does scrolling in android suck? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

i'm asking this because it sucks when i want to get to the bottom of a contacts list or a long text file and I have to scroll it down manually. only some apps support the movement of the "scroll button" on the right (i hope you get what i mean, it's where the button gets bigger). is there any work around to this?

yeah i guess your right. Some of the system menus have that bigger "quick scroll" button, some dont. If the ones that dont end up having many items in them they can annoying, even though the momentum scrolling can go really fast its still not ideal. Unless there is something I am not aware of, I would have to agree with you

there must be some work around. if winmo can, so why can't android?

No I think its great!

you must be using mattc froyo 1.0

tdizzle404 said:
No I think its great!
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great how? do you find 20 seconds of scrolling to get to the end of a page great?
dapoharoun said:
you must be using mattc froyo 1.0
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i'm using the latest nexushd2.

I don't see how it sucks.... Not matter how long the file is, you just flick it up quickly and it will most likely scroll right to the bottom. Obviously depending on how many lines but it won't take you 20 times to scroll....

Willievi said:
I don't see how it sucks.... Not matter how long the file is, you just flick it up quickly and it will most likely scroll right to the bottom. Obviously depending on how many lines but it won't take you 20 times to scroll....
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but still, the ability to go straight to the bottom would be nice. imagine if you're in a life or death situation where your life depends on a data at the bottom of a text file.

You suck at the scrolling of the names maybe? Maybe your phone make seperate post that say "do human with tiny fingers suck at scrolling maybe".................
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dan138zig said:
but still, the ability to go straight to the bottom would be nice. imagine if you're in a life or death situation where your life depends on a data at the bottom of a text file.
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Put google search widget on home. Type name of contact. The name pop right up in search after 2-3 letters.
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Don't blame Android, blame the dev of the app that doesn't have it. Android provides the option, and some apps are better off without such a quick scroll handle, so I'm glad it's an option and not forced.

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Nice Trick - PIE Scrolling with Volume Slider

Just discovered nice little touch on PIE (you may all know it already). When in full screen mode the "Volume Slider" works as an up/down scroll bar (sadly only jumps from link to link).
I only discovered this cos I am trying to find a way to get true scrolling in PIE, instead of it TABBING from link to link. In most instances this is fine, but a real pain if there are hundreds of links at the top of a web page. Any advice?
Sorted - Real Page Down Scrolling
Sorted it, found on another forum. Change PIE Scrolling from TABBING to normal PAGE DOWN/PAGE UP.
Edit registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav
Change Value from 1 to 0.
Also works when in FULL SCREEN with the VOLUME SLIDER.
Sweet hack.
That's one for the Wiki IMO
nice one dude! Implemented it straight away.
This hack was included in Tweaks2k2 a long time ago (option Internet Tricks/PIE Smooth Scrolling).
Wish there was a way of scrolling smoothly, line by line, and not by a full screen at a time... :?:
SiliconS said:
Wish there was a way of scrolling smoothly, line by line, and not by a full screen at a time... :?:
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well, this is better than jumping from link to link
ctitanic said:
SiliconS said:
Wish there was a way of scrolling smoothly, line by line, and not by a full screen at a time... :?:
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well, this is better than jumping from link to link
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Hmm. I know it's a matter of personal preference but I quite like the link-to-link scrolling. It seems smart enough (i.e. if there are links on a page then it scrolls through them, but if the page has no links then it goes page-by-page). It means I can view a webpage and navigate the web without taking out the stylus to tap the screen. I just wish I could read long news articles line-by-line (or even halfscreen-by-halfscreen) rather than jumping entire pages with only 10 pixels overlap.
SiliconS said:
ctitanic said:
SiliconS said:
Wish there was a way of scrolling smoothly, line by line, and not by a full screen at a time... :?:
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well, this is better than jumping from link to link
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Hmm. I know it's a matter of personal preference but I quite like the link-to-link scrolling. It seems smart enough (i.e. if there are links on a page then it scrolls through them, but if the page has no links then it goes page-by-page). It means I can view a webpage and navigate the web without taking out the stylus to tap the screen. I just wish I could read long news articles line-by-line (or even halfscreen-by-halfscreen) rather than jumping entire pages with only 10 pixels overlap.
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Well, this reminds me a song: "What you see is what you get"
ctitanic said:
SiliconS said:
ctitanic said:
SiliconS said:
Wish there was a way of scrolling smoothly, line by line, and not by a full screen at a time... :?:
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well, this is better than jumping from link to link
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Hmm. I know it's a matter of personal preference but I quite like the link-to-link scrolling. ... I just wish I could read long news articles line-by-line (or even halfscreen-by-halfscreen) rather than jumping entire pages with only 10 pixels overlap.
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Well, this reminds me a song: "What you see is what you get"
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hehe

Does anyone use PocketCM?? I have a problem

Hello all,
Does anyone here use PocketCM (an iPhone-like application for contacts)? It's a great program and works really well except when I try to install and select a new theme. When I go to the settings and press "Choose Theme", it only lets me choose one theme (the defaul), and I can't scroll over or anything to select a different theme. I hope this makes sense, and I hope someone out there knows something about this. I was gonna post in the forum on PocketCM's website, but I can't register in it for some reason. Please help me out if you can! Thanks!
-- Nick
Nevermind -- I figured out a way that works (even though it's very inconvenient)
xboxremote said:
Does anyone here use PocketCM (an iPhone-like application for contacts)?
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no harm dude, but i think almost everyone here uses pocketcm lol
How does one search for a contact with this pocketcm ? Dont tell me one has to go click on every alphabet? Say I want to look for Jayne - cant I just type Jay etc and out pops Jane or wutever else?
natzakaria said:
Dont tell me one has to go click on every alphabet?
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No. You can slide your finger down either the left or right side of the touchscreen and when you release your finger it will jump to that alphabet in your list.
natzakaria said:
cant I just type Jay etc and out pops Jane or wutever else?
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Yes. Just start typing and PocketCM will narrow down your list of contacts which match the characters you typed.
tomazez said:
no harm dude, but i think almost everyone here uses pocketcm lol
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Haha, I wasn't sure.
Anyway, I guess another question is, does anyone have trouble when sliding, and the program will just randomly decide that you meant to press on a name instead of sliding? If that makes sense...?
xboxremote said:
Haha, I wasn't sure.
Anyway, I guess another question is, does anyone have trouble when sliding, and the program will just randomly decide that you meant to press on a name instead of sliding? If that makes sense...?
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Its just a matter of gettin used to it. I still have trouble scrolling tho. Not very consistent.
MajorGl0ry said:
No. You can slide your finger down either the left or right side of the touchscreen and when you release your finger it will jump to that alphabet in your list.
Yes. Just start typing and PocketCM will narrow down your list of contacts which match the characters you typed.
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Errr type where??
I use PocketCM also. I do experience a little glitch when searching the contact alphabetically, when scrolling from the left; it will sometimes show my favorite contacts instead. Does anyone experience this also?
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Errr type where??
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Just slide out your keyboard and type.
But if without the keyboard? How?
Pocket CM disappointment
I'm actually pretty disappointed when it comes to this app, for a two reasons:
1) it randomly hangs: sometimes when I'm scrolling the display just stops working and in my impatience i continue to click and before I know it I've either called someone that I didn't mean to, or i've opened someone for editing.
2) side scroll (alphabetically) does not work worth a damn. It NEVER goes to the letter that I specify, always stops short. I would say that this happens randomly... but no, it happens consistently, every time. Any ideas what is causing this? The only time is seems to work is when I'm going upwards.
Does anyone have any ideas about these two problems ?
Thanks.
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I'm actually pretty disappointed when it comes to this app, for a two reasons:
1) it randomly hangs: sometimes when I'm scrolling the display just stops working and in my impatience i continue to click and before I know it I've either called someone that I didn't mean to, or i've opened someone for editing.
2) side scroll (alphabetically) does not work worth a damn. It NEVER goes to the letter that I specify, always stops short. I would say that this happens randomly... but no, it happens consistently, every time. Any ideas what is causing this? The only time is seems to work is when I'm going upwards.
Does anyone have any ideas about these two problems ?
Thanks.
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I don't have any ideas about those two problems (sorry), but I'm also a little disappointed with the app. Like why I orinigally started this thread, it's such a hassle for me to install new skins because it doesn't work like it's supposed to. Or the inconsistent scrolling, or the hanging like you mentioned.
Also, (although this is minor), has anyone else noticed that if you leave Pocket CM open and go back to the Today screen, and lock the buttons, the top eighth of the screen or so shows the Pocket CM app, and everything else is the Today screen? Does that make sense? Anyway, it's a minor detail, but it's kind of a sore-sight. Has anyone been able to fix this?

Desire's select text magnifier extract?

hi guys, im nt running the desire rom but whilst i was i reeally loved the magnified select text feature. Not sure if its implemented throughout or just the browser as i only came across it during using the browser. Will it be possible to take the magnify script and implement into n1 roms?
thanks
I'd love if someone could port that over as well. I came from an iPhone 3G to a Nexus One and that's one of my most missed features.
PhantomRampage said:
I'd love if someone could port that over as well. I came from an iPhone 3G to a Nexus One and that's one of my most missed features.
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I miss it as well specially when selecting text like the iPhone did...
+1. would love this on my droid running froyo
Yeah, except for select all, selecting text on Android is a PITA. I need to look up how to do it better sometime, I'm sure it can be done..
I hope we don't have to wait for Gingerbread for this feature!
khaytsus said:
Yeah, except for select all, selecting text on Android is a PITA. I need to look up how to do it better sometime, I'm sure it can be done..
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Just choose Select text from the options and use the trackball to move to what you want. Press the trackball, move it to highlight your selection, press it again to copy the selection to the clipboard.
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Just choose Select text from the options and use the trackball to move to what you want. Press the trackball, move it to highlight your selection, press it again to copy the selection to the clipboard.
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i think he knows how, sounds like hes looking for what a better way is. I want find a better way to i tried copying for a long time but i dont even bother anymore. Android introduced the feature earlier than the iphone yet not only is the iphone version better, androids isnt even worth using. i bet gingerbread will make it a ton better.
In Desire.... to select a portion of text, we have a selection method like iphone, that alowed to stretch and shrink, was better than iphone, because we can send it to google tradutor or even to twitter or email.
Now, in Froyo this method of selection dont work...we have one like WM....and is wast we just can copy!!
What i'm talking is what who can see here just after the 1 minute mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H30u4...layer_embedded
For exemple:
How did you select a portion of text to edit bold, italic or underline??
I give my centims to, who can, make the a phrase like mine up with Froyo
We need a port!
select works in rodriguezstyle's desire port
Is there still no way to port this into another rom like OpenDesire?
Edit: Didn't realise this was the N1 forum sorry (came through search), but guess it still applies.

How do I accurately select text?

After pressing the bottom left hardware botton to select text, I'm having problem placing the cursor to accurately indicate the starting and ending position of the selection. What is the big secret on how to do this operation right?
i have the exact same problem.. i wish the phone had arrows or a trackball.. and when you select text twards the far right of the text box, it auto moves the screen back to the center of the box.. its very difficult, the only advice i can offer is pinch zoom in very close, till the text takes up most of the screen, and highlight better. of course pinchzooming method will only work for email and web pages.. no help for texting..
If I zoom in, then either the beginning of end of the selection block is no longer in view, and dragging does not automatically scroll the screen like in iPhone.
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If I zoom in, then either the beginning of end of the selection block is no longer in view, and dragging does not automatically scroll the screen like in iPhone.
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As someone who is coming from an iPhone I can tell you that this is something that I really miss.
Android needs to learn how to do proper copy and paste (this is not just a Samsung thing).
On a side note, I am really hating the email client on android, this is not a phone very usable in a corporate (Exchange) environment!
Perhaps it is a mistake to omit the trackball?? Looks like trackball is extremely crucial for any Android phone.
Kurtbee, you're right. Google has not thought through the design of copy and paste properly yet.
eaglesteve said:
Perhaps it is a mistake to omit the trackball?? Looks like trackball is extremely crucial for any Android phone.
Kurtbee, you're right. Google has not thought through the design of copy and paste properly yet.
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No, trackballs are a step backwards. Android should simply implement a better way to select text - the iPhone does it beautifully.
I also am not in love with any of the email clients - even K-9 has a crappy/ugly interface. And why isn't there a way to force check email in the Integrated Mailbox?
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No, trackballs are a step backwards. Android should simply implement a better way to select text - the iPhone does it beautifully.
I also am not in love with any of the email clients - even K-9 has a crappy/ugly interface. And why isn't there a way to force check email in the Integrated Mailbox?
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Totally agreeing with you. However, copying Apple might land Google into a law suit, so I think they'll be weary of that.
BTW, for INPUT field only, I accidentally discover a way to accurately do it. Here's how:
1) On the Swype keyboard (that's why it is only limited to input field, unfortunately), draw a North west to south east line going across the upper right corner of the Swipe key. In other word, from the upper case arrow position to the SYM key. This will change the keyboard to one that contacts cursor, home, select all, select, text, cut, copy, paste.
2) Then use the cursor key to move to the one end of the selection block.
3) Press the select text button
4) Move cursor to the other end of the selection box, followed by either a cut or paste key depending on what you want to do. This will copy the block to the clipboard.
Unfortunately, often I need to select from non-input field as well, and there is no solution for that yet.
Hope this little tip helps everyone. Cheers.
Same thing for the samsung keyborad if you press the 123 field for a long time.
Now we need to find a way to do the same on a web page ...
nicoloco said:
Same thing for the samsung keyborad if you press the 123 field for a long time.
Now we need to find a way to do the same on a web page ...
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Thanks, but how do I change the keyboard from Swype to the Samsung keyboard? Is this keyboard from Samsung or from Google?
Just touch the text until you see a pop up.
Then you should have the possibility to change the keyboard
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Got it. Thank!
Wow, thanks guys, this will make typing a lot easier! You would think the arrowy keyboard thing would be more highlighted and easily accesible since it's making the experience much better. Well, maybe in the gingerbread, they didn't hire the Palm UI guy for nothing...
I find it a little difficult, but can usually get it after 2 or 3 tries max.
Maybe using fingernail is more accurate?
Finger nails do not work on capacity touchscreen though. Even if it does, how do you deal with situation where the selection block span outside the screen? There is no provision to scroll the screen during the selection process.
HTC Sense Androids have a great copy-paste feature identical to IPhone. Hopefully it can get ported to galaxy

[Poll] Does anyone really use the trackball for anything?

was just wondering, i rarely catch myself using it, atleast.
Taking pictures, going through screens. But it's most practical use for me is usually selecting small links in web pages when I'm too lazy to zoom in.
I use it every day for:
-Recovery
-Answering / ending calls
-Selecting text / moving cursor / other text functions
There are plenty of other things I use it for, but less frequently.
That goofy little track pad is one of the features I miss most on my Tbolt. Instead, I get HTC's standard arrows to do the same job, and it sucks and doesn't work in Clockwork. I used it for editing text mostly. I wish you could adjust it's sensitivity like on a BlackBerry. I came from a BlackBerry so it felt very natural and useful. For many tasks, it simply the fastest, easiest way to get the job done. I gave up the case I was using on it for a while so I could use it more effectively.
I use it for Recovery
I'm constantly using it for stuff like navigating recovery and clicking on links in the browser. I got big hands and constantly click wrong links even when zoomed in, so the track pad is a life saver.
That is what's keeping me from getting another phone! Ha ha
I use it for recovery, track advance for music, cursor, taking pictures, you name it.. Very useful to me.
I used it for text fields and recovery. There was also one game that had a trackpad control scheme.
Moving around in text is all i use it for.
loonatik78 said:
I wish you could adjust it's sensitivity like on a BlackBerry.
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With the right kernel, you can:
chad0989 said:
As for the OJ, you can adjust settings at /sys/devices/platform/curcial_oj
There's lots of settings but the easiest way is to increase normal_th and sensitivity will go down
just:
echo 4 > /sys/devices/platform/curcial_oj/normal_th
and replace 4 with whatever value you want. Higher value = less sensitive. You'll have to put it in a script in /etc/init.d if you want to set it on boot.
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With the right kernel, you can:
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Wish I would have know that a year ago, but I was all over Ziggy's kernels. My girlfriend hardly messes with it so I'm not going to screw with it. Thank you for the post though.
I love my trackpad. It's keeping me on this phone. No other phone feels right without it and I constantly search for it on any phone I use.
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I use to use it all the time, but CM7 never got the driver working quite right for it, with out gingersource at least.
copy pasting
byrong said:
-Answering / ending calls
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I had no idea you could do it this way. Saves more trouble than waiting for the screen to turn on and then end the call.
I mostly use it for moving the cursor, it's a huge help because a lot of times it just doesn't go exactly where I want it to go when I press the touch screen- so I move it over 1 or 2 characters via trackball. I use this pretty frequently too.
Mostly for Recovery navigation and selection, but for cursor movement, too. And before the proximity sensor worked right, for the answer/end call thing, too. But now it seems to always know when to turn the screen on or off, even in the dark... That's with MIUI.us.
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I had no idea you could do it this way. Saves more trouble than waiting for the screen to turn on and then end the call.
I mostly use it for moving the cursor, it's a huge help because a lot of times it just doesn't go exactly where I want it to go when I press the touch screen- so I move it over 1 or 2 characters via trackball. I use this pretty frequently too.
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Same here. I LOVE the trackball and use it all the time for moving the cursor and copy/paste. I am reluctant to get a new phone without one.
I use it a good bit - flipping through screens, moving cursor - but gained some new tips in this thread!
I use it ALL the time to move the cursor because I make typos all the time in portrait mode. I guess my fingers are too big for the screen keyboard.
When I switch to my iPhone, I am constantly looking for the trackpad when I make a typo. Trackpad is much better than iPhone's crappy magnifier.
I use it to move the cursor to edit something I mis-swyped. That's about it.

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