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New G2 Touch (Hero) - need your help.

Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
Thanks
G

gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
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be prepared to wipe everything, as this is the solution for 95% of all problems (people not wiping before upgrade). don't you dare to ask for help before you wiped and reflashed afaik you can get root access without wiping, but i am pretty sure you are going to want a custom rom like modacos rom, and this almost inevitably means you have to wipe.
in q&a there is a thread for what you can do with root. it is not really complete, another try is to search for "root" in the market. most applications that need root access are found by this, so you can see what you could do if you where rooted.
gk141054 said:
2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
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easy one. there is no donut rom for hero (except for a custom one here on the forum, which does not _really_ work), so you don't have it on your phone. imho: don't bother updating to donut rom, unless you know what you are doing.
gk141054 said:
3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
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what about the thread called "must have apps on your Hero" here in the themes&applications section? i don't think it will get any better than that... you need to do the reading yourself, you won't find a post that says "here is a zip with the ten apps you need to be happy" (well maybe you will find it, but i doubt that actually will be happy with it).
gk141054 said:
Thanks
G
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you're welcome.

Hi kendong2, thanks for the response...
I have read about this update on tmobile's website...
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=SOFTWAREDOWNLOADS&tab=2
If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?

gk141054 said:
If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?
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It isn't Donut - it is just the T-Mobile version of the 2.73 ROM. Since your phone is very new, it probably already has it anyway, but to check go to Menu-> Settings -> About Phone, and check the build number. If it starts 2.73, you've already got the updated ROM.
If you get a 1.xx build number, my advice would be *not* to install the T-Mobile update as it will make it much harder for you to move to a custom ROM at a later date. You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
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or start with modaco right away

Hi again guys...
Checked my Touch last night and it is on 1.76
I'm a bit weary about rooting and installing generic / custom roms for fear of voiding the warranty and then owning a £500 brick...
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?

gk141054 said:
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?
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Put it this way -if you upgrade to 2.73 via the T-Mobile RUU, in order to move to a custom ROM in future you will have to "downgrade" to a generic HTC 2.73 ROM via a Goldcard (see here) which is much more complicated when you've already got a ROM on your phone which is "exploitable".
The other thing you should bear in mind is that when Android 2.0 is released for the Hero, it will likely first come out as a ROM for unbranded phones with operator branded versions following some time later. This is what happened when 2.73 was released, and T-Mobile in particular was quite tardy in getting its own version out.
So, if you want to go to Android 2.0 sooner rather than later, you should look at a non-T-Mobile version of 2.73 now.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks very much for the advice guys, going to do as you suggested.
Unfortunately I have more questions though:
1. to load the generic 2.73 I just "oneclickroot" (found the video on youtube to follow) and then download the theme and rename it "update.zip" put this onto your memory card, turn off your phone then press and hold the "home" button while pressing the power button.... keep the "home" button down until you get to the recovery screen then select flash the update.zip as you would a rom. Is that right or have I missed anything?
2. Having a Tmobile G2 Touch rather than a Hero won't make any difference to the rom that I choose will it?
3. Will putting a new rom on lose my contacts or widgets / scenes etc?
4. Can you recommend a nice rom to go for, like what you guys are using? Want it to look nice, be stable but fast
Cheers again for the help guys.

Answers!
1. Can't help here as I didn't use the one-click method.
2. No.
3. Yes. However, if you've synced your contacts to Google, you will get them back again once you set the phone up again.
4. Modaco - nuff said.
Regards,
Dave

For a newbie I can recommend 'the unlockr'-Google it- they have easy to follow vids for rooting and flashing roms for the hero. It's really easy and you won't brick your phone if you have half a brain cell.

[Q] Best guides to rooting?

Hi everyone!
I'm new to all this rooting - have a HTC Hero that is now my 'second' phone since I have recently upgraded to the Galaxy S. I would like to know what is the best guide out there to root my HTC Hero/G2 Touch to load a custom ROM - as i'd like to start using the latest 2.2 Froyo update.
P.S My firmware is currently 1.5 and I have build number 2.73.110.26 on T-Mobile (UK)
If anyone could put me in the right direction i'd be very appreciative - might be a good idea (if not already been done) to create a sticky guide for rooting the hero phone as it seems very common.
Thanks in advance!
p.s i'm not a noob to computers but rooting phones is a new thing to me - so forgive me if i ask a few questions
Gav

IMO the guide here is the best:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645253
Mainly because it is written by me............
But other than that - its probably the most up to date and quickest method available at the moment. I hope it helps and i'm on hand if anything doesn't go to plan (rare).

I second that, that's definitely the best guide on here.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Cheers dude! Thanks i will give that a whirl soon

Hi,
I am a Hero user since day one. I rooted my phone back then with one of the early methods. I had to manually chmod stuff and copy over files or something like this, I don't remember exactly.
Now I haven't followed the root/mod/rom world anymore, but want to install a new rom now.
Do I have to re-root my phone with a new method? Should I reset anything?

I'm a little confused with all the roms - i just want to use a stable froyo 2.2 - which rom would you recommend I go for (I am using a UK T-Mobile phone)
Cheers

dvrvm said:
Hi,
I am a Hero user since day one. I rooted my phone back then with one of the early methods. I had to manually chmod stuff and copy over files or something like this, I don't remember exactly.
Now I haven't followed the root/mod/rom world anymore, but want to install a new rom now.
Do I have to re-root my phone with a new method? Should I reset anything?
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It is recommended to have the latest custom recovery installed before flashing a new ROM. So if you turn off your phone, then hold HOME + POWER to boot into the recovery, you should get some writing come up at the bottom. The latest Amon Ra is 1.7 I think.
But apart from that, you can just put the new ROM onto your SD, then flash through the recovery, easy.
gavk-xda said:
I'm a little confused with all the roms - i just want to use a stable froyo 2.2 - which rom would you recommend I go for (I am using a UK T-Mobile phone)
Cheers
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FroydVillain 1.5? I haven't updated from 1.4.4 yet but will definitely be doing so this evening.
EDIT.... Also there is that Fusion ROM,... Give that one a try aswel, try to run them for 48hours to get a good feel for the two.

[q] new aria user and confused

I just exchanged a defective captivate for the ariaand looking at some of the threads confused. Do I root now or wait for froyo??? when I have froyo will rooting give me acces to the portable wifi hot spot feature???

If you're planning on rooting at some point, then you might as well get on with it. You can have Froyo now with either CyanogenMod 6.1 or Liberated FR008. Both have the wireless hotspot feature included.
If you wait for the AT&T Froyo update, you will probably be waiting awhile, and at least for now, you are not able to gain root once you've applied the official update.

clark222 said:
I just exchanged a defective captivate for the ariaand looking at some of the threads confused. Do I root now or wait for froyo??? when I have froyo will rooting give me acces to the portable wifi hot spot feature???
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If and when HTC/AT&T release Froyo for the Aria, chances are the wifi hot spot will be disabled.
My advice would be to root now and then install either CyanogenMod 6.1 with is AOSP Froyo 2.2 or Libertated FR008 ROM (HTC Sense w/ Froyo 2.2) from the European Gratia. Both of these custom ROM have the Froyo Wifi hot spot enabled and working.

Ihave a few questions...how do i find htc sync and install it?? after getting modified froyo on does that stop att upgrade? and all modified upgrades roms manual intal?

clark222 said:
Ihave a few questions...how do i find htc sync and install it?? after getting modified froyo on does that stop att upgrade? and all modified upgrades roms manual intal?
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You can download HTC Sync from here:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/aria-att/downloads/
Nobody really knows if the Liberated ROM will get a notification about the AT&T upgrade because it has not happened yet.
Yes all of the custom ROMS are manual install.

keep in mind that when ATT releases the FroYo update it will probably be unable to ROOT at first. they love to add new securities to make life interesting for us hackers
if you do get an Aria check out my Aria Superthread Guide for info about how to mod your new phone

I do own an aria

thanks for the files!! doing root now

how do i know unrevoked is working or not?

clark222 said:
how do i know unrevoked is working or not?
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It should tell you when it is finished.
One word of advice, unrevoked didn't work for me under windows. I think the Ubuntu LiveCD method is pretty trustworthy though.

I've used UnrEVOked to root 3 different Arias with no problems... so if you don't want to go with the Ubuntu method, go ahead and try Unrevoked.

if unrevoked were working, would I see a series of messages?? I just started it , should the mesage pushing recovery stay on for sometime? how long should it take? Im running win 7 pro 64 bit

It took me about five minutes using the ubuntu method. If it pauses at waiting to reboot, it's safe to take it out, and start it over again I believe.
clark222 said:
if unrevoked were working, would I see a series of messages?? I just started it , should the mesage pushing recovery stay on for sometime? how long should it take? Im running win 7 pro 64 bit
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Sent from my Liberty using XDA App

I got 0ne reboot should I try again? or go to recovery mnu and select recover?

Rooting my Hero seemed easy, at first...

As easy as hacking psp, but then i broke the unwritten rule, i let my phone update a month ago (it said 2.2....so) which took me from the what seemed easy process of rooting a phone at 2.1 to the hard one of 2.1 update1...
downgrading back to 2.1 seemed liked a plan right cause
Code:
unrevoked.com/m
that should work then... i think and its seems almost to easy, but i just cant wrap man head around downgrading.......
I also found a easy way of doing it with the radio but my baseband version is also to high (at least from what Ive read 2 42 02 10 29)
All the stickys ive found seem to be out of date, and thats seems the case every where, i was going to use my update to get a evo instead, being new if i dont let it update it should be easy to root, but i hear after 1/30 you got to pay more, i not sure if thats counts if i activate the phone before that date tho...
so now im stuck and asking for help, somewhere to start would be mucho great. ty in advance.

Ummm......I'm lost here brother. The tutorials here work, even for the lastest update. I just did another one yesterday for a friend. Which one's have you tried?

Well see i honesly havent tried much, just been doing my homework trying to see what works, what dont, if you say these tuts are on point ill start puting everything ive gathered together and start, ill use this topic if i encounter any problems.
just alot to take in, all in one night new terms and all that...
Edit:Ok this tut http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
says if i dont have 2.27.651.5 in his case 2.27.651.6 (i have 2 32 651 2) i need to downgrade with the ruu the thread provides, since it dosent mention my build number, im unsure if it matters, going to download ruu as i dont see how it will hurt so.
any advice?

Run the "One click root apk" in the themes and apps forum. Not the universal root cause that gives people problems.
One click root apk will root whatever sprint update your on. Its super easy
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

.... that was all a little to easy...... well it worked i guess, wireless tether here i come, anything else i need to know?
Edit: so really the only reason i did this was for the wireless tether, my phone is the only internet i have so i hope it was worth it... but what else can/ should i do with it.... im unsur, can i get true android 2.2, and roms they what an OS, and whats froyo? kinda in over man head lol but i keep getting myself deeper...

well i will reccomend AOSP 0.9.8 it is very good rom....fast and stable...
make yourself a nand back up(you can use Rom manager from the market) wipe...flash and you are ready...
if you dont like it..you got the back up....so you can restore whatever you are running now....

shiozaki said:
.... that was all a little to easy...... well it worked i guess, wireless tether here i come, anything else i need to know?
Edit: so really the only reason i did this was for the wireless tether, my phone is the only internet i have so i hope it was worth it... but what else can/ should i do with it.... im unsur, can i get true android 2.2, and roms they what an OS, and whats froyo? kinda in over man head lol but i keep getting myself deeper...
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told you it was super easy, your welcome. You can hit the thanks button if you want
as far as roms yes you want a custom one. yes you can get 2.2, it comes in two flavors, CM6 and AOSP. CM6 allows for lots of customizing. AOSP is the fastest rom you can download for this phone right now with everything working. Personally I would recommend AOSP. If you want to switch later you can(you probably will cause everyone does, its an addiction.)
you need to flash a custom recovery to do custom roms. easiest way to do that is download Rom manager from the market and use it to flash the clockwork mod recovery.
and Froyo is 2.2, Gingerbread is 2.3, and Eclair is 2.1.
If you have any other questions, like specifics on the process and other things check this thread first----CLICK ME
if you cant find the answer there, check the sticky at the top of the development forum.
if you cant find it there, perform a search using the box at the top of the page.
if that doesn't work, perform a google search.
If you still cant figure it out, PM me and I'll see if I can simplify it for you.
If after all that, and only after all that, you still don't have an answer. Make a thread in the Q and A forum and only that forum. And you shall find an answer.
Good luck.

http://romrepo.info/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
enjoy

I just used z4root to root my Hero and it worked fine using the newest version (1.3 I believe) and the Permanent Root option. The only hiccup that I ran into is that z4root seemed to have gotten stuck on the "Rebooting" screen. I had let it run for about 20 min and hit the Home button then went to applications and found that SuperUser was installed and the phone is actually rooted. Been able to install ROM Manager and use Titanium Backup to remove a bunch of the Sprint and HTC apps.

[Q] Firmware Update ?

So, I'd like to upgrade my HTC Wildfires firmware to the latest one (not sure whether its 2.2 or 2.3 atm) and I'd like to do it via PC, connected with USB cable... How do I do it, what should I download, etc... I'm a complete newbie when it comes to stuff like this so any kind of guidance would be highly appreciated.

connect to wifi and ask yourself if you are sure you do not want to root or flash a custom rom. if the anser is no go to menu > settings > about phone > software updates > check now then follow the on screen prompts
IF YOU DO THIS YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT
WHEN THE UPDATE IS INSTALLING DONT DO ANYTHING STUPID (E.G. REMOVE THE BATTERY. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR DEVICE

As the previous post said: IF YOU DO THIS YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT YOUR PHONE.
Unless you know why you want to 'upgrade' via this route I would highly recommend not doing it.
There are already Froyo (2.2) and Gingerbread (2.3) ROMs available in the forums immediately that can only be installed on a rooted device. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS IF YOU UPGRADE THE WAY YOU ARE SUGGESTING, IE. THERE IS NO GOING BACK IF YOU UPGRADE THE WAY YOU ARE SUGGESTING. YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO ROOT YOUR PHONE.
Apologies for the shouting but you really should understand what you will be missing out on if you can't root your phone.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

Okay, so, how can I root my device, what is rooting it good for and after I root it, how do I install the ROMs ? (sorry for all the questions, I'm really a noob when it comes to stuff like this)

zaxrider said:
Okay, so, how can I root my device, what is rooting it good for and after I root it, how do I install the ROMs ? (sorry for all the questions, I'm really a noob when it comes to stuff like this)
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Just read this thread, completely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396

Must've been blind not to notice that thread... Anyway, already got CM7 on my Wildfire, thanks !