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Setting Voice priority over Data

So I am using my N1 on att so therefor it only works on EDGE. The problem is that whenever I have an active data session open, my phone does not ring and calls just go to vmail. Is there any way to set the phone to take the call and suspend the data connection?

No one has an answer? Not even through rooting the phone can I get it to accept calls over data...

i haven't used my N1 on the ATT network, but i've never head of data overriding voice. on any network. Voice should kick your data connection. I wonder if you have an issue with an APN setting.

I'm looking for the same,
IM in the Netherlands on vodafone. 3g works fine, but can't call and use internet on the same time.

Dont you need to be on at least 3g to have voice and data at the same time?
this has always been my experience on quite a few phones I have had when in an EDGE only area and tethering on O2 in the UK, phone does not ring.
On 3G it does, in fact last night while on a conference call on speakerphone I decided to run the speed test app to see how much a voice connection impacted data and I got 300-400kbps and I normally get 1-2Mbps, only ran it once and forgot to run it again after the call has ended, so it could just be local conditions....

You are correct that you cannot have voice and data working at the same time unless you have 3g (HSDPA). If you only have and EDGE connection, you can use data or voice, not at the same time though.

So I called HTC directly and asked what the heck was going on and if there is a way to change this and they told me there was NOT. The device is set up to accept data over voice. So basically the sell it as an "unlocked" device but the functionality is is majorly flawed if it cant run on 3g. I am a little angry at this point, yes I should have researched a little more, but who the hell sells a cell PHONE where data overides voice

roush611 said:
So I called HTC directly and asked what the heck was going on and if there is a way to change this and they told me there was NOT. The device is set up to accept data over voice. So basically the sell it as an "unlocked" device but the functionality is is majorly flawed if it cant run on 3g. I am a little angry at this point, yes I should have researched a little more, but who the hell sells a cell PHONE where data overides voice
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Apparently HTC does, probably based on usage stats. I use several gigabytes of data and 1500 text msgs per month on my plan b/w myself and my wife and we only use 200 - 400 minutes. I am pretty sure that we are not the exception either...

Diceman4 said:
Apparently HTC does, probably based on usage stats. I use several gigabytes of data and 1500 text msgs per month on my plan b/w myself and my wife and we only use 200 - 400 minutes. I am pretty sure that we are not the exception either...
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I understand what you are saying and I am the same way. But being such a heavy user I do often get calls when I am on the web. So it is crap that this device is really not a fully functioning phone on EDGE.

Asking your phone to put voice over data as priority on edge is like asking your phone company to put your mom's phone number over others and having her call kick someone else's call off while you are talking.

This is not an issue with the Nexus One, all phones, when on EDGE, behave this way. This is just the way EDGE works, this is why they push 3G devices and network services and not EDGE. It's old and not as functional.
If you are not happy with the Nexus One because of this, I would suggest selling it and waiting for AT&T to get their device that will compete with this.

Talderon said:
This is not an issue with the Nexus One, all phones, when on EDGE, behave this way. This is just the way EDGE works, this is why they push 3G devices and network services and not EDGE. It's old and not as functional.
If you are not happy with the Nexus One because of this, I would suggest selling it and waiting for AT&T to get their device that will compete with this.
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That is not true. Blackberry curve for instance runs on edge, if a call comes it it will interupt the data connect to take the call. You cant do voice and data at the same time, i agree with that. I have had other devices like the G1 when it first came out and when it ran on edge and I was getting a call while on the internet it would suspend my data and take the call...
And I like the N1 that is why I still have it. It just sucks that on a PHONE, data is prioritized over voice. I was looking for a solution for this situation by either rooting or figuring something out within the phone, but I guess there is not a way to fix this.

roush611 said:
That is not true. Blackberry curve for instance runs on edge, if a call comes it it will interupt the data connect to take the call. You cant do voice and data at the same time, i agree with that. I have had other devices like the G1 when it first came out and when it ran on edge and I was getting a call while on the internet it would suspend my data and take the call...
And I like the N1 that is why I still have it. It just sucks that on a PHONE, data is prioritized over voice. I was looking for a solution for this situation by either rooting or figuring something out within the phone, but I guess there is not a way to fix this.
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You are mistaken. I've had at least 10 phones that ran edge for data and none of them could interrupt data for voice. You are probably using more data intensive Apps or webpages compared to the blackberry, so its more likely you are missing calls.
Go use the blackberry to download a 7 MB file and see if you can call it.

where i live i'm just outside the 3G areas
my past phones have been HTC and i just end up with a voicemail notification when someone calls and my phones were ALWAYS on data, people used to get pissed thinking i was avoiding them.
google voice fixes this, i can just switch to my notification, listen to voicemail or if i'm lucky read the transcription (usually doesnt match though ) without having to effect what i was doing.
On my winmo phones, if i tried to do this, i would sometimes go back to my browser to find it decided to close while i was on the call to listen to my voicemail and then i would lose what i was doing and have to start all over anyways. so this is just another reason i love the nexus one and google voice, you say useless data>voice, i say a fix to my problem. i love you n1! lol

I can not speak to blackberry phones but this behavior has been the norm for all of my smartphones, to include the G1. If I make heavy use of Edge in a non 3g area then phone calls would not get through. It is annoying but not a problem specific to the N1.

voicemail software

In Japan, phones can play a msg and record voicemail in the phone itself, so you don't have to dial some server somewhere to retrieve voicemail and pay carrier costs. Is there anything like that for WM?

emananji desuka?

That's more of a carrier service.....not something u can install.

that's the point. You install software so you don't use a carrier service. It can't be hard, accept a call, stream to a .wav
but too many are happy to pay the carrier fees I guess...

speakerphone said:
that's the point. You install software so you don't use a carrier service. It can't be hard, accept a call, stream to a .wav
but too many are happy to pay the carrier fees I guess...
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Because from what i've seen of such services, it's integrated from the carrier itself into whichever handsets it chooses too. You can't do it via 3rd party add ons unless the carrier itself chooses to open their requirements to do so.
It appears to be easy, but unless you know how to reverse engineer the method the carrier uses, good luck. Besides, who's to know when the carrier will just change a simple spec to disable it once they catch on? It's an endless race.

it's not a spec, it's the phone accepting a call - it's capable of doing that. you already have a setting to auto accept after X rings.
then it's saving to a file, there are sound recorder programs in WM already. If it can play the sound via the speaker, it can save the file.
there is nothing to do with the carrier itself. the carrier sees your phone accepting a call, that's it.

You can use phone fusion plus.
http://phonefusion.com/
I used it for a while but T-mobile USA has one built in now so I've switched back. It's not exactly what your describing but it's close. It bypasses the carriers voice mail and stores the file on their server. The only thing you need to pay for is a text message and data to download. If you want to bypass thoes charges I can't help.

I would like this function too, not so much for my current phone, more for my Diamond where I have a pay as you go card with no credit. I simply use it for receiving calls in the house as my Virgin phone doesn't get a very good signal but I often get voicemail messages that I can't listen to.
Obviously if the phone is switched off or out of signal the call will be redirected to the carrier voicemail but if the phone is able to receive the call I would have thought it would be able to accept the call, play a message that I record on my device to the caller and then record what they say until the call disconnects. Maybe we're starting to get into the realms of the In Call Recorder that seems to be problematic.

Terrific idea.
Never thought of it.
I'd suggest you google for it.
Found something like iSecretary for instance, haven't tried it though.
You do realize that you should keep your standard provider voicemail in case your phone is out of reach?
Goodluck and let us know if you've found something useful.

UMA ?

I have seen a bunch of UMA/Tethering threads that seem to taper off into tethering which more people seem to be into.
However, I barely get any signal in my house and really need UMA or I am going to have to return my sweet new G2 which I don't really want to do. How close are we to getting a UMA hack or the real thing in the form of update.
Thank you in advance.

I agree. I am in the same position. The Wifi calling thread deteriorated into a Tethering thread and what I really need is exactly the same thing. I have to use my BB Bold 9700 with UMA once I get home to my house. I purchased the G2 with the hopes of Wifi Calling coming to it.
I am still believing that it WILL before year end, but obviously the sooner the better as I am getting sick of switching my sim card back and forth constantly.

Is there anyone in the know?

Well, I returned my G2 (within the 14 day initial purchase). Maybe I will buy it again. I just can't deal with the intermittent no service in my house. Even my ATT iPhone had 1 bar in my house which assured the phone would ring and I could text.
If UMA comes to the G2 then I will be a very happy owner of it. Till then, pitty me for my use of a 3G iphone.

hopefully when the mytouchhd..or 4g? comes out the g2 gets the uma as well.. i get some ok signal at home but i want my UMA already.. ive had it for the last couple of years with my BB's

Just to clarify here. The Wifi calling on Android will not hand off to the cell network like it does on the Blackberry phones that support it.
Found a source to confirm!
hxxp://blog.wirelessground.com/t-mobile-wi-fi-calling/
(Note: that was just the first result that came up for a google search of the topic)

For me, the not handing off isn't a problem. I rarely walk out the door with the phone against my ear. I just want to get phone calls in my house.

I have a Blackberry, and so does several of my friends. I've never seen a Blackberry hand off a UMA call to the network or vice versa. It always drops the call when it transitions between UMA and the cell network. So it sounds like it'll work just like a Blackberry.

If you have Gmail open on your computer and your phone does not have a signal it will ring on your computer. Not sure how I did it or if its auto but it will get me by til UMA/WiFi callings comes.

TheMercuryMan said:
If you have Gmail open on your computer and your phone does not have a signal it will ring on your computer. Not sure how I did it or if its auto but it will get me by til UMA/WiFi callings comes.
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That's a feature of Google Voice. If you have setup Google Voice in your phone's voicemail settings, enabled GChat as a phone in your Google Voice settings, and set the Google Voice forwarding options for your mobile phone to ring your other phones before going to voicemail, then calls to your mobile number will ring in GChat.

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That's a feature of Google Voice. If you have setup Google Voice in your phone's voicemail settings, enabled GChat as a phone in your Google Voice settings, and set the Google Voice forwarding options for your mobile phone to ring your other phones before going to voicemail, then calls to your mobile number will ring in GChat.
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Cool thanks I had no idea i was in the other room watching TV and my computer started ringing. Wouldnt be too good if my wife was on the computer and my GF called ( if i had one lol). Any way to get rid of the 14 txt messages, email, and a google voice notification every time i get a voicemail?

telephony hardware

Does it exist on tis tab?
how about on
http://www.sierrawireless.com/Newsr...Wireless_4G_LTE_Mobile_Broadband_Network.aspx
which may be the card going in the xoom?
Lastly if the hardware exists on an lte device, should it be possible to make calls work by switching the sim card with a lte phone sim?

I think that if you would like to place phone calls with your Xoom using the cell radio its possible to find a way. Verizon might not be happy with it.
However, Its the hard way to place calls.
Sigh up with a VoIP provider, and use a SIP Client.
I like a provider named Vitelity. You can port your number to them if you would like. They are very inexpensive, and very reliable. (or use Skype, or anyone else.)
Then, use a SIP dialer and a Bluetooth headset on your Xoom. I am doing just that using Verizon 3g and it works great.

I have signed up for skype and have a number, but skype seems to have no interest in real BT support, neither does Google. If I could force Skype to use the mic on a BT< I could likely live with it, but AFAIK that is not possible.

This all be in another forum, however I am using CSIPSimple and it supports my plantronic BT voyager 510, (on Honeycomb)
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/voyager-510&skuId=sku4610016
And, CSIPSimple opens the default Android Dialer (Which is in Honeycomb) to send and receive calls.

Would you mind testing it to be sure?
If so, place a call, leave your pad and walk like 15 feet and see if you are still heard.
Please don't be offended, I have just had WAY to many people say the same thing as you, only to find out A2DP let them hear, and they were using the tab mic without knowing it.

Hmmm.. I will check later tonight. That is a good question.

Thanks young... anyone else use csip too?

The hardware is capable, the problem is with the provisioning. Verizon adds feature codes to block voice and SMS on their tablet data plans.

what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?

Morkai Almandragon said:
what stops us from switching sims later to make our tablets look like a phone?
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There is no sim to switch.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

So then? Any tablet outside of the us ( or Verizon) is able
To standard phonecalls?
I'm in the uk and I was planning to buy the 3g version but if I still have to carry a phone to txt or call, i'll choose the WiFi one, save 200 bucks, and tether with my nexus when needed although I'm not very happy with the idea of carrying multiple devices...
Btw , 3g version has been priced in.....600 pounds! What are they playing at? If I finally choose wifionly I'll buy for sure in the US, screw carphone and pcworld..
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I think you are asking a question that no one can answer at the moment.
LTE does use a SIM card, but, NO devices are currently available on Verizon's LTE network yet, so no one knows what happens if you switch LTE SIM cards between devices.
I also think that LTE devices use a VoIP type of voice connection, something different then how voice is done on CDMA. This new type of connection allows data and Voice to operate at the same time. This functionality, this Software dialer stack would need to be included in Honeycomb, which is not a phone Android distribution.

Young dud you test the bluetooth mic with csip?

Yes. I I have found is that I do have two way audio, all on the Bluetooth headset using csip, I walked around my house, leaving the Xoom several rooms away.
While in WiFi, Bluetooth audio was sketchy at best. For most calls, I could not get the headset in engage for the call. While in the call I would press Bluetooth on the dialer, and nothing would happen, or the audio would cut in and out, before engaging, or a few times I would have to press 'Speaker", then Bluetooth, then Speaker again before it would engage. When it would engage in WiFi I did have two way audio.
While in 3G, with WiFi Off, the connection with Bluetooth was perfect every time. No issues. The call call quality overall was a bit less then with WiFi, however Bluetooth worked correctly.
UPDATE: I just had a bad Bluetooth connection issue on 3G. So, it is spotty. It might be because CSip uses the default Android dialer which might be incomplete in some way on Honeycomb.
I should try another SIP app. But Bluetooth does have two way audio when I can get it to connect.

[GSM User] Call audio quality poor on other person's side

Hi guys,
First of all, I'm a GSM user running the latest OTA stock ROM and Baseband.
So I've been making more calls lately, and I keep getting complaints from people saying my voice is unclear and breaking up on them. I decided to do some experimenting, and have come to the conclusion that it is not my SIM, phone's mic, ROM, or the other person's problem.
I've noticed, when calling from my Razr M to another phone (let's call it Phone2), if I set Phone2 to mute, then my voice is heard perfectly fine on Phone2. If it's not muted, then Phone2 can barely hear what I am saying from my Razr M. The whole time, anything the person says into Phone2 is heard crystal-clear on my Razr M
I know it's not my SIM card is because I just went to the AT&T store today and replaced it
I know it's not the mic is because if I use GrooVe IP to place the call via VoIP, everything is heard fine on both ends
I know it's not the other person is because I've had at least 4 different people tell me they can barely hear me on their phones, and I've tested it myself by calling the other phones in my AT&T family plan, and my landline, and the issue still occurs.
I found that changing
Code:
persist.audio.mic=digital
to "analog" instead, helps a little because it makes the voice louder, but it doesn't help with the audio breaking up.
Reverting back to the older baseband (the one that is included in Matt's Utility 1.20) doesn't make a difference.
Does anyone else have similar experiences? Ideas for me to try? I'm especially curious to hear from other GSM users.