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Most likely dumping my Nexus for Vibrant....

Even with 2.1 its pretty amazing phone, I cant even image when all the accessories along with 2.2 arrive......
Here is my quick review:
1. Will scratch easy if it falls. Needs a case.
2. VERY slippery and needs rubberized backing....this is a must
3. Screen is obviously amazing
4. Camera is also amazing. It has more features then my pocket camera ! Panoramic Mode is VERY cool and easy to use
5. TouchWiz or whatever is cool too, I like it. Dialer is better then Nexus. Camera is excellent. All Samsung Widgets SUCK big time. (I miss stock Android news widget)
6. Rooted super easy and uninstalled all JUNK.
7. It includes extra back cover.....dont know why because its the crappiest material they could have picked
8. Headset is 100 times better then the one came with Nexus.
9. Music player is simply THE BEST Android had to date. (5.1 surround setting, equalizers)
10. Speakerphone is excellent.
11. No noise cancellation. Although, I dont know if its needed. I saw a vid on iPhone 4 and it didnt look like noise cancellation was working.....
12. No LED notifications, but devs are working to get softkeys backlight to act like one
13. Even though the camera is good and low light performance is also good, its still missing the Flash which is a pretty big deal I think.
14. The backing is SO cheap that maybe it makes the whole phone look cheap.....need to replace it ASAP and then talk about its quality.....
15. Like i said before, Sammy widgets are pure junk !
Cant comment on battery. Power button on the side doesnt bother me. Size-wise its very nice, just a bit bigger then Nexus (not even close to HUGE Evo etc....). So far no problems and everything works like a charm.....I am aware of GPS issue but there is a fix already, so no worries here.....Oh and the signal bar seems to be VERY inaccurate, bars go left and right, looks like software problem, not like iPhone....
here is a stress test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3by5u9ax2EU&feature=related

How are you switching? (Cost-wise speaking.) Are you just buying the phone outright?

I'm not going to touch another phone for a while. I'm mostly interested in Motorola's 2ghz smartphone in the end of 2010.

1. No LED flash
2. No LED notifications
3. No Froyo
4. No Vanilla android
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No Samsung Moment for me...
The Nexus One makes it quite easy to wait for the perfect phone

ap3604 said:
1. No LED flash
2. No LED notifications
3. No Froyo
4. No Vanilla android
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No Samsung Moment for me...
The Nexus One makes it quite easy to wait for the perfect phone
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^im with those guys

The vibrant is nice. The battery life is good especially for a 4" screen. You are corrext touchwiz is okay at best.
The gpu on this phone is amazing. I was just playing the racing game ripped from the droid x and it was smooth as silk.
Just get a good task killer. So much ram you can open like 50-75 apps before it starts auto killing them.
The camera is meh. But normal for a phone. The 720p video recording is pretty nice.
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Bought Nexus for full price, bought this on 2 year contract for $200 bucks...
Froyo is coming in Korea as soon as August and to all other countries soon after that. The phone is few days old in USA, soon there will be stock Android OS for it. This is pretty much the first phone thats available in Asia, Europe, and on all 4 carries in USA so I hope this equals good dev support.
Other things to note: 16GB internal storage, 720p very good quality recording, camera setting have a bug and some settings dont get saved, custom fonts for full OS, custom vibration sensation (very nice feature IMO)
I remember back in the days when Nexus got released........So many people were upset about 3g issue, touch screen, camera...etc.......this is including me....well I am not that upset now as I was with Nexus. But i have to agree, external materials used in Nexus are on TOP

oh yeah about 2ghz phones......I read that those will be battery hungry compared to 1ghz. and therefore will be for those who need "2nd laptop". I need my battery to last at least 1 day, and Hummingbird is overkill for me already

kolyan said:
Bought Nexus for full price, bought this on 2 year contract for $200 bucks...
But i have to agree, external materials used in Nexus are on TOP
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2 year contract?! Ugh...
Glad you agree though with the Nexus One being on top

I was thinking about dumping my nexus for the vibrant but mainly because the 16gbs internal because I have 32gbs right now and its full. But I like HTC and would always pick it over Samsung and the vibrant looked too cheap for me and the no flash. I'm good with my nexus for now. Hopefully T-Mobile gets a new HTC android with keyboard with equal or better specs then the nexus or maybe Motorola but seeing wat they did to the droid x bootloader Idk.

You guys should get the Epic 4G, if you are on Sprint or would change. It's the best of the Galaxy S line (Galaxy S Pro).

irishrally said:
You guys should get the Epic 4G, if you are on Sprint or would change. It's the best of the Galaxy S line (Galaxy S Pro).
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2 year contract at minimum $80/mo? Pass...

ap3604 said:
2 year contract at minimum $80/mo? Pass...
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Yeah, I love my Tmobile no contract plan, actually will save money buying the N1 unsubsidized due to cheaper plan over the two years.

irishrally said:
Yeah, I love my Tmobile no contract plan, actually will save money buying the N1 unsubsidized due to cheaper plan over the two years.
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Me too!
Your a wise man irishrally.
Saving $720 over a 2 yr period with my N1 over a Epic = some serious cheese

Well for me its all the same, with contract or without....i am staying with tmo anyway and for $80 I have everything unlimited

Bad signal
Bad wifi
Bad buggy software
Laggy because of software
No flash
No latest android
Doubt that it will officialy get android 3.0
Touchwiz... it makes me barf
In my country galaxy s will go for 15 euro/2 years
Noise cancelation on Nexus rules... it just works
5.1 surround? Why the hell u need that? Mono speaker..
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mkrmec said:
Bad signal
Bad wifi
Bad buggy software
Laggy because of software
No flash
No latest android
Doubt that it will officialy get android 3.0
Touchwiz... it makes me barf
In my country galaxy s will go for 15 euro/2 years
Noise cancelation on Nexus rules... it just works
5.1 surround? Why the hell u need that? Mono speaker..
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Signal same as on nexus maybe better
Wifi also the same
Mine is not laggy, but if laggs, switch to anyther launcher
2.2 os is coming soon
Touchwiz can be replaced

2.2 coming soon? So is gingerbread for the nexus. Lol

[Q] For ex-Nexus S owners: How do you feel about your Atrix?

I'm interested in your impressions as ex-Nexus S users when you made the switch to the Atrix. I'm struggling between both phones myself.
The way I see it, Nexus S with the new kernels and ROMs is faster and smoother than the Atrix in real-life use. Also, the SAMOLED display seems better than the qHD display. Finally, with the Nexus S I'll be the first to get Ice Cream when it hits in two months, while the Atrix will get it when Motorola decides to finish it, in maybe 10 months... so I'll be missing out on Gtalk video chat and GPU acceleration, not to mention the many games that need to be updated to run on the Atrix (e.g reckless driving, gameloft 3D suite...etc)
However, with the Atrix, I can play the new Tegra Zone games, have a fingerprint unlock option, and 720p (upgradeable to 1080p) video shooting (the Nexus S only shoots 480p).
So, what's your impression?

Keep your Nexus S then. Atrix is still no ready after using.
The colors of the LCD aren't correct. Yellow looks greenish lime.
Camera is pretty pink when in door. High resolution doesn't mean quality video nor photos. IPhone 4 is the best in overall performance. Built in HDR simple fast shooting without going menu after menu. You want menu and configuration download apps from app store. Android is still always beta to me. Google are letting you guys to pay as beta testers.
I own captivate atrix Samsung focus and iPhone. Android hacks are mostly trying to catch-up on good experience on par of what iOs has designed well
If you want freedom jailbreak. But I think Android is mostly a toy rather than productive device for some serious work. CITRIX works perfectly on Atrix and iOS with HDMI out now. Now that's some serious work.
Finally backup and restore. That's totally a joke on Android devices. Without rooting you can't backup and restore the apps and you can't easily syn with the computers. Only Geeks and developers are able to do the backup restore via titanium backup while iOS is a click and work and you can go back to concentrate on your research or work. Screw android in that area.
ANDROID is still toy and iOS is the mainstream quality assurance.
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I've had both. The thing that made me put the nexus s for sale is that I couldn't use 3g on at&t. It was only edge. If a 3g versjon for att came out I may have to second guess myself. Another thing that really bothers me about the atrix after using it for only 24 hrs (I got it yesterday) is the font icons and everything seem abnormally small. Maybe its just me but I've used every android phone on att and tmobile and the nexus s and atrix both have 4" screens but look at the tiny atrix font. It bothers me and I can't find a hack or anything to change it. That being said I used the webtop hack last night and it was awsome being able to watch hulu and browse the web on my 55" led with no problems. Also the fingerprint reader ii exremely convenient and battery life is great also. I went from nexus s to inspire 4g and now atrix... and honestaly they all have their great points and I can't decide between the three. Its all about what you'll use it for I guess. if the atrix had sense ui it would be perfect.
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Square, I wish you would stop calling it a beta. If you're going to bash Android, especially the Atrix in, why are you on these forums?
Most of us have had or own an iOS device, or have used one extensively. We don't need you here preaching to us about how amazing it is because you can use iTunes to back it up. Whoopdy damn dooie. Also, the OP didn't ask about how good iOS is compared to Android. He wants to how we feel about the Atrix
To the OP:
I haven't owned a Nexus S, but my brother-in-law does, and I've had a chance to use it thoroughly. I love my Atrix compared to it. Just keep in mind that this one of Moto's newest devices. This isn't a Google Experience phone. Moto has promised that they would deliver a response to our bootloader situation, but we'll see. If updates really mean that much to you, than this might not be the phone for you. Again, keep in mind this phone was only released less than a month ago.
As for the display, it looks and feels great to me. I don't notice any off-greens like some people say. Might be because I'm not looking for imperfections as closely as they are. I came from a 3GS, so any newer display will look better than that xD
One of the major selling points were the docks. I bought the car dock and HD dock when I purchased the phone. I'm going to go pick up a laptop dock later on when I go to buy the Inspire. Now that'll get you some looks from your co-workers or classmates
Once again, if you desire custom ROMs, then I'd buy elsewhere for now. I'm going to purchase an Inspire and the laptop dock tomorrow when I go to the AT&T store as my backup phone, which I'm free to modify however I want.
And like an above poster stated, no 3G on AT&T with the S.

jthornton71707 said:
I've had both. The thing that made me put the nexus s for sale is that I couldn't use 3g on at&t. It was only edge. If a 3g versjon for att came out I may have to second guess myself. Another thing that really bothers me about the atrix after using it for only 24 hrs (I got it yesterday) is the font icons and everything seem abnormally small. Maybe its just me but I've used every android phone on att and tmobile and the nexus s and atrix both have 4" screens but look at the tiny atrix font. It bothers me and I can't find a hack or anything to change it. That being said I used the webtop hack last night and it was awsome being able to watch hulu and browse the web on my 55" led with no problems. Also the fingerprint reader ii exremely convenient and battery life is great also. I went from nexus s to inspire 4g and now atrix... and honestaly they all have their great points and I can't decide between the three. Its all about what you'll use it for I guess. if the atrix had sense ui it would be perfect.
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the Atrix has the highest resolution screen of any Android phone to date and in the near future. Thats why fonts are smaller. There are some screen res programs you can use to increase font sizes I believe...

squarejp said:
bunch of useless android bashing and ios fellating.
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Why are you even here if you just bash Android and talk up iOS?

squarejp said:
Keep your Nexus S then. Atrix is still no ready after using.
The colors of the LCD aren't correct. Yellow looks greenish lime.
Camera is pretty pink when in door. High resolution doesn't mean quality video nor photos. IPhone 4 is the best in overall performance. Built in HDR simple fast shooting without going menu after menu. You want menu and configuration download apps from app store. Android is still always beta to me. Google are letting you guys to pay as beta testers.
I own captivate atrix Samsung focus and iPhone. Android hacks are mostly trying to catch-up on good experience on par of what iOs has designed well
If you want freedom jailbreak. But I think Android is mostly a toy rather than productive device for some serious work. CITRIX works perfectly on Atrix and iOS with HDMI out now. Now that's some serious work.
Finally backup and restore. That's totally a joke on Android devices. Without rooting you can't backup and restore the apps and you can't easily syn with the computers. Only Geeks and developers are able to do the backup restore via titanium backup while iOS is a click and work and you can go back to concentrate on your research or work. Screw android in that area.
ANDROID is still toy and iOS is the mainstream quality assurance.
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You're probably not a very smart guy, are you?
Rooting different Android phones really ins't that hard. If you think you need to be a geek or dev to root and install Titanium Backup, you may actually be quite stupid.
Anyways, the truth is, you can be a five years old and work an Iphone easily. For Android, IMO, it's easy too, but you do have to know a little more of what you are doing and be decently smart in order to be able to do neat stuff on it, and really make it the way you want it. If you made it through middle school, you should be able to find out in less then an hour how to root your phone, epically with guides that explain with step by step instructions how...
So, my guess with you is either one, you don't own an Android phone, or two, you're in middle school.
And what the hell is wrong with your grammar? It looks to me you're Chinese and translated your trolling to English.

Do you know of any? I can't find anything at all
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worth leaving iPhone 4 for the Atrix?

Just wondering. I love my iPhone 4 and all, just looking for a better UI, and the beefed up specs on this phone makes me drool, also flash player! I am looking for something a bit faster, and just something new and fresh and maybe something with a bit more features than the iPhone. Wondering if anyone came from the iPhone to the Atrix and is regretting or loving it? My main concern is battery life and compatibility with apps, i was reading somewhere that apps crash a lot cause of its dual core processor?

Android>iOs I'd rather have an og droid then an iphone
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I decided to make the jump from iPhone 4. Never thought I'd be this happy! Does everything my jailbroken iPhone can without having to be rooted. Love the features: HD recording and HDMI out (1080p soon!), fingerprinter unlock, dual core proc (haven't noticed any unstable apps yet), man the list goes on and I'm finding something new to love about this phone every day.
I've owned every generation of iPhone and figured it's time to jump ship. Had a WP7 for a few months but it is still in its infancy (Come on MS, you can do it!) and did not have the features I needed to say good bye to Apple (turn-by-turn nav, flashlight, copy/paste to name a few). The Atrix 4G just blew my expectations out of the water. I kinda assumed Android OS would anyhow...
I just REALLY hope Motorola and AT&T stays committed to the updates on this one, namely 4G support. Otherwise, yea, this phone would make Batman jealous.

I made that exact switch you're contemplating.... and let me just say that i haven't looked back. Yea, the screen might not be quite as nice (still nice for a phone by any terms), but there are so many things i like more about the Atrix than the iPhone 4... flash being one of them.... that i don't even miss it. That, and you can quite easily sell an iPhone 4 on eBay for $400+.... even more if unlocked. Actually sold mine just jailbroken for $451 to some dude in Russia. Sadly it got lost in the wonders of USPS and never made it to him.... so now i'm waiting for the paperwork to get the insured amount back.
I've had apps crash on occasion.... and i've also had the phone completely lock up..... but nothing close to "a lot". Every once in a while, maybe. Responsiveness isn't quite on-par to the iPhone 4 homescreen switching wise, but that doesn't really bother me. My other favorite thing about not being a fruit phone owner anymore is NO ITUNES REQUIREMENT! That alone is a freeing feeling. Just slap files onto your phone as if it were a hard drive, and you're on your way.
Battery life can be tricky.... but the main thing to remember is the more widgets you have, and the more active they are, the faster it'll drain. The first day i had it, i basically left the majority of the widgets up.... and i was at 50% battery life within hours. multiple recharges helped.... and not really using many widgets helped a LOT..... can usually go for at least a day now.... but lets face it, how many of us don't plug our phone in every night anyway?
Just remembered another + for Android....... SWYPE!

elementaldragon said:
I made that exact switch you're contemplating.... and let me just say that i haven't looked back. Yea, the screen might not be quite as nice (still nice for a phone by any terms), but there are so many things i like more about the Atrix than the iPhone 4... flash being one of them.... that i don't even miss it. That, and you can quite easily sell an iPhone 4 on eBay for $400+.... even more if unlocked. Actually sold mine just jailbroken for $451 to some dude in Russia. Sadly it got lost in the wonders of USPS and never made it to him.... so now i'm waiting for the paperwork to get the insured amount back.
I've had apps crash on occasion.... and i've also had the phone completely lock up..... but nothing close to "a lot". Every once in a while, maybe. Responsiveness isn't quite on-par to the iPhone 4 homescreen switching wise, but that doesn't really bother me. My other favorite thing about not being a fruit phone owner anymore is NO ITUNES REQUIREMENT! That alone is a freeing feeling. Just slap files onto your phone as if it were a hard drive, and you're on your way.
Battery life can be tricky.... but the main thing to remember is the more widgets you have, and the more active they are, the faster it'll drain. The first day i had it, i basically left the majority of the widgets up.... and i was at 50% battery life within hours. multiple recharges helped.... and not really using many widgets helped a LOT..... can usually go for at least a day now.... but lets face it, how many of us don't plug our phone in every night anyway?
Just remembered another + for Android....... SWYPE!
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Thanks for the input guys this is helping I am worried about the MotoBlur.. I really liked the Sense UI when I tested both phones at the store (inspire vs atrix). I don't want the inspire those because it's specs aren't that much better for one, but two it has no front facing camera. Also realized it had no accelerometer? Found that a bit odd, not a requirement. As long as I have my netflix app, my yahoo messenger/skype/tango *For video chat*, meebo, facebook, my games I should be good I think Android has these, as my friends said it has most of the big commercial apps the iPhone does.

I switched from the iPhone 4 to the Atrix. The main reason why I made the switch is because i felt "trapped" with iOS, although its a great UI. I just wanted something more customizable. The only thing I miss is having the iPod music player, the 'Retina' display, and the battery life. But other than that, the Atrix allows me to customize my phone more than the iPhone (not a fan of Motoblur). The music player for the phone is pretty decent, but I use doubletwist instead. I feel like the iPhone 4 keyboard was slightly more responsive, but maybe thats just me. And after the most recent update to the phone, the battery life of my phone is much better than it use to be. But overall, I'm satisfied with the switch and I probably won't even consider going back to iOS unless they actually revolutionize the phone. But in the end, its all up to you and which phone you're more comfortable with.

I wouldn't expect anything "revolutionary" anytime soon. They've essentially been running the same OS for the past few years now, and i don't see any changes happening. They're basically making anything that runs iOS idiot-proof. Like how it doesn't have any app drawer, and instead has everything right out in the open. If they make it too complex, or change something too much, they might lose some of their sheep. Look how long it took them to implement a way to categorize applications by what they're used for. This newfangled contraption called a "Folder".
tripleh3lix: i wouldn't worry about Motoblur. It's not entirely THAT bad once you've used it for a short while... and if you're still not happy.... use a different launcher. That's the beauty of having an Android device as opposed to an iOS device. Now if only we had an unlocked bootloader, could do away with Motoblur entirely, instead of just having it lingering in the background.

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I wouldn't expect anything "revolutionary" anytime soon. They've essentially been running the same OS for the past few years now, and i don't see any changes happening. They're basically making anything that runs iOS idiot-proof. Like how it doesn't have any app drawer, and instead has everything right out in the open. If they make it too complex, or change something too much, they might lose some of their sheep. Look how long it took them to implement a way to categorize applications by what they're used for. This newfangled contraption called a "Folder".
tripleh3lix: i wouldn't worry about Motoblur. It's not entirely THAT bad once you've used it for a short while... and if you're still not happy.... use a different launcher. That's the beauty of having an Android device as opposed to an iOS device. Now if only we had an unlocked bootloader, could do away with Motoblur entirely, instead of just having it lingering in the background.
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Hmm.. you guys are really tempting me haha. I already put up an ad on craigslist to trade an Atrix for an iPhone 4. We'll see what I can get and what decent offers I come across.

I just rooted it and froze the majority of the bloat and its bloody fast. Good battery too
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I just rooted it and froze the majority of the bloat and its bloody fast. Good battery too
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What does rooting it mean? also what does "freezing" mean? haha
also this guy wants to trade but wanted a 32gb model so he wants extra cash for the phone or an extra or two.. not sure what else to give him but a couple of extra cases.. *sigh*

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Thanks for the input guys this is helping I am worried about the MotoBlur.. I really liked the Sense UI when I tested both phones at the store (inspire vs atrix). I don't want the inspire those because it's specs aren't that much better for one, but two it has no front facing camera. Also realized it had no accelerometer? Found that a bit odd, not a requirement. As long as I have my netflix app, my yahoo messenger/skype/tango *For video chat*, meebo, facebook, my games I should be good I think Android has these, as my friends said it has most of the big commercial apps the iPhone does.
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my opinion motoblur>sense

Don't craigslist it for a trade. Better off eBay-ing it. You're basically asking for a straight up trade on a phone when that iPhone could easily go for at least $350-400+. Unless you're not eligible for an upgrade, I wouldn't think of trading. I forgot to mention that the iPhone 4 I sold for $450 was also only a 16GB model.
Edit: and forgot to mention... "rooting" is akin to the iPhone's "jailbreaking"... And by freezing, he basically means he stopped motoblur from running, since even if you use a different launcher, it's still running in the background, using some resources.
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Don't craigslist it for a trade. Better off eBay-ing it. You're basically asking for a straight up trade on a phone when that iPhone could easily go for at least $350-400+. Unless you're not eligible for an upgrade, I wouldn't think of trading. I forgot to mention that the iPhone 4 I sold for $450 was also only a 16GB model.
Edit: and forgot to mention... "rooting" is akin to the iPhone's "jailbreaking"... And by freezing, he basically means he stopped motoblur from running, since even if you use a different launcher, it's still running in the background, using some resources.
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I figured it was something close, but wasn't entirely sure And I'm thinking of ebaying it before I trade. My contract is not up yet and all, that's why I'm not trading it, also gonna save up money now for a new phone and if there isn't one in June, I will get one by the end of this year from AT&T. I may look into the eBay if I can't find a decent enough of a trade.

U are going to be disappointed lots of stuff doesn't work on atrix , no Netflix, skype, slow charge when u in use, screen is blurry on top brightness man every android phone I got all of the are still missing lots of thing comparing to iPhone. I love android it's just all of the phone's are not made high quality and all this manufacturers are putting their **** ui on the and making the phones worse don't buy it , or buy it and I'll see lots of staff is missing comparing to the iPhone 4.

Personally I wouldn't leave iPhone 4 for Atrix (but then I have both phones so I have the luxury of playing with both phones). While Atrix looks great on paper, I think it has failed to live up to expectations. The screen is a disappointment, UI is annoying, camera sucks, and the browser is laggy.
I don't feel like Android is running smoothly on Tegra right now, the chip maybe too new for everything to be optimized. Perhaps continuous development by the community will change things for the better, but right now, I wouldn't do it.

I got the Atrix instead of using my upgrade to go from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4, and I am very happy I made the change. I have had more fun in the last 3 weeks playing around with the Atrix than I ever did with an iPhone.
Are there problems with the Atrix............yes...............but every phone has problems (think iPhone 4 antenna for one).
If you are like me, and want something you can play around with, you need an Android phone!

I left an iphone 4 for my atrix. No looking back here, also did a trade on craigslist. Traded bare iphone 4 (only with generic usb cable) for atrix with box and all accessories +4gb sd card + $70. I was happy. My iphone had a few nicks on the plastic bezel too. Plus my atrix came with invisible shield.

I have the iPhone 4 which I'm using to type this and though it may not quite be as fun to play with as a nice android phone I don't think I'm ready to switch. I had the original moto droid and the Samsung captivate in the past and liked them but nothing beat the retina display and stability of the iPhone 4. I do miss having a swype keyboard though like the cappy has. I'd wait until the Samsung infuse 4g gets released or the AT&T version of the galaxy s ii comes out or wait to see how nice the new iPhone is before switching. Plus I'm not eligible to upgrade until June of 2012 but there are ways around that.

Went from iPhone 4 to Atrix and back to iPhone 4. Its all personal pref really, I personally felt the qHD screen was a gimmick, and the battery life was sup par for what I expected it to be. (and the lack of 4g/locked bootloader, you can wait but the way I turn around phones, meh) However, I decided to go with an AT&T Nexus S in lieu of both. had that on T-Mobile and loved it.

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Thanks for the input guys this is helping I am worried about the MotoBlur.. I really liked the Sense UI when I tested both phones at the store (inspire vs atrix). I don't want the inspire those because it's specs aren't that much better for one, but two it has no front facing camera. Also realized it had no accelerometer? Found that a bit odd, not a requirement. As long as I have my netflix app, my yahoo messenger/skype/tango *For video chat*, meebo, facebook, my games I should be good I think Android has these, as my friends said it has most of the big commercial apps the iPhone does.
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If I was you I would go get the Nexus S that just came out for AT&T. No Bloatware and pure google. I flashed a new radio and I am getting Consistant upload Speeds of 1MBs or higher.
Plus you don't have any Bloatware and all updates come from Google.

SGS II is the best...

Ive bought a Note and today a Galaxy Nexus and they all go back...
Nothing to compare with the S2...

Can you be more precise on what you dislike?

on note:
+display size for browsing
-laggy and slower comperd to s2
-size, im 193cm but its too big for beeing a mobile phone
on galaxy nexus:
+display it looks really georgous
+videocam can zoom on fullhd and shows more
-ics at this moment (mods,app support,flash etc) is not better then gingerbread
-microsd card
Galaxy S2 is still the best one, the note and nexus only have a larger screens with higher res. And this is it.
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How is the note laggier? I thought it was an overclocked S2
How was the battery life on the note and nexus?
I am curious since I was thinking of changing

Have to admit having an s2 with an sd card slot is brilliant,why on earth they didn't see that as a plus I'll never know!
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How is the note laggier? I thought it was an overclocked S2
How was the battery life on the note and nexus?
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The notes battery was really better compared to the s2. my s2 survives on heavy useage on a office day 8 hr, the note could add 3-4 hrs... on the nexus i dont know.
The note is lagerif you use it daily as a mobile device, youre not able to use it with one hand...
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so the note is laggier becoz of its size limitation in regards to physical manipulation, not the cpu processing power. is that what u mean?
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audino said:
-ics at this moment (mods,app support,flash etc) is not better then gingerbread
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I'd like to comment on this and say that after the SGN has been released, the hype has gone down for me. Being a new OS/phone there seem to be a plethora of bugs flying around, with small annoyances starting to come out.
As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".

shinji21 said:
so the note is laggier becoz of its size limitation in regards to physical manipulation, not the cpu processing power.
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yes only the screen and size are larger...
ziggyboy said:
As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".
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+1

I have a note and s2. With2.3.6 firmware the note performance is more or less like the s2. Screen is better than the s2 and unless you have small hands it's very comfortable to use. Default CPU speed is 1.4 GHz which is enough to handle the extra pixels.
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ziggyboy said:
I'd like to comment on this and say that after the SGN has been released, the hype has gone down for me. Being a new OS/phone there seem to be a plethora of bugs flying around, with small annoyances starting to come out.
As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".
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I dont know about ICS yet, but honeycomb experience in tablets is better than gingerbread/froyo, beyond cosmetics.
If anyone want always the same can buy apple

ziggyboy said:
I'd like to comment on this and say that after the SGN has been released, the hype has gone down for me. Being a new OS/phone there seem to be a plethora of bugs flying around, with small annoyances starting to come out.
As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".
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I dont agree about ICS being the same as installing a new Launcher. Go watch some more vids about ICS. You see changes in the phone app, in the calander app, in the browser. The UI is more consistent in every part of the OS, giving it a modern and complete look. There are nice animations, also for switching from portrait to landscape view, the new notifications bar, etc etc.
Not to mention there should be new features.
The Engadget ICS review goes pretty deep in to ICS.
I usually am like you and very honest and direct about if I like something or its not such a big deal. But imo ICS is a very good and nice update.

jr866gooner said:
Have to admit having an s2 with an sd card slot is brilliant,why on earth they didn't see that as a plus I'll never know!
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From someone who owned an HTC Diamond, the omission of an SD Card is a stupid idea. From a manufacturer's point of view, you make one phone which can have an 8GB, 16GB or 32GB extra memory which can be plugged in or (like Apple) manufacturer 3 variations of the exact same phone.

audino said:
on note:
+display size for browsing
-laggy and slower comperd to s2
-size, im 193cm but its too big for beeing a mobile phone
on galaxy nexus:
+display it looks really georgous
+videocam can zoom on fullhd and shows more
-ics at this moment (mods,app support,flash etc) is not better then gingerbread
-microsd card
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umm most of the things u point out is common sense ? couldnt u have known that before getting them ?
for example the size ... yes its big ..... didnt u know this >?????
yes ICS isnt better in the department because its NEW didnt u know this ether ?
no microsd card .... yeah couldnt u have known this from the spec page on samsung ??
this is one of the strangest threads

Interesting opinions, for me the Note is ruled out straight away it is simply too big for a mobile and frankly i think it looks a bit silly walking around with something that size stuck to your ear.
The Nexus i would be more interested in but the lack of SD rules out me getting that straight off,what were Samsung thinking
Actually i don't know why Samsung are even bothering releasing more and more smartphones trying to rival the SGSII, i hope it's not a case of quantity as opposed to quality,churning out a new smartphone every few months for me isn't the way to go, if i were Samsung i would've waited until Feb 2012 and released the SGSIII complete with ICS and watch as sales rocket, lets be honest the Note and Galaxy will be lucky to achieve even a 1/3 of the sales the SGSII has done,only the wealthy and those who are really obsessed with having the latest smartphone regardless if it's the best or not will buy,judging by the reviews ive read both these phones are no better than the SGSII so why bother shelling out lots of money.

jonny68 said:
Interesting opinions, for me the Note is ruled out straight away it is simply too big for a mobile and frankly i think it looks a bit silly walking around with something that size stuck to your ear.
The Nexus i would be more interested in but the lack of SD rules out me getting that straight off,what were Samsung thinking
Actually i don't know why Samsung are even bothering releasing more and more smartphones trying to rival the SGSII, i hope it's not a case of quantity as opposed to quality,churning out a new smartphone every few months for me isn't the way to go, if i were Samsung i would've waited until Feb 2012 and released the SGSIII complete with ICS and watch as sales rocket, lets be honest the Note and Galaxy will be lucky to achieve even a 1/3 of the sales the SGSII has done,only the wealthy and those who are really obsessed with having the latest smartphone regardless if it's the best or not will buy,judging by the reviews ive read both these phones are no better than the SGSII so why bother shelling out lots of money.
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The note blows away the sg2 IMO. I have both and gave the sg2 to my girlfriend.e
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I'm not really impressed with ICS as well, UI change is a big thing especially the on screen buttons but I'm not a big fan. 2.1 and the Nexus one was still the most exciting thing to ever happen to android, big leap forward and the best smartphone available by a mile!

XDA mark said:
I dont agree about ICS being the same as installing a new Launcher. Go watch some more vids about ICS. You see changes in the phone app, in the calander app, in the browser. The UI is more consistent in every part of the OS, giving it a modern and complete look. There are nice animations, also for switching from portrait to landscape view, the new notifications bar, etc etc.
Not to mention there should be new features.
The Engadget ICS review goes pretty deep in to ICS.
I usually am like you and very honest and direct about if I like something or its not such a big deal. But imo ICS is a very good and nice update.
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These changes in phone, calendar, browser etc doesn't mean we'll see them on the s2. Samsung has their own, tw etc. To me these are small changes anyway. What more do I want in the phone app anyway!
I really don't get all the hype about ics as well. More just looking forward to see what the new Samsung ui looks like.
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The note blows away the sg2 IMO. I have both and gave the sg2 to my girlfriend.e
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Don't you think it's wayyyy too big to be a phone, christ you may as well go back to 1988 when you had yuppies walking about with the first ever mobile phone

I don't have tiny girl hands so no its not way too big at all. Fits perfectly, if anything the SG2 seems too small now. I could never go back to a phone smaller than 5". Unless you're a psuedo-male that's around 5'4"-5-5" with girl like hands, it should be no problem to handle. Hell even most average sized girls could handle it with ease.

Buy Galaxy S4 or stick with Nexus 4 and buy iPhone 5?

Update:
I've been thinking long and hard about this dilemma for the last few days and I've finally made my decision...I'm just going to wait.
Next month when the S4 and HTC One are both released, I'm going to take a trip to the AT&T store and make a hands-on comparison between them and the iPhone 5. I'm not loyal to any brand (I've owned devices from all three companies, all of which have been great), so I'm just going to pick the one I like the best. What really made me begin doubting my choice to get an iPhone 5 is the large price for the 64gb version I would have to purchase in order to store my music collection. $400 is ridiculous for any phone on contract. However, if the S4 has subpar audio quality and the HTC One underwhelms me or AT&T doesn't offer the 64gb variant, I will more than likely be splurging for the iPhone 5. But, after thinking about it, I really don't want to. While messing with my Nexus 4 today, it hit me hard how much fun I've had with Android. It's the most powerful, dev-friendly mobile OS and it truly gives the user the ability to make their phone their phone. And I feel like purchasing an iPhone would be going against everything I've enjoyed with Android, even if I still do have a Nexus 4. So, if at all possible, I'll be purchasing either the S4 or the HTC One (I'm growing fonder of it with each passing day). But if the storage and sound quality expectations I have cannot be met, I will more than likely buy an iPhone 5 simply for the fact that I made a promise to myself that my next smartphone would also be my MP3 player.
I'd like to thank everyone who posted in this thread and helped me make my decision. Many of you actually did bring up some very helpful points and made me seriously consider what I should use my upgrade on.
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I've been conflicted lately. My mom recently bought an iPhone 5 and I've sort of fallen in love with it. I'm no fan of the home screen (it is very, very boring), but the apps are amazing and the audio quality (both external and internal) is great. I'm also not very bothered by the screen size. In a way, moving to something smaller is slightly refreshing. However, it's still an iPhone and I think there's a possibility I could become bored with it...but when I consider this, I remember that I do have a Nexus 4, so I wouldn't be abandoning Android completely. And so here's my idea:
Option one - Keep Nexus 4 (I'm keeping it either way) and buy a Galaxy S4):
Benefits:
Both run Android, though one is skinned with many new features
The Galaxy S4 is a true flagship and should excel in all areas the Nexus 4 doesn't (camera, etc)
I'm sticking with one platform
Negatives:
Android is getting a little old to me and the Galaxy S4 might bore me even more than an iPhone 5 (I'm eagerly awaiting Key Lime Pie; the ICS/Jelly Bean look is wearing thin on me)
The S4 with the S600 (the one I'll be getting since I live in the states) will not have as good audio quality as the iPhone 5 (internal or external)
The Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade over the Nexus 4 and could even be considered a "needless purchase" (not that I really care; I make a ton of those)
Option two - Keep Nexus 4 and buy an iPhone 5:
Benefits:
I get to keep up with the two largest mobile platforms
When I finally get a Mac Mini, I'll have integration with it
The apps are great
Audio quality is great
Build quality is amazing
I won't have to wait for updates through the carrier
I could keep up with Android through my Nexus 4
The battery life is probably longer than the S4's despite having a smaller battery
iOS is really smooth and browsing is honestly a pleasure (not that it's not on Android; I just find it to be a bit better on the iPhone 5)
If I end up hating it, I can sell it and buy a Galaxy S4 (I would buy a 64gb iPhone 5, so it would definitely cover the cost of the S4)
If I end up loving it and want to buy the next model, I can sell it on eBay at an 85% resale value (great thing about Apple products)
Negatives:
The iPhone 5 is six months old (I would have to sell it on eBay for the next model pretty soonish)
I'd maybe have to rebuy some apps
I would sort of be be betraying Android, an operating system that I truly love
I'd have to find a way to wifi-tether (but this might be a problem on a carrier version of the S4, also)
Anyway, can anyone help me out with my decision? And please don't say anything like "Get the S4! iPhones suck!" Actually observe what I have written above and help me decide what the best choice for me is. Because right now I am ridiculously confused and have no idea what I should use my upgrade on.

Only you can decide what's best for you. Follow your gut.

jtc276 said:
I've been conflicted lately. My mom recently bought an iPhone 5 and I've sort of fallen in love with it. I'm no fan of the home screen (it is very, very boring), but the apps are amazing and the audio quality (both external and internal) is great. I'm also not very bothered by the screen size. In a way, moving to something smaller is slightly refreshing. However, it's still an iPhone and I think there's a possibility I could become bored with it...but when I consider this, I remember that I do have a Nexus 4, so I wouldn't be abandoning Android completely. And so here's my idea:
Option one - Keep Nexus 4 (I'm keeping it either way) and buy a Galaxy S4):
Benefits:
Both run Android, though one is skinned with many new features
The Galaxy S4 is a true flagship and should excel in all areas the Nexus 4 doesn't (camera, etc)
I'm sticking with one platform
Negatives:
Android is getting a little old to me and the Galaxy S4 might bore me even more than an iPhone 5 (I'm eagerly awaiting Key Lime Pie; the ICS/Jelly Bean look is wearing thin on me)
The S4 with the S600 (the one I'll be getting since I live in the states) will not have as good audio quality as the iPhone 5 (internal or external)
The Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade over the Nexus 4 and could even be considered a "needless purchase" (not that I really care; I make a ton of those)
Option two - Keep Nexus 4 and buy an iPhone 5:
Benefits:
I get to keep up with the two largest mobile platforms
When I finally get a Mac Mini, I'll have integration with it
The apps are great
Audio quality is great
Build quality is amazing
I won't have to wait for updates through the carrier
I could keep up with Android through my Nexus 4
The battery life is probably longer than the S4's despite having a smaller battery
iOS is really smooth and browsing is honestly a pleasure (not that it's not on Android; I just find it to be a bit better on the iPhone 5)
If I end up hating it, I can sell it and buy a Galaxy S4 (I would buy a 64gb iPhone 5, so it would definitely cover the cost of the S4)
If I end up loving it and want to buy the next model, I can sell it on eBay at an 85% resale value (great thing about Apple products)
Negatives:
The iPhone 5 is six months old (I would have to sell it on eBay for the next model pretty soonish)
I'd maybe have to rebuy some apps
I would sort of be be betraying Android, an operating system that I truly love
I'd have to find a way to wifi-tether (but this might be a problem on a carrier version of the S4, also)
Anyway, can anyone help me out with my decision? And please don't say anything like "Get the S4! iPhones suck!" Actually observe what I have written above and help me decide what the best choice for me is. Because right now I am ridiculously confused and have no idea what I should use my upgrade on.
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I would go with the Qualcomm S4. I personally see cyanogenmod as a must for my new phones. When I got my I9300, I didn't even check to see what the stock rom features were. Rooted it and install CM9 in 20 minutes. My main problem with the iPhone (don't know if it's changed) is the need for iTunes to sync your media. I much prefer to rip my CDs and drag and drop the flac files in conveniently organized folders. I had an old iPod where iTunes would take readable mp3 files like "My Favorite Song.mp3" and stick them in some obscure folder and give them weird names like a9wepjmcw.mp3. Not to mention for video files I like to keep them organized in a way I can understand. I just hate being tied down to iTunes for trivial things like loading new music, movies etc. Also, while you may not have to wait on a carrier for firmware updates, if rooting/jailbreaking means anything to you, you WILL be waiting for the newest jailbreak fix to come out. At least on android you have CM to take care of carrier updates. My SGS1 runs android 4.2. One of the biggest benefits I think of rooting/jailbreaking is just for the ad blockers. Makes a MUCH cleaner phone experience.
And, I think the whole build quality is highly overrated. As long as it doesn't scratch too easily I could care less whether the phone is made of the cheapest looking plastic or highly reflective aluminum. I buy my phones (when I can afford them) for the raw hardware power and CM, not really for the premium look. Sadly, I'm not due for a new phone at least until 64bit armv8 comes out in 2015? (Which ever comes later.)

AAccount said:
I would go with the Qualcomm S4. I personally see cyanogenmod as a must for my new phones. When I got my I9300, I didn't even check to see what the stock rom features were. Rooted it and install CM9 in 20 minutes. My main problem with the iPhone (don't know if it's changed) is the need for iTunes to sync your media. I much prefer to rip my CDs and drag and drop the flac files in conveniently organized folders. I had an old iPod where iTunes would take readable mp3 files like "My Favorite Song.mp3" and stick them in some obscure folder and give them weird names like a9wepjmcw.mp3. Not to mention for video files I like to keep them organized in a way I can understand. I just hate being tied down to iTunes for trivial things like loading new music, movies etc. Also, while you may not have to wait on a carrier for firmware updates, if rooting/jailbreaking means anything to you, you WILL be waiting for the newest jailbreak fix to come out. At least on android you have CM to take care of carrier updates. My SGS1 runs android 4.2. One of the biggest benefits I think of rooting/jailbreaking is just for the ad blockers. Makes a MUCH cleaner phone experience.
And, I think the whole build quality is highly overrated. As long as it doesn't scratch too easily I could care less whether the phone is made of the cheapest looking plastic or highly reflective aluminum. I buy my phones (when I can afford them) for the raw hardware power and CM, not really for the premium look. Sadly, I'm not due for a new phone at least until 64bit armv8 comes out in 2015? (Which ever comes later.)
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I completely agree with basically everything that you've said, but I already have two Nexus devices (the 4 and 7) so pure Android is always going to be accessible to me. Also, I sort of keep my entire music library in iTunes anyway. I just always have, even when I haven't owned Apple devices. Sometimes I'd use it alongside of another one such as MediaMonkey or Winamp, but I always found iTunes to be the simplest when it comes to managing music, burning CDs (am I the only person who still does this?), and finding new music.
As for audio quality, I usually go for strictly 320 Kbps MP3s. FLAC files are huge and I've never been able to notice a huge difference (maybe a slight one), so it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the hissing I get with the Qualcomm DAC on my Nexus 4. The rom/kernel I'm on increased the volume (making it about equal with the iPhone). However, at about 3/4 of the volume level, distortion kicks in. I'm worried that this will also be problem for the S4 considering the DAC from the S4 Pro to the S600 is probably the same. For probably two years now I have been dying to have all of my music locally on my phone. It hasn't been possible due to either hardware limitations (16gb of storage on the Nexus 4 is a no-go) or horrible DACs (Galaxy S2).
The more I think of it, the more I like the idea of the iPhone. I mean, the Galaxy S4 is by no means going to be bad phone. If I didn't have the Nexus 4 to keep up with Android, I'd buy it immediately. But I think this time around I'm going to try something different. I'm not 100% sure, yet. But probably 60% of me is leaning towards the 5.
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jtc276 said:
The Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade over the Nexus 4 and could even be considered a "needless purchase"
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If you think like this buy an iphone.

honestly, I think you should go for the iPhone.
the nexus 4 is a great device, and even though the S4 is much better (IMO) it's not worth keeping if you buy an S4,
I would say sell the nexus, get the S4 and the iPhone 5 ahah
but maybe you like the nexus more than I do
if I had the S4, I doubt I'd ever get the Nexus 4 even though I'd like to have multiple phones I think I'd be better off with the S4 and an iPhone

Kremata said:
If you think like this buy an iphone.
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Ok. Yes. The Galaxy S4 is better in many areas. However, if the Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade from the S3, it's definitely not a huge upgrade to the Nexus 4.
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PLUG313 said:
honestly, I think you should go for the iPhone.
the nexus 4 is a great device, and even though the S4 is much better (IMO) it's not worth keeping if you buy an S4,
I would say sell the nexus, get the S4 and the iPhone 5 ahah
but maybe you like the nexus more than I do
if I had the S4, I doubt I'd ever get the Nexus 4 even though I'd like to have multiple phones I think I'd be better off with the S4 and an iPhone
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I would much rather keep the Nexus 4 because it gets updates from Google and Key Lime Pie will be out pretty soon. However, I can understand why others would rather have the S4 than the Nexus 4 because of the hardware. But every time a new Android OS update is released, I get software envy, so it's best for me to keep a Nexus device.
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iPhone?
I would go for S4 as of now... Did you look at the benchies?

hell_storm2004 said:
iPhone?
I would S4 for now... Did you look at the benchies?
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No. Because I've never found benchmarks to be a good indication of real world usage. The iPhone 5 is ridiculously smooth. I was literally blown away when I realized how smooth it was compared to my Nexus 4 which I considered to be the smoothest phone I've ever used.

jtc276 said:
No. Because I've never found benchmarks to be a good indication of real world usage. The iPhone 5 is ridiculously smooth. I was literally blown away when I realized how smooth it was compared to my Nexus 4 which I considered to be the smoothest phone I've ever used.
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seriously, I think you should go for the iPhone
I know that deep inside you've made up your mind and want it
you've got a great android phone already

PLUG313 said:
seriously, I think you should go for the iPhone
I know that deep inside you've made up your mind and want it
you've got a great android phone already
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Just saying did you look at the benchies or not... not asking you to base your choice of phone out of it. Although it no matter a whole lot if the differences are marginal. But certainly does matter when the differences are huge!

hell_storm2004 said:
Just saying did you look at the benchies or not... not asking you to base your choice of phone out of it. Although it no matter a whole lot if the differences are marginal. But certainly does matter when the differences are huge!
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Yes. I did look at them. The S4 is around two times-faster (processor-wise) than the 5. However, you wouldn't be able to know that when actually using it.
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PLUG313 said:
seriously, I think you should go for the iPhone
I know that deep inside you've made up your mind and want it
you've got a great android phone already
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Yeah. I've pretty much made my mind up. I'm going to go with the 5. There's no point in having two great Android phones when I can I have one great Android phone and one great iOS phone. And I'll be switching between the two every now and then just to see how each of ecosystem is improving (I'm VERY excited for KLP and I hope that iOS 7 makes some UI changes).
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jtc276 said:
Yeah. I've pretty much made my mind up. I'm going to go with the 5. There's no point in having two great Android phones when I can I have one great Android phone and one great iOS phone. And I'll be switching between the two every now and then just to see how each of ecosystem is improving (I'm VERY excited for KLP and I hope that iOS 7 makes some UI changes).
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yeah, that's nice
just make sure you at least jailbreak it xD
what's KLP btw?

Have a mind of your own and decide for yourself. :good:

PLUG313 said:
yeah, that's nice
just make sure you at least jailbreak it xD
what's KLP btw?
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Key Lime Pie. AKA: Android 5.0
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Do whatever you want, who cares. (Excuse my honesty
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Omg I'm so considering this now that tmobile is selling the iPhone starting this April. I love android to death but the iPhone seems so smooth and stable. The only problem with the iPhone is no swiping keyboards and it had a terrible battery compared to the s4.
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Closed Source Project said:
Omg I'm so considering this now that tmobile is selling the iPhone starting this April. I love android to death but the iPhone seems so smooth and stable. The only problem with the iPhone is no swiping keyboards and it had a terrible battery compared to the s4.
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It has a smaller battery, but it's by no means terrible. The battery life on the 5 I've used has been better than most (or maybe all) of my past Android phones.
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