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custom roms?

if the x10i is rooted, does that give it the possibility to run a custom rom? or a higher version of the android os? if so where can i find all those roms, they seem to be well hidden, even an easy explaination or a simple how to seems to be limited. except for here since i got my device rotted in like a minute so any help regarding a rooted device as to what one can do with it and some cleus about roms and such.
much thanks.
john

johanneseinde said:
if the x10i is rooted, does that give it the possibility to run a custom rom? or a higher version of the android os? if so where can i find all those roms, they seem to be well hidden, even an easy explaination or a simple how to seems to be limited. except for here since i got my device rotted in like a minute so any help regarding a rooted device as to what one can do with it and some cleus about roms and such.
much thanks.
john
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The current root is not the full root like the other devices. I believe the kernel still needs to be accessed in order for us to be able to install Custom Roms.
Devs... correct me if I'm wrong.

custom roms not yet possible.. devs working on bootloader.
thread closed..

HTC Wildfire - updation to 2.2 Froyo

Hello All,
I am using HTC wildfire for past one month and I just love this phone. All the apps which are present and downladable are really exciting !!
Here I would llike to know few things :
1. I am getting messages of upadate 2.2 available in my phone. I do have a Wi-fi connection to do it (Wi-fi needed info I got from the mobile shop person initially)
My question is If i go for the update taking initiative through the updates message
will there be any problem (like phone may not work and the featues might not work etc etc after updation ?)
2. If anythig happens is it possible to bring back to 2.1
3. Will updation cause any other trouble (may be there will be anything which am not sure or thinking off now ?) ?
Can you guys helps me out by answering the questions . I would like to go for 2.2 as I have heard it is awesome than 2.1 but want to make sure nothing happens to the phone.
Please help.
Am from Bangalore India (if location matters for an update !!! )

This is an official update, so there will be no problems. Go go go
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk

vassileff said:
This is an official update, so there will be no problems. Go go go
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk
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Hi Vassie,
Thanks for the reply - but if i go for the update is there anything else to do other than 'pressing the update button' in the message ? It will install 2.2 itself ?

Remember, you will lose the ability to root, install root apps, custom ROMs etc. However, looking at your post, it seems it is not a priority, so you might as well go for it.
* Updating should not bring any trouble, since, after all, it is an official ROM, and would have been thoroughly tested before release.
* That said it is recommended to both, restore factory settings and format SD card after the update. It is said to slow down the phone if you do not do so.
* Getting back to 2.1 from 2.2 is possible, but, it is a very long process and potentially risky, and, in general, not recommended.
As for the update, I am pretty sure it will install itself. Never attempted it personally, but, I am sure it will be a "Next - Next" type of procedure.

3xeno said:
Remember, you will lose the ability to root, install root apps, custom ROMs etc. However, looking at your post, it seems it is not a priority, so you might as well go for it.
* Updating should not bring any trouble, since, after all, it is an official ROM, and would have been thoroughly tested before release.
* That said it is recommended to both, restore factory settings and format SD card after the update. It is said to slow down the phone if you do not do so.
* Getting back to 2.1 from 2.2 is possible, but, it is a very long process and potentially risky, and, in general, not recommended.
As for the update, I am pretty sure it will install itself. Never attempted it personally, but, I am sure it will be a "Next - Next" type of procedure.
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Hi,
Thanks for the valuable comments....
As you have told about rooting - I would like to know what is it (just for information if you dont mind ! any special advantages ?) Also in froyo is it possible to install apps and games in SD card ?

Rooting - Process to access the root of your device. Basically allows a lot more to be done with your device, like installing root only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU etc. Apart from that, it allows overclocking and underclocking your CPU, installation of Custom ROMs (Android 2.3.2 is available unofficially) etc.
For Apps2SD, Froyo supports it natively, but, not all apps and games can be moved using that. Only supported ones. Rooting allows you to install additional Apps2SD Scripts like DTApps2SD which allows install to SD irrespective of compatibility.

3xeno said:
Rooting - Process to access the root of your device. Basically allows a lot more to be done with your device, like installing root only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU etc. Apart from that, it allows overclocking and underclocking your CPU, installation of Custom ROMs (Android 2.3.2 is available unofficially) etc.
For Apps2SD, Froyo supports it natively, but, not all apps and games can be moved using that. Only supported ones. Rooting allows you to install additional Apps2SD Scripts like DTApps2SD which allows install to SD irrespective of compatibility.
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Great info. OMG u mean ginger bread in Wildfire (2.3.2 !!!) Please pardon me if am bugging u asking more questions .
For 2.2 am getting an update message - how you install custom roms ?
I guess that will be your own risk !

Yes, it is at your own risk. However, it is pretty safe. There are exit routes available if something does go wrong, also, if you take a backup before installing it, getting back to it is a snap.
Refer this guide, it will tell you all about the process of rooting and installing Custom ROMs.
[GUIDE] Turkeys' Ultimate Guide to Root Wildfire v42.1.2 (Easy & Safe!)
Apart from that, here is CM7 (Gingerbread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918072
Lastly, CM7 is still in Pre-Alpha stage, so, it may be a bit buggy. Also, it does not contain HTC's Sense Interface. So, if you prefer that, you can go for Sense Based Custom ROM's like WildPuzzle and SunAabh. They look and feel similar to the official ROM, but, offer many extras. (But they are based on Android 2.2.1)

3xeno, u r a store-house of info! thanx.
can u pls put a link for downloading wildpuzzle_v8.0.11 for htc wildfire?

vishbin said:
3xeno, u r a store-house of info! thanx.
can u pls put a link for downloading wildpuzzle_v8.0.11 for htc wildfire?
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It is not recommended to use WildPuzzle v8 since it is based on the Chinese Froyo, and, has caused many types of problems like location not working, contacts name not displaying not properly and so on. It is recommended to use the latest WildPuzzle 2.2.1 v0.x if you wish to use WildPuzzle, and that is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
Still, FYI, Wildpuzzle 8.0.11 is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761927

[Q] to root or not to root?

just got my tf101 and updated to 3.1 and all stock. Now what is the benefit of rooting? What does it gives you that stock cant.

I'm curious about this as well.

Freezing apps
Backing up aps
Removing bloatware with superuser
Many more advantages as well
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Rooting isn't for everyone, really. Many users will derive as much pleasure from stock TFs just because that what they feel comfortable with and that's cool.
Rooting opens up many options to the user experience. Many apps (Titanium Backup is one....and probably a must have) will not install without root. You'll find, after time, many great custom ROMs that add functions and user interface enhancements you could onl get rooted. Overclocking? Can't leave that out! Being able to overclock your TF will speed up your machine and provide much staisfaction. Games? Way better. Some of the genius devs here can tweak so many parts of the TF and android experience ... you'll wonder why you didn't root earlier.
Finally, you'll learn about android and learning is really what it's all about.

Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?

How is access to root handled in Android? Can any app at any time use root (that would be quite dangerous) or does it have to ask for permission (password or pin maybe?) like sudo in Linux?

It prompts for SU/Root access and you can either allow, deny or always allow.

turbulent28 said:
Does the overclocking help on things like laggy keyboards?
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Yes it could, but is not the main reason.
Most of the time it depends on the rom that you have installed, from my personal experience.
Overclocking improve functionality generally speaking, so it could help for some lag issue, but I would say that mainly depends on the rom and, precisely, if you have lots of bloadware installed, or how many app are you running at the same time and so on....

I would like to come up with some really awesome justified reason why I rooted/custom rom/overclocked but to be honest the real answer is... Because I could

What is Asus's status on rooting? I take it they wash their hands of it and basically will say it invalidates your warranty. But I feel they should at least aknowledge it as OK if you are able to flash back to stock and confirm any problems exist with the stock rom. But I guess that's just not how it works unfortunately?

is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly

pretty sure as long as you create a backup you can go back to stock without any evidence of rooting...

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is it possible to root from 3.1 ? directly
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Yes, I just did this yesterday. The instructions are in the "[ROM] Transformer 3.1 pure root" in the developers section. It only took about 10 minutes. Fairly straight forward. I did not lose any apps or data. Make sure to load the Asus Sync and USB drivers from Asus on your computer before you start. Several folks ran into issues with that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125714
Mostly I've been able to backup using Titanium Backup. I was hoping to be able to map shares using cifs, but sadly I can't get it to work.

Can Mac users go through the root process?

I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.

nv88 said:
I don't think the above process works from a Mac. Sorry.
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Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?

Dorkington said:
Is there any root process that will work for Mac users?
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It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit

dasbooter said:
It does work in linux with some adaptation of the commands in the scripts and you do not require any installation of drivers from asus. Most distros can easily be used with the adb dev kit
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Ok, what about using Parallels/Boot Camp? I haven't booted into Windows in a while, but I should still be able to.

I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.

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I have rooted every phone I had, but that was to replace roms and remove bloatware that was unremovable. With 3.1 I don't feel the need to do either. Since the apps install in the storage partition they are not flooding a small partition like on the phone. I would have a real hard time filling the 32 GB with apps. Second, I really don't see anything in the available alternative roms that I want. What are other's finding in 3rd party roms? Overclocking might be nice, but not at the cost of either reliability or battery life.
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I agree with everything you've said here. The only reason I rooted 3.1 was to install titanium backup. I've tried a couple 3.1 custom roms, but there was nothing really exciting about them that made them really standout from stock.

[Q] First time Tablet/Android buyer.

Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.

Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!

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Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.

A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.

just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw

midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?

I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?

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deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.

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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.

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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??

deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.

deeselcyde said:
What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.

Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.

deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.

***Samsung Tab4***

I have Samsung tablet 4
4.4.2 KERNAL
Acheron_Rom_2.3..5.APAI Build
I absolutely love it. The apps I have for it are incredible. Still playing with them to figure them out but when I reboot , I see no changes. I may be doing something wrong?
Besides that, i would like to know MORE about HOW TO and details about the differemce about rooting VS. installing ROM.
Can I root my device differently? Suggestions?
Can i download apps that make the device act/perform differently?
Where/How can i find this inormation?

Juzzzinlbs said:
I have Samsung tablet 4
4.4.2 KERNAL
Acheron_Rom_2.3..5.APAI Build
I absolutely love it. The apps I have for it are incredible. Still playing with them to figure them out but when I reboot , I see no changes. I may be doing something wrong?
Besides that, i would like to know MORE about HOW TO and details about the differemce about rooting VS. installing ROM.
Can I root my device differently? Suggestions?
Can i download apps that make the device act/perform differently?
Where/How can i find this inormation?
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Having root access is kind of same as having adminstrator rights in windows.
Installing Rom is intalling whole new firmware.
I'm no sure what you mean by rooting differently if you mean it like more ways to get same result then yes.
If you mean more ways and different results for each of them then no.
You can download app like kernel adiutor to change kernel settings. ( You should be able to find lot of this stuff from forum or google.
You can search like "why to root" or "must have apps for rooted phones" and stuff like that to get started. Best way to learn is if you find something interesting, test it.
Though for this device there is mainly jsut stock stuff so there isn't so much to do or change.