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Froyo for SGS at the end of october

Samsung_mobiles twittered some News to the relasedate of froyo for the sgs. If this i posteted elsewhre please delete.
"Samsung_Mobiles
All our users who are waiting for froyo , please note that froyo is expected to launch by end of this month. No exact dates are confirmed."
http://twitter.com/Samsung_Mobiles/status/26579290440

The tweet is quite clear yes. However Samsung_Mobiles is not a verified twitter account so there's no telling if they are indeed Samsung India or just some random account so be careful with accepting those claims as absolute truth.
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Sorry didnt know and havent looked that Samsung_mobiles is not verified. But youre right, and before there will be great discussions.. Please close this thread, dear mods.

well i do not believe on any news now..samsung has been known for its customer annoyance syndrome regarding updates for long. better try cutom roms.. coz they r big time liars.. dt b surprised if they say "end of november" at end of october...like before

Oh stop whining, it took HTC 9 (!) months to give their early Hero customers an upgrade from 1.5 to 2.1. The Galaxy S got released with 2.1 and it's not even been on the market for half a year and they're obviously very busy working on an update.

daenney said:
Oh stop whining, it took HTC 9 (!) months to give their early Hero customers an upgrade from 1.5 to 2.1. The Galaxy S got released with 2.1 and it's not even been on the market for half a year and they're obviously very busy working on an update.
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Ah, because HTC was slow to update Hero we must shut up our mouths?

Samsung's promise is worth nothing. Froyo is when we see it.

I would like to nag but why should I? Rather let them take some time to polish it up a bit since this will be the last official update available for our phone (damn)
So please just take it as a man, say; "oh i can wait a couple of weeks more" cos by the end of October you'll receive a new phone, eventhough we're tricked with merely new software
meanwhile, kinda happy with the unofficial froyo =/

No companies promises are worth anything generally..

Originally Samsung said that Froyo update will be available THIS YEAR.
Not end of september/october/november.
I do have official Froyo update (it's a jp3 version but I still got it at the official service) and still waiting for the final release via Kies.
So as far as I'm concerned, Samsung kept their promise. No complaints from me.

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Ah, because HTC was slow to update Hero we must shut up our mouths?
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No, I'm just giving you some perspective.

opica said:
Originally Samsung said that Froyo update will be available THIS YEAR.
Not end of september/october/november.
I do have official Froyo update (it's a jp3 version but I still got it at the official service) and still waiting for the final release via Kies.
So as far as I'm concerned, Samsung kept their promise. No complaints from me.
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And originally Samsung promised GPS fix for September, where is the fix?

Oletros said:
And originally Samsung promised GPS fix for September, where is the fix?
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Link to official statement?

There's so many roms out there from multiple developers that I think froyo can wait and bring out a polished 2.2
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opica said:
Link to official statement?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/13/samsung-commits-to-september-updates-for-galaxy-s-gps-woes/
And for Froyo
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/30/samsung-confirms-galaxy-s-will-get-froyo-in-september/
And in Smsung Spain Facebook page they promised an update for September.

There's nothing official about statements on Twitter or Facebook as long as there's no press release to accompany them.
There's a crapload of work that goes into managing a ROM release cycle and decently testing every update, something they might be inclined to do better this time after all the trouble they got from the original release.
Besides, it says 'Expected', not "Will be released on $date and you can quote us on it".

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WB

Stuck on DI18

Hey all. I am curious, are you guys all getting Froyo by doing a manual update??? I am trying the UPDATE FIRMWARE option (currently on DI18) and getting a message that I am on the latest version.

If you search the forums a bit you will find your answer.
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Milkman, I'm in the same boat - been searching forums, seems like folks who want OTA will have to wait.
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dude above is hinting for the manual update of the OTA released update. I am on 18 also waiting for OTA. If I didn't have hw id go for it. I just dont have time if i brick my phone in the process.

Thanks Big. I wish the other reply was more helpful, like maybe a link or something. I love how people tell you to search when you already did...
I may just do the update using clockwork, but was hoping to do OTA.
I will holdout a little longer to see if it magically appears on OTA.

The comment was referring to the fact that this has been extensively covered already in the forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861213 has the instructions on how to apply the OTA update to a stock Epic.
The official OTA hasn't been released by Sprint/Samsung yet, DK28 is just the most likely final release.
The instructions above will show you how to update, I updated my wife's stock Epic last night with no issues.

thank you elite, as a new android user this isn't really apparent, even from the bulk of that thread - that this isn't an official OTA sprint release.
There are folks that are reporting they got froyo from an OTA update, which counters your information. I wonder how true or untrue that is.

If sprint hasnt released the official froyo then why are users getting it OTA. I call bs on your statement.

yep, I second that call mbkowns.

The OTA was being pushed to specific test phones, with the Hardware version D700.0.4
No one has determined how those got in the wild, almost everyone has version .5
The update was only pushed to the .4 phones, again this is all in the dev section.

if that is the case, then how do folks know that its the 'official' froyo release? I can see that the dl link is from an authoritative source, but its not telling.
i.e. if its not available to all subscribers then its not a release, right?

It is not the official release, just a possible release candidate that was sent to the .4 phones only.
Basically, a guy last night noticed that Di18 updated to DK28 and posted it here. after several hundred posts, we all realized that it was only for .4 phones. Those are supposedly developmental phones that got released with the mainstream .5 phones. How? We do not know.
But since it was an OTA for those phones, a ton of folks have assumed that it was the final official release.
Either way, I ODINed my old DG27, got gps fix in Maps, then ODINed the latest. It's not a bad process, just touchy, and since then I've enjoyed the best Froyo ROM yet.
I hope this helps.

bigshark7 said:
if its not available to all subscribers then its not a release, right?
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It is not the official release from sprint to the general public, it is a release candidate that they will let devs test for a few days. If devs report no issues they will start the official OTA release.
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thats great info, I fear however that due to the reportings of xda and engadget, etc.. that most folks will or have interpreted this event as an official sprint release of froyo. I am in no particular hurry for froyo on my epic but as this news has panned out it has caught my and others attention in an apparent dubious way - surely due the reportings and not in any way of the xda members.
if this is true, this is an important point that folks should be aware of *before* doing their own joyous upgrade - meaning that if sprint didn't bless this code they shouldn't expect it to be the final real thing.

how soon till you think 2.3 is leaked

we all know its going to happen but how soon till we see the leaks

Leaks? It's already officially out. Nexus One's are receiving the update as we speak. As for an EVO specific leak from HTC/Sprint, who knows..I'm sure the devs will have something out soon if there aren't any major hardware changes / requirements.

SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1

This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.

CheesyNutz said:
SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
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I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
Nexus One owners feeling a little Nexus S envy can breathe a little easier -- we're hearing that Android 2,3 Gingerbread is being pushed out to the N1 as we speak. We'd imagine that all the slick new features that don't require new hardware (like NFC support) will be there, and we're definitely interested in playing with this built-in WiFi calling stack.
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the latest ota pushed to the nexus was just a minor update i don't think it was 2.3

Sirchuk said:
I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
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That might have been an old link where the nexus one got a security update and people jumped the gun on calling gingerbread

Looks like Engadget was wrong and pulled the story. Nobody can confirm that 2.3 is out it seems, though some have tried to get their N1's to update.
Way to go Engadget, wrong information with no clarification. At least post a "Oops, we were wrong" update or something.
The N1 forums are saying it will be out on/around the 16th.
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Think they heard me:
Update: Looks like our flood of tips came from people who were seeing their N1s get a different, less-interesting update -- we'll let you know when the actual 2.3 update roll out. Ah, the heady optimism of hope.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.

donatom3 said:
One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.

Award Tour said:
Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.

drmacinyasha said:
I'm going to say this once to head off the countless sheep who will ask...
Do not ask when Gingerbread will make it to the EVO.
Seriously, how the hell would any of us know? We're not psychics, we're not secret HTC/Sprint/Google/CIA/Mafia/Former KGB/NSA employees, we can't predict the future, so why on God's green Earth would you ask us?
Shut up, sit down, twiddle your thumbs, and wait for a press release from Sprint, HTC, Google, etc. announcing that Gingerbread will or will not be ported to the EVO. If you really want Gingerbread, go help Team Douche port it to be CyanogenMod 7. That's the most guaranteed way to get it to our phones.
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10 characters.

donatom3 said:
Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
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Not sure if there's any confusion with what I think I read from your post but.. I'm talking about the AOSP source not the HTC source. That'll probably take a month or so after the Nexus One OTA to be released and then another month or so before CM releases a RC of CM7/2.3.

apollooff320 said:
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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windows phone? are you on crack?

I'm guessing you won't see a Sprint/HTC Gingerbread ROM until sometime next year. Rumor has the source code being released when the Nexus S ships which is allegedly on Dec 16. Expect AOSP based Gingerbread ROMs to start rolling out around then and an Official Sprint ROM after sometime well after that, after its been thoroughly QA'd.

A few random thoughts. Would appreciate your feedback.

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I think it is insulting how Samsung released the Froyo update. This was not a mass update... this was a "lets shut the people complaining up update!"
Updating through Kies ALWAYS = people posting about problems/issues.
Why is it they could not do an OTA? I personally assume it's because it was not ready (hence the KA7 leak) and THAT will be an OTA for the masses to froyo (or an update to those who used Kies). This is my assumption.
But shame on Samsung/T-Mobile for this...
I would STRONGLY urge new people to NOT update to froyo via kies. I WOULD encourage rooting your phone and flashing the new custom roms that are based off the newest builds (even newer than KA6 which was the "official update").
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I think a thread dedicated for the new ROMs in the Q&A section would be awesome. Consider it an "ask a dumb question and expect a quick answer" thread. The less crap/clutter from the development section the better.
I imagine hardly any posts in the development section are of benefit to the developer.
I feel the Nero V4 sticky is a good example. Though I feel a sticky is a bit much.
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Anyone want to create a thread (or show me one) with all of the stock system apps attached? It would ne nice for those times when someone is asking for them....
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Does anyone have the skills to make the dropdown "mute" button also mute Media. I hate that currently it will mute everything but media... as it inevitably always leads to me making noise when I think I am muted.
I now use Widgetsoid to mute my phone completely.
Thanks!

I don't care how they released froyo, as long as they also release source code soon since it was an "official" release.
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dcpetterson said:
I don't care how they released froyo, as long as they also release source code soon since it was an "official" release.
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They have 60 days. Should not take that long. I just question why it was not an ota. Consider me skeptical of Samsung.
Want source? Request it: @SamsungMobileUS should work.

I agree that this was to shut people up, however, as a person who hasn't flashed a rom yet, I commend them for it. I really didn't know what I was missing, and if KA6 is laggy, I can't wait to see what isn't laggy. I'd like to root my phone next, but I have no idea if I'm hardware locked, so I'm inspired to do more reading.
Mini Kies is not difficult to use. People just don't read.
ETA: I agree that there will eventually be an OTA for fixes to KA6 and for people who did not even know about this.

mrsbelpit said:
I agree that this was to shut people up, however, as a person who hasn't flashed a rom yet, I commend them for it. I really didn't know what I was missing, and if KA6 is laggy, I can't wait to see what isn't laggy. I'd like to root my phone next, but I have no idea if I'm hardware locked, so I'm inspired to do more reading.
Mini Kies is not difficult to use. People just don't read.
ETA: I agree that there will eventually be an OTA for fixes to KA6 and for people who did not even know about this.
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Check and make sure that your phone is hardware locked now as I know that one of the ROMs took care of this issue.
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Isn't it that updating through kies is faster than ota? People wouldn't have to wait, unless you're a mac user. The JI6 took forever for them to send it. I waited like 2 weeks then i just flashed it through odin because i was really tired of waiting.
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Personally, I do believe that KA6 was suddenly delivered via Kies to shut us all up.
However, I don't really mind how updates are released. They don't have to be OTA. As long as Samsung releases timely updates, even if it is via Kies, then I will be a happy customer. (Oh and they still need to fix the hardware gps flaw)
If they release Gingerbread via kies in a timely manner, I will even somewhat forgive them, but I still will not buy another Samsung made product again for a very long time if ever.

im glad atleast samsung decided to give us froyo... i mean now we can get a little bit of work on our roms since we have a official now.
but i think that "official" rom was made in 2 days, because if you notice, its laggy as hell, and the only difference is theres wifi calling and a few other apps, thats IT.

s15274n said:
They have 60 days. Should not take that long. I just question why it was not an ota. Consider me skeptical of Samsung.
Want source? Request it: @SamsungMobileUS should work.
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I have the same opinion. I believe this was just a "shut them up" maneuver and the easier softer way for them to do it. Also from what I have read in the threads there seems to be a number of people with problems from the Keis fiasco.

xriderx66 said:
im glad atleast samsung decided to give us froyo... i mean now we can get a little bit of work on our roms since we have a official now.
but i think that "official" rom was made in 2 days, because if you notice, its laggy as hell, and the only difference is theres wifi calling and a few other apps, thats IT.
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Well, it actually has the Dalvik Jit Compiler which somewhat improves the Hummingbird cpu performance, there is also Flash player.

SamsungVibrant said:
Well, it actually has the Dalvik Jit Compiler which somewhat improves the Hummingbird cpu performance, there is also Flash player.
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well i guess all that lag takes away from the dalvik jit
also the flash, we've had for like months so you know,

S15274N Great Posting
I agree on your general Ideas. I really like the Idea of posting a fast Q & A
I like the Idea of Making a thread that lists all the stock apps (with apk attached etc.) for those who want that sort of thing.
And, I agree Samsung is just trying to avoid a Gun Fight with the customers. We customers Really are making it hard for Tmo and Samsung to continue their personal "*****-match"
We need to continue to Keep the Pressure on Samsung to keep them adhering to the open source licensing agreement thet agree to when installing Android.

Yeah, I was not trying to say I am upset they released froyo... but more picking on them for HOW they released it. They know 99% of Vibrant users are not even going to know it was released, and if they did, they wont bother with Kies.
Them releasing source will be huge. I hope they release it as fast as they did for the canadian fascinate once froyo was released for it. I'm still a skeptic of Samsung and expect a future release to be the next "official froyo"

s15274n said:
Yeah, I was not trying to say I am upset they released froyo... but more picking on them for HOW they released it. They know 99% of Vibrant users are not even going to know it was released, and if they did, they wont bother with Kies.
Them releasing source will be huge. I hope they release it as fast as they did for the canadian fascinate once froyo was released for it. I'm still a skeptic of Samsung and expect a future release to be the next "official froyo"
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they'll probably release it on like the 60th day waiting till its like 11:59PM then they upload. lol.

Based off your #1 statment I can only say that this is exactly why they released the "official update". The thing is after the first rumor was released and the **** hit the fan causing multiple threads and 1,000's of post, among other things, there was a small thread and article that was covered and only happen to receive less then 50 post that stated:
The same credible source that gave the first rumor added the reason why samsung and/or tmobile haven't given the update Is because samsung is charging the carriers for OS updates. This means samsung was expecting each carrier to pay per handset sold(later to be denied by samsung).
You can have your own take on samsung or tmo, but the remainder stays the same. That is if the sites which released the rumors spoke to the same source and one rumor is true, then possibly the second Could be also. This also shows 2 other things that will forever fault the android community and the Internet alike. The mob mentality and the feeling of some type of entitlement will cloud the truth or fuel rumors and/or other things that none of use are entitled to know or understand.
One good thing that has come out of this is the fact that now samsung is responsible to release the 2.2 source.via the GPL. Going forward id say Let's try and not let this happen with the real ota, if that ever really happens... lol.
Moral of the story:
Becareful what you wish for. You might just get it... kinda.

Samsung 2.2 source

Don't start a flame war.
I wont be dealing with it.
Any news on when Samsung will be releasing their source code?
Wasn't there a certain amount of time they have to release the codes after they release the rom? Was it 60 days?

I heard they released it for the captivate, ours can't be too far behind.

I didn't see the US captivate source unless I just entered in the wrong model number.

They must release it in like 30 days.
They dont have any othr choice

eunkipark92 said:
Don't start a flame war.
I wont be dealing with it.
Any news on when Samsung will be releasing their source code?
Wasn't there a certain amount of time they have to release the codes after they release the rom? Was it 60 days?
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From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?

ipeench said:
From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
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Yes. Source code doesn't look like it will be released soon. When it finally is, I'm pretty sure we will have 2.3.2 working.
CM 7 for Galaxy S is pretty close to done. Codeworkx just posted a video of CM 7 Gingerbread running on the I9000 pretty flawlessly.
It's here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2DsF7VT3ms
Krylon360 is working out the bugs on a TW build of Gingerbread as well (its working, just buggy). And Eugene seems to have figured out the battery drain from the I9000 kernels so if he has indeed, a LOT of I9000 things will be ported. This coming month is my expectation we will see fully functional Gingerbread on the Vibrant.
The source code for Froyo won't be relevant soon really. . .

Official isn't how the copyright is worded. Its 60 days from when you release. Putting something on Kies, an official source of software from Samsung counts as a release. Doesn't have to be OTA, doesn't have to be delivered by UPS, all that matters is it is released through an official channel, which it has been.

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I didn't see the US captivate source unless I just entered in the wrong model number.
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I think I read the rogers captivate, and the armani branded captivate source were released.

How long did it take for the i9000 2.2 Source to be released?

ipeench said:
From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
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Ka6 has to be the official cause I remember sammy saying that they released the official 2.2 update on fb
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