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Prevent audio push through speaker during notifications?

I'm sure most of you know what I'm talking about. If you recieve any notifications When listening to any audio through headphones (or through the mini usb port), the device pushes the notification sound through the speaker. This is fine when having a ringer enabled because I'd obviously want to hear the ring. What I dislike though, is when I have notfications (rings, text messages, etc.) on silent or vibrate, it pushes the audio that I'm listening to through the speaker still. I've always disliked this in WM. My PPC6700 did the same thing, but now I'd really like to know if there's a way to change this.
Now that I have an 8GB SD card, my Titan has started to become my primary mp3 player. I do FOH sound at a local club, and when playing music between bands, it's really annoying to have the music suddenlly cut out because a phone call is coming in. Likewise when I'm quietly watching MobiTV with my headphones on at work, and suddenly, Survivorman is blaring through the speaker because a call is coming in...You get the point. The ringer is off, but the phone still trys to let a ring through the speaker anyway, and since no ring is selected, it pushes any audio being played through.
I realize that this relatively simple problem probably does not have a simple solution as this is probably buried deep in the architecture of how WM handles audio gateways...that almost sounded like I knew what I was talking about; I can assure you that I do not . This is where you guys come in. I'm willing to test any ideas you guys have got. I don't care if it f&#*s up my phone...a hard reset isn't going to ruin my day. I'd just like a solution for this.
Ideas??
Thanks for your help and for this forum!..it has saved my phone more then a few times already.

Me too having the same problem. I listen to music via my bluetooth mono headset and these notifications (whcih I get plenty) disconnect the bluetooth audio gateway, forcing me to reach out to my phone and enabling the audio gateway again.

Yeah, I hate that too! I have the i760, one other thing on this phone I dislike is that the volume must be on to hear audio through my headphones. But there I am in a store listening to some rock at a loud volume, and there it is playing for the entire f'n store to hear when I get a call, thanks PPC!

Possible Solution!!!!
Might I recommend a Profiler. Like PPCProfiler. Just Google it.
What you could do is create a profile called music or what ever you want to name it. Then you could set up that profile to turn ringers on with the volume level you like and with or without vibration and select silent or vibrate only for the notifications. You could really but together any combination. I believe with PPCProfile you can even make a profile as a Headset Mode. So it will auto detect the headset and switch without having to do anything else.
Cheers.
Curious G.

Thanks for the reply, but a profiler isn't exactly what I'm looking for. I've had them before in previous roms. The problem isn't that it's an inconvienence to switch to silent or vibrate. It's that when things are silenced or on vibrate, any background audio is pushed through the speaker while the notification is going off. Meanwhile that audio that I want to be played cuts out of the path that I want it going through (ie. headphones).
Thanks tho...I'm open to any ideas.

Audio Booster switch off when phone is locked

Hi Guyz
Today i see one more bug in main HD2.
When you check it Audio Buster and afther that lock the phone Audio Booster automaticaly switch off and sound is changed. When you open Audio Booster it's checked but not working - you must to re-check it.
Do you know how i can fix it ?

FS i am beginning to loose my rag with this phone....

jrvenge said:
FS i am beginning to loose my rag with this phone....
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Next Music player problem:
When you press Menu->Update Music Art->Update Current Song
phone update not only current song. Phone update all album and not maked it correctly.
If you don't know Britney Spears - Womanizer is part of album with name "Latin Kings" and when i try to update just this song phone update another one and i can see that Lady Gaga have songs in last Britney Album .

Noticed the sound bug alot today, also one of my albums has double listings of each song, yet look in the folder and there is one of each???
Also the call volume bug is really annoying, always starts to loud, use the volume rocker switch to lower it ans its still loud, pop your finger on the screen and it drops right down to a perfect level, weird bug here to.
All of this however can be sorted, this is an awsome phone, and when these bugs are ironed out, it will be awsome x2

It is true I also have the problem with Audio Booster and a lot more people but it seems that unless the subject matter of the camera, for example, when this software is easily solvable, it is clear that we need a review of this application that improves both the music to everyone's taste.
Moreover this gap with a solution in part WOWHD ... works well, but I think too that there is no way of loss using an application that comes standard and ripe.

Headphone Music Increase (It's too quiet as an MP3 player)

Hi, Just got my HTC HD2 after a break from HTC handsets.
I've noticed when listening to music, even when turned up max, the music is quite quiet.
I've tried the audio booster but that seems to just do bass, vocal etc. not the overall volume.
On my old Omnia I had the same issue, but you could run SoundTester.exe and manually increase the db's.
But I don't seem to have that on the HD2.
Any ideas how to make the music louder? I mean walking past traffic & the music is easily drowned out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

searh for srs wow in the apps section of this xda hd2 forum.
and if you are a junglist check out ukbreakbeat.com

Maybe its the headphones? I have a set of fontopia headphones and on full volume it is properly painful.

Yeah my sennies get hilariously loud on full whack, suggest noise isolating as opposed to simple in ear. Once I got the correct sized ear adapter on em, even the tube cant intrude on my tunes

I'll check out srs wow thanks.
I'm using a set of Sony MDR-XD200 headphones at the moment, as I wasn't a fan of the standard HTC ones. They've been ok with other handsets & MP3 players (Except the omnia which had this problem too).

This guy gotta be deaf lol

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This guy gotta be deaf lol
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what was that...?

lol, no it was definetly quiet, alot more than it should be.
Do you remember on some of the old custom roms (I had one on my p3600) the audio broke and was really quiet, that is what this seems like.
But the SRS WOW has just about done the job, thanks
You know on normal windows mobile you can click on the speaker at the top and adjust ringing volume & device volume, I can't do that on the HD2, I can use the volume keys on the side, but that just does 1 generic volume, I was wondering if the device volume was set low, but I can't check it.

HTC_Junglist said:
You know on normal windows mobile you can click on the speaker at the top and adjust ringing volume & device volume, I can't do that on the HD2, I can use the volume keys on the side, but that just does 1 generic volume, I was wondering if the device volume was set low, but I can't check it.
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Settings tab, sound and display, the 2 volumes are there and a switch to link them or not.

Audio Oblivion said:
searh for srs wow in the apps section of this xda hd2 forum.
and if you are a junglist check out ukbreakbeat.com
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is that a flash site? doesnt load on hd2. is it dnb or nuskool breaks? my pc is dead so i cant check it

I'd say he needs some better headphones with higher impedence. I have Sennheisers and they are very very loud but then they are 70 Ohms

The only problem I have with my HTC HD2 as a music player is probably going to sound pretty minor. I have a set of Sennheisser in ear buds that I love and used to use on an iPod Touch. At it's loudest, the volume is a bit much for me usually, but the bar just below it I find isn't loud enough. Picky, I know, but it just seems like a big leap between volume levels. Is there any way of helping this?

Starfury said:
I'd say he needs some better headphones with higher impedence. I have Sennheisers and they are very very loud but then they are 70 Ohms
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Yep I have some too, dug them out last night to give them ago, no better really.
So I've tried Sennheiser Eco Ear Canal, Sony MDR-XD200 & the standard HTC ones packaged with the HD2.
All are too quiet, it's not my hearing, tried them all on the Omnia & they are deafening, also with the HD2 I can hear other stuff going on around me, cars, walking on gravel etc. Very strange others are not having this issue.
kilrah said:
Settings tab, sound and display, the 2 volumes are there and a switch to link them or not.
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Thanks! Yeah, unfortunately they were both on 100%

I have akg 321 in-ear buds, before that akg 315 normal style, I haven't experienced any volume problems with music.

NathanRandom said:
The only problem I have with my HTC HD2 as a music player is probably going to sound pretty minor. I have a set of Sennheisser in ear buds that I love and used to use on an iPod Touch. At it's loudest, the volume is a bit much for me usually, but the bar just below it I find isn't loud enough. Picky, I know, but it just seems like a big leap between volume levels. Is there any way of helping this?
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I had this issue. If you go to the volume screen that appears when you press the side volume buttons you can adjust the system volume by touching the bars to get gradual and precise volume increase/decrease. Using the toggle buttons makes it jump too much, stupid design imo.
Also the music player should have it's OWN volume control, instead it adjusts the entire system volume, again a ridiculous design flaw IMO also the volume graphic in the music player dissapears sometimes in rom 1.44, can't comment on other roms. I've had 2 HD2's and both have done the same thing.
Getting back to Junglist: I think you have a hardware issue mate, the full volume on this unit is very loud and even louder when used with audio booster. No one else has this problem. I use the sennheiser (spelling!) cx300's awesome headphones, and cheap
Talking of Audio booster again, in conjunction with the music player it is excellent, it handles the frequencies very well compared to say coreplayers eq that end up distorting the headphones with even minor bass frequency boosting. Using coreplayers pre amp is pointless also, complete distortion and hard to control, not very finger friendly.
It's such a shame about the Audio Booster switching itself off when jumping tracks even when it is left running in the background, it's only use therefore, is listening to long mixes. Too much of a pain to keep switching it back on after individual tracks You also have to switch it back on if you pause music and navigate away for a bit.
I hope HTC are aware of this and fix it in the next firmware update

jonbaker76 said:
is that a flash site? doesnt load on hd2. is it dnb or nuskool breaks? my pc is dead so i cant check it
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its a flash site yes... best to check it out on a pc tbh...
both dnb and dubstep are represented by this record label.
check out the music... there are links on their site to their soundcloud and myspace.
the website itself is sick! check out the spacialiser!!!

Audio Oblivion said:
its a flash site yes... best to check it out on a pc tbh...
both dnb and dubstep are represented by this record label.
check out the music... there are links on their site to their soundcloud and myspace.
the website itself is sick! check out the spacialiser!!!
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Will do, not a fan of dubstep but i used to play dnb, i make/dj breaks/nu skool breaks now, you into that?
check my tracks/remixes and mixes @:
www.soundcloud.com/billvega
can't beat a bit of self promotion, totally off topic, sorry!

jonbaker76 said:
It's such a shame about the Audio Booster switching itself off when jumping tracks even when it is left running in the background, it's only use therefore, is listening to long mixes. Too much of a pain to keep switching it back on after individual tracks You also have to switch it back on if you pause music and navigate away for a bit.
I hope HTC are aware of this and fix it in the next firmware update
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From the sticky at the top of this forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
25. Allow Audio Booster to Stay On.
Notice how after every song Audio Booster turns off again? A very simple solution is to press the Home button and not the "Done" softkey. This keeps Audio Booster running.
58. Keep Audio Booster Running After Each Song
Another way to keep Audio Booster running while playing music is to use the following reg tweak:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\enter_su spend and change 1 to 0
Although I have left the booster off and the volume no higher than 85% as with my Sennheiser HD-25 professional monitoring/DJ headphones on its too loud above these settings. With other headphones I have tried I agree its a bit quiet but not too bad. Maybe you have deafened yourself by having your music too loud

Starfury said:
From the sticky at the top of this forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
25. Allow Audio Booster to Stay On.
Notice how after every song Audio Booster turns off again? A very simple solution is to press the Home button and not the "Done" softkey. This keeps Audio Booster running.
58. Keep Audio Booster Running After Each Song
Another way to keep Audio Booster running while playing music is to use the following reg tweak:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\enter_su spend and change 1 to 0
Although I have left the booster off and the volume no higher than 85% as with my Sennheiser HD-25 professional monitoring/DJ headphones on its too loud above these settings. With other headphones I have tried I agree its a bit quiet but not too bad. Maybe you have deafened yourself by having your music too loud
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Thanks mate but i know about them. The tweaks don't work
even when audiobooster is still in the background (and dutty's task manager says so) it still doesn't work. Sometimes it does though, it's a bit random.
It certainly doesn't work if you pause the music and come back to it

Tried Nitrogen? I downloaded the other day but its still sat on my sd card

[IDEA] Audio notifications without interupting

I was thinking on the way in, as I got annoyed by my music getting interrupted to tell me I had a new gmail message, that it might be somehow possible to play alert tones without muting default volume. The official AIM app manages to do this somehow, and I've been told back in the day it didn't interrupt anything when an alert played, so I'd like to try to bring this back somehow.
My thoughts are that it should be doable either in the notifications code or the audio code itself. I'm planning to jump into the CM5 source head first tonight, but it would be nice to know where to go about starting looking - is anyone familiar enough with how this works to tell me if it's plausible, and which section of the code it should be in?

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this would be great! I mean, whats the point in a blinking red trackball, if it still interrupts music with the sound

Back in the RC29&30 days this was the normal behavior for Android. It was changed to the current action of pausing the ongoing music with RC33 (pretty sure). As much as I would love my music to not be interrupted, I prefer the current method to the old "mixing" method. Where it would just play both sounds at the same time (pretty annoying actually). What would be ideal to me is the way my SEM600i did it, when I was listening to music (or watching a video) it would just beep and vibe when an alert came in & the music continued to play. This way I knew something was happening (be it a call or message) and could check my phone if I wanted, or keep on listening uninterrupted.

daveid said:
Back in the RC29&30 days this was the normal behavior for Android. It was changed to the current action of pausing the ongoing music with RC33 (pretty sure). As much as I would love my music to not be interrupted, I prefer the current method to the old "mixing" method. Where it would just play both sounds at the same time (pretty annoying actually). What would be ideal to me is the way my SEM600i did it, when I was listening to music (or watching a video) it would just beep and vibe when an alert came in & the music continued to play. This way I knew something was happening (be it a call or message) and could check my phone if I wanted, or keep on listening uninterrupted.
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I agree with this. Would love a simple beep rather than the whole notification tone.

id prefer a dim of the music volume then the tone, when it stops altogether its quite annoying especially in my car with the speakers up. if it just dimmed the sound down to give the notification preference it wouldnt be so disturbing and it wouldnt go loud silent super loud silent loud every time i get a text

iamwhoamnot said:
id prefer a dim of the music volume then the tone, when it stops altogether its quite annoying especially in my car with the speakers up. if it just dimmed the sound down to give the notification preference it wouldnt be so disturbing and it wouldnt go loud silent super loud silent loud every time i get a text
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This would actually be ideal, I'm going to look into it and see if it's possible to do this.

iamwhoamnot said:
id prefer a dim of the music volume then the tone, when it stops altogether its quite annoying especially in my car with the speakers up. if it just dimmed the sound down to give the notification preference it wouldnt be so disturbing and it wouldnt go loud silent super loud silent loud every time i get a text
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this it how it should work!

iamwhoamnot said:
id prefer a dim of the music volume then the tone, when it stops altogether its quite annoying especially in my car with the speakers up. if it just dimmed the sound down to give the notification preference it wouldnt be so disturbing and it wouldnt go loud silent super loud silent loud every time i get a text
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I think is is ideal as well but I am not sure if Apple has a patent on that. No other phone that I know of uses that except the iPhone.

I think is is ideal as well but I am not sure if Apple has a patent on that. No other phone that I know of uses that except the iPhone.
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I had an SE phone that did that sometime ago... And i am pretty sure that Nokia N95 8GB also does it...

Random Actions in Default Music App?

I haven't been using the default music app because randomly it does an action after a while of playback, pretty much every few minutes; back, forward, pause, whatever, it random action just randomly happens. I've wondered if I somehow accidentally used some sort of gesture or touched the screen, but it happens when the screen is off as well and there doesn't seem to be any gesture that would affect the music app anyway. Does anyone have any idea what can be causing this?
I've been using PowerAmp which doesn't seem to support the A7's DAC. I have it set to 24 bit sound in the last Alpha of PowerAmp (which was many months ago, I've given up on any update for PowerAmp ever arriving) but after side by side sample comparisons they do sound different. The problem is I'm not sure if there's a slight volume difference between programs causing that, or if it's some setting, or if it really is due to the output being done on different DACs resulting in the differences. Pocket Now's video stating it only outputs 16 bit downsampled audio has also stuck in my mind, but despite contacting them twice on different social media, they never responded. That's infuriating, making a bold statement like that, then never providing an explanation and leaving it ambiguous, never stating if the downsampling was at software level, firmware level, or anything.
So I basically have no idea what the hell is going on with the audio on this thing in any way, from software to hardware. That's incredibly frustrating considering the DAC is a major reason why I bought this phone instead of something else.
Edit: I forgot to ask, what software should I use to confirm what sort of bit rate depth the Axon 7 is outputting? I have a Sound Blaster ZxR for recording, so I can plug the A7 right into that.

I can't tell you how to test the depth of the audio coming from the cell. If you can't tell the difference is there any real point? It it just a matter of wanting the product you thought you were paying for?
For the other issue, a really simple thing you've probably done already is checking that ZTE's voice software isn't enabled for media control. An old S4 of mine would go "back" any time a sound remotely like a short "a" played.

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I can't tell you how to test the depth of the audio coming from the cell. If you can't tell the difference is there any real point? It it just a matter of wanting the product you thought you were paying for?
For the other issue, a really simple thing you've probably done already is checking that ZTE's voice software isn't enabled for media control. An old S4 of mine would go "back" any time a sound remotely like a short "a" played.
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I can tell a difference, on the default music player it sounds better, for example instruments sound more crisp and separated from the rest of the audio. The issue is that I can't tell if that perception of more crisp/separated sound is due to a slight difference of volume between programs which is difficult to perceive. Just to add to the confusion, different songs seem to have different volume levels on each player, which aren't consistent. For example song A may be louder on PowerAmp, but song B is louder on the stock player. In those cases where the songs are clearly different volumes (maybe 10% of the time) it makes it extremely difficult to tell which one sounds better to me. This is with all equalizer/Dolby settings disabled.
Humans easily mistake higher volume for "better" quality in various ways. That's really the reason for the "volume wars" or whatever it's called; music was often mastered with levels just blasting instead of balancing the audio properly.
What I was asking is what free program can I use to record audio from my phone to check if it's outputting 24 bit audio? But on that same note, yes, I suppose that would also let me directly measure volume as well.
As for the voice recognition, I'll try disabling that and see if it helps, but isn't that supposed to only work when holding down the back key anyway? Also, often when it did a random command like next or previous song, I was silent.

Ah, I see. Sorry to not be helpful whatsoever.

Hmm y somehow ZTE has volume differences. I also noticed it if i enable/disable Dolby Atmos.
But i also think that ZTE set up some DSP stuff on AK4490/61. I would be happy if there was an app which could change DSP etc settings of this DACs :/

I also noticed the fluctuating volume, for me it's via bluetooth.
It would progressively become quiet and when the next song starts it would scare the crap out of me (much louder), then repeat.
Rarely, it would continue to play randomly after I disconnect from bluetooth (not immediately after).
So it would be nice if someone found a good music player that takes advantage of the DACs and not exhibit random behavior -- alternatively if this was fixed that would also be good.
EDIT: For me, it happens in a certain volume range in the upper end. Anything lower or higher this does not happen.