[Q] How update kernel - Windows Mobile

Hey everybody,
I'm cooking a WM6.5.x ROM for HTC Touch Pro / Fuze / Raphael (you call it how you like it). I'm using WM build 23699. Everything is fine, that's no problem But I have a question related to the kernel. I have not updated the kernel, so I only have slot 0 and 1. But are there much advances on updating my kernel to the 'native' one? And where can I find it? And how should I do it?
Thanks in advance!
MadMatt

The advantage to have a native 6.5 Kernel is that you will have a more smooth rom because you will not need to recmode any module thrn the standard for having a booting rom (Ntconfig.dll).
I dont know if it does exist for your phone but you must search for it in its thread,you need to search for Nk.exe.Once you will find it just replace it with the old one in OEMXIPKernel.

af974 said:
The advantage to have a native 6.5 Kernel is that you will have a more smooth rom because you will not need to recmode any module thrn the standard for having a booting rom (Ntconfig.dll).
I dont know if it does exist for your phone but you must search for it in its thread,you need to search for Nk.exe.Once you will find it just replace it with the old one in OEMXIPKernel.
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The NK.exe is the only thing you need? And is it possible that it is the same as the one from the HTC Diamond? (as the only difference between those two is the keyboard)

Yes ,only nk.exe you need and i doubt that Nk.exe from another device should works.
_Madmatt said:
The NK.exe is the only thing you need? And is it possible that it is the same as the one from the HTC Diamond? (as the only difference between those two is the keyboard)
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af974 said:
Yes ,only nk.exe you need and i doubt that Nk.exe from another device should works.
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Okay, I'll search for the NK.exe. And OsKitchen will automatically detect that it is a newer kernel than?

If you will replace the old kernel then OsKitchen will does all the process automatically.
_Madmatt said:
Okay, I'll search for the NK.exe. And OsKitchen will automatically detect that it is a newer kernel than?
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Good lord, update the kernel!!! There's one posted in the native kernel thread.
Here's the one I've been using. I think it's the latest. Just swap it into your xip folder and you'll be good to go. And quit recmodding!!!

Farmer Ted said:
Good lord, update the kernel!!! There's one posted in the native kernel thread.
Here's the one I've been using. I think it's the latest. Just swap it into your xip folder and you'll be good to go. And quit recmodding!!!
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Thanks, will I need to update OEMDrivers too? Because I read that sometimes that is needed too And will I be able to un-RecMod everything after updating the kernel?

Look for one of Da_G's kitchens (23016 was the last full one). It has the oem. But the drivers are all the same. I use drivers from the Orange/20779 final raphael rom. Convert all the drivers to modules.

Farmer Ted said:
Look for one of Da_G's kitchens (23016 was the last full one). It has the oem. But the drivers are all the same. I use drivers from the Orange/20779 final raphael rom. Convert all the drivers to modules.
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Didn't understand what you are saying here So I need all the OEM packages execpt the OEMDrivers? The OEM packages I have right now are those from the RUU_Raphael_HTC_WWE_5.05.405.1_R_Radio_Signed_Raphael_52.58.25.30_1.11.25.01_Ship.exe
Are that good ones too? Convert all drivers to modules? What do you mean by this? Convert the OEMDrivers in the OEM tab to EXT packages? (Using osKitchen)

Sorry, all you need is the 20779 or 20771 oem. But if you don't want to dump it yourself, get Da_G's kitchen, which is cleaned up a bit. The drivers aren't 6.5-specific. You should convert them all to modules, though.

Farmer Ted said:
Sorry, all you need is the 20779 or 20771 oem. But if you don't want to dump it yourself, get Da_G's kitchen, which is cleaned up a bit. The drivers aren't 6.5-specific. You should convert them all to modules, though.
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Allright, if the drivers aren't 6.5 specific, then I can just convert my drivers I have now to EXT-packages?

_Madmatt said:
Allright, if the drivers aren't 6.5 specific, then I can just convert my drivers I have now to EXT-packages?
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Why convert them to EXT's? Just leave them in your OEM Drivers folder. And convert them to modules.

Farmer Ted said:
Why convert them to EXT's? Just leave them in your OEM Drivers folder. And convert them to modules.
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Okay. and how do I do that in osKitchen? This is my first kernel update

I don't use that kitchen, but if it doesn't have module creation built-in, get reversemod.exe and manually do the conversion by dragging and dropping the files onto the exe. You should do all the oem driver dll's (they get loaded at startup, anyway, and this will save some virtual memory).

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Rhodium QVGA Dependencies

I've been breaking my head trying to figure out why the Rhodium Menu Enhancement works fine on some phones but never works on others. Is it certain builds? Is it certain files? Certain file versions?
In order to figure it out, I want to collect as much info as possible on the dependencies. I know that the dependencies are:
Coredll.dll
aygshell.dll
I'm gonna try to track down the dependencies for each dll.
I need some help. Help me gather as much info on it as possible.
gwes.exe and gwes.exe.0409.mui are the big ones. the ones you mentioned aren't necessary
mbarvian said:
gwes.exe and gwes.exe.0409.mui are the big ones. the ones you mentioned aren't necessary
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WHICH gwes.exe and gwes.exe.0409.mui?
I am using the 21042 build and the Notification enhancement works but not the menu enhancement.
ivanmmj said:
WHICH gwes.exe and gwes.exe.0409.mui?
I am using the 21042 build and the Notification enhancement works but not the menu enhancement.
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the ones from that build. im using them and both are working fine.
which menu enhancement .cab are u using?
also, make sure u have verinfou2.dll somewhere in the rom and the htc scroll package
mbarvian said:
the ones from that build. im using them and both are working fine.
which menu enhancement .cab are u using?
also, make sure u have verinfou2.dll somewhere in the rom and the htc scroll package
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I have verinfou2.dll version: 1.0.1818.2525. What version are you using?
What HTC Scroll Package? I've got HTCScroll.dll version 1.0.1911.1624. What else is in the package?
Also, do you have RunCC installed?
On my own roms, WM 6.1 or WM 6.5, HTCMenus only work when manila is active.
VERSION: "MenuEnhancement"="1_0_19123624_01"
ark666 said:
On my own roms, WM 6.1 or WM 6.5, HTCMenus only work when manila is active.
VERSION: "MenuEnhancement"="1_0_19123624_01"
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Isn't there an option that disables the Manila Check. I'm almost 90% sure.
ark666 said:
On my own roms, WM 6.1 or WM 6.5, HTCMenus only work when manila is active.
VERSION: "MenuEnhancement"="1_0_19123624_01"
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCMenus]
"EnableManilaCheck"=dword:00000000
how do i get RunCC and verinfou2.dll and HTC Scroll Package?
tcchuin said:
how do i get RunCC and verinfou2.dll and HTC Scroll Package?
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you can get them from latest topaz rom
dump it and you have the packages
must we cook it into a rom?or can we convert it into a cab file and install?please tell me...if can..please help me dump it and convert it int cab..thx..^^
tcchuin said:
must we cook it into a rom?or can we convert it into a cab file and install?please tell me...if can..please help me dump it and convert it int cab..thx..^^
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There are always a few cabs out there. The problem is getting it to work in the first place.
HTCScroll.dll is definately needed. it may also require ResLoader.dll (part of the ResourceProxy package), but i'm not 100% sure on that.
on most roms running build 21xxx, you'll have to cook it in to get it working.
kimi_sae_ireba said:
HTCScroll.dll is definately needed. it may also require ResLoader.dll (part of the ResourceProxy package), but i'm not 100% sure on that.
on most roms running build 21xxx, you'll have to cook it in to get it working.
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I have ResLoader there for other reasons and I only cook ROMs, never use CABs, but it's still not working... I'm going to try the 21015 GWES and see what happens.
ivanmmj said:
I've been breaking my head trying to figure out why the Rhodium Menu Enhancement works fine on some phones but never works on others. Is it certain builds? Is it certain files? Certain file versions?
In order to figure it out, I want to collect as much info as possible on the dependencies. I know that the dependencies are:
Coredll.dll
aygshell.dll
I'm gonna try to track down the dependencies for each dll.
I need some help. Help me gather as much info on it as possible.
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You can figure it out yourself by using http://www.dependencywalker.com/

[SOLVED]non booting rom?.....now make a bootable rom

hi all..
we all have suffered from one common things while making a rom..
after all your hard work and spending so much time and reading on and on for improvements u encounter this
stuck at smart mobility
so i request all people who faced such problems and have solved them,,plz write here about it..
what u have done..??
what is the cause??
this will easier for lots of people to understand why they have non booting rom..
so afterall i got this solution..
1.Make sure the following packages are cooked:
. NetCF or NetCF 3.5
. Dummy FWUPDATE
. Dummy SQM
. WinCENLS_WWE
byDOTCOMPT
2.if your rom gets stuck on radio screen and the screen doesnt dim after a lil bit then you have problem with xip...if the screen does dim it usually means a problem with system.
byTWOPUMPCHUMP
3.recmod ALL modules in your EXT folder
recmod these three folder in sys...browsing, browsingcore, and browsingie
BYTWOPUMPCHUMP
4.ALSO SEE THE ATCHED TXT FILES BY KOKOTAS FOR WHICH FILE TO RECMOD ON PAGE 3
This could be caused by many things.
I suggest you check all last changes you did, which packages/edits etc...
Before I edit my kitchen I always make sure I have a backup incase stuff like this happens so I can refert back.
I recommend editing step by step and not edit to many things at once.
Grtz Leo
Totally agree with Laurentius.
Just some points to look:
1.wince.nls
2.XIP
3.boot.rgu
4.UPXed files
Best Regards!
ps:A Hard Reset would be nice after flashing
kokotas said:
Totally agree with Laurentius.
Just some points to look:
1.wince.nls
2.XIP
3.boot.rgu
4.UPXed files
Best Regards!
ps:A Hard Reset would be nice after flashing
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almost done..
ok i made a rom 23544..works like a charmm..
but i just upgrade new build like 23548,49,52
all have non booting issue..
no changes have been made from 23544 build not even new application added..
but no luckk.
checked wince..found xip is ok..
also done recmod but no luck..
so now???
i tell u what i just change build 23544,,i got bootable rom..then just chang build ..48..49
non bootable rom
Try XIP 23544, SYS 23548,49,52.
Maybe a bad XIP source?!
If you change to a new MS build you only need MSXipkernel plus SYS.
No recmod is needed, I never use recmod.
Try playing with wincenls, move it from SYS to XIP or maybe viceversa.
Laurentius26 said:
If you change to a new MS build you only need MSXipkernel plus SYS.
No recmod is needed, I never use recmod.
Try playing with wincenls, move it from SYS to XIP or maybe viceversa.
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but without recmod the kitchen even not building a rom
That's weird, the kitchen should run without recmodding modules.
Maybe you have a conflict in your kitchen where a file is overwriting a module?
saurabh88 said:
but without recmod the kitchen even not building a rom
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so your rom gets stuck at first screen, with radio info ect on bottom of screen? what modules are you recmodding? do you have hidden and system files visable on your pc? what kitchen are you using? there are alot of things that could cause your rom not to boot, the more info you give the easier it is to help
twopumpchump said:
so your rom gets stuck at first screen, with radio info ect on bottom of screen? what modules are you recmodding? do you have hidden and system files visable on your pc? what kitchen are you using? there are alot of things that could cause your rom not to boot, the more info you give the easier it is to help
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i use evk..
other things i have already stated before that with same kitchen i can make rom of 23544;but what the fkkkk..i just change build to23548;4951 non bootibg rom...
strange but true.
i just use extra button in evk to recmod as someone already made a post to use extra button via batch file..
saurabh88 said:
i use evk..
other things i have already stated before that with same kitchen i can make rom of 23544;but what the fkkkk..i just change build to23548;4951 non bootibg rom...
strange but true.
i just use extra button in evk to recmod as someone already made a post to use extra button via batch file..
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Make sure the following packages are cooked:
. NetCF or NetCF 3.5
. Dummy FWUPDATE
. Dummy SQM
. WinCENLS_WWE
Could you post your Build_log.txt here.
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saurabh88 said:
i use evk..
other things i have already stated before that with same kitchen i can make rom of 23544;but what the fkkkk..i just change build to23548;4951 non bootibg rom...
strange but true.
i just use extra button in evk to recmod as someone already made a post to use extra button via batch file..
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then obviously something different has been done with the newer builds you are trying to use that wasnt done with 23544. did you recmod 23544 the exact same way as you did the newer ones that didnt work? if your rom gets stuck on radio screen and the screen doesnt dim after a lil bit then you have problem with xip...if the screen does dim it usually means a problem with system. you can use beyond compare to compare the working build to the non-working one, if there is something different you will be able to tell.
twopumpchump said:
then obviously something different has been done with the newer builds you are trying to use that wasnt done with 23544. did you recmod 23544 the exact same way as you did the newer ones that didnt work? if your rom gets stuck on radio screen and the screen doesnt dim after a lil bit then you have problem with xip...if the screen does dim it usually means a problem with system. you can use beyond compare to compare the working build to the non-working one, if there is something different you will be able to tell.
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yes screen does not dim..
so what is your suggestion??
Then XIP(MSXIPKernel) is probably the cause.
Did you try a different XIP or a combination of XIP(MSXIPKernel) 23544 and SYS 23548 as I told you before?
From where did you get the 23548-49-52 builds?
Maybe you should download them again?
Best Regards!
saurabh88 said:
yes screen does not dim..
so what is your suggestion??
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thats why i asked if you have hidden and system files showing on your pc...maybe you left some files/dsm/rgu out of msxipkernel.
kokotas said:
Then XIP(MSXIPKernel) is probably the cause.
Did you try a different XIP or a combination of XIP(MSXIPKernel) 23544 and SYS 23548 as I told you before?
From where did you get the 23548-49-52 builds?
Maybe you should download them again?
Best Regards!
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yes did it but no luck.....
i download them from da_g thread..
if u can plz give me the link of them to dwnld again
twopumpchump said:
thats why i asked if you have hidden and system files showing on your pc...maybe you left some files/dsm/rgu out of msxipkernel.
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ok i will compare them and see.l
saurabh88 said:
yes did it but no luck.....
i download them from da_g thread..
if u can plz give me the link of them to dwnld again
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Have you tried the 23554 that I posted (It is in my Rollups folder, link can be found in NRGZ sticky in this forum)
build log of 23554
still stuck at smart mobility,,,here i attached file plz someone look at it and help me...
i have just sorted them through dump sorter..
Saurabh: see also this post by twopumpchump: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6032341&postcount=14

[SOLVED] driver for 6.5 rom

hi
can any body tel me how to cook new rom for device that only have a original 6.1 rom ?
i want cook 6.5 rom for device that only have 6.1 original rom where can i found driver for those?
Just use the 6.1 ones and set prb to not use slot61 and 62.
OndraSter said:
Just use the 6.1 ones and set prb to not use slot61 and 62.
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can u Explanation how to do this?
MOHSEN-UNIQUE said:
can u Explanation how to do this?
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Dump the shipped ROM and use OEM Drivers in your kitchen. IMO, kitchen manages slots automatically so no needs to apply changes and modifications manually.
TAEL said:
Dump the shipped ROM and use OEM Drivers in your kitchen. IMO, kitchen manages slots automatically so no needs to apply changes and modifications manually.
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thank man
Thread name changed to [SOLVED]

[Q] how to cook sense?

I apologize if this has been covered, but I can't find specific info with my search terms.
I'm cooking for Rhodium, WVGA, WM 6.5.x sys 21682. My base ROM is ATT's stock august 30th 2010 ROM. Using OSKitchen Zero, latest release.
Basically, I can't get any version of sense to work. I've tried cooking 2016, 2018, and 2019, and can't get any of them to work. The problem is that when I try to import the EXT packages with OSKZ, I get an error stating: "The OEM package you've selected doesn't seem to be valid..."
So, I thought maybe it was just being strange. So I placed the packages manually into the kitchen and tried to build the ROM and platform builder would hang and I'd have to cancel the process.
Any tips tricks or ideas?
Thanks a lot!
Smith
Where are you sourcing your sense files from?
Have you got the additional dependencies covered (ie starticonloader?)
crazyC said:
Where are you sourcing your sense files from?
Have you got the additional dependencies covered (ie starticonloader?)
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I'm not sure what you mean by sourcing exactly, but on my PC they're located on my desktop, and I've also tried placing them straight into my kitchen without using the GUI to do it.
I got the files from a post here on XDA.
Yeah, I believe I have all the additional dependencies as well.
I've been reading and it looks like I have to modify the app.dat file and some other files?
Regards
Smith
smithisize said:
I'm not sure what you mean by sourcing exactly, but on my PC they're located on my desktop, and I've also tried placing them straight into my kitchen without using the GUI to do it.
I got the files from a post here on XDA.
Yeah, I believe I have all the additional dependencies as well.
I've been reading and it looks like I have to modify the app.dat file and some other files?
Regards
Smith
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OK so you got them from XDA - as I am assuming you are not using the At&T standard ones. (that was what I meant).
The ones I got from XDA were already CFC'd and were already in EXT format not OEM and so did not need any importing as such, just copying into the directory.
I did not need to modify anything - cannot remember the thread I got them from tho.
I will try and have a look, but my kitchen is now such an amalgamation of packages that I couldn't be sure where it all came from.
Ahhhh ok, i was confused because it says's import, ext package then it asks for an oem location.
Ok, with that cleared up, place straight into kitchen, gotcha. How many dependencies are there, can you recall? I think i have them all but I want to make sure.
Thanks a lot!
Regards
Smith
Edit:
No go, but here's the error (attached in the pic)
You've got files inside of modules. You need to clean your modules up.
Farmer Ted said:
You've got files inside of modules. You need to clean your modules up.
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Alright, is there any reading I could do to help me figure out what to clean and what to keep?
Thanks
Smith
Try looking inside the corrupt modules, then look in some clean ones, and figure out what doesn't belong. It should be obvious.
Someone else is just going to tell you the answer, but you're better off figuring it out yourself.
Farmer Ted said:
Someone else is just going to tell you the answer, but you're better off figuring it out yourself.
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Couldn't agree more. I'll check it out.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
Regards
Smith
Edit: one last question. It's killing me finding all the WVGA dependencies for this package, they're all vga is appears. This is what I'm using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797602
and when it lists the "required packages" when I download it it's labled VGA, not WVGA, and I think that'll be a problem. Will it?
Right, cooking sense is not my strongest point so I will probably leave it to others to take it further, but
Modules vs files - you need one or the other I think. Look up recmod and reversemod.
I just used a set of Manila files uploaded and CFC'd by someone from the latest official LEO ROM.(By Patensas I think) and maybe updated the HTC framework as well.
crazyC said:
Right, cooking sense is not my strongest point so I will probably leave it to others to take it further, but
Modules vs files - you need one or the other I think. Look up recmod and reversemod.
I just used a set of Manila files uploaded and CFC'd by someone from the latest official LEO ROM.(By Patensas I think) and maybe updated the HTC framework as well.
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Alright, so I've figured out which packages I need to recmod and have done so. I haven't found those leo files yet, but I'm looking. Just got home. I'll post back when I see how that goes!
Regards
Smith
I have never had to recmod any of the sense files.
What you need to do is delete the files (ie the .dll) within the module. The kitchen will use the module to create the file on the device, it does not need the file as well. Hence the kitchen is giving the warning.
I think.
Hi, just re read your first post.
Could you confirm you have done the following:
Dumped the ATT base rom and rebuilt using just that with the EXTs that came from it, flashed it, and checked it worked? (So you should have had a working Sense in that) as per the Oskitchen instruction set?
If there have been problems with that, try ticking the box next to recmod on the Phone Canvas Enhancement package. I think there was an issue with the ATT ROM around this.
crazyC said:
Hi, just re read your first post.
Could you confirm you have done the following:
Dumped the ATT base rom and rebuilt using just that with the EXTs that came from it, flashed it, and checked it worked? (So you should have had a working Sense in that) as per the Oskitchen instruction set?
If there have been problems with that, try ticking the box next to recmod on the Phone Canvas Enhancement package. I think there was an issue with the ATT ROM around this.
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Yeah, I did that. Here's the weird part though. That worked the first time. But after having all these difficulties, seeing as I haven't made much real progress, I rebuilt my kitchen. Then it wouldn't work. I would get the exact same runtime error, eventhough it worked before and I've installed all the libraries.
So, as of now the problem lies somewhere with my kitchen. I'm trying to troubleshoot it right now.
Any ideas as to why that might be? I've tried the FAQ's in the OSK thread and haven't fixed the problem :/
Regards
Smith
No sorry.
I had some kitchen problems when upgrading from oskitchen 1.32 (tried to completely reorganise my EXTs at the same time and it went horribly wrong), so went back to 1.32 to sort it out and will upgrade in due course.
If platform rebuilder crashes during the build then you dont need to waste time flashing.
Disable all EXTs and build and then add them in blocks till you identify what is causing the crash.
If it crashes with no EXTs then try the original sys, and if no joy reimport the rom?
Are all the recommended packages ticked for Recmod?
smithisize said:
Alright, so I've figured out which packages I need to recmod and have done so. I haven't found those leo files yet, but I'm looking. Just got home. I'll post back when I see how that goes!
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I can't help you on Sense, as I don't use it, but why would you recmod anything? That's a bad idea. If you have a 6.5 kernel, use it.
crazyC said:
No sorry.
I had some kitchen problems when upgrading from oskitchen 1.32 (tried to completely reorganise my EXTs at the same time and it went horribly wrong), so went back to 1.32 to sort it out and will upgrade in due course.
If platform rebuilder crashes during the build then you dont need to waste time flashing.
Disable all EXTs and build and then add them in blocks till you identify what is causing the crash.
If it crashes with no EXTs then try the original sys, and if no joy reimport the rom?
Are all the recommended packages ticked for Recmod?
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Actually recmodding ATT Phone Canvas fixed the problem.
I was able to generate the ROM image with sense 2017 cooked in, but sense won't launch now. "Tap to Start Sense" so I'm double checking dependencies, exe and dll files as we speak.
Thanks a lot for all the help!
Regards
Smith
So i got sense 2017 to at least load. now, however, none of the softkeys work, and tapping on a message in the message tab doesn't work.
So far so good. lots of learning to do yet, but I'll get there.
Thanks a lot for al the info!
Regards
Smith
Alright, I can't get sense to work again lol. It just kinda stopped, eventhough I'm using the same packages for manila and its dependencies.
Any ideas?
Regards
Smith
Does anyone know how to cook sense with old kitchen style(build os) for Omnia II?
Thanks in advance

some questions. do you remember recmod?about this tool

Hi all
Do you remember recmod?one of WM rom-files editor&modifier
tools。it can convert module to normal format file.
Used for WP7 rom files?。。
i dump the "folder" module thru htcRIE from *.nb0-imgfs.bin.
but i use recmod to convert module into file(*.dll
format), its only 1KB。。。obvious that its wrong.
for example:attached figure
is there any other tools for wp7 rom-files ?
THX !
Yeah, there were some changes, old RecMod won't work.
For future RecMod modifiers: MS is now using not just type3 reloc but even type5 and 7.
OndraSter said:
Yeah, there were some changes, old RecMod won't work.
For future RecMod modifiers: MS is now using not just type3 reloc but even type5 and 7.
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Thanks ,Mr. OndraSter
a great news..
Samsung WP7 ROM-customized is coming!

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