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Samsung Galaxy S and Samsug Galaxy Tab gets Gingerbread. (No info about other devices.)

It's possible.... especially with no timeframe, it is very possible. If you, hmm, catch my drift.

yea if we live in a magical land filled with roads of chocolate and gumdrops......

And where a Samsung-branded magical dragon delivers the updates to your phone personally, and when Samsung misses a deadline the dragon cries.... and his tears turn into Jellybeans! And those Jelly beans cure cancer.... err, I think I've gone a bit too far.

i'm guessing that samsung is going to release both 2.2 and 2.3 at the same time. everyone will have to listen to KSAM radio to get the update....

dligon said:
SamFirmware SamFirmware
Samsung Galaxy S and Samsug Galaxy Tab gets Gingerbread. (No info about other devices.)
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this sounds very plausible because the tab is just an oversize galaxy S, and the new phone they're releasing for ATT looks just like the vibrant. If those two devices gets gingerbread, it wouldn't be long until someone port it or samsung actually releasing it for the vibrant too. Just have to wait and see. This would be better than getting 2.2.

well me i would be more inclined to believe that one of the devs like team whiskey, eugene will have gingerbread before samsung or tmo delivers on all their broken promises.

Frankly I do not care at all, I see Froyo as a HTC upgrade, one that every HTC phone needs and should have. It really woke the hell out of my HTC Android phones up!
Now with the Vibrant? NONE of the leaks have made my phone any faster, in fact the last 2.1 I used was a lot more stable than the best 2.2 rom I have used so far (and I have used quite a few of them). The only advantage I have seen is much better GPS locks and faster internet speeds with the JL series modem files (outside only, worse than the 2.1 modems inside a building) and much better reception overall than the 2.1 modems.
So IMO Froyo update will only be a modem/gps/reception update, no real speed or any other advantage here.
Now gingerbread will be to us what Froyo is to the HTC devices, if we will get it at all that is

kponti said:
Frankly I do not care at all, I see Froyo as a HTC upgrade, one that every HTC phone needs and should have. It really woke the hell out of my HTC Android phones up!
Now with the Vibrant? NONE of the leaks have made my phone any faster, in fact the last 2.1 I used was a lot more stable than the best 2.2 rom I have used so far (and I have used quite a few of them). The only advantage I have seen is much better GPS locks and faster internet speeds with the JL series modem files (outside only, worse than the 2.1 modems inside a building) and much better reception overall than the 2.1 modems.
So IMO Froyo update will only be a modem/gps/reception update, no real speed or any other advantage here.
Now gingerbread will be to us what Froyo is to the HTC devices, if we will get it at all that is
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It is definitely possible that official 2.2.1 Froyo is optimized for the hummingbird (i also heard that it may have a newer file system), thus giving the SGS the same boosts as snapdragon devices... wishful thinking of course...

so possibly they will merge parts of 2.2.1 with 2.3 giving us a taste of both in the near future possibly before 2012

The tab needs 3.0 not 2.3...
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hey samsung or tmo doesnt know that they're going to run the tab on 2.3 and promise updates all year long.

qtilt112 said:
It is definitely possible that official 2.2.1 Froyo is optimized for the hummingbird (i also heard that it may have a newer file system), thus giving the SGS the same boosts as snapdragon devices... wishful thinking of course...
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Your wishful thinking made my man nipple hard...just sayin.
dligon said:
so possibly they will merge parts of 2.2.1 with 2.3 giving us a taste of both in the near future possibly before 2012
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Would be nice before we all die.
N8ter said:
The tab needs 3.0 not 2.3...
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Anything less is fAIL, like it is now.

I do not really give a damn anymore. 2.3 would be really nice, but with the Roms from EB, TW, Master, Jellete, I could go on ...all these guys have done great things in the rom world. I have modded and tweaked this phone so it now performs like supped up BENZ.......... really only S2 will move me away from this phone. all this worry over Samsung delivering...... is just "old lady wring your hands complaining" ....like I said who really cares at this point?

2.3 Coming in March as per samfirmware

I know you cannot trust Samfirmware....but...they do have links to leakers and info leakers. They are right probably 50% of the time.
Here is the latest from them:
''Samsung P1000 Galaxy Tab gets Android 2.3 next month. '' (We think March one month later.)
So...march or april.
I was hoping the SGT would get 3.0 and SGS would get 2.3, but it looks like SGT might bet 2.3 before SGS and 3.0 would be for SGT2.

According tovthe gsmarena.com blog it seems that itbwill have 3.0 as well.
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It'd be so sad if the Galaxy Tab gets 2.3 before the Galaxy S. But, I suppose I'll take Gingerbread on at least ONE of my devices.

I really don't see the big fuss about gingerbread can someone elaborate please

Well the GTab had 2.2 before my SGS Vibrant so I have not problem with that but since I don't seem to be able to connect my GTab to Kies I wonder how that's going to work?
Clarification - My device is not supported by the version of Kies I have (2.whatever the latest is)

maxtcee said:
I really don't see the big fuss about gingerbread can someone elaborate please
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Exactly. Maybe some software changes. But from what I have seen, I am not at all impressed with gingerbread. Maybe someone can point out specifics as to what will make gingerbread better than 2.2

dubie76 said:
Exactly. Maybe some software changes. But from what I have seen, I am not at all impressed with gingerbread. Maybe someone can point out specifics as to what will make gingerbread better than 2.2
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For me integrated SIP is a big deal

Hopefully 2.3 come together for my both SGT and SGS devices.

azfxstb said:
For me integrated SIP is a big deal
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Exactly my point! If SIP integration is done at least the same level as in my Nokia N95 then it's the feature I am waiting for ...
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dubie76 said:
Exactly. Maybe some software changes. But from what I have seen, I am not at all impressed with gingerbread. Maybe someone can point out specifics as to what will make gingerbread better than 2.2
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A lot. It's been optimized for battery life, and performance. Plus the JIT compiler has been optimized for the Hummingbird the Galaxy devices use, whereas in FroYo it's just for the Snapdragon.

maxtcee said:
I really don't see the big fuss about gingerbread can someone elaborate please
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Have a read of this, it should make it clearer.

What is tho point in goving us gingerbread? Surley it would make more sense to give us.honeycomb
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A lot. It's been optimized for battery life, and performance. Plus the JIT compiler has been optimized for the Hummingbird the Galaxy devices use, whereas in FroYo it's just for the Snapdragon.
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That last point (JIT optimization for Hummingbird) is the big one for me. It should mean a significant performance boost to the Galaxy Tab.

Main benefits I've found (running nexus one) is performance is a bit better. I also prefer the fonts and dark UI, though that's always skin-able I guess. Been running Gingerbread (CM7 branch) on the Tab occasionally and the performance increases there too. Personally I was hoping that Samsung would just jump straight to Honeycomb for the Galaxy Tab. Makes a lot more sense. Would also be a big boost in sales I'd have thought, though no doubt they've also got a Tab 2 waiting in the wings with that OS.

ramboky said:
That last point (JIT optimization for Hummingbird) is the big one for me. It should mean a significant performance boost to the Galaxy Tab.
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I've yet to use it on my Galaxy S, and I don't have the Tab yet, but I'm excited for when I get to use it as a daily driver. My phone's fast, but it could be faster!

A few more reasons:
- A concurrent garbage collector that doesn't completely block the UI thread while running so no more stuttering
- Better power management (better battery life!)
- Updated video drivers
- Faster event distribution (better input for games)
- Mixable audio effects (good for music creation, games)
- Upgraded kernel
- HTTP responses are gzipped by default (save on data usage)
- Faster number formatting
- Improved Network and File APIs
- SMS bug fix (in 2.3.2 and later)

joeearl13 said:
- HTTP responses are gzipped by default (save on data usage)
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Unfortunately that one is controlled by the server you're visiting who is sending you the response to your request. So the browser can tell the server that it's willing to accept gzipped content, but unless the server is willing to actually gzip it, or unless it's already gzipped, you can't say that they are gzipped by default. If that had said: "HTTP requests accept gzip responses by default" then I wouldn't take issue.
The rest of it though while exciting as far as updates go should be included with Honeycomb, and with that running on the Nook Color, I don't think it's outrageous to expect the Tab should get Honeycomb instead of Gingerbread. After looking at the Honeycomb announcement from Google though, I'm not sure a lot of the interface changes are an improvement. I'm not sure we need a status bar at the bottom taking up space.

Is there an ETA for 2.3? Reading what you guys wrote makes me look forward to it.
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brilldoctor said:
What is tho point in goving us gingerbread? Surley it would make more sense to give us.honeycomb
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i agree, with honeycomb almost here why would they waste time with such an incremental update?

For the phone part, maybe? I am one of those whose traded in phone (a n1, too) for gtab, and that is working well for me. Don't know what to believe, but if honeycomb is for tablets, then would there be 'stuff' in it to support gsm voice?
If not and a gtabable version of gingerbread (with voice) is available, I'd love to have it.
Another thing to ponder, the leading edge, latest and greatest android rev from Google, will probably always hit the flagship device for that rev first to(sorta obvious statement)! it will be sometime before it will make other devices; even the older flagships. Look at gingerbread now -- available for nexus s; but still in the 'next few weeks' state for n1. And I'd think manufactures, HTC, sammy, Motorola etc are tepid about porting new android revs to old hardware - it kinda takes away sexiness of their latest hardware that does run latest android.. . What i am saying? I think it is gonna be sometime before we see a new significant rev upgrade from sammy. I hope i am wrong.

Is Gingerbread finally coming to the G3?

Samsung is reportedly going to upgrade its Galaxy series of smartphones to Android 2.3 Gingerbread platform by the end of the year.The Mobile Indian quotes a Samsung executive as saying the upgrade should be available within six to eight weeks from now. According to the Samsung executive, the Gingerbread update will be rolled out for entire Galaxy series of smartphones. The development comes days after LG announced Gingerbread update (Android 2.3)for its Optimus smartphones. Sony Ericsson also started rolling out Android 2.3.4 update for its Xperia-range of smartphones.
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http://www.thinkdigit.com/Mobiles-PDAs/Samsung-to-roll-out-Gingerbread-update-for_7854.html
What do you think? Will our G3 be in the list of phones getting GB?

Hope so.If we will get update it will roll out after new year in february or something.But if we get it it would be realy good
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Yeah i think it will come. But i also think that CM7 is better;p

i doubt it. still hope it will come but why would they come back at their decision to not roll out GB for the g3?
still crossing fingers though.

hasjee said:
i doubt it. still hope it will come but why would they come back at their decision to not roll out GB for the g3?
still crossing fingers though.
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Because htc and sony did it...

I hope so but I think that phone is too short of everything to work smoothly.

The phone could easily run gingerbread and Samsung isn't really doing it for the customers anyway. It's doing it because the optimus and xperia range of phones are all being upgraded to gingerbread and Samsung doesn't want to look like they don't care about their customers.

Well I believe that history is repeating itself
When Samsung was going to release the 2.3 update for galaxy s and other at that time it released the froyo update for us. It may be that now ICS is coming up so they want to release an update here just for the sake of name OHH WE HAVE I UPDATE FOR EVERYONE!!

let the hopes never die my friendsssss
Support this also......
http://getsatisfaction.com/samsungm...l&utm_source=reply_notification#reply_7087027
Edit : Samsung Quotes....
Samsung is going to ensure that all Android 2.2 Froyo running smartphones — Galaxy Fit, Galaxy Pop, and Galaxy Mini will get the Android 2.3 Gingerbread update before the end of this year. Apparently Samsung aims that all Android smartphones in India should run Gingerbread update

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Edit : Samsung Quotes....
Samsung is going to ensure that all Android 2.2 Froyo running smartphones — Galaxy Fit, Galaxy Pop, and Galaxy Mini will get the Android 2.3 Gingerbread update before the end of this year. Apparently Samsung aims that all Android smartphones in India should run Gingerbread update
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Where did you see that quote?

kyrillos13 said:
Where did you see that quote?
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http://www.themobileindian.com/news...tphones-to-get-Gingerbread-update-by-year-end
At the bottom of the news....check it bro...

raja4sure said:
http://www.themobileindian.com/news...tphones-to-get-Gingerbread-update-by-year-end
At the bottom of the news....check it bro...
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Hm yes... Samsung :S

turboblaz said:
Hope so.If we will get update it will roll out after new year in february or something.But if we get it it would be realy good
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it seems the update is coming around the end of december.
kyrillos13 said:
Because htc and sony did it...
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and LG too..
Dios_Vengativo said:
I hope so but I think that phone is too short of everything to work smoothly.
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our G3 can easily run gingerbread and it will be smoother than froyo. phones with less specs are running GB

if the android os itself would be so demanding then phones wouldnt be able to handle apps on top of it.
g3 would probably be able to run icecream sandwich too but we will never be able to get it officialy.

mehh..
I have no doubt about g3 handling gingerbread, have seem the current CM7 port run on it.
but since the statement was made by an Indian Samsung executive, and clearly mentioned the newer mid-range (pop, fit and mini) that came out with the 2.2 out of the box, I am afraid samsung might decide to forget about the g3's which seem to be discontinued in the indian market, as this is clearly a strategy to sell more mid-range phones to the indian consumers, what with the launch of icecream sandwich, froyo would seem too outdated out of the box unless an update was promised.
Well no harm in remaining hopeful, but i am still taking this with a pinch of salt.

Dont think that gingerbread is going to come.... froyo update took much longer to come than promised and if gingerbread is going to come, it'll probably b very late

I believe Samsung will only release gingerbread to the galaxy phones that are currently being sold (tab, ace, mini and such), not to the old ones (3, 5...).
But even so, maybe it is still of some use if developers can put their hands on some drivers for hardware in those models that were also used on the old ones.

Does this mean we will get touchwiz 4.0? It is so much better than the crappy one we have and it's a lot faster and hardly any lag.

Smonic said:
Does this mean we will get touchwiz 4.0? It is so much better than the crappy one we have and it's a lot faster and hardly any lag.
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I dont think so beacuse tw4 is only for armv7
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turboblaz said:
I dont think so beacuse tw4 is only for armv7
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If only we could get hardware updates!

Android 4.0 comes to Nexus S starting today

I guess development of the ICS port for our SGS will get a little better after this
Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) comes to GSM / UMTS Nexus S starting today and maybe we'll see some ICS "leaks" for SGS too

already posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395957

AllGamer said:
already posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395957
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damn just found out and wanted to share with my buddies here
someone should make a sticky about this info so we won't see what happened when 4.0 was released

Crap. Not for 9020A

is this gonne help the modding / making of ics rom for ouhr i9000's

SKeijmel said:
is this gonne help the modding / making of ics rom for ouhr i9000's
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Yes, i guess it will help the developers somewhat for CM9.
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[*] Some camera options FC. (The camera is a temporary hack, when the Nexus S ICS source is released, there will be a proper fix.)
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I believe it will help with the hardware composition, gpu drivers etc... People on the Nexus forum say it's ultra fast! I want my SGS ultra fast too!
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How ca i install this on my galacy s?
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If sammy wont act like a b*tch, then we will also get ICS like the nexus s one in one or two months, hopefully. I dont even want the touchwiz itself on my sgs with ICS, only the music and video player from SGS GB those are for me the best apps.
So lets just hope that there will be soon an update for our awesome phone
cauz there arent so many differences between the phones, ok, cam is different, touch keys are different and nand flash is different. But doesnt matter^^ If sammy wont do anything, there is CM9 ;D

I really hope Sammy is listening to us... we never had the chance to use all the horse power in this phone!!

lets send billions of e-mail twit fb... to samsung so they hear

Not a bad idea!!!!

Sony Ericsson Confirms No New Kernel with ICS!

Sony Ericsson confirms unchanged kernel for Android 4.0 ICS release, they will still retain Kernel 2.6.32.
IMO fail!
Source: http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/01/0...unchanged-kernel-for-android-4-0-ics-release/
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Dong2007

What the...this has just put me off again. I now feel like getting a galaxy s2. I hope there will be a new kernel release soon after the ICS release
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rkanwar said:
What the...this has just put me off again. I now feel like getting a galaxy s2. I hope there will be a new kernel release soon after the ICS release
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Did you even read the article? The reason is to get ICS released ASAP.. it's not like they're never going to make a new kernel again. As far as the general public is concerned, this means nothing.

Excellent news, it means we get ICS early this year, not late 2012..
Or did you want it late 2012 with no tangible benefit to end users?
There is very little benefit in mobile kernels. I would love to hear how much you ***THINK*** a 3.0 kernel will give you in performance terms over a 2.6.32 one. my guess would be 0% or very close to that. I would also love to hear when features that have been introduced between these releases you think your Xperia Arc needs.
Personally, I have NO performance problems, NO battery life problems, No signal problems and No reliability problems, and it's therefore an excellent candidate to layer ICS ontop of.

CrazyPeter said:
you ***THINK*** a 3.0 kernel will give you in performance terms over a 2.6.32 one. my guess would be 0% or very close to that.
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It is very hard claims and come up with, can you prove it, or any kind of source?

Samsung and HTC, running right now on kernel 2.6.35.
If they come with an ICS with kernel 3.0.x, Shows the just that S/E is again too lazy.

At first we should be happy to get ICS and SE can update the kernel after that.
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Sorry guys, but you're idiots.
Would you not like to get ICS asap?
Sony's dev team is really supporting the community.
Do you think any other producer are supporting any kind of community that much?
We've great phones.
And pls don't say wow the SGS2 has a dual-core, bla bla..
If you've already used a phone like the SGS2 or HTC Sensation you'll notice that our device isn't a little bit worse.
Btw Sony will make a new kernel, just not now, because they are really want to get ICS fixed.
And the current kernel have a great (!!) battery life. Every new kernel won't have that soon.

dp94 said:
Sorry guys, but you're idiots.
Would you not like to get ICS asap?
Sony's dev team is really supporting the community.
Do you think any other producer are supporting any kind of community that much?
We've great phones.
And pls don't say wow the SGS2 has a dual-core, bla bla..
If you've already used a phone like the SGS2 or HTC Sensation you'll notice that our device isn't a little bit worse.
Btw Sony will make a new kernel, just not now, because they are really want to get ICS fixed.
And the current kernel have a great (!!) battery life. Every new kernel won't have that soon.
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Ok so when Sony comes out with dualcore your going to say wow it's the best! Come on dualcore is the way to go and let's not forget arc has little memory I just hope it can Handel ice cream
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Poker gypsy said:
Ok so when Sony comes out with dualcore your going to say wow it's the best! Come on dualcore is the way to go and let's not forget arc has little memory I just hope it can Handel ice cream
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Currently there are no dual-core needed.
Memory? What memory issues do you have?
I've always about 200 MB RAM free and over 300 MB internal memory (Link2SD).
And sure I'll like the future Sony phones, because I'm a really Sony fan and not why they will have dual-core processors.
Sure, sometime in the future there are dual-core processors needed, but take a look at the SGS2, if there weren't the only "bug" with the little memory at our devices there are no differences at all.

There are only very few apps that supports or take advantage of Dual Core rest of them will only support single core. Even Google is just releasing a OS that's optimized for dual core. Sony is doing it rite by delaying the production of dual core phones. Regarding the kernel lets not forget the top priority is releasing ICS then they might think about upgrading the kernel. For more than 60 to 70% of the people new kernel means nothing they just look if Sony is upgrading to ICS.
How many of them even know what are the new features of 3.0x kernel? At least they had the courtesy of letting us know that they are not upgrading the kernel and the reason why they are not doing so. Be happy that Sony's developers are involving us and taking feedback and RESPONDING to it them which most of the manufactures fail to do.
So lets stop complains and be thankful that SE is release ICS as soon as they can.

Hoho, now guys is turn to dual core discussion lol. However, I don't need dual core at this time. If eeryone likes, just take one SGS2 but I don't like that ****ty UI or f***king TouchWiz, extremely ugly. About kernel, you will not see much performance. It is depended much thing than a kernel. A phone with 300MHz can run a 3.x.x kernel if that company still want to support but do you think it will boost your phone performance? Lol. Just think, don't complain. However, you will get new kernel from devs here.

ShyamSasi said:
There are only very few apps that supports or take advantage of Dual Core rest of them will only support single core. Even Google is just releasing a OS that's optimized for dual core. Sony is doing it rite by delaying the production of dual core phones. Regarding the kernel lets not forget the top priority is releasing ICS then they might think about upgrading the kernel. For more than 60 to 70% of the people new kernel means nothing they just look if Sony is upgrading to ICS.
How many of them even know what are the new features of 3.0x kernel? At least they had the courtesy of letting us know that they are not upgrading the kernel and the reason why they are not doing so. Be happy that Sony's developers are involving us and taking feedback and RESPONDING to it them which most of the manufactures fail to do.
So lets stop complains and be thankful that SE is release ICS as soon as they can.
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Hoho, now guys is turn to dual core discussion lol. However, I don't need dual core at this time. If eeryone likes, just take one SGS2 but I don't like that ****ty UI or f***king TouchWiz, extremely ugly. About kernel, you will not see much performance. It is depended much thing than a kernel. A phone with 300MHz can run a 3.x.x kernel if that company still want to support but do you think it will boost your phone performance? Lol. Just think, don't complain. However, you will get new kernel from devs here.
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Totally agreeing.
I'm happy there are still people who are realistic and can picture the future.

Should let SE know we need newer kernel for ics, that probably need to fix battery life, well its the most crucial part for any phone.
Take example the jason stein miui, the battery kernel really save my day, where on standby with some wifi and other apps use, it can stay 2 days...
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nujhum said:
Should let SE know we need newer kernel for ics, that probably need to fix battery life, well its the most crucial part for any phone.
Take example the jason stein miui, the battery kernel really save my day, where on standby with some wifi and other apps use, it can stay 2 days...
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The stock kernel has a great battery life.

dp94 said:
The stock kernel has a great battery life.
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Agreed cyrrently stock kernel has good battery life. Agreed regarding bringing out ics earlier. But dont forget. It wont make a difference for those people who have not debranded. All that carrier bulls**t will delay...then theres the region factor. I never said 'omg no new kernel' then cry myself to sleep. I said i hope the new kernel is released soon after the ics update. In regards of dual core and memory. Well for someone who doesnt know about rooting link2sd or xda for that matter how will they prefer the arc over a phone which is has higher internal memory. Which is the one major thing that brought me down with the arc s. Apparently it was meant to have 1gb internal user available. Turns out its the as the arc. No biggie for me since i know about link2sd. Come on most of us have to agree that sony is slow (or behind competitors) dont get me wrong. I love my arc s after releasing 75% of its full potential as i am unsure of the remaining 25%. Thanks for being patient.
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nujhum said:
Should let SE know we need newer kernel for ics, that probably need to fix battery life, well its the most crucial part for any phone.
Take example the jason stein miui, the battery kernel really save my day, where on standby with some wifi and other apps use, it can stay 2 days...
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My new arc gives me also juce for 2 days with 3G on some (short) GPS navigation ... just on stock.
I'm happy my Huawei Ideos x5 was defective so I could get the Arc. The X5 lasted only one day ...

dp94 said:
Sorry guys, but you're idiots.
Would you not like to get ICS asap?
Sony's dev team is really supporting the community.
Do you think any other producer are supporting any kind of community that much?
We've great phones.
And pls don't say wow the SGS2 has a dual-core, bla bla..
If you've already used a phone like the SGS2 or HTC Sensation you'll notice that our device isn't a little bit worse.
Btw Sony will make a new kernel, just not now, because they are really want to get ICS fixed.
And the current kernel have a great (!!) battery life. Every new kernel won't have that soon.
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Ah, don't walk right into that trap darling.. You are just as stupid, if not much more. And here are some reasons why:
First of all, you know nothing substantial about the Linux kernel.
Yes, SE Dev TEAM is truly supporting and gets closer to the users.
Yes, we want ICS soon but doesn't ICS mean a new kernel too? Because Google builds Android updates on new kernels and unless you think Google is stupid too, they must be doing it for the better and not for worse.
I won't dignify your assumption about battery life with a comment, because
you are clearly clueless. And all other companies update their kernels and release timely updates, so SE should be able to do it too.
And if you want ICS soon at any cost then make an ICS theme and tell yourself you got it.
I want to get full ICS experience and capabilities on my phone, either sooner or later.
And SE never said it will release the kernel later. On the contrary they said it's unnecessary, which implies it won't happen.
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I love threads like this, so much rage for something 90% of users (remember people, most users are not on XDA) will never notice, and even if they knew, wouldn't care about.
I have every faith that SE will update the kernel sooner or later, but I just love the fact that if they announced ICS was delayed for a few months for them to build a new kernel, everyone would rage that they are taking too long.
I for one am perfectly happy with the current kernel, and I'm glad they chose to get ICS out quickly and update that later. I think for the average user, this is the preferable option.
Incidentally worth mentioning, I'm on stock kernel and my battery life is fine, I dont know if I just have a magic phone but I can't understand the problem

S/E Kernel 2.6.32 are from 2009, and Kernel 3.0.X are from late 2011, same is ICS.
So I think there's a big difference between 3.0.x and 2.3.32. For example, better performance and better battery life more secure kernel. People are so desperate for ICS, that they do not care about kernel. But why do something half as good, when you can make it fully well