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Opinion: Best "Vanilla" Android 2.1 ROM experience for Hero?

I've done a handful of searches in both this general forum and the Hero CDMA dev forum, and I'd really like to hear your opinions as to which is the most workable, viable VANILLA Android 2.1 ROM available for the Hero.
Background: I'm currently on the Fresh 2.1.2 ROM, coming from the installation of the Fresh 2.1 ROM from a couple weeks ago, and from the Fresh 2.0d ROM two months before that. I'm a total stability whore -- I silently trolled these forums for weeks before deciding to root and install a Fresh ROM a couple months ago. I've stuck exclusively to Flipz' Fresh ROMs, as they're fast and I've had ZERO issues with them, and it's hard to give that up. And yet, my wife just got a Moto Droid this week and after playing with stock vanilla Android 2.1, I find myself somehow attracted to that spartan interface. Sure, I can boot into Launcher Pro on Fresh 2.1.2, and my *launcher* will be vanilla-ish, but it will continue to take me to the underlying HTC Sense apps (messaging, music, etc.).
My thoughts: I like the look and idea of DarchVanilla ROM, but that author has no immediate plans to update it and it has a few small remaining issues. I'm starting to fall hard for the look of and rationale behind Konikub's new PureHero 2.x ROM, and may load that one up this week. My only hesitation there is that it's built off of the Damage base. Nothing wrong with that, Damage does awesome work (I've read and heard) just as Flipz does, but I've never tried a Damage ROM and am loathe to give up the fast, stable Fresh ROM experience for "undiscovered country." Gotta say, though, that Konikub's tweaks in PureHero have got me standing with one foot over the abyss, ready to tumble in...
Any recommendations? Vanilla-ish ROM user experiences? General advice? Care to talk me into staying in the HTC Sense world? Let me hear it all. And thanks in advance for sharing...

I use both sense and vanilla because i am torn in between. Ultimately i end up using Sense with Vanilla apps like sense with vanilla music apk and i come up with a twisted mix of the two.
If you twisted my arm about it i would have to go with sense because it has more flare.

vastateofmind said:
I've done a handful of searches in both this general forum and the Hero CDMA dev forum, and I'd really like to hear your opinions as to which is the most workable, viable VANILLA Android 2.1 ROM available for the Hero.
Background: I'm currently on the Fresh 2.1.2 ROM, coming from the installation of the Fresh 2.1 ROM from a couple weeks ago, and from the Fresh 2.0d ROM two months before that. I'm a total stability whore -- I silently trolled these forums for weeks before deciding to root and install a Fresh ROM a couple months ago. I've stuck exclusively to Flipz' Fresh ROMs, as they're fast and I've had ZERO issues with them, and it's hard to give that up. And yet, my wife just got a Moto Droid this week and after playing with stock vanilla Android 2.1, I find myself somehow attracted to that spartan interface. Sure, I can boot into Launcher Pro on Fresh 2.1.2, and my *launcher* will be vanilla-ish, but it will continue to take me to the underlying HTC Sense apps (messaging, music, etc.).
My thoughts: I like the look and idea of DarchVanilla ROM, but that author has no immediate plans to update it and it has a few small remaining issues. I'm starting to fall hard for the look of and rationale behind Konikub's new PureHero 2.x ROM, and may load that one up this week. My only hesitation there is that it's built off of the Damage base. Nothing wrong with that, Damage does awesome work (I've read and heard) just as Flipz does, but I've never tried a Damage ROM and am loathe to give up the fast, stable Fresh ROM experience for "undiscovered country." Gotta say, though, that Konikub's tweaks in PureHero have got me standing with one foot over the abyss, ready to tumble in...
Any recommendations? Vanilla-ish ROM user experiences? General advice? Care to talk me into staying in the HTC Sense world? Let me hear it all. And thanks in advance for sharing...
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If you want a real Vanilla Rom, Aosp experience, Just Roll with Darchdroid 2.6 it doesnt get any better that As for Sense DamageControl or fressshhhh

The only real taste of vanilla you're gonna get on the Hero is DarchDroid. It's not perfect, but it's getting there and Darch is actively working on it.

I agree with ^^^
If you like the vanilla experience, then you are doing yourself a disservice by not at least trying darchdroid 2.6.2. My setup is DD 2.6.2 with the zeam. 1.3.3 launcher. It looks like the espresso launcher, but much improved. It works well with 360 degree. rotation, the middle button launches app tray (either normal slider style, or launcher2 style), and the side buttons can easily be configured almost any way you want- from launching the browser or the phone to opening contacts or settings. With overclock and jit, I have no noticeable lag. Oh yeah! And you can pick anywhere from 3 to 9 screens or any number in-between! It will even let you select which screen you want to be your homescreen.
LOL, if you can't tell, I really love this combo!

I must agree that DarchDroid 2.62 is definitely the way to go. I am using it with the Launcher Pro Beta and love the clean look of AOSP. It doesn't get more basic and clean than my homescreen. The launcher has phone, contacts, apps, messaging and internet built in. I also applied the theme from Magnus - KKD_MOD v3.2 to add some extra features behind the scenes

sushi rom, ice rom pure hero are awesome prollly the best roms you could get stripped of sense besides a full asop, and so is darchdroid, i flashed darchdroid about 4 days ago and i pulled the livewallpapers and this rom is easily my fav rom ever. Reason being is because i am a huge asop fan. darchdroid is fast and i mean fast, like the guy above said darch is actively working to fix the issues but its so good its bearable. did i spell that right. Only problem with this one to me is the battery issue. something drains the battery pretty quick full charge will only get you about half a day but bring your car charger and its worth it. sorry if my words seem jumbled i just woke up.

Thanks, y'all!
I really appreciate all of the timely input -- I've got both the PureHero and now the latest DarchDroid ROMs on my SD card and will probably pull the trigger on DarchDroid in the next day or two.
My ONLY gripe there is that I use my Hero's camera. A lot. I know we've all been spoiled with the inclusion of cameras in our phones for too many years to remember, but does anyone find that DarchDroid's lack of camera functionality to be a non-starter for them?

Dude, LOVE the golf ball wallpaper on this!

the new darchdroid does have working camera, but a battery drain problem. if you can go about 6 hours between charges its good, works great. (read awesome)
i downgraded back to v2.5.x because i don't use the camera.
he said he was planning on uploading 2.6.3 tonight so you may wait around for that, should fix the battery issue.

vastateofmind said:
I really appreciate all of the timely input -- I've got both the PureHero and now the latest DarchDroid ROMs on my SD card and will probably pull the trigger on DarchDroid in the next day or two.
My ONLY gripe there is that I use my Hero's camera. A lot. I know we've all been spoiled with the inclusion of cameras in our phones for too many years to remember, but does anyone find that DarchDroid's lack of camera functionality to be a non-starter for them?
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DarchDroid doesn't lack camera.... make sure you're look at version 2.6.2

vastateofmind said:
My ONLY gripe there is that I use my Hero's camera. A lot. I know we've all been spoiled with the inclusion of cameras in our phones for too many years to remember, but does anyone find that DarchDroid's lack of camera functionality to be a non-starter for them?
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The camera has been fixed since the upgrade to the .29 kernel which came with Darchdroid 2.6. Currently the only main issues with 2.6.2 is the video side of the camera isn't working & the battery drain.

The new Darch says it doesn't receive MMS. Does that mean the default app won't receive MMS and I can use Handcent for that; or the phone just won't receive any MMS's period?

Well ya that too, if someone sends you an MMS, you just receive a link to view it instead actually viewing it in the Messaging app.

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vastateofmind said:
Any recommendations? Vanilla-ish ROM user experiences? General advice? Care to talk me into staying in the HTC Sense world? Let me hear it all. And thanks in advance for sharing...
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Vanilla is definitely the way to go man. While I haven't tried DarchDriod yet, I will say my vote is for Ic3Rom. It's been my daily ROM for well over a month and it's stable and fast and Mdawg112 is great about keeping it updated. Check it out - it's been great for me.
On a separate note, once you choose a ROM, try this launcher. I absolutely love it.
http://jbthemes.com/anderweb/category/adwlauncher/

gu1dry said:
Well ya that too, if someone sends you an MMS, you just receive a link to view it instead actually viewing it in the Messaging app.
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Oh, that's not nearly as bad as I had imagined.

yeah he said the battery drain has been fixed, not sure about mms though, you can send but you cant receive, and i pulled livewallpapers and the livewallpaperpicker and gallery3d and my battery has been way better i promise.

I second icerom..I'm very happy
.no lag at all. ..
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dirkydirk23 said:
yeah he said the battery drain has been fixed, not sure about mms though, you can send but you cant receive, and i pulled livewallpapers and the livewallpaperpicker and gallery3d and my battery has been way better i promise.
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dirkydirk23, are those the exact names of the files you pulled? And how exactly DID you pull them? I vaguely recall doing so by way of the SDK at the computer desktop on Fresh 2.0d a month or so ago but I've forgotten since then. I've been on DarchDroid2.6.2 for the past few hours and it's exactly what I'm looking for, but that 3D Gallery has GOT to go. Too slow and it's a usability nightmare.
One other issue while I'm at it -- any ideas how to get back Sprint's Visual Voicemail, or at least to configure the regular voice mail number in the dialer?

vastateofmind said:
dirkydirk23, are those the exact names of the files you pulled? And how exactly DID you pull them? I vaguely recall doing so by way of the SDK at the computer desktop on Fresh 2.0d a month or so ago but I've forgotten since then. I've been on DarchDroid2.6.2 for the past few hours and it's exactly what I'm looking for, but that 3D Gallery has GOT to go. Too slow and it's a usability nightmare.
One other issue while I'm at it -- any ideas how to get back Sprint's Visual Voicemail, or at least to configure the regular voice mail number in the dialer?
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dude i know what you mean once i pulled them it was way better, ok i the exact names of the files i pulled were LiveWallpapers.apk and LiveWallpapersPicker.apk and gallery 3d.apk this is how you do it, have your phone connected via usb in this exact order just copy and paste.
adb shell
su
mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
cd /system/app
ls
after they all pull up just type in
rm LiveWallpapers.apk or whatever it says just like that make sure you put rm and it will remove it, fyi dont remove anything you dont know what its for or you will screw up something. fyi you have to type them how they are shown like if its a capitalized L there has to be one, its very case sensitive when removing them.
and if you look at the first post in the darchdroid thread he put the voicemail app as a download, you can download it and use a file explorer like astro or estrongs to install it i believe, i know for sure he posted it back.

Which Rom?

Hey guys im coming over from the captivate and they have some nice roms on there. I was wondering what the best rom for Droid X is? im Not looking for total speed im looking for usability and functions. also Is there a tutorial on how to do it? i remember using Clockwork on Captivate

First your gonna need the droid x bootstrap which you can get from the market to load a rom. Are you rooted? As for a rom I've been running gummyjar and I am very happy.
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Yes i am rooted and what does gummyjar offer differently because i actually like the stock but i do get addicted to change

gkallivrousis said:
Yes i am rooted and what does gummyjar offer differently because i actually like the stock but i do get addicted to change
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apex 1.3.1 offers the best of both worlds ,,,it has just enough of the blur components while taking out the useless stuff...its fast and very stable and i highly reccomend it

myboygino said:
First your gonna need the droid x bootstrap which you can get from the market to load a rom. Are you rooted? As for a rom I've been running gummyjar and I am very happy.
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I like gummyjar right now too, but if you like stock, load up apex. I was using apex before and it is very good.
I like the aosp feel of gummyjar better personally because I used to use a nexus one with cm. Anyway, I don't think you can go wrong with apex or gummyjar.
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+1 for apex if you want a highly stable and easy install. I just switched from the stock rom to apex and could not be happier. Talk about fast!
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+1 Gummy Jar
I just installed Gummy Jar and it's very fast. Highly recommended

This doesnt really help haha some say gummy others say apex. anyone have experience with both? ill read up on both of them now and decide.

gkallivrousis said:
This doesnt really help haha some say gummy others say apex. anyone have experience with both? ill read up on both of them now and decide.
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Go Fission!! Haha

Try apex for a day, backup, try gummy for a day... go from there
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do either of these build maintain the voice control that is stock in the droid x? I recently switched to the droid x from the droid and one of the things I most love is the voice control over bluetooth works and is very good. This is the one feature I'm most not wanting to loose.
Also I'm having a bit of a problem. I rooted my phone. I installed rommanager and loaded clockwork. Then I tried to backup my rom but the phone just reboots. I went into rommanager and tried to reboot into recovery and again it just reboots.
Is this a known issue? I have not dug around too much on it. How do you reboot manually into recovery on the droid x.
thanks

I am a long time phone flasher, and the ROM that I have had on each phone in the past has just been flatout horrible. So in anticipation for receiving my new DroidX phone in the mail, I started amassing tools and rom file downloads, and bookmarking how-to pages (since every phone flash process is different)...then I got the actual phone I realized that the stock ROM is amazing. Of course, I am coming from a VX6900 that ran Donut via NAND, but I still do not see how the stock ROM could be any faster.
I use Advanced Task Killer, that automatically kills apps when the screen backlight goes out and at any given time when I turn on the phone, I always have 200MB or higher in free memory. I guess I need to know if anyone else has run the stock ROM with Advanced Task Killer, and would still describe it as "slow". I would not describe this as slow...I am literally never waiting on the phone to do something, it keeps up with everything I do, and I have installed about 30 apps/games, I swipe back and forth between apps a lot and use the back/home button quite a bit without closing things. So while I REALLY want to flash, I cannot find a good reason to do it (which is actually a first for me since owning a flash-able phone).
If anyone can weigh in I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

fission or gummyjar. period.

crobs808 said:
I am a long time phone flasher, and the ROM that I have had on each phone in the past has just been flatout horrible. So in anticipation for receiving my new DroidX phone in the mail, I started amassing tools and rom file downloads, and bookmarking how-to pages (since every phone flash process is different)...then I got the actual phone I realized that the stock ROM is amazing. Of course, I am coming from a VX6900 that ran Donut via NAND, but I still do not see how the stock ROM could be any faster.
I use Advanced Task Killer, that automatically kills apps when the screen backlight goes out and at any given time when I turn on the phone, I always have 200MB or higher in free memory. I guess I need to know if anyone else has run the stock ROM with Advanced Task Killer, and would still describe it as "slow". I would not describe this as slow...I am literally never waiting on the phone to do something, it keeps up with everything I do, and I have installed about 30 apps/games, I swipe back and forth between apps a lot and use the back/home button quite a bit without closing things. So while I REALLY want to flash, I cannot find a good reason to do it (which is actually a first for me since owning a flash-able phone).
If anyone can weigh in I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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If you think it seems fast now, wait till you flash a custom ROM... and also, all task killer apps do is slow your phone down.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

pCarson92 said:
If you think it seems fast now, wait till you flash a custom ROM... and also, all task killer apps do is slow your phone down.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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What a terrible article. No empirical evidence at all...just opinion and conjecture based on....what? Nothing. The user's conclusion is to reboot your phone multiple times a day or just uninstall any apps that do not come with the phone. Is he serious? Since I installed this specific task killer app (yes I tried a lot of them) I only have to reboot my phone about once a week. What a poorly written article. No research at all.
I will definitely try the custom rom route. I can always go back to stock I guess.

Fission, Apex, GummyJar are all great options. I have backups for all 3 of them.

Holding off on GB

Am I the only one who is holding off on GB?
I personally hate flashing. I try to do it as little as possible. I like having a smooth stable ROM, and as long as it's stable, I'm pretty happy.
Right now, I'm tempted to flash mainly because I'm having issues with my GPS getting a lock, but I know as soon as Liberty releases a GB ROM, I'll want to reflash.
It's just a pain to me to wipe, install the rom, redownload apps (I have horrid reception in my apt and WiFi has always seemed buggy), reset ringtones, notifications, app settings. It's just a pain in the behind, so I try to do it as little as possible.
I see all the Gingerbread hype, I'd just rather wait for Liberty or Apex GB.

EtherBoo said:
Am I the only one who is holding off on GB?
I personally hate flashing. I try to do it as little as possible. I like having a smooth stable ROM, and as long as it's stable, I'm pretty happy.
Right now, I'm tempted to flash mainly because I'm having issues with my GPS getting a lock, but I know as soon as Liberty releases a GB ROM, I'll want to reflash.
It's just a pain to me to wipe, install the rom, redownload apps (I have horrid reception in my apt and WiFi has always seemed buggy), reset ringtones, notifications, app settings. It's just a pain in the behind, so I try to do it as little as possible.
I see all the Gingerbread hype, I'd just rather wait for Liberty or Apex GB.
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I'm polar opposite. I like new things and challenges.

cstrife999 said:
I'm polar opposite. I like new things and challenges.
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I agree. My DX just came today. Couldn't beat the price. As soon as i get off work I'm rooting that sucker! Putting GB on asap. Love tinkering.
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I also have been waiting but this is because I have bricked my phone beyond repair once and gotten to the point where all I could do is sbf twice. And if you haven't done it, SBF'ing is a pain in the ass. So I like to make sure that things are going to work before I try it

You could always use titanium backup for your app settings, also you won't have to redownload your apps each time. I jumped right to gingerbread as soon as I could, and I'm loving it. I've never had a problem with flashing roms. Really not that big of a deal to me.
If you want to hold out, that's on you, but believe me, it's well worth the upgrade. MotoBlur on gingerbread is really quite bearable, and it's growing on me.
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See now, I didn't know that Titanium backed up apps...I'll have to read up on it. I too haven't flashed because I hate redoing my setup. I like the idea of a couple of GB features though (like the sliding text editor ) so its been tempting.
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Yeah, Titanium backs up apps, but more importantly (or just as importantly, I suppose), it backs up application data too, so then you have settings maintained across roms. It saves everything to your SD card so you'll always have it. Also, if you like to save text messages, search SMS Backup & Restore in the market. It's free and very useful.
In my opinion, using Titanium free becomes tedious, and it's well worth the money for the pro version.

I've been using the new Gingerbread rom, extremly stable and fast. I can't imagine the speed with out the bloat ware.
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No need to hold back we got rootz baby!
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I am waiting. No real hurry to flash anything. I've tried Liberty, Apex, etc...I like the stock rom with root and Launcher Pro ..I obtain the best battery life using it and controlling the cpu/battery/voltage the way I want.
When GB OTA comes out I will update it. Not sure how my phone can get any faster...everything opens and moves instantly now..especially with Launcher Pro.

Bone stock with 2.2 I was hitting 1450 with Quadrant benchmark, 2.3 stock I am hitting 1750. Nice!
Messaging widget is cool. Some other nice stuff also.

IM waiting for more work to be done to it.

The only thing I backup is Angry Birds Scores... 3 stars on all levels and all golden eggs !
I don't really need to save settings otherwise, other than ringtones. I just hate reconfiguring it.
I guess I just don't have a whole lot of stuff to tinker with things like I used to. I might wait for the OTA as well just to make sure I don't have any issues like others did when they used the leaked SBF.

faber78 said:
IM waiting for more work to be done to it.
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What work?

rocko73 said:
What work?
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What, you don't think any developers are gonna play with it?

After reading of all the "issues" with GB (rooted and non) on various sites, I'm thinking I'll just wait for DS 4.3 or even DS GB! I'm currently using Rubix Focused but that's mainly because the email app in Rubix works with my Hotmail account and the dialer actually knows how to enter my VM password after it connects. I really like DS and miss it but I've grown spoiled not having to read my Hotmail messages twice. I'm toying with the idea of replacing the email.apk in DS with the one in Rubix but being fairly new with the Android stuff, I don't know what that entails and how bad I could mess things up (though I guess I could SBF and reinstall (and yes, I do have several backups)). All the stuff I'm reading makes me think that GB is not quite ready for prime time, but again that's my exceedingly humble opinion.

I have seen on numerous forums all the " how do I fix" questions. I will wait. I will flash when the dust settles. Liberty 1.5 is really smooth right now. Just my 2cents.
Tappin from the Tee Box

I am just glad that GB is out. I will wait for the over the air, and then for it to get rooted.
Untill then, rubix focused 2.0.1 kicks butt. I don't mind flashing, but I remember when froyo dropped and everyone was sbf'n and having problems etc.
patience, when there is a Rubix like Gingerbread rom, my X will be complete

Titatnium won't restore a bunch of stuff on GB.
Don't rely on it to do your restore. Almost every application had to be re-downloaded from the Marketplace.
Lost all my game settings.. 8-(
Also if you like NFS, it doesn't work.
Also OliveTree Bible reader doesn't either.
Home switcher is broken, if you like to run multiple Launchers.

tech_head said:
Titatnium won't restore a bunch of stuff on GB.
Don't rely on it to do your restore. Almost every application had to be re-downloaded from the Marketplace.
Lost all my game settings.. 8-(
Also if you like NFS, it doesn't work.
Also OliveTree Bible reader doesn't either.
Home switcher is broken, if you like to run multiple Launchers.
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Titanium won't restore some system data because the version increase. Otherwise, it restored all of the applications that I had backed up.
If you like to run multiple launchers, use Home Smack. Seems to still function well in GB.
This GB leak isn't quite ready for prime-time, but is very good. Noticeable performance increase, and I was already having a good time with Fission rom. I can't wait to see how fast it is when developers kill the blur bloat.

I just installed the final build of Cyanogenmod 7 on my Evo last night.

for those who are on the fence about installing this, here's my experience. i was on myn's warm 2.2 before.
I installed it last night.
Honestly, Myn's 2.2 was very good, which was why I wasn't in a rush to replace it, but my coworker showed me cm7 on his phone at work yesterday and I had to do it as soon as I got home.
The problem w/Myn's is that I actually ran low on memory at one point, I was down to about 65mb (on the phone), so I had to delete a bunch of apps. I tried moving the apps to my SD card but that caused them to no longer work, a bug w/myn's.
I think on a fresh Myn's install, your mem is about 250mb, but cm7, your mem free is 378mb.
Another inconvenient bug w/Sense widgets was that sometimes, you have to go to that desktop in order for the Sense widget to reload its data, like the contacts widget which show no contacts until you displayed the widget and you could see it loading the contacts data. I think that was a Sense thing, cuz that happened on all my ROMs.
Tho, I do miss my pretty Sense widgets. I'm gonna be finding replacements for them and doing a write up for all the other Evo owners on XDA.
The nice thing about cm7 is that it feels slightly snappier than Myn's. Maybe that's just a placebo? But at least I didn't lose any functionality, which is why this is my first cm rom. I can't give up 4G, it's like going back to dial up.
One thing I don't like is their hotspot app, it sucks compared to the Wifi Tether app on other ROMs. You can't see who's connected and there is no access control. And it doesn't show amount of data downloaded or uploaded. Even tho Sprint's plan is unlimited, I try not to abuse it and that feature helped me monitor myself.
I should've done a speed test comparison before and after.
Well, the speedtest.net download numbers I got on CM7 were: 5mbps on the phone, 2mbps on the laptop
sad.
Another thing I don't like is the camera app. How do you turn off the shutter sound? It has more settings but in the video, there are no settings to set the resolution or codec type, how do we know which one is the hardware supported h.264? The Sense camera has ****ty focus sometimes on close objects, like it will hunt for focus, which you can see the object go into focus and but when it locks on the object, its focus is off. I haven't tested this with cm7 yet.
Cosmetically, the difference between cm7 and myn's is minor, you just lose the pretty Sense widgets. Performance wise, it feels snappier, but that's subjective. The main reason why I upgraded was more stability, even tho myn's was very stable for me. But the side benefit is that I got about 125mb extra memory and I hope SD apps will work properly this time.
Also, I hope we won't have to deal the the inconvenience of widgets losing their data randomly and having to go to that desktop so the widget can reload its data.
I also miss the Sense clock app, hope someone can figure out how to port that, it's very user friendly to set alarms and such. cm7's works fine but sense was better. sort of the same reason why i went to cm7, myn's was fine, but cm7 is better.
anyway, so there's my .02 on cm7.
UPDATE:
I went back to Myn's 2.2, ran into some hiccups on restore, details and solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12897128&postcount=9

Neo3D said:
for those who are on the fence about installing this, here's my experience. i was on myn's warm 2.2 before.
I installed it last night.
Honestly, Myn's 2.2 was very good, which was why I wasn't in a rush to replace it, but my coworker showed me cm7 on his phone at work yesterday and I had to do it as soon as I got home.
The problem w/Myn's is that I actually ran low on memory at one point, I was down to about 65mb (on the phone), so I had to delete a bunch of apps. I tried moving the apps to my SD card but that caused them to no longer work, a bug w/myn's.
I think on a fresh Myn's install, your mem is about 250mb, but cm7, your mem free is 378mb.
Another inconvenient bug w/Sense widgets was that sometimes, you have to go to that desktop in order for the Sense widget to reload its data, like the contacts widget which show no contacts until you displayed the widget and you could see it loading the contacts data. I think that was a Sense thing, cuz that happened on all my ROMs.
Tho, I do miss my pretty Sense widgets. I'm gonna be finding replacements for them and doing a write up for all the other Evo owners on XDA.
The nice thing about cm7 is that it feels slightly snappier than Myn's. Maybe that's just a placebo? But at least I didn't lose any functionality, which is why this is my first cm rom. I can't give up 4G, it's like going back to dial up.
One thing I don't like is their hotspot app, it sucks compared to the Wifi Tether app on other ROMs. You can't see who's connected and there is no access control. And it doesn't show amount of data downloaded or uploaded. Even tho Sprint's plan is unlimited, I try not to abuse it and that feature helped me monitor myself.
I should've done a speed test comparison before and after.
Well, the speedtest.net download numbers I got on CM7 were: 5mbps on the phone, 2mbps on the laptop
sad.
Another thing I don't like is the camera app. How do you turn off the shutter sound? It has more settings but in the video, there are no settings to set the resolution or codec type, how do we know which one is the hardware supported h.264? The Sense camera has ****ty focus sometimes on close objects, like it will hunt for focus, which you can see the object go into focus and but when it locks on the object, its focus is off. I haven't tested this with cm7 yet.
Cosmetically, the difference between cm7 and myn's is minor, you just lose the pretty Sense widgets. Performance wise, it feels snappier, but that's subjective. The main reason why I upgraded was more stability, even tho myn's was very stable for me. But the side benefit is that I got about 125mb extra memory and I hope SD apps will work properly this time.
Also, I hope we won't have to deal the the inconvenience of widgets losing their data randomly and having to go to that desktop so the widget can reload its data.
I also miss the Sense clock app, hope someone can figure out how to port that, it's very user friendly to set alarms and such. cm7's works fine but sense was better. sort of the same reason why i went to cm7, myn's was fine, but cm7 is better.
anyway, so there's my .02 on cm7.
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That's alright. You will be back!!
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Welcome to the club! You'll get used to all the little differences quickly and wonder why you didn't switch earlier. For some cool widgets, check out the sticky called "commonly used widgets"under the android general section. You'll most likely get beautiful widgets or fancy widgets if you like the sense based ones. I agree, cyanogenmod seems snappier, simply because it is. Theres less crap running in the background like sense so things load faster and respond better. You might consider also getting adw ex or launcher pro, both will make it even more smooth. AFTER you do, you can uninstall the regular version of adw with titanium backup.
Glad you like it so far!
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My phone ran out of memory for the first time last night using cm7, using pic say pro I got a pop up telling me it could not complete the task due to low memory. It was also around 65 mb. I used my system panel to clear the memory andnit was fine after that. Maybe its just my phone, but it just seems to perform better using a sense ROM.
The main reason I like cm7 is the great battery life.

Glad you're enjoying it. I used to go back and forth the Sense, but I haven't been off AOSP for a while. Once you get used to it, it's much better.
To turn off the camera click, you need to delete the sound file with Root Explorer. It's under System>Media>Audio>UI>camera_click.ogg.

The sense roms are definitely more stable and prettier. But I just feel like I'm wading in a sea of molasses.
When I go from Sense to CM I feel like I just took a 20 pound dump. Ahhhhhhhhh.... nice.
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phatmanxxl said:
My phone ran out of memory for the first time last night using cm7, using pic say pro I got a pop up telling me it could not complete the task due to low memory. It was also around 65 mb. I used my system panel to clear the memory andnit was fine after that. Maybe its just my phone, but it just seems to perform better using a sense ROM.
The main reason I like cm7 is the great battery life.
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Actually, PicSay pro was complaining about low RAM memory, not regular storage memory--I'm assuming you were trying to export a high def picture with lots of effects. It uses up tons and tons of ram and the same would happen on sense too.
I had the same perception that somehow Sense was better and more stable. It took me a full month to realize that both CM7 and Sense are stable.
Also CM7 is way better on touch responsiveness and scrolling because Gingerbread has dramatically improved core video drivers.

As long as you like your personal phone experience then I'm happy for you. I personally don't care for CM, at least not for the Evo. I used to use it on my Windows 6.1 touch pro and had fun. But it just doesn't have enough stability and usefullness for me on the Evo.
The only AOSP rom I was able to use for extended periods of time Deck's. It was a lot more stable, and usable then CM. Only problem is it doesn't have the rabid raving fan base behind it, it's better to be first, not necessarily the best, but that was just my experience with it. I've put CM on my phone probably 7 times now, and it never lasts, I like my equipment to work and work well, when I want it to, every time. AOSP on our phone does not provide that for me.
The camera sucks, actually takes worse pictures, viewing pictures sucks too. Even using 3rd party galleries, pictures are never as clear as on a sense rom. Here is a post I made about it last Sept. and sadly nothing has changed about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8141530#post8141530
You'll find likes and dislikes, if you prefer it then good for you. But makes sure you test everything out first. I personally would recommend Dark Cocoa II by 1975Jamie. I love this one, I currently have a crapload of apps installed and am at 295mb free on my internal storage.
I've tried warm 2.2, it was really nice at first, but that rom fell apart very quickly, I think i was off it within a week. Dark cocoa rls II has kept me for a very long time.
Again, all is personal.

novanosis85 said:
That's alright. You will be back!!
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You're right, I'm back! The Hotspot app in CM7 was providing very unstable internet routing and connection. I tried installing the WiFi Tether app but I think ppl have trouble getting that to work on CM-7. I posted the issue here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...ions-of-wifi-tether-app-for-evo-21-wont-work/
BTW, this is the first time I had to do a Nandroid restore and I found out that:
It wouldn't restore from the phone, I had to use ADB shell on the laptop
Nandroid didn't make a nandroid.md5 file, so I had to make one myself
It was scary running into these issue on my first restore!
Anyway, I got restore to work, do this:
adb shell
cd sdcard
cd nandroid
cd [your phones special serial ID folder]
cd [the restore folder you want to restore]
from here create the MD5 file from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785858
enter in the restore command shown from the phone
it will ask you to confirm the directory then hit ENTER
Just FYI!

snowboarda42 said:
Welcome to the club! You'll get used to all the little differences quickly and wonder why you didn't switch earlier. For some cool widgets, check out the sticky called "commonly used widgets"under the android general section. You'll most likely get beautiful widgets or fancy widgets if you like the sense based ones. I agree, cyanogenmod seems snappier, simply because it is. Theres less crap running in the background like sense so things load faster and respond better. You might consider also getting adw ex or launcher pro, both will make it even more smooth. AFTER you do, you can uninstall the regular version of adw with titanium backup.
Glad you like it so far!
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I think CM-7 comes with ADW EX? Yea, I had to go back to Myn's cuz of Wifi Tether but I can't wait to go back to CM-7!

Pao23 said:
I personally would recommend Dark Cocoa II by 1975Jamie. I love this one, I currently have a crapload of apps installed and am at 295mb free on my internal storage.
I've tried warm 2.2, it was really nice at first, but that rom fell apart very quickly, I think i was off it within a week. Dark cocoa rls II has kept me for a very long time.
Again, all is personal.
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Is that a Sense ROM? I like Sense, but I'm hoping that in Sense 2.x+ and 3.0, they fixed the problem of the widgets just randomly losing its data and having to reload it, quite annoying.

Yea that's what I ment I ran out of RAM on cm7, I didn't think it was possible since I don't have a lot running in the first place. I was adding effects to a pic I took with the front cam. So it wasn't that big of a file.

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I think CM-7 comes with ADW EX? Yea, I had to go back to Myn's cuz of Wifi Tether but I can't wait to go back to CM-7!
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Just the plain adw launcher, EX is the paid version with extra features.

Guys, just use VaelPak... it is basically a Sense CM. I'm loving Go Launcher with it. By far the best launcher I've tried between LP, ADW, Sense, and Go.
PS - All ROMs feel snappy when it's fresh... wait a couple of weeks to really assess. CM started dragging ass then.

For launchers, I recommend Go Launcher Ex. Its basically Launcher Pro without the extra widgets, and its free. Actually all the Go team apps like Go SMS Pro are rapidly becoming my favorite.

There is a final already?

I have destroyer v2 is that CM final or a diff build? hello?

The final build is CM7. No other names, not a nightly.
HOWEVER...
GPS has split personalities
4G is is a bit slow and slightly psychotic
Going to stock than back to CM7 gets the GPS to work for about the time it takes to locate you, doesn't work for navigation.
Screen lock has an uncanny ability to make the screen go blank, causing you to go batty pressing the sleep button numerous times until the screen decides to turn on.
Yes its snappy, and more efficient. But its not what I'd call stable.
I love sense sometimes but batt life is mediocre, and as well sense is a ram hog.
Im switching back to dark cocoa 2.
Hurled through the cosmos from my EVO4G to xda

akarol said:
Guys, just use VaelPak... it is basically a Sense CM. I'm loving Go Launcher with it. By far the best launcher I've tried between LP, ADW, Sense, and Go.
PS - All ROMs feel snappy when it's fresh... wait a couple of weeks to really assess. CM started dragging ass then.
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I 100% agree "just use vaelpak". I came from Myns to Vaelpak about a month ago and couldnt be happier. It was starting to mess up a little bit, the kernel i was using didnt agree. So I figure I would try CM7, seeing how everyone loves it and brags about it. Well.... It's just not for me, to jumpy for my phone and I like when everything works/stable

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There is a final already?
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Yes! But I checked my thread on CM forums about the Wifi tether issue, and it looks like others have the same issue. If you never use Wifi tether then try it out, cm7 is awesome.

[SUPPORT/REVIEW THREAD] WanHU 2.2.1 with Mioze7Ae Patch

Okay, I'm creating this thread so that all users can post their experiences/bugs here because its annoying some of the devs when people post questions in the dev threads. So all you guys like me who need to ask questions or talk about this ROM please post here. I hope they will be kind enough here to answer everyones questions.
I flashed this ROM 3 days ago and I have to say im pretty goddamned impressed. A few words and questions.
First off, I love the stock look from 2.1. 6 Bars for signals, stock moto launcher. That has got to be the most important for me because everytime I flashed a froyo build the launcher would include just the app drawer and no dialer or message buttons like in stock 2.1. The haptic feedback is crisp and works in a few places. Like the dialer and 4 buttons below. The thing I love most about this ROM is is the built in moto LED notifications. I always missed that on the froyo builds and tried using apps like LEDme now and others but it just didnt cut it. The media button works. Its really fast and overclocked its a beauty. The only problem I found with the dialer was the number format and I dont know WHY that should be a problem for anyone. A cool thing I noticed with the dialer was you can block calls from inside the dialer. Love the stock appearance. Okay I dont know what issues you guys have with SMS. All I did was install keyboard for gingerbread longpressed the text input space and chose the input method. It replaced the stock keyboard and everything is fine. The SMS has nice solid black background compared to the grey in dexters and CB's which I assume saves battery. Also you have extra SMS options like pop ups. All apps work great and fast. Over clocked at 1000 mhz, 74 vsel it works as a charm. I use autokiller at moderate and never felt any lessening of RAM or slowing of the phone. About the APN settings yes I cant choose them but for some reason it picked up the settings itself and my data connection is active. I have an unlimited plan so its always on, for those who dont theres a power control app called switch pro you can turn off data along with another bunch of functions. Its basically an extended power control menu. It also has a nice UI. Camera works nicely and over all I just love the stock feel. I have had no signal problems its actually really good. WIFI signals are keeping well even though my router is far away and with froyo I used to get only 1 bar. Apps like Google+ work nicely.
Issues/Questions: I fastbooted into fjfalcons boot4.img. For some reason it became really slow and I had to reboot without it and now its fine. In set CPU half of my swap was active without even running any apps. I use 91 mb linux swap on my SD card like in reverends video from the old khal rom days. Besides that I want to ask about the super sleep mode button, what does it do? When do i activate it? How does it work? etc. By the way im using M7's patch with extended menu's. Umm besides that I tried installing root explorer but it already has its own korean RE, and I cant install root explorer on top because it says system app cant remove. Theres also another browser which in in korean but I just ignored that.
Besides that I have had no Issues with this ROM. Seems very solid and suitable for everyday use. I flashed directly from CB's froyo without reformatting my SD. All my apps were preserved and I had no issues booting this ROM up. I did loose the calvin bootloader img in the start which is now replaced by the official moto M and a sexy T logo after works. All in all I feel this is a keeper, after trying literally every ROM on this forum atleast 2 dozen times. Thats my review as a normal moderate user. I don't play many hardcore games and use my phone for calling, sms, browsing and photos.
Please post your opinions and experiences. And any bugs. Thanks!

How is it's speed compared to miui? does it beat miui?
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It feels like an official update from moto

If the dialer and messaging were fixed (americanized), I bet cincy bell would backtrack and call this the official update, especially with a swype keyboard.
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Just curious, does swype really feels that great? Cos im using swiftkey and i feel that i type much better there :/

I'm not a huge fan of swype. My favorite keyboard actually is the stock gingerbread keyboard. I really fly with that one.

Swype is perfect for me when it understands my words correctly.
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cancrippler said:
Swype is perfect for me when it understands my words correctly.
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Yeah, well that's kind of the issue. Sometimes works well and types fast, other times it misses my words. Too many misses makes the gingerbread keyboard my default for speed and reliability.

But Swype also lets you type normally as well as swype to type.
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spectacle said:
How is it's speed compared to miui? does it beat miui?
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I think the speed is comparable to miui, but its way more stable with very few reboots or any other problems. Could someone comment on the battery life? I'm getting a day with low use. I flashed from the CB Froyo does that make any difference if I don't flash 2.1 Korean first. Kernel issues?
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Nice review! But how did you get LED-notifications to work? They don't work here w/o LEDmeknow.
Battery life here is somewhere between 2.1 stock and 2.2-ROMS on here.

Vistaus said:
Nice review! But how did you get LED-notifications to work? They don't work here w/o LEDmeknow.
Battery life here is somewhere between 2.1 stock and 2.2-ROMS on here.
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It was in the display options. LED Notifications and periodic notifications just like in 2.1. After I selected them I got the flashing 4 bottom LED's which would stop after a few seconds and restart every 4-5 minutes.
My battery life for me sucked bad even after calibration, so I flashed stock 2.1 signapore sbf to see if that changes anything. I heard there are kernel issues if you dont go back to stock. Also memory leaks.

sohrab.naushad said:
Okay, I'm creating this thread so that all users can post their experiences/bugs here because its annoying some of the devs when people post questions in the dev threads. So all you guys like me who need to ask questions or talk about this ROM please post here. I hope they will be kind enough here to answer everyones questions.!
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Im being an annoying DEV because of morons that post **** like this in a thread about a Deving from 2.1 stock to WanHu's then applying the Deved patches.
Ps..I installed wanhu straight over dex 1.3 and was working perfect straight from the start...or so I thought ...I think cos I used mybackup and saved and then restored "system settings" in the upgrade process.
Im on stock 2.1 and rooted, i use link2sd too. i also see
And on and on.... no relevance.

hellmonger said:
Im being an annoying DEV because of morons that post **** like this in a thread about a Deving from 2.1 stock to WanHu's then applying the Deved patches.
Ps..I installed wanhu straight over dex 1.3 and was working perfect straight from the start...or so I thought ...I think cos I used mybackup and saved and then restored "system settings" in the upgrade process.
Im on stock 2.1 and rooted, i use link2sd too. i also see
And on and on.... no relevance.
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Relax. He didn't say you were annoying, he respects you guys and doesn't want to annoy you in that thread.
I for one can't wait till you guys get the phone numbers fixed. This rom will rock!
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hellmonger said:
Im being an annoying DEV because of morons that post **** like this in a thread about a Deving from 2.1 stock to WanHu's then applying the Deved patches.
Ps..I installed wanhu straight over dex 1.3 and was working perfect straight from the start...or so I thought ...I think cos I used mybackup and saved and then restored "system settings" in the upgrade process.
Im on stock 2.1 and rooted, i use link2sd too. i also see
And on and on.... no relevance.
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Lol, im sorry but I didn't understand whether you're happy or pissed off about this thread. Hopefully its the former, and thanks again for all the good work!

Just a small update. I was getting really crappy battery life, so I decided to flash the stock singapore SBF and then reflash WanHu's ROM. I took it right from scratch. Root with Universal android root which is so much easier than superoneclick. I tried superoneclick though and it didnt work, maybe because i was trying to do it under MONO in linux. After that I applied the Mioz Patch!
Okay here's where the weirdness starts. First all you guys must remember that annoying ugly korean keyboard and the weird gestures keyboard in the sms, well after the sbf flash my ROM has kept its old android 2.1 keyboard WITH the original haptic feedback. This wasnt there when I flashed directly from the CB froyo. Also Im getting haptic feedback on long touch in the homescreen along with the 4 LED buttons.
Hope this helps. Im going to do some more exploring!
EDIT: Okay so the keyboard is FC on me. It was fine when I was putting in my google info

sohrab.naushad said:
Just a small update. I was getting really crappy battery life, so I decided to flash the stock singapore SBF and then reflash WanHu's ROM. I took it right from scratch. Root with Universal android root which is so much easier than superoneclick. I tried superoneclick though and it didnt work, maybe because i was trying to do it under MONO in linux. After that I applied the Mioz Patch!
Okay here's where the weirdness starts. First all you guys must remember that annoying ugly korean keyboard and the weird gestures keyboard in the sms, well after the sbf flash my ROM has kept its old android 2.1 keyboard WITH the original haptic feedback. This wasnt there when I flashed directly from the CB froyo. Also Im getting haptic feedback on long touch in the homescreen along with the 4 LED buttons.
Hope this helps. Im going to do some more exploring!
EDIT: Okay so the keyboard is FC on me. It was fine when I was putting in my google info
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I get haptic feedback with long press now over the cbw sbf. And I have 3 and a half out of the 4 flashing led's. I think he said the only thing that won't work without flashing over korean sbf was the tv out. I don't currently use tv out (no cable) but i plan too so can you test this for us bud?

LibertyMonger said:
I get haptic feedback with long press now over the cbw sbf. And I have 3 and a half out of the 4 flashing led's. I think he said the only thing that won't work without flashing over korean sbf was the tv out. I don't currently use tv out (no cable) but i plan too so can you test this for us bud?
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Sure ill test it out for you in a day or two

sohrab.naushad said:
Lol, im sorry but I didn't understand whether you're happy or pissed off about this thread. Hopefully its the former, and thanks again for all the good work!
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Nah im not mad Bro, it's a good idea actually

Can you add some screenshots?