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Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
Hello,
First off welcome to Android, second, get the fire suit on for the "wrong forum" flames.
What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
Not a *ton* but there is Tether and other goodies that you can start using.
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
Yes to 1st, and there will be lost data when you unlock the bootloader.. if you unocked the bootloader, and then used the phone for a week or so, THEN flashed this addon pack, then no data loss.- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
Android Debug Bridge... its used for debugging. lol....- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
No, the Nandroid backup will be an option AFTER you unlock the BL and install Amon_RA's Recovery image..
Good luck man!!
thanks for the reply.
I'm trying to gather as much as i can before i get the phone in my hands. Maybe because i want to start right away when i get hold of the phone lol You have enlightened me on many points.
I was just wondering also,
I've read about apps such as Nexus Torch and SetCPU which require rooting. Are these apps aquired simply after I unlock + root from the market place? because i read about reinstall su and similar.
Sorry for the noobiness, as i've mentioned im a android beginner and not too familiar with the terms used.
I just want to install some cool apps and convert those iphone users......(my gf )
No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
SystmDcln said:
No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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I'm doing the same thing as this guy. I'm super hardcore about customization so I have no doubt that I'll root my phone eventually but not quite yet. Things are still a bit too new and right now there really aren't that many reasons to root (outside of tethering support IMO). If you can live without tethering for a month, then you should wait to root.
welcome
addon packs do a few things to your phone. the biggest things, i think, are the busybox and the dropbear installations, and the tethering apps. some modders also like to "optimize" android too. whether or not it actually works, i can't personally tell, but i take their word for it.
busybox will allow you to run some common linux commands on your android (with a terminal app i guess...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox
dropbear is an ssh server so that you can access the command line (and push files to your android) from your computer
tethering means share your cell connection with a computer to give your computer internet. i've used it in many airports, and it's sweet.
like the other dude said, the initial root will require a data wipe, but not the addons. i'm not sure if it's true for EVERY rom (i think it is) but when you first install a whole rom a wipe is required, but when upgrading to a newer version of the same rom no wipe is required. if you like to keep your sms and mms's then it's good to have some of these linux tools so you can move and replace the sms and mms databases manually.
adb is android debugging bridge. it's a part of the android sdk (software development kit) that google gives out for free and is meant to develop apps. with it you can plug your phone into your comp via USB and run all sorts of commands on it from your computer. droidexplorer is basically a GUI for the adb commands, so with ADB you can do all that droidexplorer can do. http://de.codeplex.com/
nandroid is kind of like "system restore" for android. you need to root the phone, then flash Amon_RA's recovery thingy (in one of the threads). once you're in recovery, you can create a nandroid backup (kind of like an image of your current android phone) that you can restore later. then restoring it is as simple as going back into recovery and clicking "restore".
m00moo said:
Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
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wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
If I buy an app (I'm thinking of the Exchange Calendar sync app) and then end up rooting and installing another ROM (say the EU ROM if it has multitouch) will I be able to get my purchased apps working again - or do you have to rebuy them?
If you buy an app it'll always show as purchased on the marketplace so you can redownload it - all the ones I bought on my G1 were still available when I setup the N1 for example.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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Wait to root. Right now it's still too unknown on the "ins and outs" of this phone. When I first started rooting on my G1 and MyTouch I wiped a lot while learning things about it. Research while you wait. An OTA is supposed to come out to fix some bugs, and nobody has released any ROMs anyways. And on paid apps, Google Checkout keeps a record of what you purchase, no matter how many times you wipe Market will always have them listed in the "Downloads" Tab as "Purchased" to re-download at no charge.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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that happened to me. i think it has to do with the fact that i rooted and turned on my phone before i even put my simcard in. i opened the market and couldn't see "top paid apps" (though i could still search for apps and paid ones would show up). after i turned it off, then put my sim card in and turned it back on, no dice, still no top paid apps.
i reflashed nexusone-superboot-1.1.img with my sim card in this time (can't remember if i wiped. i think it required a wipe) and i turned it on with my sim and voila. paid apps. so it's definitely fixable if you run into that problem.
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
Orangeandblue302 said:
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
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I use SetCPU to underclock the device in sleep mode.
I also underclock when I am not going to be using it for long periods.
Saves battery life.
true true, didnt think of it like that. most people want to overclock, i shouldnt assume. you know what happens when you assume lol.
It is a bit of a travesty to do it to this device. Its like putting a Beetle engine in a Porsche.
I can't always be near a charger, and until I can get a bigger battery that will give me more than seven hours, this is the solution.
this being my first android device i have spent hours on end on theses boards and on wiki's learning as much as i can about the phone and the platform... many of these basic questions that he asked i also had not 24 hours ago haha...
that being said, i think a lot of people are moving over to android so what if a thread got started that would answer basic questions that typically ever new user is going to have? ive yet to find a straight forward answer for half of the crap i have tried to find out and having it all in 1 place would be quite beneficial for people switching over... this could be moderated highly to keep it clean and in order?
a nice, straightforward, helpful community would be a nice touch to overtake some iphone shares
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
yamanote said:
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
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Sorry I am not really from Hong Kong lol I'm in fact from UK and Chinese. My Phone will be arriving early next week so whilst waiting, I am trying to learn as much as possible in case i damage my phone being a noob. lol
I agree with JHaste, i think due to the N1 and the upcoming HTC andoird devices. Alot of people will be moving over to Android in the coming 2-3 months. The questions i asked will be asked over and over and some kind of wiki,faq or android bible will be great. If anybody had the time and knowledge of basic rooting, unlocking and flashing could do such a thing it will be greatly appreciated
m00moo said:
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
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i think cyanogen's mod includes a backup app (titanium backup or somethin)...you'd be able to save all your data before you wiped it clean (but then you'd need the same backup app to restore it)
Hey all,
I posted this same thread on another forum but it's not as active as this one so I'm posting here for better results. Anyways, I did a hell of a lot of googling on all sorts of random things, and after hours and hours of trial and error just to get my damn Windows 7 to recognize the Hero, I was well on my way to rooting. After I had rooted my phone, I, by default, ended up going with the MoDaCo 2.0 ROM core update. I just recently downloaded the extension update, and basically I'm just kinda sitting here, thinking to myself, "Now what?" I guess my real question is, what exactly have I done? I understand that rooting the phone basically puts in a free-to-use-however-you-want sort of sense, and the custom ROM gives you better performance and more to offer than the factory Hero ROM, but seeing so many posts of all sorts of people doing this and that and the other thing on their phones, I feel like I'm missing out on the what-to-do-next memo. If anyone has any good advice for a new Android user to look forward and almost like a guide on Things You Should Do After You've Rooted and Installed MoDaCo 2.0, I'd appreciate it.
As for apps. I currently have, use, and enjoy these (any other recommendations?):
Ak Notepad
Astro File Manager
Spare Parts
TasKiller
Twidroid
Also looking for the consolidated power settings widget I see randomly everywhere. It's so bad ass looking and convenient but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I know Beautiful Widgets had it but HTC sent them a C&D so it got taken down.
Another thing. This stuff I read about being able to get apps that aren't normally in Market after you root, what's up with that? And which ones of these are must-haves?
Haha I apologize beforehand for this thread having so many questions but to consolidate it all to one question, what exactly should I do now that my phone is rooted and loaded with custom rom 2.0, and what are some must-haves and must-knows for a noob looking to eventually become a pro at this stuff?
I just rooted my phone a while ago
So far I've loaded fresh ROM 1.1
found some sweet themes to change stuff
I recommend you go to this website: www[.]geekfor.me (no .com) and check out the pre-kitchen v 0.2. it allows you to easily run command line stuff from a really really easy to use GUI
he's also got a few themes and stuff to download
the customization is about the most useful thing I've found from root. apparently there are some good tethering apps and stuff, but I've never really gotten them to work
Thanks I appreciate that. I'm gonna check some of that stuff out. Can anyone guide me in the direction of a good beginner's guide to ap2sd and do I need to install a radio update or something after I've installed the ROM? Or is that just for GSM? I'm having trouble finding a good collection of beginners guides on google for this stuff so I apologize if all my questions can be answered by other threads in this forum.
smackinisaiah said:
Hey all,
I posted this same thread on another forum but it's not as active as this one so I'm posting here for better results. Anyways, I did a hell of a lot of googling on all sorts of random things, and after hours and hours of trial and error just to get my damn Windows 7 to recognize the Hero, I was well on my way to rooting. After I had rooted my phone, I, by default, ended up going with the MoDaCo 2.0 ROM core update. I just recently downloaded the extension update, and basically I'm just kinda sitting here, thinking to myself, "Now what?" I guess my real question is, what exactly have I done? I understand that rooting the phone basically puts in a free-to-use-however-you-want sort of sense, and the custom ROM gives you better performance and more to offer than the factory Hero ROM, but seeing so many posts of all sorts of people doing this and that and the other thing on their phones, I feel like I'm missing out on the what-to-do-next memo. If anyone has any good advice for a new Android user to look forward and almost like a guide on Things You Should Do After You've Rooted and Installed MoDaCo 2.0, I'd appreciate it.
As for apps. I currently have, use, and enjoy these (any other recommendations?):
Ak Notepad
Astro File Manager
Spare Parts
TasKillerTwidroid
Also looking for the consolidated power settings widget I see randomly everywhere. It's so bad ass looking and convenient but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I know Beautiful Widgets had it but HTC sent them a C&D so it got taken down.
Another thing. This stuff I read about being able to get apps that aren't normally in Market after you root, what's up with that? And which ones of these are must-haves?
Haha I apologize beforehand for this thread having so many questions but to consolidate it all to one question, what exactly should I do now that my phone is rooted and loaded with custom rom 2.0, and what are some must-haves and must-knows for a noob looking to eventually become a pro at this stuff?
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
First I would say read everyhting you can in this forum. I have learned a lot about my phone just by reading the treads.
second and I cant belive no one said this yet. DO NOT I repeat DO NOT do anything with the radio. as far as I know flashing the radio is the only way found so far to totally brick this phone.
apps2sd is automatic with modaco's rom as long as your sd card is partitioned for it.
must have apps are really something that is subjective. I just googled best android apps and got a ton of info to go through and found a few apps that I really wanted or thaat I just thought where cool.
good luck and happy moding
It seems like most of the threads about rooting are from back in July. I want to root my phone. I'm pretty sure I should use the Cyanogen ROM. Should I use stable? Experimental? Nightly? I want 2.2 for sure, beyond that I don't really know what the differences are I should be looking for.
So, using Windows 7 what should I do starting from square one, and in which order should I do it?
I would like the ability to un-root and return to stock, if possible.
Thanks for any helpful replies.
911jason said:
It seems like most of the threads about rooting are from back in July. I want to root my phone. I'm pretty sure I should use the Cyanogen ROM. Should I use stable? Experimental? Nightly? I want 2.2 for sure, beyond that I don't really know what the differences are I should be looking for.
So, using Windows 7 what should I do starting from square one, and in which order should I do it?
I would like the ability to un-root and return to stock, if possible.
Thanks for any helpful replies.
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Thank you posting this in the appropriate sub-forum. Here is a link in the Development sub-forum that explains all of the steps you need to root your Aria and prepare for loading custom ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788737
As for a Froyo 2.2 ROM, you have CM 6.0/6.1 or Liberated FRxx Series. The Liberated FR series has the familiar HTC Sense interface that came on your Aria, but it is built on Froyo 2.2 instead 2.1.
Regards,
Tom
Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
911jason said:
Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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you know what I did when i rooted my phone? I watched a youtube video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjgg__m-KHc
911jason said:
Thanks for the reply Tom, although I'm still hesitant. It seems like every thread I've seen with instructions has quite a few posts afterwards from people having issues. The instructions are also usually about as clear as mud. It seems like the people writing the instructions are writing them for people who have rooted in the past, because they use terminology that a new user like me doesn't understand. I have lots of computer experience (used to design websites in the 90's with Notepad - ha!) but I have zero Linux or smartphone experience, so maybe I should just forget the root thing. It's just that I love Photoshop and would really like to be able to use those skills to customize the look of my phone much more than I currently can.
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Well 922jason, I think we are both going through exactly the same thing. I bought my Aria already rooted by the seller, and so I missed out on the learning curve of rooting and the terminologies involved. Think I'm more of a learn it on the job kinda fella and now I have to read all these texts.
Anyway, I just did the most daring thing today. I was running Liberated Aria R12 few hours ago and decided to get hands on. Downloaded FroYo Cyanogen, made nandroid backup (yes it's such a noob thing) & flashed (sounds fancy) Cyanogen. Anyways, I found out that it didn't suit me at all because:
1. I can't find my ALL my installed and backup-ed Apps anywhere
2. The familiar Market isn't anywhere in the phone
3. ALL my contact list are gone
4. I couldn't find any application that lets me access my SD card
5. There were wayyyyy too many options to customize in Cyanogen that gave me a headache instead
Now I realize that the pros would bombard me with comments and advice to sort out those problems, and they certainly would know better what to do than me. But as a new user to Android in the smartphone era, I'm just plain confused.
So I restored the nandroid backup and I'm back to the state before I installed Cyanogen
BUT, I'm not done yet. I'm now downloading Liberated Aria Froyo FR007 and want to try it out. Just don't chicken out at getting hands on with this cos I wanna get the most out of my Aria. So good luck!
The people at XDA are really helpful and you shouldn't worry about getting lost. Thanks guys!
Thanks for the link Zervic, I'll check that out.
I also appreciate the info Emigre, glad to know I'm not the only noob on XDA! =)
Root yet or still having problems?
Noz85 said:
Root yet or still having problems?
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I'm waffling big-time!
I just read through the huge CM6 thread and seeing all those different problems posted gives me the willies. Going to read through the Sense/Froyo thread next and see if it looks any safer.
Dont worry so much with any of the roms here theres a very small chance to brick your phone. If you like how your phone looks now then Liberated is for you. If you want to customize everything them go with CM6.
Your choice but dont over think it lol.
if you need help just ask.
Hey man, I really appreciate that... I like the idea of all the customization possible with CM6, but all of the bug reports in that thread scare the crap out of me.
Thats mostly for the nightly roms. CM6 and CM6.1 RC1 are very stable, I didn't have any major problems with them. Just make sure to fallow all the instructions when installing to avoid any problems with any roms you chose.
Noz85 said:
Thats mostly for the nightly roms. CM6 and CM6.1 RC1 are very stable, I didn't have any major problems with them. Just make sure to fallow all the instructions when installing to avoid any problems with any roms you chose.
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I would agree. Both CM 6.0.2.1 and CM 6.1 RC1 have been very reliable for me. As has been mentioned in other posts, most of the 'bugs' are about the nightly CM builds which are truly 'experimental'.
There are a few caveats with CM 6.x that you won't run into with the Liberated ROMs. Number 1 is read the wiki instructions completely. Once you flash the CM 6 you then need to flash the Google Apps so that you can access the Android Market. Number 2 is that the CM 6.x cannot read any contacts you have stored on your SIM card, so you should export them from the SIM and sync them with your GMAIL account.
Regards,
Tom
Okay, anything I need to set aside for doing this? Will the stock 2gb SD card work fine? How long does the process take, from start to finish?
i too am on the learning curve of all this rooting and whatnot. before i got the aria just this last wednesday i had the hero cdma with Alltel. which apparently was a B* to root and whatnot, cuz alltel isnt popular for devs ive noticed. when i first got the hero it was really new for alltel, and there were people working on the root process. I too get pretty nervous when i read stuff that i could do to my phone but could brick it.. but then i found out about the recovery mode and nandroid backups.. and OMFG they help a lot when you change a setting to be incompatible and get a boot loop. that was VERY often with that hero.
When i found out that i was getting the Aria cuz of the Alltel to AT&T transition, i kept an eye on the aria threads. day one of getting the aria, i plugged it right in running unrevoked and it went real quick, however thats just the root process of course. you havent installed any roms at this point, just got the privileges.
thats when you boot the recovery mode, do that nandroid backup and copy that backup somewhere safe on a computer or something.. then of course after that then you follow the steps for whichever rom you choose that you want.
IMO- i prefer the Liberated series, i had my chance with CM6.1 on the hero and enjoyed it a bit, but got tired of it and went to the Fresh Hero ROM. so since i knew i liked fresh hero, i knew i wanted liberated series, and most especially because its 2.2 FroYo with the HTC Sense UI (the "stock look" that was mentioned earlier)
and to answer your questions:
1. make sure you have the right usb drivers, youll know if you read the tutorials. the nandroid backup would be somewhere between 200-350MB so make sure you have enough free on the sd.
2.the stock 2gb will work just fine. in the future look into upgrading with a class 4 or class 6 speed MicroSD for even better performance.
3.once you get the drivers and software downloaded, the unrevoked root process takes probably around 5 minutes, if that.. it seemed really fast to me. the nandroid backup process will be fast if you dont have many apps installed now. should only take a few minutes as well. im guessing it takes me like 10-15 minutes sometimes cuz of apps and such, (sometimes i lose track of time). then after nandroid, the wipes are like instant, then flashing the rom, (like i said im bad with time sometimes) and i believe that takes about 5-10 minutes.
So it seems like after I root my phone, I should boot back into the stock ROM and download Titanium to back-up my apps and app data. Is this correct? I don't want to lose access to the apps I have purchased. Is that the best way?
the purchased apps you can obviously re-download, but yes. titanium backup is really useful for saving app/app-data. however, if needed, you can always nandroid the custom rom, restore your stock backup and pull info from that, then restore back to the custom.
joachim123 said:
the purchased apps you can obviously re-download
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I have found quite a few threads around the internet about people losing their paid apps after rooting and flashing a custom ROM. Wasn't sure if there was some step I needed to take to ensure that I can retrieve my paid apps. There aren't many, I've only had my phone for a few weeks, but still... I'm cheap!
1. You can use titanium to back up your apps, though that isn't 100% necessary because, as previously mentioned, you can re-download your purchased apps.
2. Once you get the ROM installed (if it happens to be cyanogenmod) you need to also install gapps, which includes the market app. If you don't flash the gapps package, obviously, there will be no market.
3. Keep in mind that if you install CM, there will be no more HTC Sync.
4. If you follow the directions in 1, the video i posted for you or 2, any of the threads that explain this process the possibility for you to brick your phone is slim to none. -- as attn1 said "If you manage to brick your phone with this ROM from there, you are a dumb ass of unimaginable proportions, and I absolve myself of any responsibility whatsoever. "
There were a few other things I wanted to mention but I gotta run...
oh haha, well as far as im concerned, the purchases should be saved in the google database as long as you use the same gmail account to log in to the phone. ive been fine every time. even from goin thru the transition of different cell providers and phones. there is an app that im not sure if its allowed to be posted but ill message a link to you. its helped a lot lately even tho i just found it out like two days ago.
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Oh that's just great... reminds me of the teases for "News at 11 - The critical info you need that could save your life"... meanwhile, it's 4pm, what do I do until 11 to stay alive?!?!
My sister has informed me I will be getting an a500 for Christmas. This will affect Since then I've been rescearching and learning everything I can about it. I know I will want it rooted, and stripped of all bloatware, but there's something I've heard mention of I can't seem to get a real answer to.
What's the difference between AOSP honeycomb and whatever acer's done to it? I know there are modifications, I just don't know what. This will affect what ROM I use, or if I use one (though that'll also be influenced by stability of ROMs - unless there's a super stable 3.2 I'll probably just stay rooted stock, unless there's something better than stock out there. I'd appriciate ROM suggestions.
Also, how do I go back to stock once I ROM? Haven't seen a clear answer to that either. Probably easy, but there are no ROMs available for my phone so that's not something I have much (if any) experience with.
In laymans terms, AOSP is just the basic android code before the manufactures get hold of it. By agreement, they have to release the code to the community.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes not so good. Depends. The good thing, is that it's pretty much free of anything the manufacturers may add to it.
The bad thing, is that sometimes the device drivers might not be so refined. It just depends on how "smart" the devs are that put together a rom.
But, the good thing, is that we have a choice to run whatever we want.
Acer hasn't done much to Honeycomb it is pretty vanilla so you already are running an AOSP version of Honeycomb. There is none of the heavy overlays like HTC Sense, Motorola's, or Samsungs overlays. Its easy to remove the bloatware after its rooted. Enjoy it, its a fun tablet.
Yea the only "Bloat" that acer really puts on it are some applications. Thinks like Acer Sync and stuff like that. Its not a huge deal, but I find that a lot of the custom ROMs are quicker and smoother, likely because of the overclocking.
Thanks for clearing that up guys. I'll probably just stick w/ rooted stock 3.2 for a while. I'm looking for the most stable and most functional experience I can get out of this thing.
Another question - is there any way to change the software buttons on the a500m I know there's a way the transformer can do it, but I can't find it for the a500. (Haven't scoured the web tho- on my god awful phone till the weekend)
the only actual downside to rooting at this point is that when i bought mine (last week) it came with 3.2.1 currently there are only 3.2 roms not sure what fixes to the os 3.2.1 introduced, but do to the rooting process currently available to the Iconia you will have to Flash a custom rom in order to get root (you have to flash back to 3.0.1 then go through the steps at which point your stock rom is gone)
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Another question - is there any way to change the software buttons on the a500m I know there's a way the transformer can do it, but I can't find it for the a500. (Haven't scoured the web tho- on my god awful phone till the weekend)
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You can change these by a couple of methods.
1. By applying a theme package. You can get info in the themes forum.
2. By changing the icons in the rom.zip before flashing.
All of this is covered in the themes forum. I believe the guy who does the honeylicous rom has a thread there covering this.
Note though, you have to be careful about doing this, as if you don't follow instructions, you can semi-brick your device. It's happened to a few n00bs.
Hint. If you install a launcher app, you'll get rid of that Google search and apps button at the top of the display. Also, there are a couple of apps, that will hide the launcher at the bottom, and you can make it reappear when needed. Nice for watching a full screen film. (but it uses resources)
Moscow Desire said:
You can change these by a couple of methods.
1. By applying a theme package. You can get info in the themes forum.
2. By changing the icons in the rom.zip before flashing.
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1. lookaed around, all i could find was this, which while i could probably do it, seems like more trouble than its worth. I didn't see any theme packages......
2. explanation/link please? thanks.
mtmerrick said:
1. lookaed around, all i could find was this, which while i could probably do it, seems like more trouble than its worth. I didn't see any theme packages......
2. explanation/link please? thanks.
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If you're going to be running a 3.2 rooted stock ROM, any of the mods on this page should work for you, all flashable in CWM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375091
sweet, thanks. actually that ROM looks really nice, i just might bite eventually
mtmerrick said:
1. lookaed around, all i could find was this, which while i could probably do it, seems like more trouble than its worth. I didn't see any theme packages......
2. explanation/link please? thanks.
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You didn't look very hard
Here's a theme on the first page in the forum;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349328
Hafta look just a little harder.
Hi, i have an atrix, once upon a time i let it fly off my motorcycle while using gps. 12 cars and a full schoolbus later i needed another phone. I got another atrix 2 months ago off ebay for a fair price. I really like the phone, but i was running kennethpenns alien ROM. I tried to put another rom on, but i had to unlock it first, well i have failed miserably. I dont think i am bricked, but it said "Failed to boot 0x1000" to i scrolled down to android recovery and selected that thinking i will start over. Now it says "reading ODM fus:1" and its stuck doing that.
Look here is the short facts. Im not a developer, but i LOVE messing around with my atrix. I have a lapdock that i like to occasionally use, I use it in my car all the time in the dock and i have an 11 week old daughter (my first child) that i am fond of taking video and pictures with and sharing with my family. I sometimes web surf from my HD dock and use it for music.
I am 42yrs old, and i try to keep up, but obviously i messed up.
Here is what i am looking for, Someone who, for $30 will speaker phone, Go To Meeting with me (i can set it up) and spend no more than 45min with me to get this unlocked and a ROM on it. The question is the ROM. I need all these functions that i mentioned above, i dont care if the fingerprint reader works or not, it would be nice but it doesnt have to.
Is there anyone out there that can help, or would like to? I will paypal Today, as soon as you contact me. I will check messages, but if you want to go ahead and call my office phone #, here it is.xxx-xxx-xxxx, it calls a Dallas number, but i am a remote worker on the east coast in Atlanta.
I will reply to this post, once someone has contacted me to help, thus no need for multiple call.
Thank you so much for anyone up to the challenge. Max
EDIT I should add, that whomever helps, i dont care if your 6 years old, have a little patience with me. I rarely use Command Prompt in my day to day living, although i took a C+ class 10 years ago and got a C-....seriously embarresed. I also have RSDlite installed and all the drivers, unzipped in a file on my desktop as instructed from this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
maxnkay said:
Hi, i have an atrix, once upon a time i let it fly off my motorcycle while using gps. 12 cars and a full schoolbus later i needed another phone. I got another atrix 2 months ago off ebay for a fair price. I really like the phone, but i was running kennethpenns alien ROM. I tried to put another rom on, but i had to unlock it first, well i have failed miserably. I dont think i am bricked, but it said "Failed to boot 0x1000" to i scrolled down to android recovery and selected that thinking i will start over. Now it says "reading ODM fus:1" and its stuck doing that.
Look here is the short facts. Im not a developer, but i LOVE messing around with my atrix. I have a lapdock that i like to occasionally use, I use it in my car all the time in the dock and i have an 11 week old daughter (my first child) that i am fond of taking video and pictures with and sharing with my family. I sometimes web surf from my HD dock and use it for music.
I am 42yrs old, and i try to keep up, but obviously i messed up.
Here is what i am looking for, Someone who, for $30 will speaker phone, Go To Meeting with me (i can set it up) and spend no more than 45min with me to get this unlocked and a ROM on it. The question is the ROM. I need all these functions that i mentioned above, i dont care if the fingerprint reader works or not, it would be nice but it doesnt have to.
Is there anyone out there that can help, or would like to? I will paypal Today, as soon as you contact me. I will check messages, but if you want to go ahead and call my office phone #, here it is.xxx-xxx-xxxx, it calls a Dallas number, but i am a remote worker on the east coast in Atlanta.
I will reply to this post, once someone has contacted me to help, thus no need for multiple call.
Thank you so much for anyone up to the challenge. Max
EDIT I should add, that whomever helps, i dont care if your 6 years old, have a little patience with me. I rarely use Command Prompt in my day to day living, although i took a C+ class 10 years ago and got a C-....seriously embarresed. I also have RSDlite installed and all the drivers, unzipped in a file on my desktop as instructed from this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
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I'll help u when I'm done with class around 1.30
Sent from my CM10 Motorola Atrix 4G
Thank you
Ilkinansr92 said:
I'll help u when I'm done with class around 1.30
Sent from my CM10 Motorola Atrix 4G
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East coast time? That would be much appreciated! I am looking for a walk thru and a second set of eyes on what i am doing wrong. Still wanting to learn to be proficient at this.
My regards.
Hello Hungary
balintmaci said:
it might have been updated to the latest bootloader which bricks the phobe when you try to unlock it or downgrade i dont think theres been a solution but look around. best option is to have it fixed by motorola and live with official GB
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Boy would that suck!! The deal with the Ebay phone is it never was able to run GPS and i could not recieve data on it unless it was Wi Fi and the finger sensor button always ran hotter than my old good phone with Kennethpenns Alien ROM on it. I have been meaning to try this for a while, all i can do is try right?
Do u have Skype. If so private msg me ur ID
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No need to pay for something that you can easily do yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600 This link should have all the relevant information you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 This should solve your softbrick problems. You are going to need to install Official Motorola Drivers found here: http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-E...arging-Drivers and a USB to micro USB cable.
As for Roms, I do not use Webtop myself, but there are many threads in the development section that can operate under the conditions you require. It just requires a little bit of reading, if you have taken C++ before, this should be fairly simple. After unbricking your phone and installing recovery, all you have to do is flash the zip from within the recovery, quite harmless compared to RSD.
It's very simple, i had this issue too and this tip below worked with me, hope it helps you
I: Unlock BootLoader
Step 1:
- Download file Atrix.zip, then extract to C, now you have folder C:\Atrix
- Install Handset USB driver & RSD lite
Step 2.
- On Atrix, go to RSD protocol mode
Step 3.
- Flash intl-fix-try1.sbf in Atrix folder via RSD lite
Step 4.
- On Atrix go to Fastboot mode
- On your PC, open CMD and type
c: cd \Atrix
fastboot oem unlock [ Remember your device ID (16 letters and numbers)]
fastboot oem unlock #### ( #### is your device ID above)
fastboot reboot
Done
In the first reboot, you'll see the text Unlocked on your screen.
II: Install CWM
1.go to fastboot mode
2. on PC, type in cmd
c: cd \Atrix
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot reboot
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Now go flash Nottach or "The ROM" and enjoy your phone.
you'll find Atrix.zip here
Thanks, working on it
ravanne said:
No need to pay for something that you can easily do yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600 This link should have all the relevant information you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 This should solve your softbrick problems. You are going to need to install Official Motorola Drivers found here: http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-E...arging-Drivers and a USB to micro USB cable.
As for Roms, I do not use Webtop myself, but there are many threads in the development section that can operate under the conditions you require. It just requires a little bit of reading, if you have taken C++ before, this should be fairly simple. After unbricking your phone and installing recovery, all you have to do is flash the zip from within the recovery, quite harmless compared to RSD.
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I appreciate the help, but in a world where time is money, I will return time invested from person helping. I def think i softbricked my phone. I need a streamline guidance to get up and running again. I will look at what you linked here and try to un soft brick my phone lol. Really did not want to spend my afternoon doing this, but it needed to be done!
voncount said:
It's very simple, i had this issue too and this tip below worked with me, hope it helps you
Now go flash Nottach or "The ROM" and enjoy your phone.
you'll find Atrix.zip here
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Thank you, working on un soft bricking my phone. I am REALLY interested in the Nottach ROM or "The ROM" but i thought it was unstable. I am downloading the Nottach one you linked and i think i will try that. Much appreciatted.
ravanne said:
No need to pay for something that you can easily do yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600 This link should have all the relevant information you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 This should solve your softbrick problems. You are going to need to install Official Motorola Drivers found here: http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-E...arging-Drivers and a USB to micro USB cable.
As for Roms, I do not use Webtop myself, but there are many threads in the development section that can operate under the conditions you require. It just requires a little bit of reading, if you have taken C++ before, this should be fairly simple. After unbricking your phone and installing recovery, all you have to do is flash the zip from within the recovery, quite harmless compared to RSD.
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The Megaupload link was siezed by the FBI so i was unable to download that zip pack. I did get the motodrivers though, thank you.
Just searched the thread for V4.2 and found a dropbox mirrored site. Sorry! Got it!
AND I FIXED MY SOFTBRICK!
Sweet! Now flash recovery from 4.2 then flash the room of your choice from recovery... some process is painless.
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Painless indeed
ravanne said:
Sweet! Now flash recovery from 4.2 then flash the room of your choice from recovery... some process is painless.
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app
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No JOKE! Wow this is unbelievable, except the very believable part where i unlocked it, (unbricked it) and then went back into main and it said, battery too low to flash! Bahaha, im charging it now. So curious to see what the Nottach ROM is like. Really wish there was a "Best" Rom for my listed applications.
On another note, this will hold me over until december when i see all the Head to Head reviews of the 920 lumina (since my work is based in Windows Outlook and Salesforce.com software) the Optimus G, or the Nexus version of said phone. Not sure there are any other power house phones out there being released besides the One V+ which doesnt really strike me. You know what does though, thats a little oddball but cool? That Padfone 2 coming out. If that has LTE, i really might consider that as a serious contender to replace my awesome Atrix 4g.
If you don't really need the webtop, I would suggest epinter's cm10. Hardware Acceleration does not work right now, but all normal day to day process works very well. Hopefully, with so many people working on the leaked rom, it will come to fruition very soon and we'll have a fully functional jelly bean on our hands. I read somewhere that they are working on an improved version of webtop, but since I don't use it, I didn't really pay attention to that development. Hopefully that did not take up too much of your time and enjoy your newly unlocked phone!
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maxnkay said:
Thank you, working on un soft bricking my phone. I am REALLY interested in the Nottach ROM or "The ROM" but i thought it was unstable. I am downloading the Nottach one you linked and i think i will try that. Much appreciatted.
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Dont try that rom yet as its unstable
All fixed! Case CLOSED! Thanks Andre!