Im sure this has been covered, I searched but didnt find it.
Here is the deal. I have gone from stock ROM, to EE to Syndicate, and in all 3 when I try to use 4g, it will connect, and after about 20-30 seconds, disconnect.
Any thoughts?
your not getting good coverage
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Thats what I thought maybe as well. But St. Louis is "supposed" to be covers very well for 4g, and it doesnt matter where I try in in STL, it ALWAYS disconnects after about 20 seconds or so
thats wierd,if you know someone else that has 4g,get them to meet up with you one day and try it side by side,the only real way to see if its a problem with your phone
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no problem on my wifes Evo
It's a very weird thing. This past weekend, I was in Las Vegas... and Las Vegas looks like an ocean on the Sprint map, with all the blue solid 4g coverage. I was rooted and ROM'd with Quantum2.0 and then flashed back to stock and STILL had no 4g connections.
I was bragging to my boss about all the 4g I was going to have on vacation, and had nothing to show for it /sadface
By any chance, does anybody know whether the Epic has the same problem the Evo did with lost 4G keys (basically, if the key gets wiped, there's no process for recovering it or generating a new key to replace it)? I'm assuming the fact that we haven't heard about it up to now is probably a sign that it was put somewhere a little more durable in the Epic, but it could also just be the fact that up to now, everyone's largely been in idle mode waiting for 2.2 to drop & there hasn't been nearly as much kernel hacking so far.
IMHO, there's no hard technical reason why a new key couldn't be generated, but the problem is that the key would have to come from Clear, who (despite being mostly owned by Sprint) goes to great (and often petty) lengths to deal with Sprint at arm's length. Clear can't give you a key because you aren't their customer (Sprint is), and Sprint won't get a key for you from Clear because it hasn't occurred to anyone in Sprint management that someone might occasionally need to do it. So, if it happens, you basically have to "lose" the phone and do an insurance replacement, because the phone will never do 4G again. Sad, but true.
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It's a very weird thing. This past weekend, I was in Las Vegas... and Las Vegas looks like an ocean on the Sprint map, with all the blue solid 4g coverage......
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Same here in Corpus...looks great on the Sprint www, 4g everywhere....but in real life it is a hit and miss I was very upset on the real coverage of 4g compared to the Sprint www 4g coverage page...it does not even come close to what they have on the site
Here in Orlando is also very spotty. I just keep 4g off...
I have a problem almost along the same line. Except my 4g will come and go. It will just lose connection while surfing the web. It says im still connected, but I wont be able to go anywhere. Im in seattle.
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In several different 4G cities with excellent signal I always get random 4G disconnects and reconnects--sometimes frequent, other times less so. Sometimes even when the phone is seemingly idle (although I know it's frequently doing background stuff). And sometimes I have to turn 4G off and back on to reconnect. What causes this? Is it a network problem or something on the phone which might be corrected with firmware?
I get sketchy service in Boise, yet much better in Seattle....and both areas are supposed to have full 4G coverage. I can't stand that 4G connects/disconnects constantly, enough that it bogs the phone, so I find myself leaving 4G off more times than not. I did read a thread about someone showing how to basically the phone to only work in 4G, no more timing out, etc...but you'd better make sure you have good coverage before doing it. Sorry I don't have a link.
I get great 4g in my house (Chicago). Makes sense it's the only time I use it because I keep it charging...
I'm also in Saint Louis, and it also disconnections after 20 seconds. But using speed test, I consistantly get 6500-7500 down, and about 1mb up.
In Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, 4g won't do graceful hand-offs if you move more than a mile or two from the tower that gave you an ip... the moment you hit 3 bars from a new tower, it'll forcibly disconnect you. I realized this when I was out mapping w/Sensorly, & gradually realized that half of my disconnects were in areas with rock-solid coverage... often, at the exact point where the signal was the *strongest*.
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So are we talking of a phone issue, or a Sprint issue????? Because I have full bars here in Boston Metro area, MA and I get frequent disconnects, but I'm my house I get 1 bar, but no disconnects .....
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Try this solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
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Tried it, nothing... still keeps connecting / disconnecting every 10 seconds....
Can the 4G radio get flashed?
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything
This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.
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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.
I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.
Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.
What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.
IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.
interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.
I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.
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Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.
If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.
that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.
Not so much of a Samsung vibrant issue, I don't think at least, but hear me out.
Been with Tmobile for 6 years now. Always had a crappy flip phone, up until my touch 3g came out. I knew that back then Tmobile 3g coverage and speeds were lacking to say the least, they joined the game too late. Anyways, few months after that, things began getting way better. Speeds doubling, coverage getting better, I began to like it. Then, got me a nexus one, and I loved how much better Tmobile has got. I was getting amazing speeds with great coverage, 3g everywhere I went... here in Aurora, Tmobile is testing faster that other carriers via 3g, beats sprint by a long shot.
But lately... I am just wanting to sell my phone and switch carriers. My vibrant gets great speeds at home still, sometimes in the 599kbps range though, but usually over 1.2mbps. But, it constantly switches to edge, causing my data to be useless. Pages would halt, won't even load a thing until 3g is back. Coverage has gotten way worse too, half the places I go, 3g just always times out... at my girlfriends place, it literally switches to edge 1 minute after you begin using it, same with her my touch slide.
So, is there anything I could do? I understand that all this can be a result of a higher network load and towers in my area not being able.to handle it, but I really do love my phone, and Tmobile plans, anything?
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Probably not what you want to hear, but I get crap 3G if at all in my apartment, and sometimes even drop EDGE, so I just always use wi-fi at home. Tmo's 3g is decent but not amazing in my neighborhood, but I think it's the construction of the building that kills it when I'm at home. Other than that, I don't know of anything you can do.
Vibrant just can't hold onto a 3G signal.
You know, I been saying this from day one, but everyone is so consumed over the GPS issue.
I have several T-mobile smartphones. They all get 3G in my home, except the vibrant is always on edge.
Simply put, it's the phone, not T-mobile. Vibrant can not hold onto a 3G signal, instead it drops down to Edge when the signal is not strong enough for 3G. Other phones will hold onto 3G.
I've switched to a new sim card, so thats not the issue either. It's the phone.
Hopefully They fix this issue also when they roll out the GPS fix.
Yes, it's the Vibrant.
3G stayed locked on my HD2, unless the signal really was low. The Vibrant switches to Edge, even with 4 bars of 3G.
This needs to be addressed ASAP.
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Yes, it's the Vibrant.
3G stayed locked on my HD2, unless the signal really was low. The Vibrant switches to Edge, even with 4 bars of 3G.
This needs to be addressed ASAP.
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Mine don't. It'll hold on 3g with no bars , my phone hates edge...
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Mine don't. It'll hold on 3g with no bars , my phone hates edge...
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Yeah, I've seen that too on my phone. I have seen the phone go to Edge when it had 4 bars of 3G, and then I have seen it stay on 2 bars of 3G. Strange, it seems like the network would be the cause, but it is definitely the phone, because again, my HD2 did not perform this way.
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You know, I been saying this from day one, but everyone is so consumed over the GPS issue.
I have several T-mobile smartphones. They all get 3G in my home, except the vibrant is always on edge.
Simply put, it's the phone, not T-mobile. Vibrant can not hold onto a 3G signal, instead it drops down to Edge when the signal is not strong enough for 3G. Other phones will hold onto 3G.
I've switched to a new sim card, so thats not the issue either. It's the phone.
Hopefully They fix this issue also when they roll out the GPS fix.
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You know, I thought that it could he the phone, but Then my girlfriend got my touch slide just few days after I sold my nexus one, and she has been having identical issues as I. I figured that since her slide is the same way, it couldn't have been the phone. You're right though it seems, my nexus one has always been solid, it just started happening when I got my vibrant. I just figured that maybe with Tmobile finally getting a nice smart phone and getting busier it was the carrier, not the phone. It is kind of annoying, at my house, it always cycles between no bars and 4 bars, with no bars, my 3g speeds are high too, 1.5mbps down and 500-700up
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My MT3G gets the same coverage at my apartment and my wifes MT3G gets the same coverage on the road as my Vibrant. Does that mean it's not the carrier, or the phone but it's Android?
If you don't like it return it, get a different carrier, and more than likely your problems will be solved.
Its T-Mobile. My g1 had the same issues. Switching between e and 3g, and lately I've just been staying on e because it saves the battery. T-Mobile has a **** network and I live in southern California, so its not like I'm in some podunk town. Web pages shouldn't be not loading and just hanging forever. Apps shouldn't just get stuck on refreshing. Like I said this happened all the time on my g1. Their network blows.
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I'm pretty sure it's the phone
I magically drift from 5 bars 3g in my house to like 1-2 bars edge just letting it sit on my desk
I don't think it's T-Mo, I live very near a tower and the wife's phone has no issue with it
If you're having problems with data sessions hanging for too long because the phone is cycling back and forth between 3G and EDGE you should lock the phone on 3G.
I have barely noticed any difference with my CLIQ and Vibrant. The only problem I do notice is when I'm at the edge of the 3G network and the phone wants to hold onto the weak, 2 mile away 3G signal when there is an EDGE tower within 1 mile away. My CLIQ simply switched to EDGE until 3G was deemed good enough.
You can solve this by either locking on 3G (not recommended if 3G is extremely poor) or locking it on EDGE if you're in a bad area for 3G.
Also I don't trust the speedtest.net app on the Vibrant. There is a serious problem with it, it's very inconsistent and inaccurate some of the time. Samsung will be pushing out the GPS fix bundled with other fixes and that could include a connectivity enhancement. One problem I know of for sure is that this phone reads WAY too low for it's received signal strength and it could be performing as such for others (underestimating 3G network coverage and switching to EDGE to maintain a signal)
It is the phone in as much as the Vibrant is just more accurately and quickly detecting the changes in signal strength. All phones experience this but many manufactures calibrate things differently so that users perceive a better signal when in fact the signal strength deviates greatly on all phones from all carriers.
There are many variables that effect signal strength including things around your home that can interfere. There are many things i like about T-Mobile and many i do not but right now and for a while they do have the fastest network. They do not have the best coverage in the most areas that title goes to verizon.
See if you have a friend on another network who can come to your place and you can compare actual call quality and data speeds. I suspect they will all work about the same.
Weird, I've been having the exact opposite situation, LOVE my N1 but it would drop to G in one spot on my way to work and not reconnect to 3G unless taken to Airplane mode or restarted, I would also completely loose all signal in some stores in town. So far the Vibrant hasn't done that and I've even managed to have a signal in places I didn't before
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Weird, I've been having the exact opposite situation, LOVE my N1 but it would drop to G in one spot on my way to work and not reconnect to 3G unless taken to Airplane mode or restarted, I would also completely loose all signal in some stores in town. So far the Vibrant hasn't done that and I've even managed to have a signal in places I didn't before
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This is the same as me. My n1 next to my vibrant the v will be on 3g and the n1 on edge. N1 had this switching to edge issue so funny people with the n1 aren't mentioning it... nexus one 3g issie
I have an N1 that usually shows 1 or 2 more bars of 3G than the Vibrant does in the same locations. However my Vibrant seems to hang on to 3G with more tenacity than the N1. Also the N1 shows more bars of E as a general rule then the Vibrant does, but as mentioned the N1 shifts to E much more frequently. I suspect that it is the phone and not the carrier.
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Weird, I've been having the exact opposite situation, LOVE my N1 but it would drop to G in one spot on my way to work and not reconnect to 3G unless taken to Airplane mode or restarted, I would also completely loose all signal in some stores in town. So far the Vibrant hasn't done that and I've even managed to have a signal in places I didn't before
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N1 was way worse than vibrant to me for several reasons. Just like mt3g, it would constantly fail to send texts, so I'd either have to wait 5 minutes and try again, or restart. Overall, 3g is a little more concistent on the vibrant, just switching to edge a lot. On N1 I literally would get an up arrow on 3g icon stuck and data would be stuck as well, I would reboot it 2-3 times per my 3 hours of streaming Pandora...
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I have had my G2 purchased off contract for 3 days now and other than the hinge issue and the 4g internal issue I find that my device just does not want to hold a signal other than E or G. What little time it spends on H is a small percentage of operation time. In the exact same location and time my Vibrant will hold 3 G at two bars and My Nexus One also at 1 or 2 bars the G2 stays on E at 3 or 4 bars or less and when I attempt to dl something it either hangs and goes to G or stays on E and I get the "trouble connecting with server try again and downland unsuccessful. This is the worst reception I have ever had on a phone in this same exact location. I think the G2 is a wonderful phone having the potential to be a super phone. I am hoping that this is just a defect with this unit and I have arranged to have a replacement. Anyone else having this issue?
may be a defect.. I get the same amount of 3G bars that I got on my Blackberry 9700 which is usually around full the areas I frequent.
To the OP I get the same exact problem. Unable to connect to Market even on Edge.
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I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
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I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
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I got off of the phone with a Rep from T Mobile and they claimed they had to change my web plan to suit the G2. They claimed different connections.They did give it to me at the same price as before but they also claimed it would completely change what has been happening to the device and my other phones(Vibrant and Nexus One) would see an improvement as well. So far after about 5 hours no change whatsoever except for slightly poorer reception. I am beginning to wonder if this G2 is star crossed and was not ready for prime time. I am starting to doubt anything TMobile says at this point.
i get poor reception unless im completely out in the open. i get no reception at all in house vs my iphone 2g, which got solid reception.
I get little to no reception in my basement, whereas with my BB 8900 the reception was poorer but still workable. At least the data works over Wifi.
getting the same problem with both of the G2`s i purchased data service drops and then comes back but thats been happening for about a month even on my touch pro 2
Happened to me also
My first G2 would randomly go from full bars to absolutely no service at all and I would have to turn it off and on to get service again. Since my vibrant wasn't having and problems like that I went and exchanged it for another G2. I haven't dropped signal but I frequently go from full bars 3g to edge or g and back and my data connection seems to hang every once and a while
I have great reception. Just a good as any other device I have had.
I got a replacement G2 yesterday afternoon and it is worse than the first one. The reception or I should say lack of reception is ludicrous. This is after T Mobile supposedly put me on a different connection type (whatever that is ) they could not explain it but did not increase my bill. The radio reception is much worse. The hinges are much looser than the first one and overall I am not a happy camper with this device. I go from 3 bars of H immediately to G than to 2 bars E and then no signal. It just fluctuates. Connecting to market is about a ten or 20 minute affair if it actually finally does connect. Downloading is sporadic at best. Phone has great potential IMO but it is flawed as released.
I get full bars of (H) a majority of the places I am. I'm out in jersey.
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I'm having the opposite issue as most; my cell connection is solid, but as soon as I hold the phone in landscape mode (or press my palm along the 'top' in portrait mode) I lose wifi connectivity instantly. Wifi Analyzer shows between a 20 and 30 dBa drop with either a G or N AP... apparently enough to go from four bars to zero, when I'm standing ten feet from my AP, and even more if I'm in the next room. I've tried the same thing with my G1, and I get at most a 5 dBa drop no matter which way I hold it.
Anyone else having this issue? TMo said that I was the first to call in with it, and to try returning/exchanging the phone under the 'buyer's remorse' period.
...I'll have to find another store though; the PFY manager at my local couldn't seem to understand why I would want to use wifi when I get solid HSPA+ signal, and insisted on redirecting me to the TMo Support phone number. He also seemed to be under the impression that wifi was slower than HSPA. Which might be true, if I didn't pay for a 28mbit connection at home. Or hadn't already hit the TMo 10GB/mo throttle cap.. which drops the data connection speed to 50kbps maximum. With no alternate 'truly unlimited' plan or way to buy even another 10GB.
I have had nothing but "H" yes i am in Boston, yes, yes.
Going to Maine this weekend, will let you know what it does.
H for Hysterically Hyperspeed
Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.
Fresno, CA G2 very poor data connections though hspa+
Very bad speeds in Fresno, CA that is HSPA+. Usually less than 1Mb down. Often see less than 500k. At a TMobile store with "a cell tower across the street pointing right at us" my G2 and the stores G2 demo phone only got a 3mb down.
I also see a weird pattern of less than 300k down with above 1.2M up often. There is a YouTube video showed some similar Speedtest.net hi/lo combo results called:
T-mobile G1 vs G2 "the face off"
same issue
i am having the same issue and i am bout 20 miles north of charlotte nc there has to be a problem with the antenna or something but who knows.
Atlant, Signal much better with G2 than with Vibrant. Thats about all I can say about it.
Mines is great if im not @ home. Dl are fast and full 4 bars. But we moved to another house which the signal sucks bad. I normaly get 1bar and edge but hell the g1 did the samething. So I dont see a probelm with the phone just tmobile network
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Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.
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Same here. About to take this bad boy back
Literally every time I try to watch a video in HD on youtube, my connection goes to ****.
I can't download huge files wthout a download manager because they will fail. And where the download manager saves me is by continuing the transfer when I bring the network back up.
I can't play ps online or xbl because the traffic kills my connection.
The ONLY thing its good for is browsing webpages.. that's it!
I live close to a 4g tower cause when I'm peaking, I get 10-13mbps+ its just when tethering or not, the connection times out..
This phone [SAMUNG] has terrible implementation regarding its Wimax radio. I soo wish I could pull out the HTC hardware and stick it in, cause it never timed out like this. Nor did it cause data disconnect upon taking a call while on 4g and tethering..
PLEASE can someone look into why this is happening?
I know I can't be the only one..
Especially
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Try this fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
I have a similar situation with/without the fix. It seems my signal strength (or bars) have improved, whether perceived or real, but reliability is crappy. I basically hold very very still when trying to download a podcast. The highest I've ever gotten is around 6mbits/sec, but usually, if it stays connected, I'll avg about 1-2.
I honestly think that this may have more to do with the wimax technology and towers. I have a Clear bundle ( usb and home) and I live in full 5 bar and 10 bar coverage, and my speeds fluctuate greatly. Now on my phone I always get a solid connection and hardly any fluction albet slower speeds than the other hardware at times. I think the tech and the hardware have more margin of productivity and constant throughput error than sprint or clear wants us to know until they updrage to true wimax 4g. Just my thoughts, maybe your radio is one that doesn't like the tower close to your house.
Call and ask about tower issues, or maybe try a replacement phone, hopefully this is helpful.
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Thanks for thr input guys, my problem is not my thuroughput its actually quite amazing. And rarely on the lowside. Usually 8.5ish most times.
But rather my problem has to do with the Load put on the radio, when downloading a file. Just like when I had problems with cable modems, it would crap out.
I actually did those wimax settings even tho I have te best signal, so great that I'm full bars inside my home at all times [unless I'm covering the radio in slide out mode]
Sigh.. just sucks not to be able to take advantage of my great speeds. Cause I really need to view the 1080p videos on youtube, looking at samples of the Canon 550d/t2I I am getting
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When tethering, I keep my phone stationary in a stand (an izel). That has made my connection extremely reliable and I can stream entire movies without any problems.
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Literally every time I try to watch a video in HD on youtube, my connection goes to ****.
I can't download huge files wthout a download manager because they will fail. And where the download manager saves me is by continuing the transfer when I bring the network back up.
I can't play ps online or xbl because the traffic kills my connection.
The ONLY thing its good for is browsing webpages.. that's it!
I live close to a 4g tower cause when I'm peaking, I get 10-13mbps+ its just when tethering or not, the connection times out..
This phone [SAMUNG] has terrible implementation regarding its Wimax radio. I soo wish I could pull out the HTC hardware and stick it in, cause it never timed out like this. Nor did it cause data disconnect upon taking a call while on 4g and tethering..
PLEASE can someone look into why this is happening?
I know I can't be the only one..
Especially
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I get it with or without the fix. At home and I am less than 1/2 mile from a verified 4G tower and even though I can at times get Speedtest results over 8Mbit there isn't anything that is constant about the connection. 4G is unusable most of the time because the connection will drop about once a minute which then ticks off the phone and this is in an area with a high signal coverage. I also have an Overdrive and it doesn't seem to suffer from the same issues or if it does it doesn't do it as bad.
I'm wondering if it's related to individual tower's broadcasting equipment. I've been places where 4G will stay connected all day regardless of what I'm doing active or not. But the office where I'm working now it constantly connects and disconnects (load or no load). I've tried the fix in the other post, and it hasn't helped here.
Maybe Sprint's Network Vision program will fix this problem.
I just contacted Sprint about the same issue. I'm in Miami, and if this issue persists I'm going to cancel the line. It is annoying as hell. I wonder if it happens with other 4G phones?
Alright thanks guys we have good reports here.
My htc evo didn't do this, I stayed on 4g downloading all day for 14hrs straight at times. Only problem I had regarding 4g on the evo was trying to get the 4g to stay on, while I turned on the hotspot. Once I got it. It was golden.
The epic always have the problem with maintaining the connection. I can say my location doesn't make a difference for me, regarding this issue. But also how would I find out how close I live to a 4g tower? For the speeds I get, it has to be on top of my roof lol.
What is the Sprint Network Vision program? I'm about to google it
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It may be useful to see my original post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10773776
I also had reliability issues and discovered that my office computer was at fault - some kind of RF interference. It's rock-solid now.
well no wonder i have such good throughput and great signal. Used the WiMax tower locator.
The nearest tower to your location is 0.82 miles away, bearing 59 degrees>
i am reading your post, I am trying different locations away from my pc to see if this this helps. thanks for the input. I would like to mention my room mate has at least 15 RC cars. Gas and electric ones, running off 900mhz or 2.4ghz.
he is always on them noisy ass things lol. But this happens even when he isnt on them, and like I mentioned before, the HTC didnt do this--BUT thats not to say this isnt the case with the epic. Two different machines. and hardware for sure.. Samsung barely got the 3g modem right after the release of DI18 lol, **** what makes you think they can handle a wimax radio
At this time there is currently a 4g outtage nationwide on sprints network... I do tech for them and it started sometime around the 22nd or so had a few days off befre that so I can't give you an exact time... as of 11 mountain time on 2/1/11 there was no fix yet...
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fury15 said:
At this time there is currently a 4g outtage nationwide on sprints network... I do tech for them and it started sometime around the 22nd or so had a few days off befre that so I can't give you an exact time... as of 11 mountain time on 2/1/11 there was no fix yet...
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Shhhh . . . don't tell my phone. It is connected to 4G right now and getting 5mbps down in the washington DC area.
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Shhhh . . . don't tell my phone. It is connected to 4G right now and getting 5mbps down in the washington DC area.
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LOL - about 6-7 down here.
I'm in Ft. Lauderdale, and my experience has been that in areas with solid 4g, the connection will drop the moment the signal from a tower *besides* the one that gave you your IP address hits 3 bars.
Example: southbound 95, initial connection between Sunrise & Broward Blvd, gridlock. Watch the signal strength peg at 3 bars near Broward blvd, slowly drift to 2, then 1 by Davie rd... then go back up to 2, and drop when you're close enough to spit on the tower next to 95 at the river. If you toggle 4g off & on right then, it'll reconnect almost instantly with 3 bars. It wreaks havoc on Pandora, to the point of being unusable.
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Slacker radio is the app I use, and keeping the Epic on 3G works best for the same reasons the previous poster states. There I get good performance almost everywhere in my town. If I'm using a constant streaming app though, I will hit patches of trouble especially if it's a fast CD-quality stream.
EDIT: Signal improvement went away... see followup post below.
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Meant to post about this two days ago, and got busy.
I've been one of those with near zero signal in my home neighborhood. I live in Scotts Valley, near Santa Cruz CA. Since I got my Epic last October, I have been extremely frustrated that I get 0/1 bars at home, the signal is too weak to be usable for phone calls (constant digital dropouts -- conversation is impossible), and of course pathetic data rates when I can actually get a connection, which ALSO is never reliable.
When I bought the phone, a tower within sight of my home on another ridge was scheduled to get a Sprint site before the end of the year (2010), according to their website map. Then, this upgrade disappeared. I called, and no one knew anything, of course.
I've been roaming on VZW, who have a 4/5 bar signal here, via Roam Control ever since I got the phone. Fine for calls and text, no data worth speaking about.
Woke up two days ago, and was at first mystified, then thrilled to see 5 solid bars on Sprint!!!! 3G data rates consistently 1100/750 down/up!!!
Apparently, they finally got around to upgrading their coverage in the area. 'bout time
4G? Don't even go there. Not yet, not expecting it... Ever.
Wow my 3g speeds are 200 down max and I have no 4g
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In a way, I have Sprint's poor coverage in my hood to thank for me needing to root and get acquainted with XDA. Otherwise no Roam Control. But it would rock to get a similar upgrade around here. Zoning and landscape just make it really unlikely. If I go just half a mile north or west it's totally different, with 4G and all. Hell, I can watch Netflix over 4G at my office, just not where I stay. I hope your story is repeated far and wide.
I've had the same experience as you. I've been with sprint for 11 years now and my signal is now amazing at the house. 2600 kbps dl, 550 ul. On average, of course. They upgraded the tower nsar my house last year.
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My rwception got worse so to u took my tower I want it back
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Network Vision...
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So this network vision thingy. Do they have a timeline on what cities get it first? Or am I just a needy young man? ahah
Congrats. Anybody else?
UPDATE: After some joy, Sprint decided to turn off whatever they did. Back to 0/1 bars here at home, inability to use voice without constant dropouts, no data to speak of...
Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Someone with a car airave spent the nite? Lol...
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I live in Missouri (right next to sprint hq), and my service is never steady, usually shabby. But with the new EG22plus modem I get 4 bars constant. U might want to look into updating/rollbacking ur prl and/modem?
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Back to Roam Control and cursing Sprint. I am so close to walking away from my contract into VZW's arms. The SG2 could be enough...
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Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...
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Staying exclusively on roaming is the easiest way to break your contract; they'll show you the door, or so I've been told...
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that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint
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that's more true if you use a load of data. I use roam control for voice and text constantly because my apartment is a dead zone, and I use my wireless router for data, never got anything about it from sprint
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That describes me. At home forced roaming so I can actually make and receive calls, data over wifi.
With the RC tasker plugin, phone automatically switches between forced roaming when in range of my home network, then back to "automatic" when out of range.
It's a workable solution, but not something I should have to do.
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You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.
Would that not be a Pleasant surprise instead of unpleasant? My signal seems to have gotten better lately as well
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You guys having problems in your house complain enough they will send you a Airrave for free.
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Yep. The only reason I'm still with them is because of the free Airrave. Without it, signal in my home was unacceptable.
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This may be a bit off topic, but I roam ALLLLL day when I'm at work, it gets me quite angry, and I continue to use data and phone while I "roam" , and saw a charge for roaming one time but called sprint and asked them how the **** I am roaming within my coverage area. They fed me some BS but took the charge away. I've never seen a charge for roaming since. Do you guys get charges?
So far as I know, with my family 2 phone everything plan, roaming is included.
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I just looked, it doesnt say roaming anywhere, but when looking at changing my services, the only roaming option given is Canada Roaming.
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Found it.
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