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Hi, have the 1.48 rom installed and when using Opera 9.7, pinching to zoom seems to move the page to a random place (hope that makes sense).
For example, when trying to zoom into the pages 1,2,3 of a forum so that I can select the next page, I zoom in but end up looking at a different part of the page. I've tried changing the way I pinch, i.e. up and down, rather than diaganally, but to no avail. Not sure if anyone here has the same problem, or whether its just when viewing xda pages?
Thanks.
It's because the page is reformatted to fit the screen width, after you've zoomed in. So you are actually looking at where you zoomed into, but the content is now in a different place. If you notice, it works perfectly on images (images opened directly, not within a web page) but appears to jump when you zoom on text.
Hope that makes sense.
Yes, it's not a bug, it's because of Opera's text reflow feature. The page will always jump to the left when you zooom in/out if there's text (yeah that sucks!).
But there's actually a pinch-zoom bug on the HD2 related to the native winmo apps (File Explorer, etc..). The fuction suddenly disappears after a while and is only brought back by a soft reset : http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/12/26/6-bugs-that-htc-has-to-fix-on-the-hd2/
Thanks for the quick replies guys.
Thought it was me and my sausage fingers
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
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It is possible but awkward like you say. I find that if you put your thumb at the bottom of the screen and move up with you index finger (so move only one finger) it recentres better than moving both fingers.
I also get huge fonts (set on "Small") eg http://m.google.com/calendar
sometimes text do not reflow to fit screen.
sometimes clicking on links don't work, no response, BUT zoomin/out works.
weird shtuff
optiknerv said:
I find that if you put your thumb at the bottom of the screen and move up with you index finger (so move only one finger) it recentres better than moving both fingers.
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I only partially agree
I also noticed that if you do it this way it would center a little bit better as you somewhat keep the screen anchored with your thumb and because you remove the risk of inadvertently scroll a little the text while pinch to zooming or when you remove your fingers off the screen.
Yet if you zoom a lot as for clicking on the damned "< 1 2 3 ... Last>" links it definitely s*cks ! You can see that the text is ok before opera re-render and reflow the text then the text run away
I certainly wouldn't call this a major problem, all it takes is scrolling a little after zooming in, and it's definitely much better than having no reflow - I tried Safari on my wife's iPhone, and it's much more painful.
I agree ...
- it's definitely better than no reflow or no pinch to zoom at all
- it's probably better than iPhone (never gone to the dark side of the force )
but
- if would be definitely better if Opera remembered the position of the center spot of pinch to zoom and then recenter itself there
For most of the links as a word or a sentence underlined or an image link it is OK ... but for the really small links as the <1 2 3 ... Last> ones below it just a pain (maybe you have less chubby fat fingers than me )
Just sticking my oar in, but from an experienced developer's point of view, what you are asking for is a COMPLETE nightmare to develop!
You're actually saying that you want Opera to remember what text is at the centre point of your pinch-to-zoom action, and then find it, after text re-flow, and center it on the page again.
This is ridiculously difficult.
Open an image in Opera and you'll see that it does actually center on where you pinch, but that's obviously because there's no text re-flow in the case of an image. (Incidentally, I mean an image, and not a page with an image on it. The URL should end with an image extension, such as .jpg, .png etc..)
I'm not saying you're all wingers or anything like that, as I too would love this to work in the way you all say you want. I'm just adding a bit of perspective.
I agree it is difficult ... yet not more that rendering the web pages or doing the text reflow itself ! Don't get me wrong, I respect the great job done by opera software ... yet they can do better
Opera is a browser coded from scratch, all the rendering is under opera software developers control. It is not like they are using some memo or third party component to do the reflow and have no control over how it draws itself. They render all the code word by word, letter by letter, pixel by pixel, where they decide to render it. So I suppose they can tag a word or link that will be the center, then do the text reflow, then center back at the right place.
Yet I would also appreciate a simple workaround : a timeout of 1 or 2 seconds to wait after pinch to zoom before the text reflow is done. This way I can zoom my link and click it before it runs away
I usually just double tap because of this. It still works best.
I am 100% in agreement with you. I just bought my wife a iPhone 3gs and I love using safari. I think its a great browser because its very smooth and easy to use. The pinch to zoom feature is very nice I can zoom exactly where I need to go with very little effort. I just received my HD2 Telstra yesterday and have to say that Opera is really bad and not as responsive. I have spent the last couple of hours trying to find a safari like browser with no luck. Lets hope that with wm7 IE gets a little closer to Apples implementation of a browser.
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
This is worse and worse as you try to zoom in a lot on a small area, typically in XDA forums if trying to zoom in a lot on the tiny page links at the bottom right of the page " First < 1 2 3 ... Last >" to display them big enough to easily click them with the finger or thumb, I have to pinch to zoom, then scroll a lot to recenter them, then pinch to zoom again, then scroll again to center again, to finally be able to click the link !
I think that Opera Mobile should keep the screen centered on the spot where the pinch to zoom was executed !
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Hi, might I suggest you give opera 10 beta a try , it does not have pinch and zoom which would be good for you also it does have other useful enhancements you might also like.
http://www.opera.com/mobile/
I use double tapping as well so I'm not that bothered with that.
What bothers me more thou is when I click on the link and then go back to the same page it never goes back to the same part of a website. Its soooooo annoying.
Lord.Nibbler said:
Hi there,
I am the only one here really annoyed by the implementation of "Pinch To Zoom" inside Opera Mobile ?
First I thought that it was because of my chubby fat fingers but after several tests it definitely is an Opera Mobile issue :
I suppose that because of the text reflow after the pinch to zoom, the screen is never centered where I actually zoomed in but shifted at "miles away" and I have to scroll a lot to find the spot where I actually pinched to zoom in
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This annoys the hell out of me, as well - as you say, it's particularly annoying when trying to zoom in on a very small link (like the page numbers of a thread on this forum, or the "jump to first unread message in this thread" link from the contents page).
To those who are advocating double-tapping "instead", that works fine for reading text, but it doesn't zoom in nearly far enough to allow you to click on a very small link. If you could double-tap several times to zoom in successive levels, that would be fine, but you can't - the second double-tap zooms out again. (Any way to change this?)
I downloaded office 2010 mobile and I believe IE was included or I just didn't see it before (New rom and New device HD2). I ran IE and what an improvement microsoft has made. The rendering using the zoom bar seems as nice as safari. The biggest issue again is pinch to zoom. My HD2 rocks but without pinch to zoom browser it pretty much makes it a pain.
Shasarak said:
This annoys the hell out of me, as well - as you say, it's particularly annoying when trying to zoom in on a very small link (like the page numbers of a thread on this forum, or the "jump to first unread message in this thread" link from the contents page).
To those who are advocating double-tapping "instead", that works fine for reading text, but it doesn't zoom in nearly far enough to allow you to click on a very small link. If you could double-tap several times to zoom in successive levels, that would be fine, but you can't - the second double-tap zooms out again. (Any way to change this?)
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is it possible to disable text re-flow?
ok so this is about the only major bug i have with opera ...you tap to zoom and it flys off and zooms in where you were not looking !!! and if you're zoomed in under the double tap and then try to pinch zoom a bit more to click the tiny "1,2,3...last" on forum links it will fly off again....im forever having to try and find where i was on a page ...soooooooooooo annoying !
how do we fix this ??
how about this for annoying....i am reading a post and the screen locks. i unlock and the browser jumps to the top agsin!
try iris 1.1.9 web browser.. its like safari with webkits support except it was bought by RIM blackberry before it even finetune itself ...non the less it works
I also hope this issue gets resolved. Pinch to zoom doesn't center where I actually zoom in.
Hi guys
I recently upgraded my rom via the htc website, it upgraded the sense ui to 2.5.
Before upgrading when i used opera i could double tap on a point on a web page and it would zoom to that point on the page. Since upgrading i can no longer do this.
Has anybody else had this issue?
Thanks in advance...keep up the great work!
Instead of doubletaping you just tap once.
tried that it does nothing.
just to clarify im not trying to hit a link to go to another page, just to zoom to a particular part of that page.
Thanks for replying
resolved..
apparently you can not double tap to zoom on a mobile version of a website. The double tap works as it should on a normal version of website.
Thanks for your replies
Seems to work fine, it zooms in with a double tap, although it zooms in a bit too much for my taste, but you can also use the magni slider at the bottom
First of all, I love my phone and I love the stock Android browser.
With that said, I see two ways the browser could be slightly improved.
I often find myself managing multiple tabs in the browser (4-6 at any given time). I find that when I go to my open tabs (Menu > Windows), it's very hard to tell which one is the active tab. I think they're listed in the order in which they're opened, but that doesn't help me when I constantly jump back and forth between them. There's no indication which tab is active, and the fact that the font is so large and you have a truncated URL and page title makes it difficult to tell what's what.
Is there an option or tweak that allows the active tab to be bolded/colored differently, font size to be reduced, display to be thumbnailed rather than listed, or to arrange the tabs in a different way (ie; last viewed on top rather than first viewed)?
My second question has to do with locking the orientation of the browser to either portrait or landscape. This would be useful if I'm laying in bed on my side reading webpages. I'd want the orientation to "stick" to portrait so that I'm reading like normal rather than have the browser switch to landscape and have to angle my phone so that the accelerometer switches back and stays on portrait.
Is there an option or tweak to force the browser to "stick" to either portrait or landscape mode for a given period of time?
Browser > More > Settings and check Landscape-only display.
Not sure about the other question though.
Dougefresh91 said:
Browser > More > Settings and check Landscape-only display.
Not sure about the other question though.
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Hmm, what I actually need it to do is lock into portrait mode, not landscape.
You should check out Dolphin Browser HD. Tabbed browsing, orirntation settings, add ons, tons more. Just search for it in the market.
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Here is a screenshot if how it looks. The tabs at the top can be scrolled to the left or right if you have a few.
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HTC did a much better job at tweaking the browser in Android than Samsung. (myTouch slide is my other phone).
southpaw773 said:
HTC did a much better job at tweaking the browser in Android than Samsung. (myTouch slide is my other phone).
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I agree to an extent, feels choppy when you choose a window on the slide though, and you're stuck with 3 tabs Max on it, I actually like HTC sense more than espresso.
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Solution: An app called "AutoRotate Switch."
Works flawlessly! Tapping the icon toggles between locked and unlocked orientations. Amazing.
I read about it here: http://lifehacker.com/5621959/autorotate-switch-toggles-screen-rotation-on-your-android-phone
Still in search of a solution to problem #1 which was:
Is there an option or tweak that allows the active browser tab to be bolded/colored differently, font size in tab overview page to be reduced, display of thumbnail overview page to be thumbnailed rather than listed, or to arrange the tabs in a different way (ie; last viewed on top rather than first viewed)?
SGS2 is a fantastic phone but one of the most annoying things I find is when you zoom in on the browser, the webpage doesn't seem to do the screen auto-fit.
Double tapping it doesn't seem to do the trick either where this feature is available to the former SGS1.
I have already ticked the box for Auto-fit in the settings menu to no avail. I use browser zooming all the time and it's frustrating you have to scroll from left to right and vice versa to read for every single line. It's doing my head-in!! What else can I do to make this work?
Thanks in advance.
You need to totally zoomed out of the page then double tap and the text will be rearranged.
If you are already zoomed in, double tap once will do a zoom out, do that one more time to auto-fit the text.
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tmj12 said:
SGS2 is a fantastic phone but one of the most annoying things I find is when you zoom in on the browser, the webpage doesn't seem to do the screen auto-fit.
Double tapping it doesn't seem to do the trick either where this feature is available to the former SGS1.
I have already ticked the box for Auto-fit in the settings menu to no avail. I use browser zooming all the time and it's frustrating you have to scroll from left to right and vice versa to read for every single line. It's doing my head-in!! What else can I do to make this work?
Thanks in advance.
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This is another reason why not to use the stock SGS2 browser (the other being that it brings the battery to its knees).
Try Menu > More > Settings, uncheck "Open pages in overview", and check "Auto-fit pages".
nhat2991 said:
You need to totally zoomed out of the page then double tap and the text will be rearranged.
If you are already zoomed in, double tap once will do a zoom out, do that one more time to auto-fit the text.
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Double tapping only switches between overview and default zoom level - both of them do allow auto-fit. However, if you zoom in at a level greater than the default zoomed-in level, it certainly does not perform the auto-fit again as it should be and in this case double tapping would only take it back to overview level. I regularly need to zoom in more than the default zoom level. It's so annoying!! Surely, I'm not the only person experiencing this issue.
Opera Mobile has it.
There's already a thread on this topic about 500 pages long titled text reflow. Perhaps all your answers are contained there.
RogerPodacter said:
There's already a thread on this topic about 500 pages long titled text reflow. Perhaps all your answers are contained there.
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Did a search for this but nothing came up. Have you got the link to that thread?
I need to find out how to resolve this issue as it's ruining my browsing experience..
tmj12 said:
Did a search for this but nothing came up. Have you got the link to that thread?
I need to find out how to resolve this issue as it's ruining my browsing experience..
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The clue to the referenced thread is in the post above yours, where he actually gives you the title of said thread. If you then do a search with that same title.........
This settings help..
U double tap it will zoom to a decent viewing level, and text has Bernard organised to fit the screen.. But if you zoom in manually, it won't autofit screen
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hua_wuxin said:
Try Menu > More > Settings, uncheck "Open pages in overview", and check "Auto-fit pages".
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Very helpful indeed , but like my previous post said
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tmj12 said:
Did a search for this but nothing came up. Have you got the link to that thread?
I need to find out how to resolve this issue as it's ruining my browsing experience..
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I did another test on the Samsung infuse today and text reflow definitely works. Now we just need to figure out why Samsung would leave it out of their flagship phone.
Dumbass browser move by Samsung, as well as not having settings for desktop displays.
'Best browser' in the industry: NOT because they don't enable these key features. Idiotic.
Regarding zoom you have to pinch zoom to required level and rotate the phone it auto fits your page in whatever zoom level.you should keep auto rotation on.
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JSAHITA said:
Regarding zoom you have to pinch zoom to required level and rotate the phone it auto fits your page in whatever zoom level.you should keep auto rotation on.
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Yeah it autofit if you rotate it. But the funny thing it will autofit if you zoom in after a rotate.
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