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Samifirmware tweeted 4 days ago about the gingerbread update for us!

Samifirmware tweeted 4 days ago about the gingerbread update for us!
http://mobile.twitter.com/samfirmware/status/28802629756784641
Latest Android news from our side. Samsung still plans Android 2.3 for Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S release allround end Q1 begin Q2.
4 days ago*from web
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Remember that we were supposed to have froyo in september

True :/ maybe they meant 2012 then? Aha

samfirmware is very unreliable source

zorxd said:
Remember that we were supposed to have froyo in september
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Yeah, but we got it in october, remember, just one month later, so what's the problem? If they're one month late, I'm still happy.

End of Q1 is already FAR-FAR AWAY. I hope we will get some usable leak a lot earlier.

They should get a clue and skip over to 3.0.

mstrandbo said:
Yeah, but we got it in october, remember, just one month later, so what's the problem? If they're one month late, I'm still happy.
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In Canada it was in December.

JCopernicus said:
They should get a clue and skip over to 3.0.
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google said android 3.0 or honeycomb is for tablets only that means SGS will get 2.3 or gingerbread and maybe 2.4 ice cream sandwich then google will have to separate OS's under android tablet and phone for a while i think then they will join them together

JCopernicus said:
They should get a clue and skip over to 3.0.
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Why would that help? You think things would go much faster if they are tracking pre-release builds which are constantly changing? Also, they will still need to update their apps anyway..

Auzy said:
Why would that help? You think things would go much faster if they are tracking pre-release builds which are constantly changing? Also, they will still need to update their apps anyway..
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Having to rebase after 3.0 is cut next month is double the work for samsung, assuming they've already started rebasing for 2.3. Probably would go faster to drop the current iteration being worked on, instead of finishing that build, just to start again on the next one.
I mean they should hold of on whatever work they are doing for a 2.3 build and wait for the next line to be cut and then work on that. They don't HAVE to upgrade systematically between builds.

No rush, take time, do it right, put out a proper polished firmware. No interim release.

kunjar said:
No rush, take time, do it right, put out a proper polished firmware. No interim release.
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Pretty sure we would be cool with beta releases. Can always rollback.

what should do, well, they *should* release the drivers open source
but i'll be happy enough if someone leaks a 2.3 dev version

TechKidTarek said:
google said android 3.0 or honeycomb is for tablets only that means SGS will get 2.3 or gingerbread and maybe 2.4 ice cream sandwich then google will have to separate OS's under android tablet and phone for a while i think then they will join them together
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Most likely it will be like this. Anyway, 2.3 should be optimised for the CPU and GPU of Nexus S. Being the same as SGS, we might have a major boost in performance just with 2.3. Lets just hope that 2.4 will be build and developped on Nexus S as well.

TechKidTarek said:
google said android 3.0 or honeycomb is for tablets only that means SGS will get 2.3 or gingerbread and maybe 2.4 ice cream sandwich then google will have to separate OS's under android tablet and phone for a while i think then they will join them together
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Who did you hear this from?
I have heard Andy Rubin say multiple times 3.0 was not just for tablets.

BlackDino said:
Who did you hear this from?
I have heard Andy Rubin say multiple times 3.0 was not just for tablets.
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Any source for that? I'm pretty much reading the opposite about everywhere...
EDIT: Well, there's a video interview but it's 25mins. Don't have time right now to watch it but still, from the GIU it's pretty much tablet oriented...

New phone April - Not Ice Cream - But has Android 2.4

Another phone looks to be coming in April, (via BGR). Hopefully we also get 2.4 as soon as this launches, and that we don't have to wait...
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/07/android-2-4-reportedly-lands-in-april-viewsonic-among-first-to-launch/

uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony

AllGamer said:
uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony
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Should be interesting. Also, I had not heard of a ViewSonic phone before this article, and I am not sure if I am liking its design.
Nonetheless, based on what you said, it's good to see others come along and hopefully compete with Samsung, especially since so many people do not like or want a Samsung phone - other than to have Samsung's beautiful phone screen.

Bmerz said:
Should be interesting. Also, I had not heard of a ViewSonic phone before this article, and I am not sure if I am liking its design.
Nonetheless, based on what you said, it's good to see others come along and hopefully compete with Samsung, especially since so many people do not like or want a Samsung phone - other than to have Samsung's beautiful phone screen.
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that's exactly my problem
I love their screens, but not so much their bugged phones

AllGamer said:
that's exactly my problem
I love their screens, but not so much their bugged phones
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Ditto. There are a few other interesting forays into the smartphone market this year like vizio. Ill add a link when I get back to my computer
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Would the nexus s get the update before its released on another phone?
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If they don't update us before or at the same time the phone releases, this will be my last android device.
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meetagrawal said:
If they don't update us before or at the same time the phone releases, this will be my last android device.
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it doesn't work that way you see...
we on SNS got 2.3 before any body else
including the old HTC N1 which are still stuck on 2.2 officially
unofficial ROM cooks of course released 2.3
so chances are we'll see the same with 2.4 or 3.0

benifactor said:
Would the nexus s get the update before its released on another phone?
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I've seen two(2) videos showing 2.4 in the NS.
One of them showed 2.4 build GRI06B.
I'm not sweating...
Look in the I9023 thread.
Worst case: more fragmentation with I9020 2.3 and I9023 with 2.4...both being NS. haha

AllGamer said:
it doesn't work that way you see...
we on SNS got 2.3 before any body else
including the old HTC N1 which are still stuck on 2.2 officially
unofficial ROM cooks of course released 2.3
so chances are we'll see the same with 2.4 or 3.0
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Well, the way they're treating N1 owners right now is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt. In fact, they could be just waiting till 2.4 is ready to give it to both Nexus 1 and Nexus S. We buy the Nexus phones partly because we are supposed to be given updates on a first priority basis. If Google decides to hold back 2.4 from us for another phone, they will have lost an Android supporter in me.

AllGamer said:
uhhhhhhh... interesting to see ViewSonic coming to the battleground
they used to be famous for their Displays and Monitors... i wonder if they plan to release their own screens to fight against Samsung & Sony
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They already have an Android Device the "g Tablet". Although from what I have read the reviews say the screen sucks (poor viewing angle), surprises me since that is what they do. On another note the g Tablet has Android 2.2 and nVidia Tegra 2
...viewsonic.com/gtablet/

meetagrawal said:
Well, the way they're treating N1 owners right now is rubbing me the wrong way, but I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt. In fact, they could be just waiting till 2.4 is ready to give it to both Nexus 1 and Nexus S. We buy the Nexus phones partly because we are supposed to be given updates on a first priority basis. If Google decides to hold back 2.4 from us for another phone, they will have lost an Android supporter in me.
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I'd bet my meager reputation that we get it before.
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I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).

I'm really surprised the N1 hasn't seen GB officially yet. I would be curious to see 2.4

Bmerz said:
I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).
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N1 came with eclair and then got froyo 2 months later I believe.
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Not liking the Viewsonic design. I thought it was an external HDD.
I hope that the Nexus S gets its update, well if not at the same time as the release of the Viewsonic phone, at least a week or two after.

Bmerz said:
I'd be shocked if we didn't get the 2.4 update, at the time of its launch. Especially since 2.4 doesn't seem to be Ice Cream, but rather a touch of Honey glazed over Gingerbread.
While I am kind of new to Android (and smart phones in general), I cannot see Google keeping this update from us NS users. Although, I am a little surprised that the N1 hasn't seen Gingerbread yet (OTA from Google that is).
Just curious, how many updates did the N1 get from the time of its launch, and what Android version did it start with (Eclair or Froyo?).
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the phone started with Eclair and it was approximately 6 months until OTA Froyo.

kenvan19 said:
N1 came with eclair and then got froyo 2 months later I believe.
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More like 6 months later for the official OTA.
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krohnjw said:
More like 6 months later for the official OTA.
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When did the first phone with Froyo launch? Or was N1 the 1st to get it?

terra_droid said:
Not liking the Viewsonic design. I thought it was an external HDD.
I hope that the Nexus S gets its update, well if not at the same time as the release of the Viewsonic phone, at least a week or two after.
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that's exactly what i though as well when i first saw the picture. LOL

acer iconia and 3.2

Hi....so what is the stand of Acer related to us getting 3.2 ?
I hope the won't just update to 3.2 but also improve a lot a bugs related specifically to this tablet, for example rotation time....while using Virtuous Galaxy, one can tell this ain't hardware related but software related....
VG rom rotates sooooo much a faster than Acer roms that you can actually dare to rotate it..ans show friends how it handles it!
GPS also works poorly for me.
Well ....any comments or news?
Happy to know more of this 3.2 Honeycomb release!
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As it's coming for the Transformer soon, I expect iconia tab to follow shortly...
The core 3.2 drop from Google isn't exactly that feature rich (just a few font/sizing smoothing and SD card improvements) - Offical 3.2 release notes - so I'm with you in hoping for some general performance improvements from ACER directly.
Overall I'm not really waiting for 3.2 (at least not as much as I was for the 3.0 > 3.1 update) - that might change if Acer actually notified the community more about *what* they are doing in their releases - most of the time the only way to find what's changed is by poking around the update file after it's dropped.

I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?

cm0901 said:
I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!

kjy2010 said:
By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
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That's for sure. I'm not updating my tablet or phone until ice cream 4.0 is out. The EVO and acer will have to do until then.
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I've already made up my mind not to upgrade to a quad when it comes out. Duo is enough for me for now. The acer and gtab should last me for a while.

3.2 is for 7" tablet.. so why look for it?
expand/minimise window is nice , but 3.2? i think 3.1.1 would have be ok.
acer will not deliver anything good with 3.2, just resized window, what a fracking breakthrough..

well there is one part of the update that looks helpful: and that is the extended micro SD support. Meaning my music apps might actually be able to properly utilize my card.

cm0901 said:
I know it's for sure too early talk about (and a bit off topic too), but while I think that 3.2 will come for both A500 and A501, I'm quite worried about the timing. I'm new to Acer devices (only have HTC Desire as a cell phone). To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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I wouldn't worry too much. 4.0 will apparently be open sourced, like with 2.x, so rom builders can put together proper roms for the device rather than just modified versions of existing roms. 4.0 will come the iconia one way or another.

kjy2010 said:
By the time 4.0 comes out, the Tegra3 will be launching right along side/with it. Time for some quad core lovin'!
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Are you saying that 4.0 will require Tegra3 and/or quad core? Is this official or just your speculation?
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I agree that 3.2 is a minor update. However, if Asus and Moto are pumping it out I doubt that Acer will not follow suit. They already dropped the price to match the Asus so I have to believe they are keeping a close eye on the competition.
4.0 IceCream Sandwich is obviously the big update for the end of the year and really I'm thinking the a500 would be getting it. Probably not right at launch but fairly soon after. I'm of the opinion that Android has done a pretty good job of pumping out updates frequently and that keeps the carriers/manufacturers pretty loose with the hardware upgrade cycles. Meaning, unless there is a hardware limitation, I would bet the a500 gets the update since it has not been out that long. In the long run, even if it doesn't officially come from Acer, I'm sure the devs cook up some 4.0 goodness for us.

cm0901 said:
Are you saying that 4.0 will require Tegra3 and/or quad core? Is this official or just your speculation?
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On the contrary, 4.0 "supposedly" is to bring both phones and tablets onto the same OS!

cm0901 said:
To the ones who has other Acer devices: what's their "support lifetime"?
And, another fear is (again, too early to say) about 4.0: I hope we will be covered but... again, who knows about their support duration?
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This is my first Acer so I can't speak on lifetime, but the joy of Android, I'll guess long after Acer has moved on to the next tablet (A600 ?) - there will still be some resourceful people here releasing custom ROM updates including whatever neat updates including in the next tablet generation - but I'll put money down that their support model will be slightly longer than most carriers and their phones.

well I'm in no rush for it and wasn't in a rush for 3.1 only thing I would like is for better gps

base on Malaysia Acer,Hi fans - the Honeycomb 3.2 update for our Iconia Tab A500 will be released from 10th August onwards ~ stay tuned !
Several major changes
- Compatibility Zoom (app scaling)
- microSD card support (via USB cable to PC)
and many more ~!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/AcerMalaysia
Don't know if it's true or not

We might not get 4.0.......coz by that time acer would release its 7 inch tab running on 4.0....so....less probability for us getting an update for 4.0
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vari9 said:
We might not get 4.0.......coz by that time acer would release its 7 inch tab running on 4.0....so....less probability for us getting an update for 4.0
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Don't quite follow the logic that because the 7 inch tab would be out, the 10 inch won't get it?? The 7 isn't considered an 'upgrade' just another option.

update chasser threada
Just my openion here.yesne replying to this thread makes as guilty as um going to talk about here.With that said
Why is it we sit and wait wait grumbling about the next update. I do use my tablet and enjoy it as is.Stop chasing the next update. It will come
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erica_renee said:
Just my openion here.yesne replying to this thread makes as guilty as um going to talk about here.With that said
Why is it we sit and wait wait grumbling about the next update. I do use my tablet and enjoy it as is.Stop chasing the next update. It will come
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Well... there's more than someone here who loves updating and in general hacking their devices
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cfrock said:
Don't quite follow the logic that because the 7 inch tab would be out, the 10 inch won't get it?? The 7 isn't considered an 'upgrade' just another option.
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I'm not sure there was any? No need to look for something that's not there.
We'll get HC 3.2 the same way we got 3.1, 4-8 weeks behind Asia and Europe. I'm thinking we may very well get it here in the us by the time 4.0 comes out.....maybe?

Will the a500 be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich?

is a very good question.. any "official" word?

No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb

cordell507 said:
not anything official but i dont see why acer wouldn't do it, it's a great tablet but i will kinda miss the exclusivity that comes with honeycomb
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I'll bet a nickel that "unofficially" there will be roms for our device for a couple years forward. Ice cream sandwich and beyond.

gmfeny said:
No. No official word but I highly doubt it. Also on the Facebook page where acer mentioned the 3.2 update they said it will be the final update, sort of.
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The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems

Bryan646 said:
The final update they are talking about is this is the last Honeycomb update, not the final Acer a500 update. Google has said that Ice cream will be for all phone and tablets, excluding some older hardware. Also Ice cream is made for dual core systems
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It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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there is one reason why ACER might not port ICS to the A500, the A500 is not a phone, the A501 is possibly more into getting updated to ICS.

From what I understand (read somewhere), is that according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
My bet is that we'll get it sometime early next year.

gmfeny said:
It doesn't matter what processor ics is made for. I highly doubt the a500 will get ics. When it comes out acer will introduce a new tab to make more money. It doesn't matter if the a500 could run it or not. Now we may have custom roms but I'm 99.9% sure nothing official.
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But you're just speculating.

Google has already stated that ICS will be AOSP'ed, so worst case scenario we'll at least be able to get native 3rd party ROMs for our A500's as long as the developer community remains strong.

Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.

cm0901 said:
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

You had to be part of the Open Handset Alliance to get the source code for Honeycomb. Google wanted more control on this particular release to keep vendors from trying to use it on a regular phone.

From the "leaked" photos I'm not really impressed with the ice cream sandwich update. It might be nice on phones but I love honeycomb on tablets. Yes there could be some improvement but overall honeycomb is great.

ACER could get alot of good geek buzz, if they update to ICS and open the bootloader up.
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with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate

cm0901 said:
Am I the only one smelling a troll around here?
However, the 18 months update policy is for the Android Alliance Partners only, which unfortunately doesn't include Acer AFAIK.
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Ruh roh am I the troll?
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cordell507 said:
with ics i hope they have a tablet ui and a phone ui seperate
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I think you will be disappointed. ICS is supposed to re-unite the phone and tabs os into one.

FloatingFatMan said:
Oh yes they are...
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
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Open Handset Alliance == Android Alliance?
Not sure of that, but I may be well wrong...

Euclid's Brother said:
according to google policy, vendors are supposed to support their devices with new versions of Android for 18 months. Since the A500 was released in April, it should still be getting updates until Oct 2012 and ICS is supposed to be out by the end of this year.
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Ah, but an update to an OS and a NEW OS version are two entirely different things. Updates are point releases and bug fixes. You confuse the two, methinks. I deal with a lot of business contracts and I think I can speak with a bit of confidence that there's no way Google would force vendors to do major updates. Besides, if they did that you would now have Honeycomb on some phones... Obviously they can't because you can't even guarantee the same hardware will run the next major release.
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If Acer doesn't provide ICS for the A500, they are going to have A LOT of unhappy customers which would hurt them for future products.
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Again I disagree - sure there might be some irritated people on these forums, but the average consumer is now buying this tablet from Wal Mart of all places. That means they ain't all geeks anymore and probably won't even know when ICS is released.
The real trick is to buy like the manufacturers intended. Buy a tablet that does what you want RIGHT NOW. If you can't do that, don't buy because there's absolutely no guarantee that it will do what you want later.
It's like buying a Ford hoping for a free update to Jaguar before your warranty expires. Okay so it's nothing like that. But it is.
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But isn't that the point?

The "Ice Cream Sandwich Desire Z waiting" thread

Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?

It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.

You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs

I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...

I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.

I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
ashwinmudigonda said:
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.

Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!

According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.

Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today

I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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riahc3 said:
Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.​
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?

killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.

dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.