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I got a copy of Android - I think its 1.6 - running on my laptop - and it seemed to work ok and be stable so I wanted to put it onto the machine permanantly.
Trouble is its decided that nothing else on the machine exists and I can't get back into vista whatever I try
It boots into something called grub loader and the only two options are the normal boot and a sort of safe mode - that lists drivers much like the old one for Windows 95/98 where you could y/n each one...
I really need help to get vista back again since there is stuff I really need like internet banking that I don't think I can do any other way (to be fair I have yet to try)
Thanks in advance
Jemma
Please tell me you partitioned off your hard drive before doing this?
If not then its a reinstall I guess, which isn't to bad as it allows you to install a decent copy of windows such as XP
That quite simply isn't an option - I was told that there is a way of solving it by using a windows CD or boot disk to reload the MBR - I was also told that the file running GRUB can be edited to find windows.
The problem is I don't have another machine and I am on state benefits - I need this computer up and running and I need access to my documents.
I can't seem to mount anything in android - and as the only option is 'format sd card' I don't really want to take it..
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
Jemmauk said:
That quite simply isn't an option - I was told that there is a way of solving it by using a windows CD or boot disk to reload the MBR - I was also told that the file running GRUB can be edited to find windows.
The problem is I don't have another machine and I am on state benefits - I need this computer up and running and I need access to my documents.
I can't seem to mount anything in android - and as the only option is 'format sd card' I don't really want to take it..
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
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Well thanks for the sob story but what does being on benefits have to do with anything?
Anyway simply set your pc bios to boot from cd first, insert disk and boot up. From there you will be asked do you want to install or repair. Choose repair.
I'm unsure of the next step because I don't use Vista *spits* but if you can get to recovery console then you can run fixmbr from the prompt and also there is a boot manager that can fix your boot sector.
Alternatively you could from a dos prompt delete the 1.6 folders and rewrite the msconfig to open windows only.
There is also the root of trying the f8 safe mode boot into admin account and rewrite the msconfig from with windows if accessible from f8 safe.
But hell I ain't anyone else but I guess my 24 years in the business of building custom machine and my extensive knowledge of windows xp and below means nowt? Maybe try being a little less dismissive next time hey?
Add me on gmail - [email protected] if you want me to help you sort it out faster than we can here
Did you create partitions before installing android? if not then windows doesnt exist anymore, which is why grub didnt automatically add it to the list of things to boot (mine always listed everything, but sometimes it doesnt do that automatically)
this happend to me to. I had to use I linux live cd to delete the linux partition. and fix the mbr.
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dear friends .i tried to change my windows 7 to xp but that happend
i used usb_multiboot steps to do it and when i format my hdd and try to install it from the usb i get a lot of missed files to be copied to install xp
i tried to make others xp copies with more than 20 times it show me same(missed files which can not complete install) what can i do?????
Okay so what did you do now? How exactly did you try to install XP. What version of XP did you use, and what error does it give you exactly.
thanks so much for reply
what i do now is crying beside my htc shift ca not do nmothing with message every time say "setup cannot copy the file" and escap alot of file then not complet install
i used 2 copies of xp
tablet and other service pack 3 following usb-multi boot software by format my 2g usb and copy files from my xp source and boot well from usb it show me text install and go on then get copying files to install but that message come over and over "setup cannot copy the file"
what shall i do?
Alright so let me be sure that I have this right. You have tried to install XP from a 2GB USB drive, and it starts to install, then says that it cannot copy a file to the hard drive. Have you formatted your Shifts HDD using the Windows installer, and made sure to format it as NTFS? Also, are you using a legit copy of XP? Sometimes ones that you download from the net have things removed to make them have a smaller footprint once installed, but they also don't install correctly via USB. If you have a real retail XP copy, or have downloaded a copy of plain XP, I would redo your USB stick as it sounds like not all of the files where copied correctly to it. Let me know what happens.
first thanks so much for share and rely
second i formated it to ntsf after make 10g for c and the rest for d
second i downloaded the 2 copies from internet the tablet and the sp3
thanks so much again
i can not study and that bother me a lot cause i use my shift in my study thanks guys
Thats what I thought. You need to format both your USB drive and your Shift's HDD to NTFS. You should be asked what you want to format the HDD as when installing XP onto your Shift from the USB drive. I would also reccomend getting a clean version of XP Service Pack 2 as it seems to be about the most stable version to install from a USB drive. Download/get XP STOCK SP2, no modifications just the stock image, format your USB drive and Shift HDD as NTFS, and try again. Let me know.
thanks man so much i will do your advice and tell you
but i can not get real guide to format my usb to ntsf from windows thanks
Heres a sure fire way to format it as NTFS:
1-Open a command prompt.
2-Enter DISKPART
3-Enter LIST DISK
4-SELECT DISK (X)
CLEAN
CREATE PARTITION PRIMARY
SELECT PARTITION 1
ACTIVE
FORMAT FS=NTFS
Replace the (X) with the name of your thumbdrive under My Computer.
Wait for it to finish, then close that window and voila! Your USB drive is formatted as NTFS and ready for use.
sorry
i did it only show my 0 disk of my desktop hard eisk but never show me the usb
Can you format it through My Computer?
thanks man so much i already change my usb stick to 4g ntsf one and it work now great
i am now install the xp sp2 retail
when i finish what shal i do for make other stuff worki like wifi 3g fingerprint and touch screen???/
i did it.........................thanks guys
how to enable 3g and wirless now
and change display??
Just install the drivers from the HTC website and it should work.
thanks man i already done but problem with
intel graphic for xp
wireless
3g
control center
Download the graphics drivers from Intel. You MUST install the Control Center and ECD drivers before the WiFi drivers. After you install the Control Center, go into it and turn on WiFi, Windows will then (hopefully) find a driver and install it. And for 3G I don't know as I don't use my SIM slot on my Shift, I tether my HD2 via WiFi for mobile internet.
thanks so much man you are so good kind person for that great help and care
everything is working now well but the vga and 3g....any way thanks so much
Hello!
I just came here to say that I cannot get mount my A500 on ubuntu ! Is it the same for you? How can I fix the issue?
(by the way, congratulations for rooting the tablet !!)
Thanks!
Same here, I found the windows USB drivers on Acer's site but linux drivers were MIA...
The Iconia A500 uses MTP not mass storage (in fact I believe this is a function of honeycomb as the same applies for the Xoom). There are drivers for Windows and OSX to allow access but on Linux it is a lot harder.
I did find a site detailing how to get things working on a Xoom and used this information (modified for the A500) to get access once but since then I have not been able to get it to work at all (this is on Ubuntu 11.04 when the instructions detailed how to get it to work in 10.10).
Also Banshee is supposed to support MTP but again I have not been able to get the A500 to work with this (I have yet to really look into this though).
sux i also use linux. using ftp or actually putting a sd card in every time, its very annoying
They really should leave an option to enable "mass storage" as a method of exporting the internal flash memory. Not everyone wants what these companies think is best.
still no solution?
I tried to adapt the method for the Xoom but it didn't work either !! :'(
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still no solution?
I tried to adapt the method for the Xoom but it didn't work either !! :'(
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Apparently not. They stand on FOSS' shoulders, then crap on our with the added height.
I use adb to move stuff to my sdcard. Its quicker for me to use command line than a gui.
I already have adb installed and working for my phone so it just made sense for me.
doesn't you need driver to get the Acer A500 work properly?
I've already download the Android SDK but the only driver available is made for Windows
As folks have pointed out, the A500 does not have USB mounting support (yet) but does seem to have support for MTP. I found details on how to mount the Xoom onto Ubuntu Linux here. I have to assume these are the instructions that everyone is talking about above.
I am running 64 bit Ubuntu 10.10 (I unfortunately heard far too many dangerous things about 11.04 and it has become the only Ubuntu release I've not upgraded to). This instructions, modified for the Iconia A500, have worked for me. I've mounted and unmounted the device several times now.
I made some changes to the instructions. First my file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/51-honeycomb.rules. The entire file for me is:
ATTRS{idVendor}=="0502", ATTRS{idProduct}=="3341", ENV{ID_GPHOTO2}="1", ENV{GPHOTO2_DRIVER}="proprietary", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", MODE="0664", GROUP="audio"
I've made my mount point /media/iconia.
At this point I've not put the structure in fstab, but am mounting and unmounting manually with the commands:
mtpfs /media/xoom -o allow_other
and
fusermount -u /media/iconia
but, again, this is working for me.
My only question would be this: this gives me access to /mnt/sdcard on the Iconia tablet. How might I get access to /mnt/external_sd ?
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Somerville, MA
Well congratulations then !! I'il try with your config file, should be way better than mine
But i'm on 11.04 (and i have to say that i had problems at the beginning but i booted on a live cd and i was able to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.04 (wtf?!?) and it solves everything )
Hi all,
Thanks for the instructions. I followed them and now am able to see my A500 under Ubuntu 11.04 (64bit). However while I can see the directories on the tablet I can not see the files.
If I plug the tablet in and copy a file to the tablet from my PC the file is visible. If I then unmount and remove the tablet and reconnect it, the files do not show in Nautilus (Ubuntu default file manager).
However if I look at the files with a file manager on the A500 the files are there.
Any ideas?
I've tried playing around with the UDEV rules but no matter what I do I am unable to get past this.
I have also tried this on a 32bit 11.04 Ubuntu machine and obtained identical results.
In short, is anyone able to offer any suggestions that will allow me to view my files on the A500 in Ubuntu's Nautilus browser consistently?
Thanks for making this forum a great place to learn about the tablet!
jk
When i transfer mp3 file to /music, all album folders end up empty except for album-arts. All mp3 files is located in /music.
And if i transfer a *.avi file to /video all looks good, but when transfer is complete there is no file stored on the A500.
Why this, anyone?
A500 mounted as mtpfs.
Can you mount an external microsd as mass storage and have Ubuntu pick it up? If you can, theroretically couldn't you just symlink the internal memory to a "folder" on the microsd? That's what I've done on the Mytouch 4G to get internal storage access,
Nick
Thank you so much kinnerc! Now i can sync my music with Banshee. YAY!
I have recently gotten ubuntu working on my G2. I have ran into 3 problems though...
1) after rebooting my phone and going into terminal (to start ubuntu up) i type
"cd /sdcard/ubuntu"
then
"bootubuntu"
Which goes off without a hitch, but when i start up the VNC so i can use the GUI, i get a problem. all the commands go through but it makes a new localhost.. which gives me problems because A) i dont wanna setup a new VNC everytime i wanna use ubuntu and B) When the new localhost:2 or localhost:3 (depending on how many times i run "bootubuntu") i dont know the port its calling for or whatever information its needs for to connect to it with VNC. (to see what i mean by this look at the screenshot i took!
AND SECONDLY...
2) WHEN i can get into ubuntu (the only way ive gotten it to work is when i use it the first time) (ie. whenever i wanna use it i delete the ubuntu SD card contents and recopy them over and re-run "sh install.sh" this doesnt take long to run but it does take long to copy over 2 GB of stuff to the SD card) Which definately isnt the way its supposed to be used everytime i wanna use ubuntu. BUT BUT BUT, when i do this and it works, the keyboard inputs in ubuntu or completely screwed up! Ive yet to find the answer online so if anyone can help me this would be much appreciated, but not useful if i cant fix my first problem...
THIRDLY...
3) When i try to use USB storage after running ubuntu in VNC it simply wont connect, I have tryed and tryed again. The only way to fix this is to reboot my phone, which is when i found my problem with restarting and not being able successfully restart ubuntu without recopying the files over..
ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED!!!
This is hardly the place for this post. You would get a much better response if this was in the G2 and Desire Z Android Development Forum.
Either way, I'd say you should try creating a virtual partition on your SD card and see how that works out.
will do, mods, please delete this post!
Posting your thread in General, Q&A AND Dev will not get your results. It will get you banned.
Does anyone use the micro usb port? I have yet to find a use for it. I can't transfer files with it, charge with it nor are there any peripherals (that I know of) that can use it. I searched around but couldn't find much useful stuff on the port. All I found was this useless video:
**Ok I can't post the video because of more stupid forum rules but just go to youtube.com and append this after the url: /watch?v=1xBVu-IatDQ **
Anyway, if someone has ideas on how this port can be used I'm all ears... Thanks.
dq
It is a file transfer port. you plug a cable into it and into your PCs usb port. works like the ones on your phone.
Does it work for you? Because it doesn't for me. Nothing happens when I plug it into a computer. No automounting on the computer side or indication on the tablet that I can put it into "usb storage mode" like the 2.X Android versions do.
dq
don quixada said:
Does it work for you? Because it doesn't for me. Nothing happens when I plug it into a computer. No automounting on the computer side or indication on the tablet that I can put it into "usb storage mode" like the 2.X Android versions do.
dq
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What OS are you using on your computer, and have you installed the drivers for it?
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Does it work for you? Because it doesn't for me. Nothing happens when I plug it into a computer. No automounting on the computer side or indication on the tablet that I can put it into "usb storage mode" like the 2.X Android versions do.
dq
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Computer OS? i just plugged it into my Win7 system and it was there instantly. 3.0 shows up as a media device, which allows both the tablet and the computer to talk to the sdcard at the same time. So you won't see a mount prompt on the tablet. BTW my Incredible2 is running 2.3 and also lets me access the SD card on it and the computer at the same time.
I'm still using an old tiny xp and it worked fine for me just plugged it in and there it was
I tried Gentoo Linux and XP and neither worked. What drivers do I need to install?
I also have access to a Win7 system so I'll try that.
dq
Drivers from acer website.
I have adb installed should this not be enough?
You need none installed. ADB if its running in some form might be interfering. its just a basic driver in windows it uses.
I only run adb-server when I need it and not all the time. I thought that any needed drivers would have been installed when I installed adb.
For my Gentoo machine what should I do? It's not detected at all if I plug it in. My x10 mini and Nexus One are detected no problem and I can mount them and everything so what's up? Is there a kernel module that I need to build?
Thanks.
dq
I had to download these drivers for my xp netbook ,,
http://global-download.acer.com/GDF...A Tab&Step3=A500&OS=a05&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_6
I agree with Nova 5. The Windows drivers for USB come with the SDK and while you might not think you will have use for the SDK you will. It makes the process of installing custom ROM,s and Recovery Kernels a breeze. You download your zip flashes or recovery images to Win 7 and then you adb push your downloads to the tablet. The alternatives, unless soneone was nice enough to compile you an apk, which most advanced system developers don,t bother with, unless their app is destined for the massees throug Andriod market, is to install a terminal emulator and enter native Unix/Linux shell commands manually. If you aren't a shell cmd expert I suggest you immediatly download the latest Android SDK for Windows and start learning what it can do for you with just 2 or 3 adb push commands which can help you advoid 10's of lines of manually entered Linux shell commands that can do some real damage to your system if you are copying someone elses terminal emulator sh install instructions, don't understand what they do and make 1 simple typing mistake. With adb push you don't even have to get involved in Linux's complicated bit based permission changes to install something at the system level.
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Yes, well I only really use adb in the same capacity as what you describe-- to root a device. After that busybox can be installed and I can either ssh into the device (which I prefer) or use the terminal on the device itself.
But my problem is the detection of the device once it is plugged into my Linux box. I'm not sure if I need a special driver for that and I'd rather not aimlessly search through the kernel config in order to build one (I've done that before and it's painful!). It's good to know that one can mount it on an external device and still use it simultaneously though. That will save me time in trying to fiddle around with settings in the tablet itself...
dq
don quixada said:
I have adb installed should this not be enough?
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If you are not able to transfer files Try enabling usb debugging before connecting to pc.
If the tab is not in the usb devices list and it doesn't show up as an unknown device, you might want to try another usb cable. Or another port if you have the Windows and Linux on the same machine and you are trying to connect on the same port.
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gradyzero said:
I agree with Nova 5. The Windows drivers for USB come with the SDK and while you might not think you will have use for the SDK you will. It makes the process of installing custom ROM,s and Recovery Kernels a breeze. You download your zip flashes or recovery images to Win 7 and then you adb push your downloads to the tablet. The alternatives, unless soneone was nice enough to compile you an apk, which most advanced system developers don,t bother with, unless their app is destined for the massees throug Andriod market, is to install a terminal emulator and enter native Unix/Linux shell commands manually. If you aren't a shell cmd expert I suggest you immediatly download the latest Android SDK for Windows and start learning what it can do for you with just 2 or 3 adb push commands which can help you advoid 10's of lines of manually entered Linux shell commands that can do some real damage to your system if you are copying someone elses terminal emulator sh install instructions, don't understand what they do and make 1 simple typing mistake. With adb push you don't even have to get involved in Linux's complicated bit based permission changes to install something at the system level.
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Not nearly what I was saying. Not even close enough that a bomb would touch it.
Simple answer is my vista and win7 systems accessed the iconia as a media player device requiring no drivers as they are a common system driver. My only comment about ADB was that it might be interfering if it somehow was left running in the background.
I'm not sure what the problem is, but I had to play around with the settings and plug it in several times and finally it showed up. Now I plug it in and the dialog for auto play shows up instantly. When I choose to view files, I get a window with two drives. One is the internal storage and the other is the sd card.
sandiegoan said:
I'm not sure what the problem is, but I had to play around with the settings and plug it in several times and finally it showed up. Now I plug it in and the dialog for auto play shows up instantly. When I choose to view files, I get a window with two drives. One is the internal storage and the other is the sd card.
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Sometimes mine gets a bit wonky as well. Every now and then, I'll plug it in, get the windows dialogue box asking me what I want to do. I open it up and the box is blank, no drives, nothing. Unplug it, wait a few seconds, pop it back in, and everything is OK. No rhyme or reason, and it doesn't happen all the time.
Quick trick for win7 .
Plug in the device.go into device manager delete its entry and the USB controller it resides on.unplug device.install driver from acer web site.then try the device again.
This works on several USB type issues
Good luck if you don't understand don't try