Hi all, I'm quite new to this forum and I hope I dont break any netiquette with my question.
Now I have a N1 I bought on ebay, used, rooted and perfectly functioning.
I don't remember how, but I was able to update it to FRG83D downloading the rom, renaming it, copying on my sdcard etc ...
Now ...
I can't update to FRG83D.
I understood that having a rooted N1 NO OTA UPDATE shall ever work for me, not the manual update is available.
I was able to skip the "no signature verification" error suing clockwork mod, but i can't install the patch anyway, the system alway replies "assert failed: apply_patch_ckeck (" stystem app accountandsyncsetting . apk" ... then a serie of letters and number follows.
I know nothing about this, I must confess, but my suspect is that the update fails because something doesn't match between the update and the ROM which is working on my N1 (which is by the way the original one build frg83d
baseband version
32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.12_7
kernel
2.6.32.9-27240-gbca5320 android-build apa26 #1
Any sugestion ?
I mean and idea about where I can download a FRG83D version suitable for my phone ?
If you just want stock with very little tweaks, may i suggest Geo's Rom. It's basically the latest stock rom w/ superuser, busybox, trackball alert etc. Runs amazing too =)
As for breaking any netiquette, you're suppose to post this in the questions forum not the general. Have fun with your phone.
worked!
Thanks Mokurex!
It worked.
It's unbelievable.
I spent three nights in search of an answer, and then you solved it in few seconds.
I'm new to Android, and I must confess that I'm quite disoriented.
There hare hundred of versions, produced by individuals, companies, etc ... The one I used, I mean the one you suggested me, seems to be the fruit of an individual's work in the US.
It's ok to me, sounds and works good.
But It's not the original one, I mean the one released by ... Google ? or ... what ?
It doesn't matter, but I just want to say that it would be easier for us all, newbies, to have some clear guidelines on this, an online guide for dummies, something or somebody who would explain us the difference between a odexed or deodexed versions, what are the pro and cons of rooting a N1, the fact that rooted phones loose the OTA update (which is very VERY painful for us newbies, etc ...).
I understand that we can rely of forums and on kind people like you, but having some clear cut guidelines would be very useful.
... and looking at the future ... I guess I'll have the same problems when I'll have to update to Gingerbread.
I's very frustrating to search the web for a suitable ROM for your phone ...
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But It's not the original one, I mean the one released by ... Google ? or ... what ?
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No, it's not the original. That one is deodexed, so any future OTA updates will not work (as Google's stock ROMs and updates and not de-odexed). You will have to wait until someone repacks the update, then apply it.
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It doesn't matter, but I just want to say that it would be easier for us all, newbies, to have some clear guidelines on this, an online guide for dummies, something or somebody who would explain us the difference between a odexed or deodexed versions, what are the pro and cons of rooting a N1,
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Did you read the wiki? There are lots of posts/threads/guides available.
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the fact that rooted phones loose the OTA update (which is very VERY painful for us newbies, etc ...).
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What are you trying to say? Phones running a rooted, but otherwise stock ROM will certainly received the OTA updates. Now if you use a non-stock ROM, you may or may not receive the OTA update. But whether you receive it or not, you will not be able to apply it as is, until someone repacks it (unless you are using the stock ROM, rooted or not).
I believe you have to use the stock recovery as well if you wanted to update via OTA.
If you want to get Gingerbread by way of OTA, then revert to stock rom and recovery. Everything you need is in the sticked thread in the development section.
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I believe you have to use the stock recovery as well if you wanted to update via OTA.
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No, you do not. You just need a newer version of Amon_RA (1.9+) or CWM.
Thank you for the correction.
Efrant, Mokurex,
perhaps it's my problem.
My original plan was to restore my phone is a status capable of receiving OTA updates. Considering that I'm not an IT expert it would be easier for me ho have such a phone.
Wandering on the web, I discovered that rooted phones are not eligible for OTA updates.
And most important of all, I'm not eligible to manually update is as well using the patches on the net (signature verification errors ... and many others seen above).
Mokurex helped me a lot (actually, solved my problem by now) suggesting that version of the ROM (I mean Geo's one) but it's the fruit of a work of an individual. I'm very grateful to him as well, but who knows about the future. Will Geo provide a similar version of Gingerbread as well ? Because without him I can't upgrade.
Efrant, got your remark.
I have CWM, latest version, I also bought the premium version (in oder to show to the programmer of it my appreciation) but in my case it just doesn't work.
With it, I can bypass the signature issue, but then I got stuck at assert failed: apply_patch_ckeck (" stystem app accountandsyncsetting . apk
Oh, by the way, I also tried to go back to ERE27 or something like that (unrooted version etc ...) but the mobile just doesn't work at all ...
I understood that the only way to unroot my phone (actually, any phone) and qualify for the OTA is via SDK.
... but I'm afraid it's just a bridge too far for my poor knowledge.
Geo has been quick to update his rom to the newest version. To upgrade to gingerbread, i'd assume that it would be like flashing any other custom rom, but there might be a bit more steps involved.
If you want completely stock, no root whatsoever, go here.
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Wandering on the web, I discovered that rooted phones are not eligible for OTA updates.
And most important of all, I'm not eligible to manually update is as well using the patches on the net (signature verification errors ... and many others seen above).
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I said it before, and I'll say it again: rooting has no bearing on the phone's ability to receive and install OTA updates -- what matters is which ROM you have. I rooted my phone when I bought it, and it had Eclair on it. I have received EVERY OTA update without any problem.
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Efrant, got your remark.
I have CWM, latest version, I also bought the premium version (in oder to show to the programmer of it my appreciation) but in my case it just doesn't work.
With it, I can bypass the signature issue, but then I got stuck at assert failed: apply_patch_ckeck (" stystem app accountandsyncsetting . apk
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That is probably because you were not using a stock ROM...
stefanopelloni said:
Oh, by the way, I also tried to go back to ERE27 or something like that (unrooted version etc ...) but the mobile just doesn't work at all ...
I understood that the only way to unroot my phone (actually, any phone) and qualify for the OTA is via SDK.
... but I'm afraid it's just a bridge too far for my poor knowledge.
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If you want a stock ROM, you can go here: http://developer.htc.com and download a Nexus One image to your sdcard, rename it to PASSIMG.zip and boot the phone into bootloader (by holding the trackball and powering up the phone). It should automatically detect the file and allow you to flash it.
Files from the site are official. If you get them from anywhere else, you can't really know what's been modified.
Dear Efrant,
if you were a girl, and in Italy, I would probably kiss you.
Now I have a bright-clear picture of the situation.
During the next holiday, I'll try and flash a stock version of the OS and then try the OTA update.
By now, the version mokurex suggested me work brilliantly and after so many nights wasted in a desperate search of an answer my myself i'm going to have a break.
... but thanks a lot. thanks indeed !!!
Sorry to disturb you again Eftant.
The fact is that today decided eventually to follow your step, but encountered another unexpected problem.
downolaed the original HTC rom - done
renamed it passimg.zip - done
turned on the N1 pressing trackball - done
expected detection of PASSIMG.zip - done
opening passimg.zip - done
checking passimg.zip - done
and then .. nothing
once the N1 load the passimg.zip file (i notice it from a loading bar on the upper right conder of the phone) it just allow me to
1)run bootloader agan
2) lock sim
3) restore something ...
... and that !
No possibility to "flash" rom as you wrote.
Did I miss anything ?
I see from the web that a lot of people bring back the N1 to the stock image using SDK from PC (MAC in my case) but the steps are not so clear considering the fact that I'm not that comfortable with the shell and the Android SDK is not intuitive (... to me).
Thanks in any case for your attention!
Try wiping your device then download the FRF91 image from the same site, rename it to PASSIMG.zip and save it to the root of your sdcard. Put your sdcard back into your device, and boot into the bootloader (by holding down the trackball as you push the power button). Once it flashes, wait for the OTA to FRG83G. Some users have said that the later images don't work using, particularly if you have updated to the 0.35 version of the bootloader.
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Hi all,
i have an Nexus One SLCD and want to flash the US Stock Adroid rom so i can get all further updates directly from google OTA.
I don't need root and i don't care if unlocking my bootloader will void my warranty.
The problem is: all i can find are many FAQs about "rooting without unlocking the bootloader".
Since i'm not interested in any custom roms, can somebody please explain to me how i can flash the stock us rom on my german Nexus One SLCD?
Is there any faq for this available?
As i said my two important points are following:
- i want the us stock rom
- i want OTA updates
I would appreciate a short step-by-step description (i did this with my old Nexus One AMOLED but it seems like the older roms don't work with SLCD devices as the drivers are missing, so in don't know which rom to flash after i unlocked the bootloader).
thanks!
Look in Nexus One Wiki, "Unroot/Restore your Nexus", PASSIMG method.
Flash Korean FRF91 ROM.
AFAIK, there is no US ROM with SLCD support.
Jack_R1 said:
Look in Nexus One Wiki, "Unroot/Restore your Nexus", PASSIMG method.
Flash Korean FRF91 ROM.
AFAIK, there is no US ROM with SLCD support.
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thanks! i checked the FAQ and have a question about this:
"Using PASSIMG.ZIP method (adapted from here):
1. Revert HBOOT to older version, if needed (required for pre-FRG33 stock builds and for flashing CyanogenMod ROMs).
* Use the following steps to flash PASSIMG.ZIP that differs from EPF30.
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it says that i have to revert the HBOOT if i have pre-FRG33 stock build (which is the case for me).
but when opening the link the first post says:
"this is especially useful for people who wish to use the rooting method without unlocking the bootloader. If you already have an unlocked bootloader, there is no reason to follow this guide."
since i want to unlock my bootloader, do i need the above mentioned steps at all?
edit: just saw that you updated your reply. is there really no us rom supporting slcd? i was hoping this was the case as even developer phones should start being sold as SLCD versions...
If you have HBOOT 0.33, then you don't need to downgrade it - which leaves you with easy procedure. I've changed the Wiki to be more understandable.
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If you have HBOOT 0.33, then you don't need to downgrade it - which leaves you with easy procedure. I've changed the Wiki to be more understandable.
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sorry for the dumb question. But how can i check which HBOOT version i have and if i have HBOOT 0.33, does this mean i don't even have to unlock the bootloader (via fastboot) to be able to flash the US STock ROM?
Reboot to bootloader (fastboot), it'll show you the version at the top of the screen.
Unlocking the bootloader isn't required anyway. If all you want is to have a stock ROM - then keep the phone stock, since unlocking won't be of any use to you.
You can flash US stock ROM (FRF91 PASSIMG - link exists in Wiki), but if you happen to end up with a phone that goes black after "X" splash screen - don't say I didn't tell you
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Reboot to bootloader (fastboot), it'll show you the version at the top of the screen.
Unlocking the bootloader isn't required anyway. If all you want is to have a stock ROM - then keep the phone stock, since unlocking won't be of any use to you.
You can flash US stock ROM (FRF91 PASSIMG - link exists in Wiki), but if you happen to end up with a phone that goes black after "X" splash screen - don't say I didn't tell you
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But wouldn't my Vodafone Firmware throw an error if i just try to flash a stock us rom? And i would rather try to directly flash the newest rom, because as you said i don't think that FRF91 supports lcd.
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sorry i just realized that i haven't even mentioned until now that i'm talking about an european vosdafone nexus one SLCD (FRF91)...
The newest FRG83 ROM doesn't exist yet in PASSIMG version that I'm aware of. If it would exist - or if it appears at some point - it'll be easily flashable over FRF91, no matter what build.
Anyway, looks like Korean ROM won't help you, since it doesn't seem to receive OTAs either (I guessed you have VF version). I'm not aware of any other "clean" FRF91 ROM that supports SLCD, and I've googled it for 1/2 hour. You could wait until FRG83 PASSIMG appears, I guess...
Thanks. I rooted my Nexus One now. Guess I have to wait until the passimg FRG83 emerges. But if I want to keep root I have to wait until the passimg is rooted correct? And how long does it usually take until a new stock build is provided as passimg with root?
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The newest FRG83 ROM doesn't exist yet in PASSIMG version that I'm aware of. If it would exist - or if it appears at some point - it'll be easily flashable over FRF91, no matter what build.
Anyway, looks like Korean ROM won't help you, since it doesn't seem to receive OTAs either (I guessed you have VF version). I'm not aware of any other "clean" FRF91 ROM that supports SLCD, and I've googled it for 1/2 hour. You could wait until FRG83 PASSIMG appears, I guess...
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Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I have found following link:
http://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/318475/frg83-android-2-2-1/
There is a link to a rom:
http://android.clients.google.com/ packages/passion/signed-passion-FRG83-from-FRF91.c8847c98.zip
Can I use this to switch from frf91 Vodafone to stock us FRG 83 rom?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
can anyone answer my above question?
my aim is to have a stock us rom (root is no must - so no problem if i lose it during the process. currently i have a rooted vodafone FRF91 device.)
No you can't use that to upgrade the Voda ROM.
As it stands now you'd have to root the phone (using UniversalAndroot if you want to stay locked), and use fastboot or flash_image to "update" system.img and boot.img to the USA/Google orginal ones.
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No you can't use that to upgrade the Voda ROM.
As it stands now you'd have to root the phone (using UniversalAndroot if you want to stay locked), and use fastboot or flash_image to "update" system.img and boot.img to the USA/Google orginal ones.
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i have unlocked my bootloader now and rooted my device. is there any manual on how i can update system.img and boot.img with fastboot. And where can i find those files? Is there a risk to get a blank screen (SLCD)?
Hello,
I'm not new to rooting, but the Xoom scene is very confusing at the moment and I just need somebody to direct me to the proper guides and confirm that I'm not going to blow up my Xoom and/or tear a hole in the space time continuum.
Situation is this: I have a stock UK wifi Xoom and want to get to Android 3.1. I'm not willing to wait until 2013 for Motorola to pull the finger out and give their European customers an update.
SO
Obviously I need to root and apply the update manually.
I'm willing to risk the one-click method (I've seen other UK Xoomers have had some success with it).
Where do I go from there? One-click method says it will install tiamat kernel... but I've read that this isn't compatible with 3.1. So is there a guide that will take me from tiamat to 3.1? Do the update methods replace that kernel anyway? Am I going to go completely f*cking crazy if I have to trawl through another 50+ page thread full of conflicting info? (Yes.)
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Im not an expert at any of this, just a regular user but heres the guide i followed to get my uk wifi xoom updated. Http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074609
However you need to be aware that this software is the us version and you will ony have access to American English. You will lose all the European languages.
Also you need to be aware that if you unlock your bootloader with "fastboot oem unlock" you can not relock it. Trying will brick your zoom. (Currently)
If you could do a full system dump of your xoom as is with the UK wifi software that would be awesome as currently nobody has uploaded one and im trying to get back to stock and Motorola have only posted the us images
Thanks. I don't mind losing the languages. I'm using SwiftKey so I can just download any language modules I need.
I would certainly be willing to upload that if I had the faintest idea of how to do it! If I can get a step by step guide I can give it a go... and as long as I know I'm not also uploading my personal details and authorisation tokens etc along with the software!
Any particular reason you're going back to stock? Bugs or anything?
Edit: the canadian system image has the full set of languages if that's what you're looking for...
Sorry, didn't have time to wait for a reply, going out in a while.
I did a factory reset and then an adb pull so I've got all the system files etc on my PC. Not quite sure what to do with them, though. They're not in .img format, just in a folder?
Anyway, now rooted and running 3.1. Cheers for the link above.
Hi,
a few weeks ago I bought the SE Xperia Play and so far I love it. But I know there is more going on in the Android world. So I browsed through the Xperia Play sections and read trough a couple of threads to get answers to most of my questions I had.
But there are still a few remaining, which are:
1) Is there a way to backup the WHOLE phone ? By "whole phone" I mean TA/GDFS areas as well. My current phone is still in it's stock form, here are a few infos:
Modelnumber: R800i
Android version: 2.3.2
Baseband version: ....-1290_14-10
Kernel: 2.6.32.9-perf
Build: 3.0.A.2.181
It's SIM Free with bootloader still in it's locked state. Is there anything special about my phone that devs might want? Just ask and I'll try to provide.
Or is there a reason not to unlock / update / root for me because of low versions that might come in handy in the future for me?
2) Is there a recovery image in development which works on the Xperia Play ? I couldn't find one, but afaik "xRecovery" seems to be the recovery image for Sony Ericsson devices. Or am I mistaken here?
3) By unlocking the bootloader, the Xperia Play loses it's DRM certificates, which makes a couple of apps useless, like Track ID. What other apps won't work anymore after unlocking ? And are there ways to reconstruct / recreate these cerificates and carry them over to custom ROMs which may appear in the future ?
4) MoDaCo released a custom kernel which enables su shell and adb remount. But he managed it w/o unlocked bootloader. How's that possible? Does it only take place in RAM ? Or did he managed to install it in flash ?
5) In a today's thread about the rooted 2.3.3 image I saw that the provided image is an UK image. Is it ok to install such image on a german device ? Or shouldn't I care about the region the FW comes from ? Could I install a US image ? Or are UK images for all european devices?
6) In case I brick my device for some reason while updating it to 2.3.3. Could I recover it by using the UK generic .184 FTF image? Or do I always have to use the latest FW I tried to install on the device?
7) Last but not least. I flashed my buddys HTC Legend with CM7 and I love this ROM. I saw that Blagus is working on a CM7 port for the Xperia Arc. The Arc and the Play seem to be identical HW / SW-wise, does it mean that his port (in case the finishes it) will run on the Play as well (given with a few code changes of course) ?.
Sweet lord, turned out to be more questions then I planned But I guess it's good to have a FAQ kinda place where noobs like me can directly go to and get most important questions answered at once rather then spread all over the place
A big thanks to all in advance and keep up the work here !
Regards,
iCEQB
I am noob just like you and I managed to root my play in like 10 minutes after reading some threads here. Try to find some topics like rooting for beginners and another one which says the options that you have after rooting. I used gingerbreak and managed to get root access in about 5 minutes. As for the bootloader unlock I wouldn't recommend on doing that as there are no custom roms to flash our phones yet and personally I am very hapy with the original rom. The key is to root it with gingerbreak and get rid of all the useless apps that Sony has put in your phone and by doing this you get better battery life, better response and more free space. The apps that I use after rooting are busybox, titanium backup pro(to be able to freeze some apps and not delete them as I didn't know what they were doing) , adfree to get rid of the adds and many others. As for the other questions that you have, a more experienced android user should answer you. I didn't update to 2.3.3 as I will lose the rooting option which is necessary for me right now.
My questions are not about "how to root" as you can clearly see. They are rather about making 100% sure, not losing anything that might be valuable I maybe never get back, which could come in handy, like low system versions, a way to relock the bl with a TA backup, or DRM certificates.
I know how to root my phone and I know about the available options, but as I said, these questions are not about how to pull it of
Thanks anyway,
iCEQB
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I would also like to know these things and thats the reason why I used gingerbreak cause you have the option to unroot and you dont touch anything else. I also agree that we need an all-around FAQ topic which will include your questions.
Also n00b but will try... here goes lol
1. I dont think there is anyway to back up the whole phone. Best you can hope for is backing up settings when rooted. No need to hold off updating. But if you go to 2.3.3 rooting is not possible unless the bootloader is unlocked and you flash the rooted img (problem is if you leave the bootloader locked and update with SEUS it will install 2.3.3 so you will be unable to attain root, for now). No custom roms so i wouldnt unlock just yet (can unlock at anytime just will wipe your phone)
2. dont know
3. dont know (since mine is still locked)
4. dont know lol
5. If your xplay is the r800i. Cannot really see any problems . People who have confirmed the rooted img works are from around the world (uk, Hong Kong, Netherlands)
6. Again people who have used the UK generic .184 FTF image are from around the world. If the device is not sim locked (such as yours i dont think it matters )
7. I think it will, the software is basically the same so as you said a few tweaks and it should work. I think he started on the arc since the fourms are alot more active. Will possibly be unlocking the bootloader myself when some roms appear.
My bad if i interpreted your questions wrong as stated im a newb trying to learn fast lol
p.s you could pm the people who made the ftf files and then make a version of your own? if you want the low system version and as far as ive read its not possible to relock the bl once unlocked, yet? If you deffo know youre going to install custom roms wouldn't it be better to unlock the bootloader sooner rather than later since it wipes the phone?
Thanks for your answers so far !
Your answer for the 5th question bothers me though. What different models are there ? I know of R800i and R800a and I thought the letter behind the number is just some carrier marker or something like that or are there any other differences ?
Are there more modelnumbers existing ?
Thanks,
iCEQB
I hope this helps:
1) Is there a way to backup the WHOLE phone ? By "whole phone" I mean TA/GDFS areas as well. My current phone is still in it's stock form, here are a few infos:
Blagus is working on that, to no avail as of today. Maybe you'll want to contact him as he was looking for people with no SIM-lock, but locked bootloaders.
2) Is there a recovery image in development which works on the Xperia Play ? I couldn't find one, but afaik "xRecovery" seems to be the recovery image for Sony Ericsson devices. Or am I mistaken here?
If you mean Recovery such as CWM, no there's not. I'm not aware of xRecovery...
3) By unlocking the bootloader, the Xperia Play loses it's DRM certificates, which makes a couple of apps useless, like Track ID. What other apps won't work anymore after unlocking ? And are there ways to reconstruct / recreate these cerificates and carry them over to custom ROMs which may appear in the future ?
AFAIK, the other big loss is that you can't update through SEUS and you're forced to use Flashtool.
4) MoDaCo released a custom kernel which enables su shell and adb remount. But he managed it w/o unlocked bootloader. How's that possible? Does it only take place in RAM ? Or did he managed to install it in flash ?
He didn't release a kernel, he released an apk. Plus, the Xperia Play forum in MoDaCo has been empty for a whole week. I guess he's dropped it.
5) In a today's thread about the rooted 2.3.3 image I saw that the provided image is an UK image. Is it ok to install such image on a german device ? Or shouldn't I care about the region the FW comes from ? Could I install a US image ? Or are UK images for all european devices?
I bought my phone from Germany as well, and I've flashed the 2.3.3 updates (both the .FTF and the fastboot .img) without any issues.
6) In case I brick my device for some reason while updating it to 2.3.3. Could I recover it by using the UK generic .184 FTF image? Or do I always have to use the latest FW I tried to install on the device?
I guess you can always revert to the .184 one.
7) Last but not least. I flashed my buddys HTC Legend with CM7 and I love this ROM. I saw that Blagus is working on a CM7 port for the Xperia Arc. The Arc and the Play seem to be identical HW / SW-wise, does it mean that his port (in case the finishes it) will run on the Play as well (given with a few code changes of course) ?.
I guess only Blagus is fit to answer that, but if they're so similar, it should be an easy fit.
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Thank you very much for your answers !
The loss of using SEUS shouldn't be a problem in any way since FlashTool does the same job, if not better
I'll contact Blagus and see if he needs something from me to get his work done.
Thanks again,
iCEQB
SE_iCEQB said:
Thanks for your answers so far !
Your answer for the 5th question bothers me though. What different models are there ? I know of R800i and R800a and I thought the letter behind the number is just some carrier marker or something like that or are there any other differences ?
Are there more modelnumbers existing ?
Thanks,
iCEQB
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Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, asia?)
r800a (canada, rogers?)
r800at (usa?, at&t?)
r800x (usa? verizon?)
Z1i (china?)
I think other than r800i, others are mostly locked to phone providers? (unless bought sim free in their native country not sure tbh even the r800i is locked to some carriers i think?) I think r800x & maybe r800a are unable to unlock bootladers dues to restrictions from their carriers? Not sure tbh. I think all people in europe got the r800i? Dont know about differences since i got the r800i only
Thank you for answer and the nice list of modelnumbers. Yeah the problem with the few models which bootloaders can't be unlocked seems to be due to their SIM lock (at least it's the only I can find in the bootloader unlock thread ).
Regards,
iCEQB
Fantastic thread! As a new Xperia Play owner coming form a Droid 1, I'm very interested in the mod scene as it pertains to this phone. Great questions, OP!
Great thread lets keep it growing!
Sorry to hijack your thread. N00B here, so apologies in advance. I have read many of the threads on here since getting my xperia play and have joined just to ask a few questions if I may.
I want to root my phone to remove bloatware and more importantly remap the circle button for playing emus.
Q1. How do I know if my phone is bootlocked?
Q2. Is it as easy as run gingerbreak, delete bloatware, install apk, remap button?
Q3. Do i need to be running a certain FW, ie: can only be rooted on old FW.
Just so you can all understand, I know a grand total of sweet F-A about phones and rooting etc. Half of the abbreviations used, I've had to google to find out what they mean lol. As a 33 year old man, I'ts a strange feeling to be in my situation, its like being back at school and sitting my 1st algebra lesson!! Its all Greek and Double Dutch to me!
As in the OP, I also have a sim free phone running;
Model: R800i
Vers. 2.3.2
Base: -1290_14-14
Kernal: 2.6.32.9-perf
Build: 3.0.A.2.184
will this be a problem/is this helpful to a Dev?
Basically Im after a bit of reassurance/guidence as I really dont want to make my phone an expensive paper weight lol.
Thankyou all in advance, and agin sorry to OP for the Hi jack, but was going to post a thread with same name
Oh 1 last thing, if anyone lives in the South London area who knows what they are doing and fancies sorting my phone out for me, gets some drink tokens from me and a big thank you
Martin
Flipfoot said:
Sorry to hijack your thread. N00B here, so apologies in advance. I have read many of the threads on here since getting my xperia play and have joined just to ask a few questions if I may.
I want to root my phone to remove bloatware and more importantly remap the circle button for playing emus.
Q1. How do I know if my phone is bootlocked?
Q2. Is it as easy as run gingerbreak, delete bloatware, install apk, remap button?
Q3. Do i need to be running a certain FW, ie: can only be rooted on old FW.
Just so you can all understand, I know a grand total of sweet F-A about phones and rooting etc. Half of the abbreviations used, I've had to google to find out what they mean lol. As a 33 year old man, I'ts a strange feeling to be in my situation, its like being back at school and sitting my 1st algebra lesson!! Its all Greek and Double Dutch to me!
As in the OP, I also have a sim free phone running;
Model: R800i
Vers. 2.3.2
Base: -1290_14-14
Kernal: 2.6.32.9-perf
Build: 3.0.A.2.184
will this be a problem/is this helpful to a Dev?
Basically Im after a bit of reassurance/guidence as I really dont want to make my phone an expensive paper weight lol.
Thankyou all in advance, and agin sorry to OP for the Hi jack, but was going to post a thread with same name
Oh 1 last thing, if anyone lives in the South London area who knows what they are doing and fancies sorting my phone out for me, gets some drink tokens from me and a big thank you
Martin
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1. If you havent unlocked the bootloader yourself it will be still be locked. No need to unlock the bootloader to root. Unlocking is only needed if you want to install custom roms.
2. Since you are still running 2.3.2 Build 3.0.A.2.184 gingerbreak will still be able to root your phone. If you update though to 2.3.3, gingerbreak will be unable to root your phone since the exploit gingerbreak uses has been patched.
If you stay on 2.3.2 all you have to do is run gingerbreak http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 follow the instruction in the thread then you can uninstall any of the apps (bloat) on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699 using titainium backup free.
No need to root to remap the O button in emulators. In most the keypad mapping sets O to exit, all you have to do is set exit to another key then O to the key you want.
3. See 2.
May I ask why you want to re-map Circle? I had the hardest time mapping the Cross button because it's like a default Enter button. Finally, I read that if you simply use the touch screen to select the command you want to map, it will let you press the Cross button and map it.
Sorry if I'm off the mark here. That was just a big revelation when I learned that.
Mozza2k11 said:
Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, asia?)
r800a (usa, rogers?)
r800at (usa?, at&t?)
r800x (usa? verizon?)
Z1i (china?)
I think other than r800i, others are mostly locked to phone providers? (unless bought sim free in their native country not sure tbh even the r800i is locked to some carriers i think?) I think r800x & maybe r800a are unable to unlock bootladers dues to restrictions from their carriers? Not sure tbh. I think all people in europe got the r800i? Dont know about differences since i got the r800i only
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hey hey hey hey hey!
r800a = CANADA rogers.
thanks.
AriStar said:
hey hey hey hey hey!
r800a = CANADA rogers.
thanks.
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Lol my bad , il change it
Mozza2k11 said:
1. If you havent unlocked the bootloader yourself it will be still be locked. No need to unlock the bootloader to root. Unlocking is only needed if you want to install custom roms.
2. Since you are still running 2.3.2 Build 3.0.A.2.184 gingerbreak will still be able to root your phone. If you update though to 2.3.3, gingerbreak will be unable to root your phone since the exploit gingerbreak uses has been patched.
If you stay on 2.3.2 all you have to do is run gingerbreak http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 follow the instruction in the thread then you can uninstall any of the apps (bloat) on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699 using titainium backup free.
No need to root to remap the O button in emulators. In most the keypad mapping sets O to exit, all you have to do is set exit to another key then O to the key you want.
3. See 2.
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Many thanks! I now have a rooted Play, bloatware gone, big smile on my face!!!!
It looks like after hundred years of wait the final version of Marshmallow is here
But the thread about it have already flooded with hackers and people who root and are in general very advanced users.
Most people of us here have not rooted or touched the boot loader, all the problem we might see in the other thread might be because of the reason
that they have modified the phone in different ways.
so lets discuss of this update work for us who have non-modifed devices ? And let
keep all advanced "root" and hacking talk please. Especially since that in its own might confuse people
cause modified devices might cause problems that we do not get for people who have had patience
to not modified there devices or install any Beta versions of android.
It is not much information at this point about what versions that it is compatible with
but it can be downloaded here
http://www.huaweiblog.de/android/mar...fiziell-final/
I think we are all eager to install this device but there is not much info
we simply need more people to try and confirm what works and not
I think most people in this thread will be on lollipop b331
So it would be nice if people could try and confirm if it works from this version
will all data be wiped ?
You need to do full backup ?
Let us know what problem you get into.
For more advanced rooting and hacking talking use the other thread
this thread is for people with non experience of that
I myself am on B513 and tried updating to the final marshmallow build yesterday and it did not work, i tried both methods of updating, using the dialer method would not even recognize there was an update on my sd card, the power button and volume up and down method started and got to about 5% and then failed. This was all also done on a clean Mate 7, no root or anything and I even reset and wiped the device before trying the update. Either I'm doing something wrong in the update process or this update does not work on B513. Any help would be great in figuring this update out!
Baseballace122112 said:
I myself am on B513 and tried updating to the final marshmallow build yesterday and it did not work, i tried both methods of updating, using the dialer method would not even recognize there was an update on my sd card, the power button and volume up and down method started and got to about 5% and then failed. This was all also done on a clean Mate 7, no root or anything and I even reset and wiped the device before trying the update. Either I'm doing something wrong in the update process or this update does not work on B513. Any help would be great in figuring this update out!
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This is really valuable information thanks I am in the same situation as you. I have not tried to update myself I want to make sure all this work before I start to backup and wipe my device as you might understand.
blackinfinity said:
This is really valuable information thanks I am in the same situation as you. I have not tried to update myself I want to make sure all this work before I start to backup and wipe my device as you might understand.
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So are you on B331 or B513?
B331
From what i have gathered, we may have a problem with the 'cust'. Aparently the verion that's around only works with C432 and some of us have C900 (you can easily check this in 'about phone/build number'. I hope someone with more knowledge can guide us
aldesal said:
From what i have gathered, we may have a problem with the 'cust'. Aparently the verion that's around only works with C432 and some of us have C900 (you can easily check this in 'about phone/build number'. I hope someone with more knowledge can guide us
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Does this mean we have to roll back to kitkat ?
blackinfinity said:
Does this mean we have to roll back to kitkat ?
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I upgraded from B513
bug on B522
Hello everyone I have noticed a bug under Marshmallow, some applications like facebook or twitter messenger does not run in the background and suddenly I not receive notifications if they are closed ( the same thing with B513 ) .
All the parameters are good , apps are "protected" and have all the permissions to do it ( run in background ) : it comes from Marshmallow or must wait for updated applications concerned ?
Second question , twice I managed to see integrated into the " phone " application during a call , the keys to Register the call or forward ... it lasted only 5/10 seconds and I unable to remember what I hit to make them appear .. you have an idea ?
Thank you (you and google translate )
we all know that huawei is the most incompetent out of all android oem's, but i dont think they're such idiots to release final version software with such restrictions to who can install it. the update demands too specific conditions to succeed.. i am on c900b331 and im sick of waiting. guys, even 4 years old nexus 4 works WAY better, more smooth and stable than mate 7. i guess we're just used to how it works but since few days im using iphone se and... i think i couldnt go back to huawei. this thing barely works compared to iphone.. still got the mate7, and nexus 4 and waiting to test out final marshmallow.
my concern is this whole b522 is not a stable final yet.
So far everything is running pretty smooth, updated from c900b513 to c900b522 and works great so far, only noticeable thing is the new health app and all but one theme is deleted, but they can easily be downloaded and added again if you want them, ram management is far better, I'll see how battery is tomorrow
If i install the UK fingerprint version here . Will the update still come to my phone? I see they have new updates now and oreo 8 is coming. Will i be able to install those from within the device or will i run into issues?
Also are there any issues using the UK rom over the US rom?
Also are there any better ways to enable the fingerprint sensor without install the UK version?
Does it also void warranty?
Thanks!
I'm in the US & I installed the UK ROM you link to above. It works as advertised. I wondered about receiving the update as well and read through the entire thread. It says you will be able to receive updates and you won't void your warranty since you are flashing official firmware. Of course that is just a post on an internet forum and carries no weight. Other than the warranty does it really matter? You can always update using Flashtool.
Yesterday I updated to 8.0 following this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/stock-8-0-root-recovery-t3747479 and now I have 8.0, my bootloader is unlocked, I have root, adaway, my phone passes safetynet, and most importantly it still works..
There are some subtle differences between N & O that have made it worthwhile. Sorry I can't be of more help, I can only share my positive experience.
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I'm in the US & I installed the UK ROM you link to above. It works as advertised. I wondered about receiving the update as well and read through the entire thread. It says you will be able to receive updates and you won't void your warranty since you are flashing official firmware. Of course that is just a post on an internet forum and carries no weight. Other than the warranty does it really matter? You can always update using Flashtool.
Yesterday I updated to 8.0 following this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/stock-8-0-root-recovery-t3747479 and now I have 8.0, my bootloader is unlocked, I have root, adaway, my phone passes safetynet, and most importantly it still works..
There are some subtle differences between N & O that have made it worthwhile. Sorry I can't be of more help, I can only share my positive experience.
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if you unlocked your bootloader, while you might be if there is an update, you can't just download and apply it from phone. If you're only interested in major android upgrade, this won't be a problem as at most we probably will only got one more android major version update (or none, it will be close to two years after device release).
If you are interested on monthly security update though, this could be a pain to flash manually each month
So if i just install the UK via the xperia flash tool method here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/fingerprint-reader-version-flash-t3470154) , will i get OTA updates for security patches? Or do i have to manually do it every time?
mystycs said:
So if i just install the UK via the xperia flash tool method here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/how-to/fingerprint-reader-version-flash-t3470154) , will i get OTA updates for security patches? Or do i have to manually do it every time?
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Yes, you will receive updates as long as you do not tamper with the bootloader or recovery. If for some reason it doesn't work you can always use flashtool to apply an update. The convenience of the fingerprint reader working far outweighs the inconvenience of having to update a phone with a computer.