Hey Guys,
I'm contemplating picking up the Samsung Focus to replace my HD7 but I'm confused as to whether the phone will work on Fido without having to unlock it?
I have an O2 version of the HD7 but really want a 3G Windows Phone and ideally would like to have MMS working as well. I know by unlocking the phone i'll lose the function altogether until we can figure out how to access the settings in the phone manually.
If anybody can fill me in if the Samsung Focus will work flawlessly on Fido without having to unlock or not that would be great!
Thanks!!
Worked perfect for me. No unlocking required.
Awesome! Can you confirm if MMS works on the phone too?
Thanks!!
mms
Why is everybody so worried about mms working or not, you have a phone that is really only good with data, so just email the pic if mms doesn't work who doesnt have email now days.
It's not that MMS is important but it IS a feature of the phone. One that is handicapped from the unlocking process.
It is also a feature that many would still like the ability to have as it's easier to send a quick MMS to someone instead of sending them an email.
Especially if the receiver doesn't have push email.
Hopefully the January update addresses the lack of a configuration menu for these settings and gets rid of the problem altogether!
I'm going to be doing the same thing too. Switching from HTC HD7 for a Samsung Focus. From what I understand the Rogers phone will work with no issue on FIDO. It's great because FIDO never has a good selection of phones.
I'll be over to the Samsung Focus forum more one I sell the HTC HD 7 and get the Focus.
Awesome! I think i'll be picking up my Focus tomorrow. You get it free on a 3 year contract if you buy a samsung laptop so I can kill two birds with one stone picking it up!!
I hope it's everything people say it's supposed to be. I really like the HD7 but hate that it doesn't work on 3G with Fido!!
I figure the Focus is the next best thing as people have been raving about the phone and the onboard memory versus the media card memory. Having the UI run even faster and smoother is going to be an awesome plus for the focus!!
Just wanted to fill you all in with a quick update...
The rogers focus works flawlessly with fido but still is unable to send mms messages as it's locked to the rogers settings for that feature!
Loving the phone otherwise!!!!
Hi guys, for those of u who have used the rogers samsung focus with fido, are you guys having the same issue as with the galaxy phone where the sms time stamp is off by 5hrs or not??
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Not having any time stamp issues on the Rogers Focus on Fido.
I think it's another one of those small issues created by the unlocking process.
malik2k1 said:
Not having any time stamp issues on the Rogers Focus on Fido.
I think it's another one of those small issues created by the unlocking process.
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sms timestamp is not from unlocking its from the rom and the way the network does sms, telus/bell handle sms different than fido/rogers thats why bellus phones usually have timestamp issue on fido. I understand the deal with mms but its no deal breaker.
It's just a shame, because for some reason we can't access the root menu on the rogers samsung focus to changed the mms settings
I no it's not a deal breaker, but buying a cellphone fullprice would be great to have all the functionality working in some way
Hey... I'm looking to get a Focus now (had the HTC HD7). Any quirks with Focus on FIDO ? Looks like SMS might have time stamp issue. MMS not working no big deal. Tethering would be great if anyone has the settings. Anything else as a known issue or quirk? I'll post any if I come across them but if there are any others I don't want to repeat them. Over all does 3G work correctly (fast) ?
PaullikesWINMO said:
Hey... I'm looking to get a Focus now (had the HTC HD7). Any quirks with Focus on FIDO ? Looks like SMS might have time stamp issue. MMS not working no big deal. Tethering would be great if anyone has the settings. Anything else as a known issue or quirk? I'll post any if I come across them but if there are any others I don't want to repeat them. Over all does 3G work correctly (fast) ?
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No quirks as far as I know. In fact I was surprised, I just poped in my sim in it, it work right out of the box, no unlocking, nothing. I just had to specify the APN. No timestamp issue. MMS doesn't work I can't get to the root menu to change the settings.
As for tethering, you'd just have to go in the diag menu and change the setting for it. Haven't tried it, but got to the menu where I saw the option for it.
And yes, 3G is pretty darn fast. I mean IE isn't AS good as the browser in android or iphone (yet) but still very good!.
I'm really glad I chose this phone instead of an iPhone!
Okay.. going to BestBuy now as I called and they say they are selling for $550. Where is the diag menu you speak of and then once there what are the FIDO settings?
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Okay.. going to BestBuy now as I called and they say they are selling for $550. Where is the diag menu you speak of and then once there what are the FIDO settings?
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Cool good luck
I had no luck at futureshop!
Anyway!
You can see all the codes there (some aren't working for some reason...):
http://www.win7phones.org/forum/samsung-focus-faq/145-samsung-focus-diagnosis-codes.html
And you can use the following procedure to tether (just use the fido or rogers credentials):
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/samsung-focus-does-tethering-after-all-on-windows-phone-7
and the apn settings for Fido are:
fido-core-appl1.apn
(no user or password)
Enjoy!
Best Buy wouldn't let me buy the phone off contract for some reason so hoepfully you'll have better luck then I did.
Also, Samsung just updated their Network profile app which lets users configure the whole phone automatically to their carrier provided the phone is unlocked. Can anyone confirm that this has worked for them and all functions such as MMS and what not are working on the phone?
I can't try it out yet as my phone is still locked and I'm waiting for my unlock code by email. As soon as it arrives i'll test it out and let you guys know!
One weird thing about the app, it blocks the app from working if you're on a contract with your provider. Not sure if this is due to the phone being locked or if it's read through the IMEI. Eitherway, I hope it works.
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Best Buy wouldn't let me buy the phone off contract for some reason so hoepfully you'll have better luck then I did.
Also, Samsung just updated their Network profile app which lets users configure the whole phone automatically to their carrier provided the phone is unlocked. Can anyone confirm that this has worked for them and all functions such as MMS and what not are working on the phone?
I can't try it out yet as my phone is still locked and I'm waiting for my unlock code by email. As soon as it arrives i'll test it out and let you guys know!
One weird thing about the app, it blocks the app from working if you're on a contract with your provider. Not sure if this is due to the phone being locked or if it's read through the IMEI. Eitherway, I hope it works.
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Let me (and us ) know when you unlock your focus how it goes. As mine I didn't had to unlock to so that it works with my sim.
If that app solves the MMS issue and so on I don't mind spending the fee to unlock the focus!
(where did you get yours unlocked?)
Hey Guys!
So I used the website www dot theunlock dot ca to get my unlock code which cost $10 US. It was quick and the code was available on the site a few hours after payment. I entered the unlock code in the phone and it is now fully unlocked.
I ran the network app provided by samsung and it opened (Finally). This was already a good sign as the app originally wouldn't open on a locked phone. Anyways, I went to switch the profile and the only profile available on the damn app was Rogers. I'm not sure why this has happened but Samsung needs to input a profile for other carriers for the Canadian market.
This app hasn't really solved the unlock issue for users in Canada which kinda sucks but I hope they will soon enough!
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Hey Guys!
So I used the website www dot theunlock dot ca to get my unlock code which cost $10 US. It was quick and the code was available on the site a few hours after payment. I entered the unlock code in the phone and it is now fully unlocked.
I ran the network app provided by samsung and it opened (Finally). This was already a good sign as the app originally wouldn't open on a locked phone. Anyways, I went to switch the profile and the only profile available on the damn app was Rogers. I'm not sure why this has happened but Samsung needs to input a profile for other carriers for the Canadian market.
This app hasn't really solved the unlock issue for users in Canada which kinda sucks but I hope they will soon enough!
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Well thanks for the heads up!
now that it's unlock are you able to go in the root menu by any chance?
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I had a Bell LG Quantum, but always had my heart set on a Focus. Now i have one and am having some issues with the profile setting on the bell network.
If someone won't mind, could you please either take a photo(preferred, more info) or post info from the following:
1.Go to the phone app
2.Dial ##634# and click Send
3.When prompted for a password type 277634#*#
4.You should now be at "Factory Menu"
5.Choose "Engineer Menu"
6.Choose "Other Setting"
7.Choose "view current profile"
In particular, i'm looking for which of the following APN is listed in the phone,
pda.bell.ca
or
inet.bell.ca
if you see either please let me know, and what it's listed beside,
Thanks so much.
from what I can read - what tiny print - it's referring to pda.bell.ca
it for sure pda.bell.ca just checked it now. I have a question, I bought this phone as an "unlocked" bell phone but I am a rogers customer. The phone functionality is working but I cannot get the data (3g) to work. What should I do, I assume I have to change this very setting. Please help!
Let me know if you need other information or the entire xml.
EDIT: I found a solution for making the Rogers data work.
Got into the above mentioned menu:
1) turned ADP on.
2) remove pda.bell.ca replaced it with internet.com
3g seems to work fine now !
However I don't get callerID from Bell customers anymore. Isn't that funny? What should I change to have caller id functional again?
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However I don't get callerID from Bell customers anymore. Isn't that funny? What should I change to have caller id functional again?
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Aha!! Someone else with the same problem! Finally!
I, too, have an unlocked Quantum, but mine's from AT&T and I have the same problem with inconsistent callerID's coming through. I'm pretty sure it's not a problem with your phone though, since I also have an HTC Surround unlocked from Telus (now on Rogers) that has the same problem. And it's nothing wrong with your SIM card, since I guarantee putting that SIM in another, non-WP7 phone will have your caller-id working perfectly.
I haven't found any 'setting' to get this working, and as I say, it's inconsistent, with some landline phones working -- some not, some cell phones working -- most not. I'm still trying to chase this one down.
I think the call display function has something to do with name display. I believe I remember reading this in another thread somewhere.
I don't have name display on my account and I have 0 issues with caller ID
I'm using an unlocked AT&T Quantum.
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I think the call display function has something to do with name display. I believe I remember reading this in another thread somewhere.
I don't have name display on my account and I have 0 issues with caller ID
I'm using an unlocked AT&T Quantum.
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Hmmmm, interesting.. I'll have to check on my account and see if I have Name Display.
When someone calls you, what do you see? Just the number of the caller?
Thanks.
If I don't have the number saved it shows the number.
By the way has anyone gotten mms to work?
I've tried googling and searching xda but can't seem to get it to work.
I have this same issue
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If I don't have the number saved it shows the number.
By the way has anyone gotten mms to work?
I've tried googling and searching xda but can't seem to get it to work.
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My unlocked AT&T Quantum phone only uses 3G with Rogers and my sms times when received are always coming in with the incorrect time. I looked at the Bell unlocked Quantum and it has a different model# and firmware version, which makes me frustrated seeing as my friend's works fine with everything. What's the point of an unlocked phone if it can't use HSPA on another network? Is it possible to flash the phone to the Bell's firmware? I feel defeated
I bought a AT&T Samsung Focus for super cheap. I have the data running just fine and fast, however, it seems that MMS is a big pain in the butt. I can't get it to work at all. Anyone use Chevron WP7 in the past to get to the hidden MMS settings? I tried to load up ChevronWP7 but that it doesn't seem to work anymore either...
Samsung has updated its own Network profile tool in the market that allows you to set up the MMS settings. There is no need to hack your phone anymore.
I wish this was the case... however... I bought a phone which appears to still be "locked" to AT&T's network. The issue is the used phone may be connected to some kind of "AT&T" Contract? I got the ChevronWP7 NetProfile.xap to work but it's pretty much the same thing - just doesn't work.
yep something is still locked in the at&t focus. have one in new zealand and the samsung network profile tool only shows me the at&t profile to select from. MMS doesn't works for me either.
Alright this is not just me. The MMS APN is locked away somewhere... probably won't have the MMS unlock without some tweaking from the community for 10 months. Samsung has gone on file saying they were "protecting" AT&T and other providers.
Yeah, same here. Using my focus in Norway and everything works perfectly except for MMS (and of course the marketplace which we don't have over here yet).
Haven't been able to find a solution to this anywhere. MS is aware of this and says it's on their prio-list, but Samsung says that it's designed for use with a specific carrier.
Yes... I'm stuck here too without Chevron. Phone is unlocked (I paid for unlock code) but there is no FIDO network name to choose from for the MMS setting.
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I wish this was the case... however... I bought a phone which appears to still be "locked" to AT&T's network. The issue is the used phone may be connected to some kind of "AT&T" Contract? I got the ChevronWP7 NetProfile.xap to work but it's pretty much the same thing - just doesn't work.
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I got mine unlocked. I'm using it on Telus.
The only way I got chevron to work was after I had reformat windows. I reinstalled an older version of zune and it worked.
Not exactly the best solution but the only that worked for me.
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Alright this is not just me. The MMS APN is locked away somewhere... probably won't have the MMS unlock without some tweaking from the community for 10 months. Samsung has gone on file saying they were "protecting" AT&T and other providers.
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pardon my ignorance, I have never used the function, but isn't there an "add apn" on the bottom of the cellular menu in settings? what does this do?
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pardon my ignorance, I have never used the function, but isn't there an "add apn" on the bottom of the cellular menu in settings? what does this do?
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The APN is only for Data. MMS is actually a cell hone function (like SMS) and it seems without Chevron, there is no way to change the settings.
So I had the AT&T Samsung Focus unlocked and running on the Telus Network for a week now. Wanted to give my update for those thinking about getting a Samsung Focus from the endless pool of AT&T Samsung Focuses in the states.
First of all I wanted to get a Samsung Focus here in Canada but Rogers has the market locked up tight. I couldn't get Future Shop to sell me one so since I live in Vancouver and my family lives in Seattle I simply hopped over the boarder, got on Craigslist, and had someone sell me a unit for $300.
The Good:
Everything about the Focus is practically good ;-) - I had the LG Optimus 7 and the Samsung pretty much beats it soundly - the screen, speaker, and weight beat the LG. The LG has build quality however... it's just a better built unit. Voice quality is about equal with the LG although I was say LG has the slightly better voice quality overall. Data worked perfectly by just establishing the APN settings to Telus.
The Bad:
*No MMS (this is a real downer...) Microsoft doesn't have an APN Server section in the OS to address MMS Servers... this is a real bummer if you ask me.
Hopefully Microsoft will address the APN MMS concerns in the update incoming. Unlike HTC, Samsung seems to giving users less control of their phones and capping their market. While HTC has pretty much sucked on hardware they have been absolutely fanastic on extensibility, flexibility with their software. Samsung attempted to address the APN issue by releasing an APN editor but because AT&T and Rogers have exclusives the Profile.XML pretty much does not allow for Telus or other carriers to work in the NA market. I can't see Samsung changing this and unfortunately with Samsung selling so well Microsoft probably will not address the APN issue with a fix of their own (to do so would probably make the OEMs upset... particuarly Samsung.)
Regardless of my texting challenges (with are a tad bit irritating...) the Focus is a beautiful phone.
I'm a bit new to this and just had a few questions, I know a few years ago Telus would only authorize Telus sold phones (Telus registered IMIE #s). I guess now with sims they will authorize any compatible phones?
I'm currently a Telus customer with a CDMA phone (no sim), so to do this would I just find a Samsung Focus, unlock it, buy a telus sim and then call Telus and give them the sim#?
I've seen a lot of posts about how you can't unlock the Focus to use it on a different network...at least the AT&T version....how exactly did you unlock it, if you don't mind me asking?
To unlock Focus:
Buy a code on eBay (bought mine from this seller, very fast and worked first try! http://myworld.ebay.ca/nckzone)
Put new SIM in and boot up. Enter unlock code, you are unlocked!
To fix MMS and Data
Unlock using Chevron WP7 (Tutorial here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938106)
On that tutorial page, download and install the Samsung Tools application. Run it and check all the options. Phone will reboot working 100% on the new network. Worked for me perfectly!
of course that only works on some networks. Im on a smaller gsm carrier in Wisconsin, with pretty simple settings for MMS and the chevron unlock, setting change, and reboot do nothing for me with APN or MMS. Have to change my APN manually still and no way to change MMS settings yet that I'm aware of...So still looking further into OTA provisioning and xml profile loading if possible.
Hi I've just bought an omnia 7 which is uk t-mobile branded and sim locked. I would like to debrand it and unlock it so I can put my own sim in. I've done a bit of searching and found a page with all the firmwares on. Am I right in thinking that I need to install the XXJL3 uk retail rom to become unbranded? Would I then need to update to mango through zune?
Also I would like to unlock it. Is the best way through imei unlock? I've seen a few people selling this through ebay and at £8 seems a good deal
Cheers
Hi Rob77,
My Omnia is/was a T-Mobile branded phone when I got it last October.
I used these guys to get it unlocked, http://www.unlocksamsung.co.uk/
It took less than a hour.
The XXJL3 Retail ROM is also the one I used and Yes Zune will give you the rest of the updates.
Two things to bear in mind before you start.
1. If you want to (DEV) unlock your Omnia (i.e. Sideload Apps)
Then unlock it straight after you change the ROM. As there isn't a way to do it from Mango (yet )
2. You won't be able to use MMS on GiffGaff.
Theres no way to set the MMS settings on WP7 and GiffGaff have O2 Pre-Pay setting on there sims, so the phone reads and sets the wrong info.
Thanks ZaForD for the excellent advice. I don't get the phone till tomorrow but ill use that rom you mentioned and debrand it that way.
Its a bit of a shame about the mms issue with giffgaff, I wasn't aware of that. I generally send pictures through email now anyway so isn't really a deal breaker for me.
I looked on that network unlocking site you mentioned and see they charge 15 quid. But if they can do it and fast I dont mind paying the extra.
For the chevron unlock you mention does it stay unlocked with any future firmware upgrades that may come?
Thanks again
Rob
Edit to say, have you tried this solution to the mms issue:
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Help-Ask-the-community-got-stuck/MMS-does-not-work-with-WP7-LG-E900/td-p/1520327?device-view=desktop
The last poster claims to have got it working
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Hi Rob77,
WP7 phones were only just released when I got mine unlocked and that was one of only three sites I found that could unlock the Omnia. It was also the cheapest, but things have clearly changed now
Each major update seems to brake the Chevron unlock.
I don't use it myself, so i'm not the best person to advise you on this.
I was just trying to save you some hassle if you wanted to go down that route.
The MMS its that big a deal for me either, but every now and then I look for a solution and have yet to find one.
That thread is for an LG phone, Samsungs don't have an MFG (manufactoring) menu. They have a Diag (diagnosis) menu.
The setting mentioned dose nothing on the Omnia
The only WP7 phones that have a fix AFAIK are the HTC's, they have a 'Network Connection' App that has the GiffGaff settings.
The 'Network Profile' App for Samsungs dosen't have any GiffGaff settings.
Samsung say GiffGaff haven't provided any, GiffGaff have yet to answer my email's/agent msg's. But its only been around 8 months, they maybe busy.
Thanks again for the great advice ZaForD
Its a bit of a shame about the giffgaff MMS issue but hopefully in the future they may finally get round to fixing it amongst themselves. I cant recall receiving an MMS in the last 6 months anyway so its no biggi really.
I probably wont Chevron unlock mine either. Is it just for installing 3rd party apps that are not available through the marketplace? I've not really needed to on my android so doubt I will on WP7
Hi ZaForD I came across this http://www.nextbestgeek.com/2010/12/12/samsung-no-mms-read-on/ and thought it might be of some interest. Apparently it works but I'm unable to test it at the moment as I still haven't received my phone (damn ebayer). When mine arrives I'm going to chevron unlock it and try it out but I'm unsure whether pay chevron labs or go with the free unlock that is on this forum.
sim lock
i dont thnk while changing rom thr s any sim lock ............to dev unlock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335452 here u can c cpmplete guide to dev unlock
Hey Rob
I had a look at the link, I don't think it'll be any help.
There doesn't appear to be anywhere to add any new settings.
Which implys the App gets the MMS settings from either:
The 'Sim Card' which in our case are O2 pre-paid settings not Giffgaff.
And which is the same as 'Resetting' the phone.
Or it pulls the info from the 'Network' which would be the same as 'txt 2020' for settings.
That also doesn't work for WP7 and from what i've read on the giffgaff forums, doesn't work for Android, Apple or Blackberry phones either.
Thats a shame. Thanks for taking a look, hopefully in the future we will get a fix
Hello, I know this question has come up many times. I hate to start a new thread about an old topic but im flat out lost. I just switched from my iPhone 4 to a Samsung Focus. It was sim unlocked and running 7.5 mango when i received it. Everything works fine on my carrier (i have a small local carrier) except the mms. Is there any way to edit the MMS settings yet or dev unlock it? Honestly I have no idea even where to start with all this. Any advice is greatly appreciated and again I'm sorry for starting a new thread for this old topic. Thanks
Download network connection from the Samsung zone in the marketplace.
Thanks, but since I posted this I have Dev unlocked the phone and Interop unlocked it so i could do the turn on APN settings. When i do that and reboot it says it cant find my data settings, I think because my carrier doesn't offer 3g and I've been told that edge wont push out the settings. I also tried the Samsung app network profile and it only gives me the ATT option. Any other options for me to get this working?
Thanks for the help
another question...is there any way to edit the ATT profile that the Network Profiles app pick up?
Hello again, I was just wondering if a solution has been found for this problem?