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[Q] Will the GTab get/run Honeycomb?

I have seen posts all over XDA and other forums regarding this.
Does anyone have the REAL word on this????

There has no been official word from Samsung either way. From the dev work here it is certainly capable of running Honeycomb.

w4rmk said:
There has no been official word from Samsung either way. From the dev work here it is certainly capable of running Honeycomb.
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I really hope so. Have been looking forward to running Honeycomb ever since it was launched. And even more so when I actually got my Tab!
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Since Honeycomb is a tablet only OS my guess is the Tab will get Gingerbread instead since all the Tabs except the ones in North America officially have the phone feature. But, judging from the trend of Samsung it seems 2.2 may just be it and business wise they feel that will inspire you to spend more money on buying the new Tab or S2 to get the latest OS. But, that's just my opinion.
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Well, I got the galaxy tab thinking it would at least get gingerbread.
As for Honeycomb, I think it should run OK. Even if the whole OS doesn't run, I'm sure we will at least get apks for the tablet optimised apps like gmail.
But hey, there's a new HTC 7" tablet announced with slightly better specs and it's said to get honeycomb. HTC is popular, I'm sure we can get a port from them.

xshocksin said:
.... But, judging from the trend of Samsung it seems 2.2 may just be it and business wise they feel that will inspire you to spend more money on buying the new Tab or S2....
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their strategy might just work after a fashion...i might spend more money on a new tablet-it will just be a tablet from a manufacturer who is more committed to providing updates to existing customers. ie not samsung.
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I reckon not...
Chances are I would say no, if they give us honeycomb, why would we go out and buy their new tab?

arnie580 said:
Chances are I would say no, if they give us honeycomb, why would we go out and buy their new tab?
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The new Tab is a 10.1" device, which makes it a completely different animal in my opinion.
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Dave

IMHO Samsung dont seem to really care about it's exsisting customers only the new ones.
ive got an S and Tab and although i like both devices the lack of support winds me up, they constantly release new hardware with the latest software and seem reluctant to support what is in fact still "new" devices.
I dont buy into "you bought they device with froyo, so that's what youve got"
I expect high end hardware to be fully supported it's an insult they release a new device after 6 months without supporting the current one.
Any legit reason for not having honeycomb? No none.
I really cant see myself buying another Samsung product.

If the OEM doesn't wanna play nice and give us Gingerbread let alone Honeycomb, I'm sure the ORSUM devs here will be able to "cook" something up.
Afterall, isn't that what this forum is all about?

Some little 'savings' for Samsung
Samsung care about costumers already have. There is official 2.2.1 there are lot of other devices from other manufacturers what simply won't get 2.2... and we will get 2.3 also... Who said they don't care about costumers... New tablets are not the same category, except HTC Flyer almost all are 10 inch monster and for lot of money... Not the same race as Galaxy Tab in. We bought our device on the last quarter of year, will we rush for a new one just for Honeycomb and dual core CPU, don't think so... This is problem for Samsung? Don't think so. Will be no people in the future who change his/her device in every next quarter... If Samsung leave me alone, would we buy any new Samsung device in the future? Don't think so... Could it be a big business? Don't think so... We will see...

"As for original Tab owners, all is not lost. Wong said they’re “discussing internally on the next update, but we haven’t made a decision yet. In the future, when we have made a decision, we will let you know.”
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I would say that executive is dead wrong. This year the market will be flooded with 10" tablets running Honeycomb. As such manufacturer's need to find a way to differentiate themselves from the pack. Samsung's current Tab does that by having a smaller size and being able to make phone calls. I hope Samsung decides to make a next-gen Tab 7 to go along with their new Tab 10. I am very happy with the current Tab but I also think it could definitely benefit from a dual core processor and fast graphics engine.

Tab and Honeycomb
w4rmk said:
I would say that executive is dead wrong. This year the market will be flooded with 10" tablets running Honeycomb. As such manufacturer's need to find a way to differentiate themselves from the pack. Samsung's current Tab does that by having a smaller size and being able to make phone calls. I hope Samsung decides to make a next-gen Tab 7 to go along with their new Tab 10. I am very happy with the current Tab but I also think it could definitely benefit from a dual core processor and fast graphics engine.
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I very much agree with what was said.
added note that we all know that the nook color has honeycomb running already. even though its a port of the sdk, doesn't the nook color have lesser specs than the TAB? I'm positive that we will get something made for us.Surly not by OEM, but by yours truly, the amazing devs.... after we clean up the mess in the Development Section. It looks like a 9 year old went to clean his room because his mom said so and just took all of his toys and shoved them in the closet.

If the Tab doesn't get an update to Honeycomb from Samsung, I will be a former customer, I'll donate this to my mom, and I'll switch to the HTC Flyer. They've been brilliant with their updates, and their UI updates for Android.

Same for me, if the Tab doesn't get an update to Honeycomb from Samsung, I will not buy any other Samsun device ever. The minimum I expect from them is to give support to an only 5 months old Tablet. When I said support I am meaning updates.

Rocheau said:
Same for me, if the Tab doesn't get an update to Honeycomb from Samsung, I will not buy any other Samsun device ever. The minimum I expect from them is to give support to an only 5 months old Tablet. When I said support I am meaning updates.
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Unless Samsung intends to phase out production of the 7 inch galaxy tab I don't see how they can not support a Honeycomb release. By all reports that I have seen the Galaxy Tab is selling very well indeed and that would mean that Samsung would continue with production for quite some time. If they choose to produce the 7 inch tab with gingerbread only and the tab 2 with honeycomb it would indicate that the 7 inch tab is doomed as far as Samsung is concerned. They would gradually phase out production of the 7 inch tablet altogether.
One other possibility that Samsung might try is to produce a dual core 7 inch version of the tab with Honeycomb installed. That would give them an excuse not to support the current galaxy tab by encouraging current owners to move up to the dual core technology.
As far as Samsung committing to 10 inch tablets is concerned...only the market will determine what size(s) will be produced. If consumers prefer a smaller tablet the manufacturer's will continue to produce tablets in the size that the market wants. To do otherwise would mean giving up market share and I don't think any of them are willing to lose market share in a market that is growing very quickly.
Either way Honeycomb will wind up on our Galaxy Tabs. The developers here at XDA are brilliant and I'm sure they will combine their skills to port Honeycomb to the current Galaxy Tab.

The short answer.…yes it will, but not from Samsung and not anytime soon.
From the Tab.
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I think the state of smartphones is tough for the manufacturer and consumer right now because the evolution of technology for smartphones are out of control right now. Someone needs to step up and say "hey, we need to tone it down a notch. We need to allow the consumer to catch up and actually enjoy the investment they just made". Yes, it is an investment for the consumer because they are actually committing to 2 year contracts or paying a lot of money for full price phones. So, manufacturers need to roll things out slowly as far as new hardware goes and enjoy the profits till they start to see it dropping then roll out the next great thing. On the OS side of it? I think Google needs to step up and say "hey, we need to get all the devices that can handle the most latest and greatest version of android updated and caught up." Then, from there roll out new versions at a solid steady pace. Take some control if they really want the android OS to rule the smartphone/tablet market. Of course this is just my opinion.
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for what it's worth, i like my tab coz it has a phone function period.
even if we dont get honeycomb, we would definitely get ice cream when it landed on nexus which is honeycombish and gingerbreadish
its fine for me
patient is the key ^^

All the new phones announced yet I still want the Nexus S.

After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?

Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I watched all of CES and I've been following MWC a bit more loosely but not a single one of them makes me want to give up my Nexus S. If you could keep my SNS I'd love to have an HTC Pyramid on top of it but just for poops and giggles. The SNS is the best phone I've owned and I love it.

I feel the same way as you do, but you can also run stock on a Galaxy S II or Motorola Atrix, with Custom ROMs. Of course, it won't be the same as with the Nexus S.
I just like the Nexus s as a whole. What I mean to say with that is that stock Android and updates from Google isn't the only thing I like about the Nexus.

I feel the same. I haven't seen anything that I would want instead of my Nexus S. Vanilla Android beats all

I feel the same..

while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide

None of these new phones are appealing to me at all.
I'll only buy into the Nexus brand from now on. This phone has been everything I've ever wanted from an Android device.

AllGamer said:
while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
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and super amoled+. I'm looking forward to a 4" variant, if they make one.

Love my Nexus S. The hardware, the fact that is supported straight from Google, everything about it.
I'm not saying i'm not curious about the new dual core devices, but think about that for a minute: our single core phones go through a day - day and half with a 1540mA battery. Imagine the talk/standby time of those new phones with only 1650 and 1900 mA batteries. When sth just comes out, usually needs work. Like Win7, dual core phones, the android when it ws first launched.
So, i think i'm gonna wait a while before trying a new device.
Google Nexus S rules...

For the most part, I agree. There's nothing so appealing to make me want to ditch my current Nexus S, however, understand what "stock Android" means.
Yes, you get the latest Google updates, and you get the unhampered Android experience, but just be aware that Android is riddled with glitches ranging from minor annoyances to some pretty major issues. (Just to name a few off my head: keyboard issues, home screen icon and swiping issues, gallery issues, rebooting issues, SMS and MMS issues...)
As long as you understand that being on the Nexus line means you're essentially the "beta tester" for Google's Android iterations, then you shouldn't be disappointed. I'm just sharing my personal experience. I found many things critical about the Android experience on previous phones, but always had OEM skins to blame. On the NS, that excuse is invalid.

I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).
Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).
Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.
HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.
SGSII = Plastic.
Nexus S = Plastic.
I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.
I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.

Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy

DigitaL BlisS said:
Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
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I 100% completely agree in that point
why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?
seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.
personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone
for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone

I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).

I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)
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Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
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So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.
Atrix - locked bootloader
SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!
LG 2x - its an LG lol
I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones

Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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+1
I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...

DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
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Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
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It Is not Right :(((

Samsung has stated the possibility of an official update to the Android operating system version 2.3, which is intended for all of the issued units range Galaxy. The new OS has a more refined user interface has been improved as well by copying and pasting text. In addition there is support for video on the Internet - resources (WebM/VP8) and full support for VoIP calls using the built-in front camera. However, the emphasis on developers are increasing the performance of their devices at the same time, the new version of the operating system has increased the battery life of smartphones by optimizing the energy consumption. All of the devices in this family can be updated automatically by means of an instrument Kies, which is a formal program for flashing devices. The latest version of the operating system can also be downloaded from the official website of the company. updates, in particular, the following models are available: Galaxy S (I9000), Galaxy Ace (S5830), Galaxy Fit (S5670), Galaxy Gio (S5660) and Galaxy Mini (S5570) . Just now getting ready for the new firmware Galaxy S scLCD (I9003), Galaxy Tab 3G (P1000) and Galaxy Tab Wi-Fi (P1010), which will appear later.
Direct From Samsung ....

You are Right, ilievski.ace, full agreement!
But that's the normal behavior since creation of economy. Specially since the invention of the "game" of developing HARDWARE & SOFTWARE
They are not interested, that we use our cheap phones forever. They want you to buy a new one.
That's quiet easy and logical.
Our G3 is not a high end phone and unfortunately the development of software seems to be too expensive for them. So they concentrate on their new devices.
That's sad, but not the customer is their interest but the profit in the end.
I really hate to explain any customers, that they should buy a hole new computer after 3 or 4 years, because it's cheaper for them, than the costs of changing the motherboard and recreate the OS with the new Hardware for example... ;(

Siple answer for samsung reply is that they will not take care of g3. It's not so popular as other models so they leave it for good...
Shame.
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samsung must sold new models, who cares for the old one

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Of course it's not right. I don't care about Samsung's reasons. SG3 is not an old legacy handset, it is about a year old device! There is no reason to abandon it, and contrary to many people's beliefs, it's quite popular because it's relatively cheap for an Android phone so many people have it and use it - Samsung sees this as another opportunity to sell even more handsets to even more people because it will deny many people simple software upgrades. Samsung is acting like Apple and it's a bad behavior, I and many other people will never buy another product - at least a phone - from Samsung. I recommend everyone to pass SG3 and to boycott Samsung in any way they can because Samsung deserves it. Many other manufactures act similarly, but not to this extent and they do release unofficial hacks and they "borrow" their devs to the community to hack some updates even if they refuse to do it publicly. SE X10, the device released in the beginning of 2009 with android 1.5 got it's 2.3.4 update recently! How can Sony-Ericsson do that for practically dead phone? How is that suddenly "Rational" to SE?
Samsuck can screw themselves with their piss poor overpriced hardware, if I wanted to be treated like this I would have bought Apple iPhone 3GS and I would at least have a decent piece of hardware.
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You are right.They just whant money money and again money..
They said that they will update our phone to 2.2 but in my country there is none update and my country isnt listed!!!!?
My point i think that they will never update our phone to 2.3 whic is sad (((
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It's all about money
"KOLKU PARI TOLKU MUZIKA" MEANS HOW MUCH MONEY THAT MUCH MUSIC

Samsung sucks, they look good on paper but they just suck. The hardware of SG3 is badly done, drivers even worse, customer support is rubish, their firmwares are all buged and laggy and unreliable. If they upgraded the phone to 2.3 it would not make much difference i tell you, drivers are really bad. My next phone is going to be HTC i think

Right now I'm thinking in the same way as you. I will change samsung to sth different. Because what i have seen after i bought this phone is a drama... But hope that cm project will be still active because in some way i like this phone.
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yeah, CM7 is really great, since its built from AOSP, no samsung crap. Marcellusbe has my greatest thanks. CM7 a4 is the best ROM i've used, no lags/crap/fcs like in samsungs firmware. I just cant wait for it to get to beta or rc. I won't be buying a new phone for a while now, so the devs are my only hope. Developers>Samsung

Waited for more than 4 months for official update to 2.2 without flashing on my own, since it was promised by Samsung.
And when it arrived my country, what did I get? Crappy, bugged, laggy rom!!!
All this waiting for what?! Flashed straight away to a better firmware like JPM, which wasnt meant for my country. Then after, its all Custom ROMS. And by & far, they are much much much 100x better than what samsung released for public.
I have hope in our DEVs, and Im sure we will get 2.3...big thanks to the DEVs who keep alive our G3.

[Q] no official ics for samsung i9000??

Samsung hasnt confirmed that there would be a official android 4.0 update for samsung i9000. So does this mean we will not get it as a official update? Cuz there is alot of other samsung phones that have been confirmed.

The SGS is almost 2 yrs old,so I'm assuming Samsung might have given up on us.But then again,till it's confirmed,nobody can know for sure.Besides,even if the official ICS for SGS is out,we're gonna end using the custom ROM anyway
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Maybe if we make a few more threads about this we will get an answer? We're probably only 10-20 more threads away if we just keep at it.

Hopefully Samsung hears the pleads of i9000 users and gives us an official update so the devs have a Easyer time giving us the roms.
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I will look forward to getting an official answer to this question.. but SlvrWolf~XP makes a good point...

It will probably be unlikely for Samsung to update our Galaxy S i9000 to ICS since we've already gotten update TWICE (not many phone brand and models got such privilege, Eclair > Froyo > GingerBread). And Samsung may want to make both Galaxy S I and S II (with Nexus S) differentiated so that more people are encouraged to buy the newer phones...

I think SGS will not get ICS
Read today info from Samsung Mobile https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403

Yeah, they just announced on twitter too, seems like Galaxy S is not in the update list.
Well, a port from ICS on the Nexus S should work just fine.
I wonder what their reasons are for not updating the Galaxy S, obviously it's not platform limitations since the Nexus S got it, shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
(BTW I have a Nexus S but I'm pissed for Samsung's attitude!)

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shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .
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Things is who are they going to lose customers to? HTC and Motorola phones from early-mid 2010 aren't going to get it either. The answer for updates is to get a Nexus phone from...oops.
The whole landscape of branded devices sucks not just Samsung, but I guess 'the grass is always greener' and people will just move to another manufacturer with little or no research into the facts of whether they are actually better for updates or not. If we take a look:
Moto announced a list of devices...not even the Atrix dual-core phone released in early 2011 was included, although it may be added. Anything from 2010 you can probably forget it.
On the HTC side the phone that came out at the same time as the SGS, at least around here, was the Desire. They had a heck of a time getting gingerbread to run on that apparently, ICS is probably out of the question, so no improvement there.
Basically anywhere I look only phones released within the last year are getting ICS officially. The grass isn't always greener, although I suspect many will jump over the fence without taking a very close look. Again the only real answer is a Nexus, unfortunately this iteration is a bit disappointing so myself I'm going to try and hold out for the next one although I admit at this point a year seems very far away.

and think of it from a business POV st's not good business practice to have complete support for an old platform, I mean look at MS the ONLY reason they still support XP is because of businesses, though that's slipping away furthermore 2 year contracts are common place for phones nowadays due to most being smartphone related so people who own the SGS back in 2010 are now due for an upgrade anyway so it won't bother the main bulk of consumers.
Personally I'm planning on waiting it out for the SGSIII so regardless the i9000 gets it for most is irrelevant.

Not a surprise for me and I don’t care what Sammy is doing.
Long live CM9

Well the thing is not other do... the thing is Galaxy S is still with a shi#y firmware after all this time. Not even on its "death" there is not a stock rom to make it perform as it should. Cmon' take a look at CM7... now imagine a Samsung built ROM based on it, even with all that crappy TouchWiz.. great camera, 720p recording, great battery life, fast as light.
Now... how can I buy another phone from them, knowing that maybe it will never work as it should. When SGS was released everybody said how fast it is, king of the hill... wth, it was crawling... Unfortunately, Samsung has Gorilla glass, has Amoled, low prices.... HTC has gread build quality, no Gorilla, no low prices, high performance....

Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.

Samsung forgot his smart baby snif
Cyano is here, fortunatly, to give GS1 users a good Ics experience

Samsung lost me as a customer if they choose not to update the SGS. I've already said I'll never buy a Samsung phone in the past because of their lack of support and lack of timely updates, but this now goes to anything Samsung.
I have a Samsung laptop and a Samsung TV, both of which I'll be replacing with a newer model in the coming weeks, but now those replacements will not be Samsung models.
I wouldn't be upset if there was a hardware compatibility issue like lack of memory, but there isn't.
It's perfectly capable. As for this 18 month thing, fine. Let them use that. But my i9000m only has 2.3.3 while the rest of the world has 2.3.6. They stopped updating my phone a long time ago, so they didn't even give me 18 months since they stopped me at 2.3.3 with all it's problems.
HTC even gave some of their older phones gingerbread by scaling down HTC sense to accommodate hardware limitations. Yet Samsung won't with no limitations for ICS.
The Galaxy Nexus was a phone I was thinking about, but no longer. I'm not going to line Samsungs pockets anymore. I'll wait to do my upgrade to the Next Nexus that hopefully will be made by a different manufacturer.
Samsung screwed their update processes with the million incarnations of our phones. Updates are too hard and lengthy for them to complete because of this, so they are taking the easy way out.
Samsungs war with Apple? They just sent a lot of SGS owners their way. At least you know your phone well always get updates provided the hardware is capable, even if they have to scale it down like they did on the 3GS.
I for one will never buy Apple, but count me in the camp of never buying Samsung again too if I don't get ICS officially from them.
My apologies for my rant.
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Here i come apple, samsung made me to. 3GS is older than sgs and it runs iOS5 from this year. Something android phones can just dream on.

I agree with you Greeced.
The SGS has been well maintained to date.
But the samsung's update policy is just catastrophic.
In some countries, people don't even have an official gingerbread update trough Kies.
Samsung sold millions of SGS in the world (the device is still available in most countries). Their policy is unacceptable. And it's too easy to blame the operators.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus phone (regardless of the manufacturer) because they are always good phones and it's a guarantee to have a long-term support.

To everyone that says "x company will lose sales", while that may be true, how many of the millions sold are used by people who have knowledge or interest in the latest android? Many buy the phone and enjoy it and use it, and just don't care or aren't particularly bothered by the update pattern.

What I find amazing is that the Galaxy S Plus isn't even on the list and that's what, 6 months old?

zbal said:
Very disappointed by Samsung.
This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.
The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force
people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)
Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.
Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.
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I believe that is the mentality that they want the market to have...mission complete.

after galaxy note you will buy any Samsung mobile phone?

after galaxy note you will buy any Samsung mobile phone?

Seeing how the note is my third Sammy, probably. Not.a fan of Samsung's plastic choices but hardware wise, I like them.

depends on whats available at the time

My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.

Yes I will - Note II / Note Plus

Samsung has always managed to appeal to my design sense and build pretty neat hardware into their phones. I've had a D900, U600, (LG KU990 in between here) Omnia II, SGS and now the Note. The D900 was a fantastic looking, robust little phone which I still have, and the U600 was pretty much the same but with a redesign and a spec bump so I had that as well. Omnia II was my first taste of smartphones and I loved it. Once Android took off in a big way, I hopped on and haven't been disappointed since.
The Note is great. Beautiful screen, massive battery and runs like butter. The new HTC OneX looks cool and comes pretty close to ticking all my boxes but the S-Pen was the clincher. I scribble faster than I can type and I have a screen of S-Memos to remind me about everything from shopping lists to memos to breathing in and out.
The delays on ICS have been a downer but GB still runs great and as a device, still goes on well. Samsung is making up for it by giving us a premium suite of features which weren't even on the radar when I bought the device so I'm not going to complain. So... Note 2? Yes please.

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My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Hehe, and most things apples patches do is stop jailbreak..
Not to big things in the small ones they send out, and 4s still have crappy battery even if they say they working on it..
Not a iPhone hater here tho, gf have one and even my daughter as they are very simple and child friendly..
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My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Samsung is great compared to Dell. The Note has only been out 5-6 months. Took Dell over a year to update the Streak5 from 1.5 to 1.6 (Froyo). I don't think there has been a GB update for Dell Streak5. If Sammy is faster than a year, they're doing great! Which other Android manufacturer updates more quickly?
Besides, GB is working quite well IMHO. And the Note is well made and everything seems to work! I'm in for the next round.
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4Nde said:
My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Of course this is your personal opinion and it´s absolutely okay to think like this...but people have to face the fact, that ICS isn´t THE invention of the century, it is more like a small update that makes it possible to install the apex launcher (and some small more stuff ). And beside this, I do not know any manufacturer that provides faster updates to their users (ignoring apple for a moment).
The Note as well as the S2 are two MONSTERS of devices! An incredible camera, snappy/fast/smooth, resistant and even with GB they are still the headliners on the market. Ignoring some apps, there´s nothing to miss atm, it is more about nerdy minds to always be on the newest trip. And: We bought a GB device, so they don´t owe us anything.
BTW: Just check the S2 user com...e.g. the quality of the cam got worse with ICS...and as a matter of fact I do not know ANY smartphone with ICS that beats the S2/Note cam quality atm. I want a device that is WORKING and that delivers some functions which I can really USE within the day. And that´s exactely what samsung delivers imao...
So in my case: Yes, i will stay with samsung...

after my current note, next one will be maybe galaxy s3, if it wont give me satisfaction,will be waiting for note 2 : )

Samsung are making good handsets lately,but I have learnt one important lesson here with my first Samsung Phone ever:Get your bread direct from the Bakery !!.
Meaning,it is always a wise decision to get your phone from a dedicated manufavturer,not from some company who beeing busy in making washing machines,TVs cameras etc..have no time left to support certain devices.

last three devices are all samsung. I have htc work phone which i hate.
I want a phone that works and will last long enough for me to sell on fleabay. I couldnt care less regarding the operating system i.e GB and ics, aint the end of the world at all,
Take a look at Asus and the transformer, they update faster than anyone great huh, hmmm shame about the hardware. As they say you can polish a turd but its still a turd.
Give me solid hardware at a good price, and thats what samsung nail every time

Bring on note2... Can't wait til October... Bring it...
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And whats wrong with HD2,I have been using it for the last 3 years now and is still working like a Swiss watch,I have flashed at different times many OSs on it,just changed back to WM from Miui's ICS,sorry if I offend anyone here but being a 78 years old veteran I bear a special affection at my heart for the WM.
Damn,my wife's Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G is still on Honeycomb 3,1 while my son's have been updated to 3,2 months ago!! and when side by side you can easily observe how inferior the former is in comparison.

I had a couple of Htc smartphones, then an S2, and now the Note. Hated the Htc's, loved the S2, and like the Note even more. So my next phone will probably be the Note 2, unless somebody comes up with something like the Note but better.
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Meh...maybe...
The thing is, the Note is a beautiful phone and i would have bought it no matter what company made it. This is my first sammy phone and it could be the first of many or the last one. As long as the community on xda is strong and the phone itself is amazing i couldn't care less about the company. I have to say though, Samsung has come pretty dam far in the last few years, its unbelievable.

For me, it really depends on how Samsung handles this whole broken-kernels-that-destroy-eMMC fiasco.
If Samsung remains silent on the issue, the Note will likely be my last Samsung device. If another broken kernel manages to get through testing and is officially released (see the SHW-M250S/K/L sources), the Note is guaranteed to be my last Samsung device.
While I don't like their hardware design, nor do I like their historical track record, Sony's recent history of developer support has been highly commendable, and if Samsung keeps blowing it with regards to their total noncooperation with developers, I'll be making the jump with my next device.

Yes, and to be more specific, i will wait for Note 2. I was a HTC fan but, lately, it did not impress me. HTC ONE x , because it uses tegra 3, it is a flop, in my opinion, inefficent and power hungry CPU, no were near Exinox refinament. Samsung offers something witch is crucial for me.. good low light video camera (no ghosting) and USB OTG.

Samsung make good phones overall. Nobody makes a perfect device. Just levels of tolerances that one accepts. I have had 2 other Samsung phones and they were excellent, really excellent. Tbh whilst I want ICS I couldn't care that much since ginger bread is stable. And I prefer stable over everything else.

I probably won't be getting another phone until my Note dies - I love it that much. If Sammy are still top of the heap by then I will probably go the Sammy route again.
I also don't really understand the whole 'Samsung lied to us stuff'. I've struggled to find anything from Samsung that said they'd deliver ICS on the Note by the end of Q1 2012, everything I've found is hearsay or relating to Samsung devices generally (i.e. We'll start rolling out ICS updates in Q1.)
Well they haven't lied. The SGS2, the phone with the largest user-base was updated first... And the phone with all the extra complications of a screen approx four times the size and with a stylus, etc has been delayed. Not a surprise to me - only to those who bought a device with one OS version thinking it would have another IMMEDIATELY!
Its not even like ICS is much better... I flashed ICS Stunner and within a week I was back on stock GB. ICS offers a few good touches (bookmark sync, slightly better UI performance, data usage limits, face unlock (which p***ed me off mo end), etc) but basically its still Android and we've already got that.