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OverClocking Aria

Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?

I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus

Has anyone even tried to overclock?

jznomoney said:
Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.

Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?

Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.

gtg465x said:
You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.

I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.

When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.

attn1 said:
When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.

we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .

How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.

I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.

MyTouch 4G

Ok so I know this isn't the right section but intresting facts. Feel free to move to right section MODS.
* Quad says MyTouch max clock freq is 1024.
* Internal Memory states 1.05GB free.
* VISIONary root works and STICKS after reboot!
* Best Stock Quad Score I got was 1963. These were the results;
CPU: 4861
MEM: 1166
I/O: 2930
2D: 291
3D: 567
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^

Snuggl3s said:
Ok so I know this isn't the right section but intresting facts. Feel free to move to right section MODS.
* Quad says MyTouch max clock freq is 1024.
* Internal Memory states 1.05GB free.
* VISIONary root works and STICKS after reboot!
* Best Stock Quad Score I got was 1963. These were the results;
CPU: 4861
MEM: 1166
I/O: 2930
2D: 291
3D: 567
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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I was just playing around with this with some help and couldn't write to /system before or after reboot. I am noobish, but had help and still couldn't do it . . .

You got root to stick with out checking the box for running visionary on boot?
Edit: can you write to system at all? And have it stick after a reboot?
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Hmmmm, yeah visionary is a temporary rooter, yes it sticks if you run it in boot. So basically you're not fully rooted
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Ahh I didn't check write to the system but I dnt have run on boot turned on and when I restarted I was able to run root apps without having to run Visionary again.
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^

Yes that is what the "run on boot" option is for XD case solved
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Whoaaa, you almost had me calling T-Mobile and telling them to send me a MyTouch since I'm still in my remorse period.

He still claims root is persistent though, based on what I am reading.
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I am due for my upgrade right now, I still have my G1 running CM6. I can't choose between the mytouch and the G2. I will just have to wait and see what next week brings.

To clear this all up the mytouch isnt cracked just some1 miss saw what visionary was doing. It has the same root as the g2.
Next time somethung like this happenes you gotta write/delete from "/system" then reboot and see if it sticks
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ostinq said:
I am due for my upgrade right now, I still have my G1 running CM6. I can't choose between the mytouch and the G2. I will just have to wait and see what next week brings.
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Easy choice IMO. G2 has a keyboard, MyTouch doesn't. G2 is stock Android, MyTouch isn't. So on and so forth

Just to make it clear, visionary is a temp rooter no matter how you use it, any system any os any person its still a temp rooter.
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Vandam500 said:
Easy choice IMO. G2 has a keyboard, MyTouch doesn't. G2 is stock Android, MyTouch isn't. So on and so forth
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This could go both ways.

borodin1 said:
This could go both ways.
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Agreed!
Seeing as the Mytouch 4g had 768mb ram, a faster processor, ffc and a solid build, I'd say the choice is obvious. I could careless about a keyboard and its clear that I'm not the only person who feels they way. Sense interface is clean and the widgets are awesome. This phone is a win win.
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Would launcher pro take care of that hidious background for each app?
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I was playing with the Hd yesterday. Thought it was a solid s device. I absolutely hate the way sense looks though. I'm sticking with the G2.
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Launcher pro would take care of the Sense interface for you!
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Im debating the same thing even though the temproot and Overclock on my G2 is smooth jus the thought of a 1 Ghz Snapdragon oppossed to the 800Mhz in the G2 is just sickening hehe imagine if our G2 r stable at 1.4 Ghz OC than think of how high we can clock the MT4G 2 Ghz on an mobile phone would cause anyone to drool lol

aznpr1de808 said:
Im debating the same thing even though the temproot and Overclock on my G2 is smooth jus the thought of a 1 Ghz Snapdragon oppossed to the 800Mhz in the G2 is just sickening hehe imagine if our G2 r stable at 1.4 Ghz OC than think of how high we can clock the MT4G 2 Ghz on an mobile phone would cause anyone to drool lol
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You do realize that the G2 is underclocked with stock right? It's not like the chip is built as 800 mhz and the other is built as 1ghz. I find it crazy that people are still spewing around the 800mhz thing as if the G2 runs like a mytouch slide. Who can even see the difference outside of benchmarks and psx emulators anyway?

Phawkes said:
You do realize that the G2 is underclocked with stock right? It's not like the chip is built as 800 mhz and the other is built as 1ghz. I find it crazy that people are still spewing around the 800mhz thing as if the G2 runs like a mytouch slide. Who can even see the difference outside of benchmarks and psx emulators anyway?
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Just to make it clearer, is the mt4g the same cpu as the g2 but at a higher clock speed? I would rather keep my g2 even if the mt4g has more memory.. the design just doesn't look nice to me.

[Q] Wildfire slower than LG Optimus One P500?

Hey,
My girlfriend got herself an LG Optimus One P500. It's basically same hw specs as wilfire, only it has 600mhz cpu and better display.
However after playing with it I find it much more responsive and faster in general. It feels snappier, AndEngineExamples benchmarks gives 13fps for particles instead of 3fps on wildfire. Abduction2 works flawlessly on lg but not on htc.
Even the game I'm developing runs as breeze on optimus and lags a bit on my wildfire.
I've tried killing all apps with taskmanager on wildfire but it did not help.
Any ideas on what could be making it slow? HTC sense perhaps?
I'm wondering should I just sell my wildfire and get an optimus (which unfortunately doesn't have led flash but has better display) or should I root my phone and just install cyanogen + setcpu to 650mhz?

I'm a Wildfire owner and I tried the P500 from one of my friend...It's much faster...I don't know why...also with CM the Wildfire is much slower than P500...

gimj01 said:
I'm a Wildfire owner and I try the P500 from one of my friend...It's much faster...I don't know why...also with CM the Wildfire is much slower than P500...
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Do you have wildfire with CM? Have you tried overclocking it with SetCPU?

The wildfire doesn't have a gpu. The p500 has one, plus the faster processor equals the fact that the LG is faster and snappier.
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Alex_GP said:
The wildfire doesn't have a gpu. The p500 has one, plus the faster processor equals the fact that the LG is faster and snappier.
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Thanks I guess I'll be selling my wildfire then

arturaz said:
Thanks I guess I'll be selling my wildfire then
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Lol, have fun with your new phone . This is just my opinion, but I don't like LG phones in general xD. Also not many devs for the phone, but since you're not rooting or anything, that wouldn't be a problem.
You also shouldn't use a task manager/killer, that just makes the phone even more slower and use up more battery.

My little brother just got zte blade for xmas and it seems a lot better and it costs 100€ less! Anyway this is my first android so if underevoked would support froyo rooting and I could oc wildfire would be fine

arturaz said:
Do you have wildfire with CM? Have you tried overclocking it with SetCPU?
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Yes...also OC 768 MHz...

What's the point of overclocking???

Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?

bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.

bruceko86 said:
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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blackknightavalon said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.

bruceko86 said:
Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain

It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.

If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).

Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth

Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.

Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.

here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.

I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!

OneGoodKnock said:
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.

I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.

mputtr said:
For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.

HTC Titans CPU versus HTC Desire HD CPU (MSM8255)

Hello everyone!
I've been looking on the web for some time now about the new HTC Titans CPU,
clocked at 1.5GHz, named as Scorpion MSM8255 (same as ours (DHDs CPU)).
What do you guys think about it? Since our MSM8255 can "officialy" only hit 1GHz,
but now HTCs new MSM8255 can get it to 1.5GHz?!
I've searched the wiki also and i cannot find any differences.
Oh wait, is it that T at the end maybe? Just found it now.
HTC Titan: MSM8255T
Okay, so anyone know more about this? Feel free to comment

It's the same chipset. HTC did the same on the Flyer. They just OCed the cpu to 1.5 GHz since the cpu can handle it without problems.
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How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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A fellow Bristolian! Hi!
How easy? Very. 1.3GHz is achievable on the DHD with stock volts (1.1V). Wise? Yeah, anything up to around 1.2V is sensible, and safe is far beyond that.
To be honest, nobody will need to go past 1.3GHz, virtually all ROMs run smoothly at that clock.

Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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affinity121 said:
How easy is it to actually oc the dhd cpu and is it really wise?
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I've had mine at 2GHz. I clocked it down to 1,3GHz after 10 minutes since it got REALLY hot. But it managed to run just fine at that speed.

affinity121 said:
Haha hey nice surprise lol
Oh sounds good. Pretty new to this only just rooted and flashed custom ROM the other day. Wasn't sure if I should OC or not tho. Guessing it's going to reduce an already poor battery life haha
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Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
But it does prove that firstly, the MSM8255 is very overclockable, unlike the larger processed chip in the Desire (which I think will really go as far as 1.2GHz only, correct me if I'm wrong...). The Flyer's processor is exactly the same, just selected (a process called binning) because it is "capable" of running at that speed at the required, and desired voltages with the required stability that the manufacturer (Qualcomm) wants.

lambomanx1 said:
Well, all of the kernels undervolt as well. Almost all of them run the processor at 1.2GHz at stock voltage. So overclocking shouldn't shorten battery life. Also, remember that many of the ROMs have andrev or virtuous OC daemons installed, so they will be underclocked to minimum speed most of the time. So either way, battery life and performance will be improved.
As for overclocking to 2GHz, while it is possible, I'd very strongly suggest you don't do so.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm currently using rcmix runnymede ROM and its not oc'd. Would a OC of 1.3 be wise on stock voltages?
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1.3 might be pushing it. Mine needs 1.125V to be stable. I'd suggest that you probably do the same just in case, or even better 1.150.
The safest thing to do is take a look at the NCTeam kernel voltages, and use those (use IncrediControl from the Market to change voltages). They should work for virtually everybody. 1.3GHz is the speed I needed on Sense ROMs to be very smooth, you might find it is less though.

The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...

Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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314 said:
The desire hd doesnt actually overheat much @ 1.3ghz (I use that + Performance governor when playing some games), so the CPU can probably be overclocked quite alot without any problems
Other phones overheat quite a bit @ stock speeds...
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Just to make sure I was clear, I meant that 1.3GHz could be pushing it on stock voltage, not that it could be pushing the limits of the chipset for speed. I think everyone got that, and knows that, but was just making sure.
As for heat, my phone didn't even heat up at 1.3GHz. You can push very far with no problems.

haerigrek said:
Mine is set to 1,6GHz and it can handle 3d gaming for hours with the case only getting a bit warm. I wrote in a different thread that WP7 is getting an update and it will be able to run on DHD hardware. Maybe some devs will be interested in porting it to DHD then. It would be nice to dual boot Android and WP7. I can almost see all iPhone users faces.
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Don't forget that we need a wp7 bootloader. The android one can't handle wp7. Furthermore we probably have to repartition our internal memory (or sdcard if you want to run it from there) since wp7 uses other partitions than android (not sure about that, but i guess we have to.)
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