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Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
Were would I find the rooted roms?
DynamicXL said:
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.
Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.
Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
nick_karstedt said:
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this
Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!
Fuse8499 said:
I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...
I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.
Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.
Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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s15274n said:
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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Seriously, I know you guys hate noob posts, that been covered 1000x before.... but, my phone just arrived! This site is very large and scary... if someone could point me to a how to guide and a recommended rom... I would appreciate it.
Thx
THE BEST PLACE to start is: http://www.youtube.com/user/HTCShowMe
uh, thx?
I meant for rooting, custom roms etc... but thx either way.
Try this http://hemorrdroids.net/overclock-undervolt-your-desire-hd/
You can look for custom roms in the Dev section. There are other guides in there too.
Mr.Kakarot said:
uh, thx?
I meant for rooting, custom roms etc... but thx either way.
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First you should decide why you need to root or flash custom roms. If you find out you should also make sure that you know "how to do" steps for rooting transactions.
eozen81 said:
First you should decide why you need to root or flash custom roms. If you find out you should also make sure that you know "how to do" steps for rooting transactions.
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Sage advice, my thoughts, apply the current OTA update and see how you get on with it as stock, then when you know where you stand think about modding it, Visionary (from Paul at modaco) will attain temp root for you to expirement with and see what root will give you without risk and can apply permanent root when and if its required. Main advice is enjoy your new phone
BTW hold off applying any future OTA updates until they have been examined, as I believe the latest Incredible OTA closes off many of the current root exploits
I would play around with it first before rooting. This way you can see what you think is missing and choose the rom you want accordingly
Agreed and thanks for the concern
I got the same advice when I posted about my nexus one..... 3 days later, I rooted! Wish I read that comment about ota
first though.....
I'll hold off a cooked days as I might not keep it, having no 3g is tough, camera doesn't seem very good and the speaker sound is very tingy.... it has proved I missed Android but this might not be the phone for me
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Followup to this msg: We have enough volunteers. I just need to work thru some issues with jcase before we start testing. Please be patient.
Good news everyone...
About 8 days ago I rooted my TB -without-losing-ANYTHING-.
I'd like to get a few volunteers to try the procedure before I make it public...
Anyone with an UN-rooted phone who's willing to be a guinea pig, please PM me. Ideal volunteers would be moderately tech-savvy and not have anything on their phone that would be catastrophic if it were lost.
You'd also be a good candidate to help getting this procedure worked out if you just want to root your phone and don't care if you lose anything...
If you're wondering why I don't just post it, I had several false starts (kept getting interrupted because I didn't allow enough time) and then didn't take detailed notes on the final run where I managed to finish it. I want the instructions to be fairly solid before I throw anyone with critical phone data into the procedure.
I hope you understand and will be patient while I get this properly documented...
We already have root?
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superchilpil said:
We already have root?
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The current root removes all of your data, he's saying he found a way to do it and not lose any data.
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We already have root?
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Yes....but he's looking for testers who possibly won't lose any data, apps, etc., by going to root from stock.
We have root, but any process, automated or manual...will put the phone back to 100% stock and remove any and all user info.
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We already have root?
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We have root but the current method wipes the data. He has found a way to root without losing data. That's the way I took it.
Edit: both of you beat me to it lol
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No offense to the OP but once you flash another rom you WILL have to wipe...
Now if its a one click type of root then that's a breakthrough
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I see the value in this. Some people may just wanna root their TB but not want to install custom ROM. Or they may want to root to see what they can do with a rooted phone.
Thanks for your work but too bad I've already rooted mine.
I'm willing to try it
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Ill try it our for you. Ill unroot when I get home and give your method a shot. Let me know
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superchilpil said:
No offense to the OP but once you flash another rom you WILL have to wipe...
Now if its a one click type of root then that's a breakthrough
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Not a one-click (I wish...).
If this works for the volunteers, the part in your msg about "... WILL have to wipe." may be obsolete info...
Followup volunteering msgs sent to lgldrgdlr and rjackson23 (who should have PM'ed me...)
I think we have enough volunteers at this time. Thanks.
I'm working with jcase (who may have a missing piece of the puzzle for a no-loss variant that would take MUCH less time to run). I'll keep you informed as this progresses...
wmserver said:
I see the value in this. Some people may just wanna root their TB but not want to install custom ROM. Or they may want to root to see what they can do with a rooted phone.
Thanks for your work but too bad I've already rooted mine.
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I'm in that boat.. I want root, but not really interested in other ROMs at this time. I went down that road wit hmy X and my Xoom, and its a pain, especially wit hthe Xoom and the move from 3.01 to 3.1 and now 3.2.
I guess one main question is if you root the TB, does it hack the hotspot as well, or would i still need to go get Wireless Tether?
jwb
This would be extremely useful...don't listen to the naysayers.
For those of us who waited to root a week, two, or even a month or two after getting the phone, there was no way to make a solid backup of apps, settings, etc. since most of the better methods require root. So many things had to be wiped clean completely. With a no-wipe root, whether you move onto ROMs or not, you have the opportunity to take a nandroid, use Titanium Backup, etc.
I can't donate my time or phone since I'm busy at work and need a strong daily driver, but I wish you luck.
I just rooted my phone yesterday. I would have liked to try it out and be part of the breathrough.
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Jolest said:
Not a one-click (I wish...).
If this works for the volunteers, the part in your msg about "... WILL have to wipe." may be obsolete info...
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great work man Im not trying to bash you
Is it any easyer than our original method? I know alot of people have problems with it because adb is so "scary"
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superchilpil said:
great work man Im not trying to bash you
Is it any easyer than our original method? I know alot of people have problems with it because adb is so "scary"
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Sorry... Unfortunately, it's not any easier. It's an add-on to jcase's root method so it still uses adb. It actually takes about 3 times as much time as his, but most of that time is waiting for backup and restore operations to complete.
Very glad to hear development is still ongoing for root! I like this! I hope it works out well. I'd volunteer but I'm past that point. I ran my dInc stock rooted for a pretty long time before trying a custom ROM. This makes a lot of sense to me.
I'll be watching this. My wife won't let me root her TB because she doesn't want to redo her settings.
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I advise against using this backup method, taking a DD of /data while its r/w can lead to corruption.
A better idea would be to push su (aka a temp root) into your path and use something like titanium backup to backup you data.
ok hi im a newbe i have a htc g2 about a year old just wanted to ask what is root and why would you want to do it can it help with things like making the back speaker loulder if it can i need to do it i love this phone but the speaker sucks thanks in advance
Its like a jailbreak. To get full control of the phone. With rooting, you can try different roms, mods, overclocking, better proformance ~ reception ~ battery life, ect.
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clamman said:
ok hi im a newbe i have a htc g2 about a year old just wanted to ask what is root and why would you want to do it can it help with things like making the back speaker loulder if it can i need to do it i love this phone but the speaker sucks thanks in advance
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You can boost the volume of the back speaker with volume+ app (requires root), increase overall phone speed by flashing Cyanogen roms (CM7), and save battery life or speed up the phone dramatically by overclocking. Much more too that you will learn and find more useful after rooting your phone. Its worth it... trust me
ONE THING THOUGH... VERY IMPORTANT!
Do your research first. Don't just fly into it blindly. Know your risks and requirements and then follow the directions EXACTLY. It seems scary in a way but if you read carefully and follow it... you'll do fine! Good luck and hope to see you in the CM7 threads soon
sino8r said:
You can boost the volume of the back speaker with volume+ app (requires root), increase overall phone speed by flashing Cyanogen roms (CM7), and save battery life or speed up the phone dramatically by overclocking. Much more too that you will learn and find more useful after rooting your phone. Its worth it... trust me
ONE THING THOUGH... VERY IMPORTANT!
Do your research first. Don't just fly into it blindly. Know your risks and requirements and then follow the directions EXACTLY. It seems scary in a way but if you read carefully and follow it... you'll do fine! Good luck and hope to see you in the CM7 threads soon
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thank you very much i just did som reading on rooting and some of the ways say u can brick it can u suguest the best way to root thanks
p.s i have gingerbread update on this phone
Useful links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
wiki guide to rooting the g2/desire Z/Vision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
Everything you need to know is found there
is there a easy way to root or whatis the best way dont forget im a newbe lol and i have gingerbread ota update on my phone also has any one used the volume+ app and noticed a big differance in volume?
thanks
Its a pain in the asre, but the best thing to do is spend as long as you can reading about the following:
ADB
Root benefits
Clockworkmod recovery
Rom manager
Bootloader/hboot
Of 5 phones I've rooted, this was the most complicated so read as much as possible.
Root itself is administrator rights to the whole file system. It is a linux term (android is based on linux). You can do a lot of damage but also, with a little knowledge, can have great control over the look and performance.
Ps. Flashing custom roms is addictive
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Google is your friend...
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-2/
http://www.androidauthority.com/rooting-for-dummies-a-beginners-guide-to-root-your-android-phone-or-tablet-10915/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elgz-hTw1Sc
And there isn't a "one click" method for our device, but the wiki is very thorough, and if you research a bit and follow the guide step by step, you should be happily rooted in no time.
I was in ur shoes a couple of weeks back, and I must tell you, rooting the phone is like breathing a new life into it. U will have endless possibilites to customize.
Anyways my two cents to the issue is to tell you that in other for you to root ur phone after the gingerbread update u will need to downgrade it back to froyo first, then u can then have ur pick of several rooted custom roms based on gingerbread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
This link will help you downgrade. After which u can follow any other guides to flashing a custom rom.
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racoonowner said:
I was in ur shoes a couple of weeks back, and I must tell you, rooting the phone is like breathing a new life into it. U will have endless possibilites to customize.
Anyways my two cents to the issue is to tell you that in other for you to root ur phone after the gingerbread update u will need to downgrade it back to froyo first, then u can then have ur pick of several rooted custom roms based on gingerbread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
This link will help you downgrade. After which u can follow any other guides to flashing a custom rom.
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what did you use to root after?
clamman said:
what did you use to root after?
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Once you're on Froyo, this method (link below) is my suggestion. I used it a couple months back and it worked great... zero problems and it took all of 15 minutes. It uses gfree which is the preferred method according to the wiki... speaking of, the wiki offers a wealth of information. Bombadier linked it previously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
Thanks for leting him know, Ditamae. I couldn't tell him the new method since I rooted a year ago on Froyo... besides, it is quite confusing when a device is a year old, has had a ton of updates, and two different models of the device. I've actually bricked a device for those reasons before and its never fun. Especially when its your wifes phone lol! Even us who have been in the IT field for 10 years make mistakes
Lol!
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Thanks for leting him know, Ditamae. I couldn't tell him the new method since I rooted a year ago on Froyo... besides, it is quite confusing when a device is a year old, has had a ton of updates, and two different models of the device. I've actually bricked a device for those reasons before and its never fun. Especially when its your wifes phone lol! Even us who have been in the IT field for 10 years make mistakes
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Thanks for leting him know, Ditamae. I couldn't tell him the new method since I rooted a year ago on Froyo... besides, it is quite confusing when a device is a year old, has had a ton of updates, and two different models of the device. I've actually bricked a device for those reasons before and its never fun. Especially when its your wifes phone lol! Even us who have been in the IT field for 10 years make mistakes
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For sure. The method I linked is actually a bit older and the OP doesn't appear to support it anymore (he didn't support it back when I rooted, but I read the entire thread). It worked perfectly for me and I've seen posts from users who downgraded from 2.3 and then had it success with it. I was even able to refer back to, a couple months after rooting, and flash the engineering hboot with no problems whatsoever. Too bad the guy isn't around to take credit for his guide.
Are you gonna try out the new stable CM? I kinda want to, but how can it be better than the nightlies? Stability? I feel like the nightlies are stable.
the latest stable is just build #225 so I just flash the nightly and keeping going with those. but yeah, nightlies for the past few months have been nothing but flawless
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Lol!
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hahahhahaha! I know! I even was a cell tech for 5 years hehehehhe (i do PCs now)! I bricked many a phones in the past but they were easy to fix with the right tools. but bricking the old lady's phone is a BIG non no
The easiest way to root on froyo is by using z4 root or universal androot
You can also use the tool for the pc called superone click roo
Stewie just said that!
Awesome thread, exactly what I was looking for. Doing it this weekend. Thx
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Shadow_Android said:
The easiest way to root on froyo is by using z4 root or universal androot
You can also use the tool for the pc called superone click roo
Stewie just said that!
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It might be the easiest, but I've heard of many users who've experienced problems using that method. I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying the wiki is probably the safest bet.
Well I just got a new one in the mail and I'm kind of afraid to root it, I rooted my htc evo 3d now it's bricked dwith a red light. Windows detects it but it won't boot but that's another ordeal. Anyway is it possible to brick my nexus 4 on 4.3?
No need to root this beast. Imo
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1slow4G said:
No need to root this beast. Imo
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I'd like to root it to get rid of the soft keys and enable lte if possible.
kennethk1 said:
I'd like to root it to get rid of the soft keys and enable lte if possible.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Just root using one of the software packages, or do it manually. There are many guides for this. It really is no big deal and almost nothing to worry about IMHO.
The biggest worry is that once you unlock and root, you'll want to flash. Then the addiction begins!!!!!
Just read and do all your researches. Go for it.
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way2muchcoff said:
I wouldn't worry about it. Just root using one of the software packages, or do it manually. There are many guides for this. It really is no big deal and almost nothing to worry about IMHO.
The biggest worry is that once you unlock and root, you'll want to flash. Then the addiction begins!!!!!
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Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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did you find that here... This is your first problem if you ask me, you come to xda to ask questions but you do not use the multiple root options that are stickied(for a reason mind you). Try to use a root from another area. Do yourself a favor and read the wugs thread or mskip. No need to go looking elsewhere since its all right in here.
If you have bricked other phone and not sure about what to do then I suggest you enjoy HSPA+ and try and deal with the buttons. Its a great phone and selling cheap now but that does not mean your brick it if you are not sure about rooting.
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did you find that here... This is your first problem if you ask me, you come to xda to ask questions but you do not use the multiple root options that are stickied(for a reason mind you). Try to use a root from another area. Do yourself a favor and read the wugs thread or mskip. No need to go looking elsewhere since its all right in here.
If you have bricked other phone and not sure about what to do then I suggest you enjoy HSPA+ and try and deal with the buttons. Its a great phone and selling cheap now but that does not mean your brick it if you are not sure about rooting.
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Let's try to not be rude here. I was simply asking if it was legit. No rule against asking questions like that is there?
I'm glad you enjoy that but I do not.
Enjoy your evening.
Nah my bad not rude at all just a straight forward person... Sorry if you took it wrong but too me if you are worried don't root
Edit: I agree with below comment if you gonna do it learn it all but also that means take time to research as well and know what you are doing and what it takes to make it right in case something goes wrong.
Also as I read my thread I had some points there that were helpful again sorry you took it wrong way
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The only right way of unlocking & rooting your Nexus.
Learn why you do things, what happens at different stages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Nah my bad not rude at all just a straight forward person... Sorry if you took it wrong but too me if you are worried don't root
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Edit: My bad its probably legit but I really only trust xda methods myself
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kennethk1 said:
Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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IMO the only thing daunting in this is the unlock procedure. Once unlocked then rooting, custom recoveries, custom roms, mods, themes, and all else become possible.
When I did it I went old school and used adb and the sdk and did everything manually. I learned a lot on the way, even as I was nervous and worried. I strongly recommend this approach though as it will help you to understand your phone and its operating system. And you also can begin to appreciate the beauty of open-source.
Just follow the directions in the guides posted here at XDA. Go slow. Read. Download the requirements. Be patient. Be meticulous. You will be ok... And if you really don't want to get your hands dirty use one of the 'kits' also available for download here at XDA.
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Edit: My bad its probably legit but I really only trust xda methods myself
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It's understandable, I'm really just looking at which is the best and easiest method since there seems to be tons of options.
way2muchcoff said:
IMO the only thing daunting in this is the unlock procedure. Once unlocked, rooting, custom recoveries, custom roms, mods, themes, and all else become possible. When I did it I went old school and used adb and the sdk and did everything manually. I learned a lot on the way, even as I was nervous and worried. I strongly recommend this approach though as it will help you to understand your phone and its operating system. And you also can begin to appreciate the beauty of open-source. Just follow the directions in the guides posted here at XDA. You will be ok. And if you really don't want to get your hands dirty use one of the 'kits' also available for download here at XDA.
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The weird thing was I installed superuser just fine then went to install a few roms and couldn't get anything to work..
I'm just afraid of having a new phone and it instantly being paperweight.
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It's understandable, I'm really just looking at which is the best and easiest method since there seems to be tons of options.
The weird thing was I installed superuser just fine then went to install a few roms and couldn't get anything to work..
I'm just afraid of having a new phone and it instantly being paperweight.
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sounds to me that you are not sure of yourself or have not done enough homework prior to flashing or rooting.. If thats the case leave your new phone alone and just enjoy it. Rooting is honeslty easy and fun but if you are not sure of yourself it could be a nightmare.
Its unlock bootloader run a command to push recovery and flash and su.zip quite simple by original 40 step Evo root procedure back in the days
That's the reason for old school. If you get a handle on the basics of adb your phone is almost indestructable from an OS and software standpoint because you can just return to stock images if things go south a little bit....
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My advice: just do it!
The fear will vanish.....
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I say go for it.
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So guess what, I rooted and everything got Miui rom installed went to restore now my phones stuck on fastboot menu.
Any links on how to get 4.3 back on or am I screwed? cmd still detects my phone, theres gotta be a way to get out of this?
Never mind! Was able to download the stock img from google and restore the phone, whew.