Just wondering besides the screen and gingerbread what makes this phone better than the mytouch. Just curious as to why so many people want this phone when the mytouch is better in almost evey way. Please no flaming this is a real question as to why people would want this phone instead of a ohone that's already out that's equal if not better.
Sent from my icey cold glacier 4g freezing every phone in its path.
Pure Google.
I want my updates in a timely manner, not when tmo/htc/samsung/moto/bob from down the street want to give them out.
sold my i9000 to buy this phone because of pure android! in my opinion hardware doesn't mean anything when your software is bad like it was on my i9000. google will always aim for a good running android on their phones!
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Just wondering besides the screen and gingerbread what makes this phone better than the mytouch. Just curious as to why so many people want this phone when the mytouch is better in almost evey way. Please no flaming this is a real question as to why people would want this phone instead of a ohone that's already out that's equal if not better.
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- Pure Google (stock android)
- All soft keys ( I hate the mytouch keys)
- Google's actual developer phone
- Nexus sounds better than MyTouch
Direct updates and fast updates.
No need to root it to remove unnecessary softwares since it comes with none.
More UMTS bands supported, almost it will work on 3G in the globe, forget about ATT but it supports 2100 and 900. This is a personal reason since I won't use it in the US.
MT4g keys collected so much dust in just few days of using, I think soft keys are more durable when you take this into account.
As others said, it comes down to vanilla Android - my nexus one was one of my favorite phones because it was pure android. When I got the evo and vibrant I kinda twitched when I wasn't on vanilla android (it really is a very different experience).
Not to mention, the vibrant still being on 2.1 is a JOKE (altho I've flashed froyo) - so with the nexus S, having the latest updates and essentially being Google's "test device" is excellent.
Because the MyTouch 4g has a worse processor, a worse GPU, a worse display, a worse touch screen, and well, is ugly. Oh and the Nexus S is AOSP.
Note: "ugly" = personal preference no offense intended
It's rather difficult for me to say.
I have MT4 and the screen is good, plus wifi calling is very handy when I need it.
But NS should have larger and better screen.
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Because the MyTouch 4g has a worse processor, a worse GPU, a worse display, a worse touch screen, and well, is ugly. Oh and the Nexus S is AOSP.
Note: "ugly" = personal preference no offense intended
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I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.
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I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.
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Chill out guys... It's phones, phones, phones, phones. No need to get all heated.
Echoing what others have said, but its true. A lot comes down to getting timely updates direct from Google.
I had a Hero before my Nexus One and although the phone was solid, the lack of updates made it a very disappointing experience. Won't do ' non-vanilla' again until manufacturers/carriers prove they will update their phones.
I have a MT4G and a Vibrant and hopefully will pick up a Nexus S tomorrow morning. The MT4g is a very nice solid phone. Having said that I must say I do prefer the Vibrant. I really cannot put my finger on why I like the Vibrant so much better.. I fooled around with the MT4G and let the remorse period end and now I have the phone. I am going to sell the MT4G. Once again though it is a very very good phone. One of the best all around phones I have ever had. Just cannot forge a connection with it.
myTouch 4G is THE phone!! if u have 4G in ur area. Brilliant specs. But I agree its ugliest looking phone ever. But as long u cover it its fine and excellent phone. I wouldnt go for Nexus S if I already had myTouch 4G. Dual Cores are round the corner. But I m fine with the specs of the Nexus S. No 4g here anyways.
PS: Nexus S is gonna be my first native android phone. Woohoo
But I have toyed around most of the android phones of either friends and family
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I have a MT4G and a Vibrant and hopefully will pick up a Nexus S tomorrow morning. The MT4g is a very nice solid phone. Having said that I must say I do prefer the Vibrant. I really cannot put my finger on why I like the Vibrant so much better.. I fooled around with the MT4G and let the remorse period end and now I have the phone. I am going to sell the MT4G. Once again though it is a very very good phone. One of the best all around phones I have ever had. Just cannot forge a connection with it.
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dude, I had the same exact experience.
Ok, still tossing between the two devices. Biggest reason is the $300 price difference. Both have nice features.
Nexus S:
Love that it will get updates in a timely manner
slimmer, sexier
better screen
No 3g so with this and better screen hopefully better battery life
Larger screen
MT4G:
4G
More hardware buttons
Micro SD card slot, (options)
T-Mobile insurance to cover any time of damage
I've only used the Nexus S for a day so I'm still going to compare and see if its worth paying more for it. Any other key reasons I'm missing? Just trying to get as much information/feedback before making a decision.
If you want the best and latest, nexus S is the one...but to me also It doesn't give out anything significant over MT4G..Yes faster updates is definitely one plus of Nexus...but if you're on XDA, you most probably be into custom ROMs, and mostly within a week new updates come to popular phones..so that's not such a big thing...same goes for pure google exp...if you don't want custom UI...there are ROMs available to do that..
On the other hand MT4G gives you 4G, WiFi calling and looks are subjective..to me MT4G don't look bad though not as sexy as nexus S though...but as above poster said its $300 more...its not definately worth that IMO
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If you want the best and latest, nexus S is the one...but to me also It doesn't give out anything significant over MT4G..Yes faster updates is definitely one plus of Nexus...but if you're on XDA, you most probably be into custom ROMs, and mostly within a week new updates come to popular phones..so that's not such a big thing...same goes for pure google exp...if you don't want custom UI...there are ROMs available to do that..
On the other hand MT4G gives you 4G, WiFi calling and looks are subjective..to me MT4G don't look bad though not as sexy as nexus S though...but as above poster said its $300 more...its not definately worth that IMO
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How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.
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How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
MT4G (contract free and locked) is 449 , NS unlocked and contract free is 529.
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He probably meant off CL or something... Im seeing some in my area for about 275-325
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I've seen a lot of posts anderdroid. You seem to be some sort of arrogant samsung fanboy. All I hear from you is samsung is the best and all other devices are crap...
Do you happen to work for samsung by any chance?
No offence intended.
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Arrogant Samsung fanboy? Everything I said in my reply was true the only thing the MyTouch 4g has on this is removeable storage and HSPA+. Which are 'necessities' at best. If you absolutely need removeable storage or more than 16gb than the Nexus S isn't for you. Other than that, I get the feeling that HTC fanboys down talk Samsung wrongly and uneducatedly so I like to shove it in their faces .
I guess I am an arrogant Samsung fanboy. Or at least, Galaxy S> fanboy. Anything prior to Galaxy S I won't say anything about. The Galaxy S line is 2nd best only to the Nexus S
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How did you come up with this number? Compare the unlocked prices,
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Yes even on eBay you get the slightly used ones for ~ $300-350 in bidding..
Related
http://gizmodo.com/5535436/sprint-wont-sell-the-nexus-one
"When Sprint's Michelle Leff Mermelstein told us that the company wouldn't be selling the Nexus One because of the "upcoming availability of the award-winning Evo 4G," it didn't change much for your average user. The Evo, like the Incredible, looks at least as enticing as the Nexus One, and even shares a lot of the same hardware. Where it diverges, Sprint says it's a "more robust, full-featured device," which, well, it is."
Sprint, like Verizon did earlier this year, has decided to not sell the Nexus One. I could never see a reason to choose this over the awesomeness that will be the Evo (even with the wonky Android upgrade schedule), but I know some people were still waiting for it. Sort of makes sense though, they were only going to run the risk of cannibalizing each other. If I was Sprint, I'd want the Evo to get all the attention too.
(Just a note: I know this is the CDMA Hero community, not the Nexus One forum or anything, but this is the group I connect with and with our investment in Sprint, I thought it was worthy of our forum. I don't go anywhere else on XDA.)
Sorry Fixxer2008
Just because the Evo is on the same network doesn't mean that I, and I suspect many others, wouldn't still consider and possibly choose the N1. While the Evo does seem like it will be the phone on Sprint to have, it also may not fit everyone's tastes. Not to mention that if Google has the ability to upgrade the N1 immediately to the next available Android OS instead of us having to wait for HTC and Sprint to figure it out, well that right there would probably push many folks to buy it before the Evo. I think Sprint is dropping the ball here because more options are always better than less.
i think i just heard fixxers head explode
It does really sadden me that Sprint has chose to do this. I really wanted a Nexus One over an EVO 4G.
A few reason as to why:
Established Community
Vanilla Android is SO much quicker & has a better battery life opposed to Sense.
I like choices.
I don't 4G coverage & probably won't 4G coverage in my area for a long time.
This is Verizon and Sprint's big mistakes. They don't want to give up control over the devices, and Google doesn't want to give them control over this device.
Google is attempting to shake up the hardware sales revenue stream that the carriers have and they are trying to stomp it out.
Unfortunately, it is us, the customers who get hurt by it.
Pretty sad, because I thought Sprint really was turning things around, but it appears they are still the same ol' Sprint.
Confirmed the information here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6442453&postcount=385
This pisses me off to no end. I dont want a f*cking EVO, but now thats what I guess I'm gonna be stuck with.
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this pisses me off to no end. I dont want a f*cking evo, but now thats what i guess i'm gonna be stuck with.
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^^^^^
roflmao
schizopunk said:
This pisses me off to no end. I dont want a f*cking EVO, but now thats what I guess I'm gonna be stuck with.
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Vote with your dollar and go somewhere else. There ARE other carriers besides sprint.
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It does really sadden me that Sprint has chose to do this. I really wanted a Nexus One over an EVO 4G.
A few reason as to why:
Established Community
Vanilla Android is SO much quicker & has a better battery life opposed to Sense.
I like choices.
I don't 4G coverage & probably won't 4G coverage in my area for a long time.
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yeah im down right pissed but nothing i can do i guess. unless i switch to t-mobile. i guess ill hold out for the moment2 because i don't like the evo and i hate sense.
didn't hte nexus one have hardware issues, and that's why google canned it, and told everyone to get an incredible ?
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yeah im down right pissed but nothing i can do i guess. unless i switch to t-mobile. i guess ill hold out for the moment2 because i don't like the evo and i hate sense.
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I heard a rumor the Samsung galaxy s was coming to all 4 carriers sometime and that phone supposedly one ups even then evo in a few areas
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I heard a rumor the Samsung galaxy s was coming to all 4 carriers sometime and that phone supposedly one ups even then evo in a few areas
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i have a good offer on the moment right now but there is hardly any development for it so im not sure. i do have a feeling once the EVO comes out that will be sprints flagship android device of the year and the hero will be left behind. ill have to look up the galaxy, thanks.
I can see why people are mad and want a google phone that gets updated directly from google.
Alot of people think the evo is too big. The nexus has nice size and looks pretty sleek.
But the Evo does have much better specs, and does still get 3G.
Plus you can turn sense off, and if you root (when these guys figure out how)
You can remove the HTC lockscreen, and make and revert all the HTC apps back to stock, and the device will run faster.
But the nesux one on sprint for $99 would be a hell of a deal and would pull alot of customers who want a cool smartphone but don't need everything the EVO does.
Plus sprint better not go out of stock the first day, I want an evo
Well this is disappointing news
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I can see why people are mad and want a google phone that gets updated directly from google.
Alot of people think the evo is too big. The nexus has nice size and looks pretty sleek.
But the Evo does have much better specs, and does still get 3G.
Plus you can turn sense off, and if you root (when these guys figure out how)
You can remove the HTC lockscreen, and make and revert all the HTC apps back to stock, and the device will run faster.
But the nesux one on sprint for $99 would be a hell of a deal and would pull alot of customers who want a cool smartphone but don't need everything the EVO does.
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the evo will take awhile to root and most devs here prefer sense. "some" of us here realize that sense is buggy, takes up too much ram and is all about eye candy.
the nexus would of kicked ass if it was released.
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i have a good offer on the moment right now but there is hardly any development for it so im not sure. i do have a feeling once the EVO comes out that will be sprints flagship android device of the year and the hero will be left behind. ill have to look up the galaxy, thanks.
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Yea something about it's gpu producing polygons well above the n1 and even the iPhone I have no idea what that all means and plus it has a super amoled screen tht just sounds amazing
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Yea something about it's gpu producing polygons well above the n1 and even the iPhone I have no idea what that all means and plus it has a super amoled screen tht just sounds amazing
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the evo is a nice device but not exactly pocket friendly. plus alot of the features i won't even use.
The Nexus One is an amazing device, the Evo is also an amazing device. Sprint should carry both and just make everyone happy and put money in their big pockets!
Google Exec Hints at Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible, Evo 4G
http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/android_vs_iphone/google_exec_hints_at_why_nexus_one_was_leapfrogged_by_htc_incredible_evo_4g.html
"Nexus One isn't a failure so much as a casualty of the success of the next wave of Android smartphones. In a few months, I'm sure we'll be saying the same things about the Incredible and the Evo 4G."
Some people may be bothered with this, but I am happy with my Nexus One. I have no buyers remorse.
I don't view my N1 as obsolete in any way at all and am quite happy with it, it's no worse than the Incredible and all aspects of the device ooze performance
phones are starting to become like computers now. as soon as you buy one a new and better one comes out tomorrow.
and what sucks about is...you're suck with a 2 year contract.
So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
I always f*cking hate these posts. I really don't want to hear doom and gloom.
Definitely don't feel any remorse.
My phone is JUST as good as the ones that are coming out NOW.
Yea, 8MP cam + dual flash, but cmon, the pictures are hardly better.
Plus the nexus LOOKS better than both of those.
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So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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SERIOUSLY, people are rediculous....... I stayed with DDR400 until DDR32000 came out because it was a serious step up...... There is nothing that screams "OH MY GOD INNOVATION" about either phone..... My next phone will be when my Nexus no longer has the NAND capacity for the current Android version. I love my Nexus
i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
Uh. What?
Incredible and Evo won't get FroYo until the end of this year.
How about we come back to this article then so we can point and laugh?
Having root >>>> anything else.
Have any high-end phones since the Nexus achieved full root? I mean cracked bootloader and all. Desire, Legend, new Droids - none have the kind of access we do. Heck, we may have the best fully root-able hardware HTC will ever release.
I dont think the Incredible is any better than the N1, i've played witht he incredible and it feels cheap plastic like and the camera sucks as well. I like the feel of the N1 and like the looks of it. The Evo is a whole different story...
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i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
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They have "root" meaning they have su permissions. AFAIK they don't have write permissions to the partitions, so it's pretty worthless.
Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
Other than that the idea of having basically a google developement phone surpasses any of the other current phones, maybe when we see a decent hardware upgrade, then it will be a different story, but hopefully Google continues to make new Nexus phones.
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Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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That is sad. So they have the same MT issue as us, a much smaller dev front, usb-bricking issues while flashing roms, no full solution for being rooted/unlocked...took htc ages to release the kernel...they won't see froyo for ages (officially).
Not much to be ... wait for it... desired
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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How many points does a Galaxy register again? I'm guessing more than 2
In the UK, the N1/Desire is still the King. Desire = UK incredible, but is LITERALLY an N1, and I doubt we will ever see the Evo here [not even a whisp of 4g network].
Even if they did, all the incredible has is the less buggy touch matrix, although this has been nicely 'fixed' in froyo. The evo is a different breed of phone, id never buy it purely based on the fact that i like thinks to fit in my pocket xD
Until I see a snapgradon 1.3+, 1GB RAM, a TRUE 8mp+ cam, froyo, new gen OLED/better, my N1 can sleep with my girl any day.
that makes two of us i love man I LOVE MY NEXUS ONE
the video is @ livestream.com/disrupt/video?clipId=pla_cfa02640-01dd-4ac5-bba9-a2a2b0feee24
haha my friend was a tad jealous of me. he has the Hero and i like his sense ui. but the minute froyo came out, i installed it. i showed him how i can play hulu, i showed him that i got live wallpapers (of course he doesn't have 2.1) and the rest of the froyo goodness. and outta jealousy, he was like "oh well im gonna get a phone thats better than that. im give to get the Evo 4G that has everything the nexus one has and more, including Android 2.2" and i was like "riiiiight. just like the hero was supposed to (officially) get 2.1 right?" and he stood quiet lol idk about all of you guys but i don't really care for 2 led lights. im good with just one. as for 4G, i like to have the freedom to switch between my N1, my BB Curve 8310, and my iPhone 3GS with the simple swap of a SIM card so im great with my Sexy Nexy
So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.
I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.
I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.
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I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.
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Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.
Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.
I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.
Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.
This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
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... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.
So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.
Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I was talking about the mytouch 4g.
What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.
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What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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yeah the one differance is 4g and ffc which you can put a ffc in the original yourself. so really? HUGE upgrade -_- i cant wait for the new sidekick 4g though! i cant wait to get a new phone this one is ticking me off.
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I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.
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Wasn't trying to offend you but was just stating facts as we covered it long ago here. Now in what ways will Vibrant 4G be better?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909916
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913896
I'm with STHNS. After buying a Captivate for my gf and doing research on it I am flabberghasted at how many issues plague that phone. The rooting procedure is a nightmare, the GPS is a joke, Samsung's bloatware is incredible and almost a year later they still haven't updated it to Froyo.
I am VERY glad I didn't get a Vibrant. Stay away is my advice.
Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.
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Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.
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My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)
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So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.
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I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.
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My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)
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Agreed. We've got the best processor, the most RAM, and because it's an HTC we've got tons of ROMs and developer support. There's been an ongoing project to port the Nexus S ROM over to SGS for months now and it's still unstable. We've got CM7 as a daily driver already.
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I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.
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I would agree with this. I had much respect for Samsung but after buying my gf a Captivate and doing more research I'm on it I'm very displeased with them.
LOL kgbkny I remember when I had HD2 and Vibrant first came out people came up to me and was like this is better than yours I was like idiot you don't even have lagfix installed and I can beat it down without scaling my CPU at 768mhz. He had no idea so I installed various packages and fixes and he agreed it ran better after and was thankful. But ya Samsung you should avoid it period go with superior mobile vendor like HTC how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC? Lets be real now HTC is the way to go.
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how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC?
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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lol they have reason for that as AT&T's flagship is iPanzy 4 which is another thread of its own but ya AT&T is just crippling Android device in its lineup. I been telling ya all not to trust THE death star as VZ is the only carrier left from the OG Bell 6/7 split.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCp-1hgfxI
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Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I laughed at this one and I'm a vibrant owner. I got my wife a mt4g for xmas and there is no comparison. Stock out of the box the mt4g is leaps and bounds better than the vibrant. As far as speed and response, the stock mt4g was at a minimum as fast as my rooted/modded/voodoo lagfixed vibrant.
I've installed just about every rom that's come out for the vibrant from eugene, master, and team whiskey as well as every leaked modem that's come out and the mt4g consistently gets better signal than my vibrant as well. I'll be sitting in my house and the vibrant goes back and forth between edge and 3g and I've never seen the mytouch on edge once. Then you have to factor in the gps problem of the samsungs and the fact that samsung has a terrible history of supporting their devices. They'll straight up leave you hanging. They came out with the galaxy s line, then in no time flat they come out with the nexus s, and now they've come out with the vibrant 4g. All that is great if they support their devices when they move on to new ones but they have a history of not doing that. In the meantime I can put gingerbread on my old ass HTC G1.
The one thing the Samsung has going for it is the screen. That screen is hot **** but it's not so great that it makes up for all the other areas that it's deficient in IMO.
Plus the mt4g has sensui. Not everyone likes sense. I do, but more importantly I can run the senseui but if I want something different I can root the phone and install a more vanilla android experience. With the vibrant there isn't any stable sense roms running on it. So you have more variety with the mt4g as well. Plus the extra RAM doesn't hurt either or the FFC. I like the physical buttons and the trackpad as well. YMMV.
see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5K1CBTRHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sRMdYFlyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZaFM6UgDnQ
Actually the original galaxy s the international version had the FFC, may be tmo is just playing this apple game of streaming the upgrades for its customers.
The MT4 will still be the better phone if samsung chose to use the same wimpy cpu already found in their vibrant.
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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AT&T is getting the Desire HD very soon. Of all the current phones, it's the only one that I would give up the MT4G for.
Did you check the communication spec for DHD? It uses 900/2100mhz for 3G you won't get 3G in USA but you can use 2G for d/v. Far as MT4G vs DHD goes I was like you also but as they do share similar spec but if you look at benchmark you will see MT4G is superior than DHD but DHD does have 4.3" display lol which I miss so dearly, but also would have picked DHD if had 3G support.
Was checking the best buy website today and the Sprint Nexus S phone now has an add to cart button.
When processing the purchase it gives an Estimated Arrival: 04/18-04/21/2011
I opened a chat with a best buy rep and was told:
you : Is a release date available?
Tech: The date is on 4/18/2011
Just an FYI for those who care.
I just chatted with a Bestbuy rep and she said that if anyone pre-orders it and is with a different carrier they will be eligible for the $125 rebate that Sprint is offering if it is done before the 16th.
We're getting dual core's this summer, you're better off sticking with the Epic. The nexus s 4g is the exact same, except for it's running gb and has an NFC chip.
Yeah of rather have the epic over the nexus s
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I'm holding out for CM7 on my Epic. I'm happy with the Epic for now. It has everything I need and some things I don't (keyboard). I'm not really looking to get back into Samsung unless it is a Nexus because its pure google. My girl wants one so will get one for her and get rid of her Epic, but as for me I agree about holding out for later this year.
Epic 4g> Nexus s 4g
only benefit is that its pure google and that chip oh and gingerbread
but i like my epic hardware keyboard better then those things
im happy with froyo and besides if people do but this phone it may make it easier to port new Android versions and stuff like 4g working on CM7 and what not.
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Epic 4g> Nexus s 4g
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Not at all. If anything Epic = Nexus S, but there is no logical reason to consider it better.
063_XOBX said:
Not at all. If anything Epic = Nexus S, but there is no logical reason to consider it better.
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Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.
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Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.
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That's a personal preference thing, I could argue that thinner is better, it certainly doesn't make one better than the other.
Yep to personal preference... if i could switch to the Nexus... in a heart beat will i ? HELL NO it's not worth the amount of money.... ill wait for a decent Dual Core
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That's a personal preference thing, I could argue that thinner is better, it certainly doesn't make one better than the other.
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too me, i think the epic has some of the best hardware and is the only top of the line phone with the hardware kb and for a keyboard phone i think it is so sexy and thin
compared to the moment, the tp2 tp1, i think a lot more people like having that keyboard, all my friends that have galaxy s variants hate me cause i have the hardware keyboard.
but your right it is a preference
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?
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too me, i think the epic has some of the best hardware and is the only top of the line phone with the hardware kb and for a keyboard phone i think it is so sexy and thin
compared to the moment, the tp2 tp1, i think a lot more people like having that keyboard, all my friends that have galaxy s variants hate me cause i have the hardware keyboard.
but your right it is a preference
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?
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I know you didn't ask me but....
I Got the epic b/c of the processor and i didn't know the keyboard would wobble so much and kill a piece of me every time i touched the screen...
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mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?
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I did have the Evo originally and it's still sitting in my drawer in the event I need a backup phone.
I switched for 3 Reasons.
The extremely poor GPU in the Evo.
It's weight vs. the Epic (or any SGS)
The direction HTC is going in.
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We're getting dual core's this summer, you're better off sticking with the Epic. The nexus s 4g is the exact same, except for it's running gb and has an NFC chip.
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Are we getting dual core pure Google phones on sprint? Is the next Nexus close to the horizon and in dual core?
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Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.
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Emulators and gaming were cool for like the first week for me. Since then, not so much.
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I did have the Evo originally and it's still sitting in my drawer in the event I need a backup phone.
I switched for 3 Reasons.
The extremely poor GPU in the Evo.
It's weight vs. the Epic (or any SGS)
The direction HTC is going in.
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agreed.
i will be picking up my nexus 4g the day it comes out, why? i am going to be stuck in a contract for 2 years with it. there is no doubts in my mind, the sgx540 in the SGS lineup is hands down the best phone gpu on the market (check glbenckmark.com) in terms of overall benchmark gpu scores the nexus s is 4 slots down from the ipad 2 (you know that new dual core tablet thats been crushing everything in terms of speed) so as far as i see it i have a choice between the epic or the ns4g. the epic is a decent enough phone. i love hard ware keyboards, but i want upgrades for 2 years... ask anyone on the nexus forums if they regret getting a nexus device. im willing to bet 99.9 of them will tell you they love having 2.3.3
i couldnt care at all about nfc (yay non scannable qr codes... woopie..) but its more about the simple things. i very rarely run any stock rom, most of the time is cyanogenmod, i congratulate the devs on trying so hard to bring it to the epic but its still got a bit to go. i guarantee the nexus s 4g will have an official repo/build within a week of cm7.
now whats the worst part about nexus s 4g? the camcorder.. its locked at 480p due to hardware limitations, but i can get over that as i dont use my phone as a video camera. no sd card slot? nah ive owned cell phones before they used microsd, and i own an ipod.. so im kinda used to the whole concept of being stuck with a size, besides refer to above point.. no video means less space taken up by media. no i would have to say the worst part about getting a nexus s 4g is knowing that with gb out and hc being held off for tablets only.. that ice cream is a bit off and that means its gunna be a bit of a wait for me to get my next dose of android medicine.
P.S i know i cant be the only one hoping that moto gets skipped on the next nexus device and lg gets it
For those who are interested, I just got a 10% off coupon in the email from Best Buy. That means a 10% discount on preorders of. Nexxus S
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I have this dumb habit of getting the cooler (in MY opinion) and more unique thing when I have a choice between it and something a little less cool but better supported. I own a Zune instead of an iPod, a Mazdaspeed3 instead of a WRX, I used to have an HPI RC car instead of an Associated RC-* that was gas powered instead of electric, and an Epic instead of an Evo, etc.
On one hand, I have never once wanted to kick the phone across the parking lot like I did with the Hero, but on the other hand, the Evo has more accessories that can be bought in brick and mortar stores, more custom ROMs including a more functional CM (much love, you guys really picked a whore of a phone to port to) and more fully functioning root apps.
I know in my heart that if I did get the Evo, I'd be kicking myself for not getting the far more powerful Epic. In this upgrade cycle I think I made the right decision to give Samsung another chance. I still don't trust them to the level of HTC (started with them back in the Titan days) but if they can make a hot-rod Google Experience phone then I'm definitely on board.
If anyone cares.
Top Nurse said:
For those who are interested, I just got a 10% off coupon in the email from Best Buy. That means a 10% discount on preorders of. Nexxus S
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that coupon is no good on contract phones.
That new EVO looks pretty sweet. I think I'm going to hold out for it. And for those of you that get your phones from Best Buy, you are better off going to a Sprint Store.