before we see Gingebread?

Just wanted to know if its only a matter of time before we see android 2.3 roms on samsung galaxy vibrant? I know the nexus s has 2.3 but i don't know what that means for other high end android phones. Do we have to wait for a leaked version before we can install 2.3, or can developers create a rom just like gingerbread on the nexus s? THANKS in advance!
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mac1133 said:
Just wanted to know if its only a matter of time before we see android 2.3 roms on samsung galaxy vibrant? I know the nexus s has 2.3 but i don't know what that means for other high end android phones. Do we have to wait for a leaked version before we can install 2.3, or can developers create a rom just like gingerbread on the nexus s? THANKS in advance!
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Right now theres an experimental build out. Team whiskey is still working on putting out another version as per their site.
Experimental - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887993
Proof of still developing - http://board.teamwhiskey.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=832&start=4

As much as I would like 2.3, you have to know that T-Mobile has not released 2.2 OTA yet. I'm guessing Samsung is going to skip 2.2.1 and HOPEFULLY start developing 2.3 for the SGS lines. Giving Samsung's software track record along with T-Mobiles crappy service (in terms of getting updates out), it'll be a long while before we can even sniff 2.3 (thats been built and leaked for the Vibrant, not ported over).

Samsung's website (think it is under firmware link) shows the sgs including the usa tmobile sgs planned for the 2.3 update.......... to be safe look for it in August-Oct 2011 not before (my guess)

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Samsung's website (think it is under firmware link) shows the sgs including the usa tmobile sgs planned for the 2.3 update.......... to be safe look for it in August-Oct 2011 not before (my guess)
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Lol, we might not get official 2.2 by then.
I doubt very much we ever see official 2.3 on this phone.

I agree and think tmobile would like to foget these variant phones all together and concentrate on future developments. The SGS phones are in need of upgrades multicore. Sammy the industry leader and can't get bogged down with last yrs tech.
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lexluthor said:
Lol, we might not get official 2.2 by then.
I doubt very much we ever see official 2.3 on this phone.
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Im with you on this.
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Time to troll HTC again?

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...ist-which-phones-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
So where's ICS for the Shift, HTC?

We might as well start getting on them now since they held out forever on the kernel source. The shift is so under rated still.

I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...

I think its a very possible we will see one because
At first I would have said no way we would get it when HTC released Sense 3.0 which only supported Dual-Core devices. That would make you think any later version after 3.0 would also be a definite no and we will never see ICS (officially for the shift) and we know HTC will have to update Sense UI to a later version for ICS
But then again now HTC released Sense 3.5 on devices which is optimized to run on Single Core phones so now if they do update Sense it leaves room to think maybe their next iteration of sense will be compatible with lower end phones to (don't take that to context to much the shift IS very powerful)
We might also see an update like the EVO got when it recieved gingerbread. It got the firmware upgrade to gingerbread but HTC still kept it at 1.0
So their is always the possibility it could be our turn for that.
and now with the Handset alliance thing which HTC is apart of I believe, part of the ruling is you have to support a device for 18 months with latest updates as long as hardware allows.
If anything we know we will be waiting longer than most devices out there anyway if we do end up getting it. The phone is underappreciated a lot, just like the article says (to be honest I was suprised they even mentioned it)
But yea its basically time to start bugging HTC as much as we possibly can for some kind of update. I know I will start

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I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...
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I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!

VICODAN said:
I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!
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Haha.. well to answer your question.. Trololol away..

*puts on troll hat*

VICODAN said:
*puts on troll hat*
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Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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sparksco said:
Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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https://www.facebook.com/htcusa/posts/231659726902311

Official response from HTC USA on Facebook:
Hey guys. If you haven't seen our latest note on ICS, you can catch it here. http://on.fb.me/vSPMMr We will be announcing more phones later so just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean that it won't be in the future.

Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?

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Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Either way we're still waiting. The G1 and other older phones have a more working funtional rom or ICS then we do.
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HTCotta said:
Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.

GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.

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Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.
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Yes your right it is important that we get a official update. A new kernel could really help a lot even if it was a sense kernel.
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HTCotta said:
GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.
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It's not just sprints choice. It's a partnership between sprint and htc. We just need to express that we do want a official update to htc because htc will listen to us, and might come up with something with sprint. Sprint will not listen to us about a official update because all the do is tell htc which phones are more popular and which ones they think should get the updates first, and then htc goes on it's happy way to make a update. Meanwhile they throw in some of sprints apps (big deal). Htc does most of the work. They do all the kernels, and most of the rom development.
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