I was charging my phone last night, and in the morning my phone was extremely hot. I've never felt anything as hot before with my phone. I had to shutdown the phone and pull out the battery fast. Seriously, I thought my phone would explode. Did anyone else experience the same problem??
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it happens, are you using the OEM battery and charger?
mofoahh said:
it happens, are you using the OEM battery and charger?
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yes I am. I've also noticed that my phone charges really fast too, maybe 2 or 3 times faster than its normal rate?
Any ideas to prevent it from overheating while charging??
wrong place to post, u should have posted it here or here
Do you have an app called "SETCPU"? if not some android builds or older builds don't have control over the CPU and leaves it running at 998MHz even in sleep mode when it should be 245MHz in sleep mode. Get the app in this fourms. It will even allow you to overclock up to 1190MHz for extra proformance but may kill your battery faster. I once had this problem and sloved it with SETCPU. Good Luck.
you can also set a profile for your CPU to max out at say 600mhz if it goes above 40 degrees c or what have you.
Or maybe his charger is faulty...
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I was wondering if anybody would be so kind as to give me some pros/cons about overclocking my phone. Or a link to a topic as I'm sure there already is one, I searched but could not find.
Thanks,
Stew
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I was wondering if anybody would be so kind as to give me some pros/cons about overclocking my phone. Or a link to a topic as I'm sure there already is one, I searched but could not find.
Thanks,
Stew
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PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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First one, then the other
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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Why would one, and not the other? They are touching, and crammed together....
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Why would one, and not the other? They are touching, and crammed together....
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Idk just thought I should ask....
I just figure the phone has a failsafe. I have mine at 768 and only gets ridiculously hot when charging running Google navigation. Otherwise it's just slightly warmer. When it overheats the led flashes red green and I figure its slowing the charge or stopping it to compensate.
A computer will shutdown when the heat gets to an unmanageable level to prevent damage. I figure the phone would have something similar.
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HeroMeng said:
PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
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It doesnt go faster while its asleep.. It scales down like any other rom/kernel would when the phone is asleep.
If you really arent sure then dont ever use an OC'ing app. Just install the kernel and let it scale on its own.
calripkenturner said:
Thanks man I appreciate the response. When you say overheat do you mean the battery, or the actual phone? haha
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Also the only thermometer thats close to the cpu is the battery. So its not the most accurate thing to watch since its not the actually cpu temps. Just a rough estimate. Also when it get to around 40 C then set the max clock down to around default clock speeds. Or simple just let the phone relax and dont touch it. You can also take the back cover off and let it get more air..
It doesnt get hot extremely easy, so its not like youll be sending a text and it gets hot. Its only after prolonged use or doing something thats keeping the cpu from not scaling down very much (game, tethering, or etc..)
PROS: Your phone goes faster!
It goes slower while it's asleep, so more battery (as long as you program the profile in setcpu)!
CONS:Your phone might overheat.
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It doesnt go faster why its asleep.. It scales down like any other rom would when the phone is asleep.
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I think he meant setcpu can scale at a lower then factory frequency. But that would actually not be overclocking =P
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I think he meant setcpu can scale at a lower then factory frequency. But that would actually not be overclocking =P
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It would actually be underclocking, yes. But it DOES give you better battery life!
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It would actually be underclocking, yes. But it DOES give you better battery life!
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I haven't noticed a difference setting my phone to 245mhz when it's asleep (well positively anyway). But when I unlock it is slow to a crawl, so I just set it 528mhz all the time and my battery life is unaffected but my phone is always very spunky.I don't have fresh toast on my phone so I haven't overclocked it yet (but may eventually)
I only had issues with overheating when charging, especially via USB to a computer. One commonly overlooked side effect is that Li-Ion batteries lose capacity faster at higher temperatures. The capacity degradation is a combination temperature, charge and number of charge cycles. The ideal situation is to be at 40% charge at 0C, but the hotter the battery, the more it degrades with time.
Does everybody's vibrant heat up like crazy when they are charging their vibrant?
yes I have two of them and they get pretty hot ( you can feel it in the back side underneath speaker)
Mine as well gets hot but it doesnt happen all the time. It's charging right now and it isnt doing it. Weird...
it usually won't get hot unless you're USING it while it's charging.
Mine used to go up to 116 degrees while charging, but them I swapped it out and my new one barely goes past 95
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Blah man said:
Mine used to go up to 116 degrees while charging, but them I swapped it out and my new one barely goes past 95
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Yes mine gets very hot also. How do you know your phones temperature? Theres a temp guage built into the phone?
Play Sims while charging. That's how I'm planning on keeping warm this winter. Oh wait, Sims keeps crashing now...
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Try disabling the Wi-Fi and GPS while charging it....Seems to stay cool when I do this on mine.
When using up a lot of energy and charging at the same time it causes the heat...this is one of the problem with the current battery tech :/..
from experience with other phones..wifi + charging = hot as hell..if you really must use wifi while charging for say tethering then I suggest putting it on a metal surface(which will act as a heatsink in a way) and it won't get hot.
I'm from down south.. And mine sits at 110... seen it at 115 before... Ive never had another phone get as hot..
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I noticed this as well too. Seems that it is more noticable if you put in on charging soon after using wifi/gps intensive apps. Maybe they stay on longer when it sees it is on ac power? I even had one point where after over an hour charging there was no noticable gain in battery charge. I imagine it was using so much power that little was left to actually charge the battery. In all cases, a reboot fixed the issue and it charged quickly with little increase in temp.
Kinda remides me of my previous windows mobile phones. Sometimes an app would "hang" even though there was no error message and the app appeared to close down fine, I would notice my battery would be used quickly and the phone would be very warm. Usually it was an app that used wifi or gps that caused the issue. Maybe the app crashed before giving a "release command" or similar to the hardware and it kept on running at full power?
It happened to me twice. My phone went past all of yours. It got to temp of 143F. It was really hot all over the phone. I had to turn it off and take out the battery for it to cool down. It wouldn't even let me charge it cus it was too hot when the phone was off. I woke up to 18% battery charge after 7 hours of charging. It said that the display was using most of the batteries. I believe when you plug in your phone, i noticed a change in the brightness setting and i dont have automatic brightness enable. Now i make sure i fc everything before i charge and the brightness is at 0.
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Yes mine gets very hot also. How do you know your phones temperature? Theres a temp guage built into the phone?
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I use battery life from the market, also the phone had a temp gauge but to access it I use the "my device" app from tmobile > storage and battery > battery level
My phone only gets seriously hot, 122 degrees, while using the gps on full brightness
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Normal. Remember different phone and different processor .... winter they should be cooler even while charging.
I had a scary experience with my phone this morning. Woke up and found my phone switched off. I thought the battery has gone dead, so I plug it to a charger. Then here was the scary part, nothing happened. My phone led is not coming on. Power switch not responding.
At the end. I had to remove the battery to get my phone boot up again and everything seems fine. And the battery wasnt flat, still 38% left.
I wonder what would cause this? Is that a common symptoms with OC CPU? Running 1.5Ghz, minimum 233mhz on demand using the kernel comes with cm7 rc1.
The weird thing is the phone crash while on standby.
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maybe a cpu issue... cause of overclock?
does it happen again?
franklin20uk said:
I had a scary experience with my phone this morning. Woke up and found my phone switched off. I thought the battery has gone dead, so I plug it to a charger. Then here was the scary part, nothing happened. My phone led is not coming on. Power switch not responding.
At the end. I had to remove the battery to get my phone boot up again and everything seems fine. And the battery wasnt flat, still 38% left.
I wonder what would cause this? Is that a common symptoms with OC CPU? Running 1.5Ghz, minimum 233mhz on demand using the kernel comes with cm7 rc1.
The weird thing is the phone crash while on standby.
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Personally I don't overclock HTC don't offer any guarantee of stability over the standard clock speed and in my experience overclocking can less to all sorts of problems set your overclock to more modest levels and I suspect you'll avoids any problems in future
mate I had the same problem today morning, and a few weeks before. and somehow i got text messages like #[email protected] twice
franklin20uk said:
I had a scary experience with my phone this morning. Woke up and found my phone switched off. I thought the battery has gone dead, so I plug it to a charger. Then here was the scary part, nothing happened. My phone led is not coming on. Power switch not responding.
At the end. I had to remove the battery to get my phone boot up again and everything seems fine. And the battery wasnt flat, still 38% left.
I wonder what would cause this? Is that a common symptoms with OC CPU? Running 1.5Ghz, minimum 233mhz on demand using the kernel comes with cm7 rc1.
The weird thing is the phone crash while on standby.
Many thanks
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Try lowering your clock to 1.3Hgz and observe.
Is the 1ghz clockspeed not enough? I only do overclocking on my gaming pc
I have been using this clock speed for 2 days, it passed qraduant benchmark without any problem. I will try to lower the speed a notch and see if this happens again.
Just a warning to all using the FreeX10/other 2.2+ performance ROMs that I experienced is the overheating of the device. This may only be me, but I'm posting this just in case.
Quick details of my X10:
Flashed to FreeX10 Beta #4 last night.
Used SetCPU to set scaling to Performance and minimum clock speed @ 998MHz.
Using the 3G (build.prop) enhancement modification.
I have a rubber casing around the phone.
Usually connected to WiFi.
My phone has been on since last night and has been charging for most of the time since then and now.
Just then, I decided to turn my phone off a couple of times. I did not notice the heat from just holding it. I was browsing here and read a thread about removing the battery, so I just did that for some reason. It wasn't until I opened the case when I could smell the smell of melted/hot plastic - it was coming from the battery. I immediately placed the open-phone and the battery in front of a cool fan, the battery and phone both started to cool down and the smell disappeared. I couldn't find any liquid/melted plastics anywhere on/in the phone, but I could definitely smell it.
Just a general friendly warning (that can't hurt). Not sure if it's documented or not, and whether this is only Froyo or below/above.
Used SetCPU to set scaling to Performance and minimum clock speed @ 998MHz.
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what's the point?! if it is to overheat your x10, mission complete
Why using setcpu? I use the same rom and it runs like hell without setcpu. No overheating neither...
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nytral is right. You set the CPU to run @998Hmz at _all time_ so it'[s only natural that the device/battery overheated.
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Quick details of my X10:
Flashed to FreeX10 Beta #4 last night.
Used SetCPU to set scaling to Performance and minimum clock speed @ 998MHz.
Using the 3G (build.prop) enhancement modification.
I have a rubber casing around the phone.
Usually connected to WiFi.
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u have managed to make a perfect guide on how to overheat the phone...
u push all the components to their max working capacity (full cpu, 'enhancement' of radio) and on top of that u keep it enclosed in a rubber casing...
bravo!!!
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u have managed to make a perfect guide on how to overheat the phone...
u push all the components to their max working capacity (full cpu, 'enhancement' of radio) and on top of that u keep it enclosed in a rubber casing...
bravo!!!
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Sorry, Min is 245. Not 998.. :-/
And I'm pretty sure the material of the casing (rubber vs hard plastic) wouldn't matter, but would contribute to the heating. I'm sure that a lot of people would use a case of some sort to protect their device.
The only reason why I started this thread is because I was on a ROM not too long ago (a couple of nights ago), which has exactly the same settings and modifications, except, it wasn't running Froyo - it was running Eclair. And since I installed that Eclair ROM, the phone has only been turned off once (with the battery removed, about a couple of days after installing it and it being on and charging pretty much 24/7) and has been charging pretty much non stop.
The only difference is it is using Froyo instead of Eclair... Hence why I thought it'd be best to start this thread.
LOL, now this is n1 example of a person who didnt read before he flashed
Solution dont whipe data...
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lol nice overheat guide
i'm using setcpu to scale it to powersafe and max @512 Hz
and when the screen is off it's max is set to the lowest (256?)
and when i wanna play games i always set it to min 256(?) and may 998 ans performance
then my battery won't drain so fast
nice overheating guidelines
Do you guys actually see a difference with setcpu? I have used every option available and nothing ever got slower or faster for me.
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Yeah I'm running 2.2.1 and my X10 is no where near hot. well, at least in temperature because its a hot-sexy phone ;P
Nice overclocking there though X10 watercooling systems now in development, expect another forum branch to open in XDA in the next coming weeks.
To my understanding the 2.6.29 doesn't support overclocking so setcpu shouldn't make a difference at all. The rubber case probably contributed to the heat retention but the heat likely is from the constant charging.
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Try the JuiceDefender app and set it to turn off wifi and data when your screen is off or unless certain apps are visible, helps with battery and stops unused functions while your phone sleeps.
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Phone doesnt overheat, if you use it right.
Useless topic!!
Sounds like a guy (not saying names) that Z tells to remove some files from "some" roms he was taking without permission, just trying to desestimate Z rom.
Beta 4 runs very well, theres no overheat.
Sorry for my bad english!!
Greetings from Venezuela!
I have installed cm6.1. 3 v4. 3, its a fab rom.... but charging is the main prob... even if i charge for 2 hrs continues it charges upto just 60% and it becomes very hot..... any solution for this......
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I have installed cm6.1. 3 v4. 3, its a fab rom.... but charging is the main prob... even if i charge for 2 hrs continues it charges upto just 60% and it becomes very hot..... any solution for this......
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Try charging the phone while its off. Ive heard people say that their phone wouldnt charge past a certain point but after charging it whilst off it returned to charging back to 100 percent. I bought a new usb cable for my charger after the terminal end into the phone became deformed and my phone now charges ~3x faster but ive never had it get abnormally hot.
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Hmmm... i set cpu to 998 when running emulators, otherwise its just ondemand. Using freex10 b4 for a fortnight high use frequent charging added 3g build prop lines, got no overheating issues.
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Rofl setcpu doesnt work unless u got full access, root doesnt give that... but have fun xD
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Its funny that anyone with the know how or has supposedly read these forums continue to pay for (or pirate!) apps that have no effect. WITHOUT UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER AND CUSTOM KERNEL OVERCLOCKING APPS HAVE NO EFFECT! Check the overclock option in JuiceDefender, this option is not supported! The developer of the app has apparently left out any notice that it doesnt work with our kernel so they can continue to make sales.
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Hi folks,
Is it nornal that when I charge my phone, both the charger and the phone get very hot? With spare parts I got temperatures up to 47 °C. I've OC'd my wildfire using the CM7 menu in settings. My values are: 352 min 748 max SMARTASS
Thanks in advance.
P.S. the phone only gets hot wheb charging
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For me thats definitely not normal. Even when im navigating and charging the same time while driving i do not get more than 42° and that i get only at summer-temperatures.
So if you get 47° while loading and doing nothing else i would say its suspicious, when im just loading the phone with cm7 and do nothing else (Cpumin:528) i get not more than 38°.
Install SetCPU and use profiles to set minmax lower when charger is connected.
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For me thats definitely not normal. Even when im navigating and charging the same time while driving i do not get more than 42° and that i get only at summer-temperatures.
So if you get 47° while loading and doing nothing else i would say its suspicious, when im just loading the phone with cm7 and do nothing else (Cpumin:528) i get not more than 38°.
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When not connected to mains my phone stays cool, no matter what I do. Never above 40 °C
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Install SetCPU and use profiles to set minmax lower when charger is connected.
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I'll try this. Will report back if it worked. Thanks for the suggestion.
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