[Q] SBF and Boot Loader - Droid X General

So I bought a Droid X recently and rooted it using the z4root app. My next step would be to install Clockwork Recovery so I can backup my phone and start getting rid of some of the bloatware. My question is, if something happens to the phone and I need to send it in for replacement/repair. Does flashing the stock SBF completely restore the phone to factory original? Including the replacement of the Clockwork recovery with the stock bootloader.
Forgive me if this has been answered already, I wasn't able to find anything with the search function.

In my experience, yes. You will have to re-root and reinstall clockwork.

You will need koush (spelling) boot strap app as well
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[Q] Boot Loop Issues

Alright. Not new to rooting/flashing, all that jazz. I'm having an issue with my X boot looping, but I do a battery pull and it's fine.
I've actually sbf'ed (sp? lol) my phone and everything again to avoid this, thinking it was an issue with my process. Still getting booty loops.
So, I sbf'ed from froyo 2.2/fly x/tranquilty.
Here is what I've done, exact process.
-SBF'ed to stock 2.1
-Boot loop, pulled battery, rebooted into recovery, factory reset/clear cache (i know this one was necessary)
-Back to stock 2.1
-Used Easy Root method to root.
-moved SU from system/bin to system/xbin (to keep root before froyo update)
-downloaded Rom Manager from market, flashed CWR
-used Koush's bootloader apk
-downloaded 2.2 froyo from Rom Manager
-installed 2.2 froyo, booted back up.
First thing I did was download rom manager, backup my rom before flashing Fly X/Tranquility, Rom Manger rebooted me, threw me in a boot loop. Battery pulled, booted fine.
Only thing I can think of is I flashed CWR before using the bootloader apk, but not sure if that would even affect anything? Maybe clear cache partition in CWR might help something?
Any ideas? Thanks for your help in advance.
Try always using the "boot strap recovery" before rebooting from rom manager. See if that helps.
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citanes-26 said:
Try always using the "boot strap recovery" before rebooting from rom manager. See if that helps.
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so, use the bootstrap.apk everytime before I need to reboot into recovery?
Kinda redundant.
Do you use this method?
Thanks for the response btw.
when u sbf, ur suppose to factory reset/clear cache before booting up to avoid that bootloop.
and to avoid bootloop from happing with a new rom, your suppose to bootstrap ive been reading...
Yep, if you reboot or flash I always do the bootstrap, read alot of people having to do it. First thing I do before I try to backup or restore.
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cool, thanks for the responses guys.
i'll just keep boot strapping for the time being.
cant wait til we crack that sob.
BRUTAL BROCK said:
cool, thanks for the responses guys.
i'll just keep boot strapping for the time being.
cant wait til we crack that sob.
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lol
"-downloaded Rom Manager from market, flashed CWR"
I did this same thing too.... We gotta use bootstrap.
Please pardon my ignorance but what is bootstrap?
Droidx bootstrapper, its in the market. You have to use it to get into clockwork recovery since we still have a locked bootloader.
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[Q] Rom Manager/ Bootstrap help?

So I accidently flashed CW Recovery before I used bootstrap and now I can't boot into CW Recovery or create a backup. Any ideas?
Ive searched all over the place, Ive found some threads that describe what each do, but I guess Im just trying to understand the whole picture. I have the Bootstrap program on my phone, I also have Rom Manager (Im rooted and have SuperUser also.)
I guess where Im confused at is what to do with each of them.
On other phones Ive just went through Rom Manager, Flashed CW Recovery, created a backup then I was up and running.
Do I need to do this before running bootstrap, do I run bootstrap first?
Sorry for the rookie question, I guess this boot strap thing has me confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated
You have to use the bootstrap to get into clockwork recovery, run the first option in bootstrap, it should say "success" then use rom manager or the reboot recovery option. You need to do the bootstrap option every time you want to go to custom recovery.
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So is it bad I flashed the CW recovery before using bootstrap? If so how the heck do I fix it, lol
I flashed CW recovery before I hit bootstrap. Shows I have the current Recovery Image
If I hit "reboot into recovery" through Rom manager it doesnt do anything. If I hit "bootstrap recovery" through droid x bootstrapper it says success, but when i hit reboot recovery it doesnt do anything either...
power+home button on power up just brings me to stock recovery screen..
im lost
Try running the first option in bootstrapper again, same with reflashing clockwork... rom manager can boot to recovery.
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I tried that, still nothing...
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Would it have anything to do with me having the official 2.3.15 update already on my phone? Its rooted of course but even when I click S.U it opens up but its just a blank black screen and says S.U permissions at the top
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DrewDanger said:
Would it have anything to do with me having the official 2.3.15 update already on my phone? Its rooted of course but even when I click S.U it opens up but its just a blank black screen and says S.U permissions at the top
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something is wrong with your root. try to re-root your phone the first time you run bootstrapper and rom manager you need to give them permission and it looks like you haven't yet so they can't work right. redo your root and it should solve your issues. also i find i need to bootstrap recovery before each time i try to use rom manager. kinda a pain i use recovery from bootstrap more often as its the same thing.
So even though Im rooted with the stock 2.2 I need to re-root it? Like just download a one-click-root and do it all over?
Should I factory reset before I do this?
The thing is I got the phone from a friend and it already had S.U on it, I just dont know what program he used to root it and what not...neither does he.
http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&m=9209
Try this, its the new one click
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citanes-26 said:
http://alldroid.org/default.aspx?g=posts&m=9209
Try this, its the new one click
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I re-did the root with that and now it lets me boot into CW recovery! Your the man! Do you have paypal by any chance =) I'll gladly shoot you a tip!

Clockwork backup

What's the best way to create a full backup before flashing a rom? I have clockwork recovery installed and Droid x bootstrap. I flashed the clockwork recovery but it wont reboot into the recovery or create a backup of my current rom.
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crxin said:
What's the best way to create a full backup before flashing a rom? I have clockwork recovery installed and Droid x bootstrap. I flashed the clockwork recovery but it wont reboot into the recovery or create a backup of my current rom.
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On Gingerbread: I ran into a similar issue. In order for it to boot into bootstrap recovery for me I had to install Droid 2 Bootstrap recovery and bootstrap with that one for it to boot properly. I had issues with Clockworks recovery from Clockword mod and Droid X bootstrapper. Try Droid 2 Bootstrapper and let us know if that works.
I'm not sure what you're using to make a backup but here's a way that should work for you. Using Droid x bootstrapper, click bootstrap recovery and then click reboot recovery. If you're on the GB leak disable USB debugging and it will work. Then when in CWM, use the up/down volume keys to navigate to backup and restore, and press the camera button to select it. If you need to go back you can press the power button or back key. After selecting backup and restore, select the first option and it will backup everything on your phone. It will take about five minutes or more, just be patient. When its done you can flash a rom or reboot
I am on the regular Verizon rom with the latest update. The phone wont boot into the recovery either through bootstrap or clockwork GUI.
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You are rooted I presume? I would try installing bootstrap and reinstalling as well.
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Yes I am rooted, I users z4 root. Whenever i manually boot into recovery I get the guy with the ! And it says can't open e:recovery/command or something but loads just fine into the stock recovery.
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Yes I am rooted, I users z4 root. Whenever i manually boot into recovery I get the guy with the ! And it says can't open e:recovery/command or something but loads just fine into the stock recovery.
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What buttons are you using to boot into recovery? It should be just power and volume down
crxin said:
Yes I am rooted, I users z4 root. Whenever i manually boot into recovery I get the guy with the ! And it says can't open e:recovery/command or something but loads just fine into the stock recovery.
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You can only make a backup by getting into cwm. It sounds like you are still getting into stock recovery. Follow the instructions by jmoney above and you should be good. There is a way to boot into cwm from a powered off state. Just search the forums if you feel like going that route.
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Thanks for the help guys i got it working. something was fubar with the installs, so i wiped the cache and wiped the application data on bootstrapper and clockword and reinstalled. worked like a charm.
thanks for the help guys.
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CWM not flashing from ROM Manager

I'm trying to get Clockwork Mod installed on my wife's Nexus S via ROM Manager but whenever I reboot into recovery it's just the default recovery.
I had this issue with my Nexus S too and I never resolved it. I was only able to flash via fastboot. This isn't an option on my wife's phone as it's not unlocked and I don't want to wipe everything.
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How can you flash cwm without unlocking? I don't think that's possible(correct me if I'm wrong).
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ljordan2 said:
How can you flash cwm without unlocking? I don't think that's possible(correct me if I'm wrong).
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You mean rooting? You're supposed to be able to flash it from within Android if your phone is rooted. OEM unlocking the phone lets you flash things from the bootloader. However, despite that I haven't been able to do it.
I finally gave up. Since the phone is rooted I just backed everything up with Titanium Backup and then OEM unlocked the phone and I'm not restoring from scratch. Not sure I'll ever have an answer to this issue.
Note: If the phone is rooted and you have flash_image, you can use that to flash custom recovery(without bootloader unlocking) 'manually'.
cbstryker said:
I'm trying to get Clockwork Mod installed on my wife's Nexus S via ROM Manager but whenever I reboot into recovery it's just the default recovery.
I had this issue with my Nexus S too and I never resolved it. I was only able to flash via fastboot. This isn't an option on my wife's phone as it's not unlocked and I don't want to wipe everything.
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I have had the same problem with ROM manager ever since I bought it. What I do is flash the recovery a few times. I'll hit flash recovery, and when it finishes I'll do it like 3 or 4 more times and eventually the recovery will stick.
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To fix this, flash CWM recovery using ROM Manager, and then install root explorer. Using root explorer, rename /system/etc/install-recovery.sh to something else (e.g. /system/etc/install-recovery.sh-RENAMED) and that should make your CWM recovery stick. Otherwise it gets overwritten on each boot by the stock Android recovery.
I actually just learned this over the weekend when I got my new NS and I had to do the same thing. I've previously been a happy SGS i9000 owner for the past 2 years, so the NS is pretty new to me still.
i had the same bug i flash a more oldest vercion of rom manager and cmw and that work for me but im crazy ,there are better methods I just tell my experience
Just flashing using CWM..dont flash using ROM manager...many users have problems flashing from ROM manager..
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To fix this, flash CWM recovery using ROM Manager, and then install root explorer. Using root explorer, rename /system/etc/install-recovery.sh to something else (e.g. /system/etc/install-recovery.sh-RENAMED) and that should make your CWM recovery stick. Otherwise it gets overwritten on each boot by the stock Android recovery.
I actually just learned this over the weekend when I got my new NS and I had to do the same thing. I've previously been a happy SGS i9000 owner for the past 2 years, so the NS is pretty new to me still.
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This ^
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[Q] After 2.3.4 OTA Droid 2 initially boots into clockwork recovery

after the OTA update to 2.3.4 my rooted droid 2 boots into ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.0.8.
From what I'v read it isn't possible to to restore my phone to 2.3.3. So I'd like to remove clockwork mod recovery so it boots normally. Currently I have to choose "reboot system now" from recovery,when I do a cold restart, then the phone boots normally.
So far I'v only wiped my user data, but thought i'd better check what would be the best course of action. Don't want to brick my phone.
Sorry if it's a noob question.
Don't think about downgrading to 2.3.3 you'll be bricked and have to install 2.3.4 and lose cwm and root
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Yeah saw the posts (of people trying to downgrade). I'm thinking of selling it, but need to remove the clockwork recovery. Any ideas on how to get it off of there?
Use the 2.3.4 SBF as mentioned above.
devinpatterson said:
Yeah saw the posts (of people trying to downgrade). I'm thinking of selling it, but need to remove the clockwork recovery. Any ideas on how to get it off of there?
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if your not worried about losing root, SBF use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662091
if you just want to fix cwm, read Proper Use Droid 2/X Bootstrapper
the logwrapper or hijack is the problem,
also read Droid Wiki: SBF, Recovery, CWM info

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