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Hello all, I'm trying to help my brother decide on a new verizon phone. I'm stuck with at&t and own a captivate, so I'm familiar with the development community over there. However, I'm a little more clueless with this neck of the woods. Although I've enjoyed my captivate, I'm actually trying to push him to get the Droid X instead of the Fascinate (I thought he would enjoy the bigger screen and a better customer support?).
1. First, is there anything he should be aware of that might give him problems with the Droid X (hardware/software concerns--akin to the troublesome gps of the galaxy s line)?
2. He primarily wants a smart phone to help out his business (a small machine shop) so he can check emails and whatnot. Along with this his biggest request was to be able to use the mobile hotspot function without paying verizon for it (aside from the phone's $30 unlimited data). So my questions for this are:
a. From what I've gathered in the last day, is that he needs to root and install an app like "wireless tether" or something like that. Is the simplest way to root by installing z4root?
b. Is there anything else he needs to do besides the root and the tether app?
c. Is there any risk that verizon could figure out he's tethering a computer while not paying for the service?
Thanks for any help and clarifications. I appreciate any other comments if you'd recommend a different phone (Fascinate or Incredible)--I know, this is in the Droid X forum, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
Z4root is way easy to use, just install and hit one button and you're done. Wireless tether app works well but occasionally it pauses while in sleep mode. Awakening the phone resolves this issue. I also use baranacle wifi tether which seems to have this issue alot less. I'm sure Verizon can guess that you're using a tether app if you use alot of data, but I use far beyond the average amount of data and they have yet to say anything or attempt to charge me extra. I haven't tried the fascinate or incredable so I wouldn't be able to say how they compare to the x but I have been very happy with the performance of mine. Its very snappy and hasn't let me down yet. Oh and I don't use that much GPS so I would also not be able to give you a definitive answer to that as well.
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Zudovex said:
Z4root is way easy to use, just install and hit one button and you're done. Wireless tether app works well but occasionally it pauses while in sleep mode. Awakening the phone resolves this issue. I also use baranacle wifi tether which seems to have this issue alot less. I'm sure Verizon can guess that you're using a tether app if you use alot of data, but I use far beyond the average amount of data and they have yet to say anything or attempt to charge me extra. I haven't tried the fascinate or incredable so I wouldn't be able to say how they compare to the x but I have been very happy with the performance of mine. Its very snappy and hasn't let me down yet. Oh and I don't use that much GPS so I would also not be able to give you a definitive answer to that as well.
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Awesome, thanks! It's good to know that it's pretty simple to do, especially since my brother doesn't have any experience in modding things like this (that's why he turns to his more savvy--nerdier--younger brother).
The GPS was just an example I used to refer to the much maligned failure of the Galaxy S line. I was just wondering if the X had any similar types of downfalls that he should be aware of before being let down later.
Other than the locked bootloader, I've been pretty happy with my DX. And since installing the Liberty 1.5 ROM last Friday, I've been SUPER happy with it. It's a very nice phone, and pretty speedy.
+1 on liberty 1.5, great rom.
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Since we are kinda the minority here we really need to stick together. We should start putting a thread together of our wish lists for developers. I feel like we are kinda behind the curve compared to the GSM folks and hope we can get more people involved in CDMa stuff.
Your thoughts.......
Good idea. . . . Just not enough dev in the sgt anyways. I bought my verizon sgt 2 weeks ago in hopes of something fun to flash like a hc port or CM7. I am dissapoint.
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Others are with you. They just needed to get home from work.
Im not concerned with Honeycomb. Waiting for an HID hack for my VZW tab and maybe a few other small things.
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HID drivers first.
I would love to see Honeycomb, but would settle for Gingerbread right away.
Im in too.
Not a dev, but willing to help
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I am in as well
I am new to this and willing to learn, and will support with beer funds. I am assuming that the vzw efforts will carry over to Sprint since both are cdma devices. I have my galaxy tablet rooted but have not gone any further as I have not fully understood so many of the posts in regards to which are the better rom to use, the best method of flashing based on the rom, so to avoid any of the big issues..aka not booting etc. I am looking for a really good guide to get started. One that says first and foremost fo this before you start so you can recover you device if you really bugger it up.
I was in the same situation as you up until last weekend, notice I avoided using the "same Boat"
for now the first thing you need to get is Heidmall, dl the stock image and warez for your specific unit. If you need help I have aol and Gmail chat, Pm me for that info.
AHHH Another squid friendly hacker....
I don't mind the references to my Squidly Heritage, proudly served!!!!
I can be found on Gtalk at [email protected]
Have not been this syched about anything since my first deployment! Make sure you upload a donate button can't send bear funds with out it.
BTW Thanks!!!
HID or SPP Verizon Galaxy
I may have found a solution for the bluetooth keyboard issue. "keypro" on the market will drive certain SPP keyboards (not HID) it is a little more to work with than the single verizon samsung option for keyboard use. I am waiting for my freedom universal standard keyboard and keypro is supposed to support it. You can download the program free and see what keyboards it supports. I will let you know when my keyboard comes in. Sorry if I am in the wrong posting area I just signed up so I could share this.
Thumbs up dude!
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I'm with you
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Im in man we definetly need to stick together. And while I do really want Honeycomb, I NEEEEEEED HID drivers before anything else! Yay for dev's
I dont profess to be any coding expert, and All I really know anything about is the VZW tab at this point. Sprint files are totally different but loading is the same.
VZW people should be on the look out for a new Kernel from Boushh, Im running it now for 24 hours and its a screamer and totally stable. Latest benchmark was 2221.
It should be out tonight or soon after.
Trying to learn basics of coding and all in the upcoming weeks. Hopefully ill be able to contribute down the road. I bought min early January and am very happy so far.. even with a gingerbread/wp7 hd2 on hand..my tablet is used much more. I have heavily layer into the honeycomblayout/theme and just the changeover to khasmeks work and honeycomb density and layout...I've started using much more. Like I said,I'm really pumped to start deving as I know alot of cdma users will benefit from more work coming to the table..when I start getting confident and have things down pat..even then I can't promise it will be as good as what Boushh has done,but at least it will be an attempt at getting more dev for cdma
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I just want to be able to do voices calls (and Gtalk video chat)
I Feel like im stuck, i have the Sprint GT. Seems there is minimal development for the Sprint GT and having an HTC EVO and using the EVO forums I'm sad.. I would gladly open my wallet as i do in the EVO forums here in the GT forums. Anybody out there feeling my same pain?
I feel your pain. I think I've only a few rooted apps working on my Sprint Tab. Not the end of the world but my Moto Droid is more fun to play with. I'm something of a hack so I don't even know if it's possible to unlock the bootloader but it would be nice to have a few other apps working like the Wireless Tether.
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I understand completely. I bought a Sprint Tab and was shocked at the lack of development (came from incredible which is very similar to Evo). However, after root, CWM, voodoo, and custom kernel, I can say that I don't really desire to do anything else to my Tab. I cleaned up some bloatware myself (freeze/delete) and it runs like a dream. BTW, see this thread if you need help with anything besides root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016758
So don't be too disappointed, with some minor changes (VOODOO!!!) you won't need a custom rom. App performance, battery life, and general usage are all terrific now.
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I feel your pain. I think I've only a few rooted apps working on my Sprint Tab. Not the end of the world but my Moto Droid is more fun to play with. I'm something of a hack so I don't even know if it's possible to unlock the bootloader but it would be nice to have a few other apps working like the Wireless Tether.
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Did you try the one click root method?
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I understand completely. I bought a Sprint Tab and was shocked at the lack of development (came from incredible which is very similar to Evo). However, after root, CWM, voodoo, and custom kernel, I can say that I don't really desire to do anything else to my Tab. I cleaned up some bloatware myself (freeze/delete) and it runs like a dream. BTW, see this thread if you need help with anything besides root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016758
So don't be too disappointed, with some minor changes (VOODOO!!!) you won't need a custom rom. App performance, battery life, and general usage are all terrific now.
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Thanks for the great info! I would really be happy if i could eventually have honeycomb on my GT. Im super happy with performance and size but it looks like all of the alpha and soon to be beta versions for the GT are all GSM or for Verizon. Well i said all that because my 30 trial is up in a few weeks and i dont want to be stuck with 2.2. But im gonna give Voodoo a try, just need to read up on it entirely. Thanks again!
Why don't you try overcome custom rom?
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Why don't you try overcome custom rom?
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I may need to search harder not sure i saw overcome for Sprint.
Thanks..
Honestly guys, aside from Spacemonkey's HC port, there's not much support for the VZW Tab either. All I have are a few root apps, and CWM, which is virtually useless without development. The Xoom already has custom kernels, but nobody seems to be able to get behind the GT on any level. Kinda disappointing, but I'll check out Voodoo, and maybe give that a shot.
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I'm also curious where you got a sprint overcome rom.
Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4
Good to see positive things about the atrix!
I love this phone as well its greatly sized and the screen is really nice and the haptic feedback is phenominal. The speed goes without saying and the battery life is good too.
So glad I switched from an iphone 4
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I agree, it was a great movie.
pzaragoza1 said:
Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4 <if you know the right things to do to make it so- and yes I've had one> tethering, apk powerhouse, webtop ready, rooted monster. We should all enjoy the speed of this phone, as well as its capabilities. I don't like to change roms and all that because of bad experiences, and I feel like I've done all that I can. Just wanted to share with you guys my story, and hopefully encourage utilizing what these great devs have created for us.
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I was like you when i first got my HTC Inc, i was able to root it and all and then do other kewl stuff with it. But when i attempted to install a rom on it, with no research done before hand as to how to properly do so, it really threw me for a loop for a good month before i actually started "asking" people for help on the forums. Overall, everyone was pretty responsive and quite helpful, so i encourage you to try out some of the psuedo-roms available. There are three thus far and they're called psuedo roms because our Atrix bootloaders are still locked, so until it's unlocked we can only make minor changes to the framework of the phone.
If you need any help as to how you can install any of the three available roms, here are some links that will prove quite valuable in your quest to further enhancing the aesthetics and functionalities your phone.
1. This link will help you get your phone rooted and retained after the update . But since you already have it rooted and updated, then you can immediately proceed to Part 3!
2. This link is for the GingerBlur v1.3 psuedo-rom.
3. This link is for the GreyBlur v2.1 psuedo-rom.
4. This link is for the GladiAtrix2 v4.2.3 psuedo-rom and it also has instructions on it =P
Of the three, i've only tried GingerBlur and GreyBlur and haven't had time to get around to GladiAtrix2 yet, but the ones i did try are both great. If i had to recommend one for you, i'd say go with GreyBlur just because of my personal preference, i like the theme and icon set better than the stock and GingerBlur ones.
Another great reason to try the Blur Rom series is that both roms have a "Blocked Advertising" feature! In short, if you have apps that give you pop-up ads, they'll be gone! And probably the one app you'll appreciate this the most for is YouTube, because you won't have those 15 second ads anymore =]
If you need any other help, don't be afraid to ask, the XDA community is very open and responsive =] Btw, glad to see you're enjoying your Atrix, it is truly a great device!
TfzSCVang said:
I was like you when i first got my HTC Inc, i was able to root it and all and then do other kewl stuff with it. But when i attempted to install a rom on it, with no research done before hand as to how to properly do so, it really threw me for a loop for a good month before i actually started "asking" people for help on the forums. Overall, everyone was pretty responsive and quite helpful, so i encourage you to try out some of the psuedo-roms available. There are three thus far and they're called psuedo roms because our Atrix bootloaders are still locked, so until it's unlocked we can only make minor changes to the framework of the phone.
If you need any help as to how you can install any of the three available roms, here are some links that will prove quite valuable in your quest to further enhancing the aesthetics and functionalities your phone.
1. This link will help you get your phone rooted and retained after the update . But since you already have it rooted and updated, then you can immediately proceed to Part 3!
2. This link is for the GingerBlur v1.3 psuedo-rom.
3. This link is for the GreyBlur v2.1 psuedo-rom.
4. This link is for the GladiAtrix2 v4.2.3 psuedo-rom and it also has instructions on it =P
Of the three, i've only tried GingerBlur and GreyBlur and haven't had time to get around to GladiAtrix2 yet, but the ones i did try are both great. If i had to recommend one for you, i'd say go with GreyBlur just because of my personal preference, i like the theme and icon set better than the stock and GingerBlur ones.
Another great reason to try the Blur Rom series is that both roms have a "Blocked Advertising" feature! In short, if you have apps that give you pop-up ads, they'll be gone! And probably the one app you'll appreciate this the most for is YouTube, because you won't have those 15 second ads anymore =]
If you need any other help, don't be afraid to ask, the XDA community is very open and responsive =] Btw, glad to see you're enjoying your Atrix, it is truly a great device!
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Thank you so much for such a great response to my post! I will definitely look more into the psuedo roms. Thank you for the links. I enjoy this phone very much and I would love to make it even better. Oh and happy easter!
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pzaragoza1 said:
Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4 <if you know the right things to do to make it so- and yes I've had one> tethering, apk powerhouse, webtop ready, rooted monster. We should all enjoy the speed of this phone, as well as its capabilities. I don't like to change roms and all that because of bad experiences, and I feel like I've done all that I can. Just wanted to share with you guys my story, and hopefully encourage utilizing what these great devs have created for us.
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Yea I'm loving my mARIX to. Too bad the Matrix is an old Pantech phone from 2008 (the one that could slide out the keypad and the keyboard at the same time)
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Yea I'm loving my mARIX to. Too bad the Matrix is an old Pantech phone from 2008 (the one that could slide out the keypad and the keyboard at the same time)
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Ha! I missed that completely. However, I was embarrassed for about a millisecond because I realized this phone could be called the matrix. So if you were trying to make fun of me, im sorry but you have instead made me realize that calling it the matrix is far better than the atrix. I will change the name so others could know which phone I was talking about, but I will now dub thus beast the matrix. Thanks buddy!
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So glad I switched from an iphone 4
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I switched from an iPhone 3G, needless to say I love this phone.
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
- not too important but how are the stock headphones? is there a remote similar to HTC and Iphone or no?
- and call quality through them if known would be nice too.
- and can i use any 3.5mm headphone or is it specific to moto?
Thankyou
-dieno1001
dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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I can answer some of these but not all as I'm sort of a n00b.
Is rooting the same? Yes, pretty much.
2.3 out? It's not out yet, but in a few weeks.
Is it worth it? Well I am an ex iPhone 4 user, and it's pretty worth it! I am going to be honest though, without having a case, its a you know what to not get scratches even when taking good care of it. Also the build feels cheap if your coming from a more solid phone. this phone is ALL plastic, but its the stuff inside that counts. Also just miss my iPhone 4, lol. it's all i was used to for 3 years.
Personal problems, some apps like facebook dont check in properly, more than 70 percent of the time it doesn't work. GPS is among the best i've seen however, locking on almost instantly. umm camera quality sucks, but the phone is pretty consistent with flash and plays pretty awesome . fast fast fast phone. it has its quirks though, however if your an android user and know what its about, it's probably the phone for you!
Rooting requires downgrading firmware then upgrading to maintain root, iirc.
GB will be released soon no eta though.
Bootloader bypass is being worked on as we speak, 2nd init is working but needs roms.
Right now is the time to get this phone, with the devs working on so many solutions to Moto and Att's lockdown the potential of this phone is incredible.
Also with Netflix coming soon and the qhd display it will get even better, however the yellows on this display seem a little greenish, and has miffed a few people, but I really don't pay much attention to it.
The only problems I have seen is random reboots, all from apps not optimized for this phone.
As far as camera quality, IMO it is the best camera quality I have seen on a phone and that include the iphone4, video is great, the only thing it lacks is stock camera customizing i.e. lens effects, more color options ect., easily rectified with apps.
This is the best phone I have ever owned and would recommend it to anyone looking for something for in a phone.
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dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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1. Yes you can, prob comes down to personal preference.
2. No. I am very happy with the GladRoot method. Do this BEFORE you accept the OTAs.
3. I dont know of a link or have a list sorry.
4. Its coming. Dont listen to everybody anybody in the forum who thinks a few peoples speculations are fact. The fact is Moto has NOT given a date for GB on the Atrix.
5. Its worth it!! Join the party.
6. List of root apps for the Atrix.
dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
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Unfortunately u cant bcoz its more than a skin.. its entrenched within the OS. However freezing apps like Social Networking which are from Motoblur and installing a Lanucher gets rid of most of the problem. You can definitely root. Gingerbreak works flawlessly.
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
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There is Gingerbread leak and I think you can expect a release date of july.
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dieno1001 said:
i'm probably going to get an atrix tomorrow and wondering what the first thing i should do as soon as i open the box. i'm not a 100% android noob. i have rooted and flashed my galaxy tab and I9000m and understand the basics. but i have a few questions like
- Can i Disable Moto Blur or should i?
- is rooting the same as most other devices, debugging mode/super one click etc?
- safe apps to freeze with titanium backup(list or link)
- is 2.3 coming or is it already out?
- is it worth it or should i wait?
- other personal problems or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
- not too important but how are the stock headphones? is there a remote similar to HTC and Iphone or no?
- and call quality through them if known would be nice too.
- and can i use any 3.5mm headphone or is it specific to moto?
Thankyou
-dieno1001
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-You can disable motoblur by installing a pseudo-rom (i suggest gingerblur) or by using third party launcher (i.e. launcher pro) and freezing motoblur through titanium backup.
-Rooting actually is kinda the same(ish). You don't have to root before you ota. You can ota to 1.83 and use gingerbreak to root it. Use this link to install gingerbreak on you phone, http://atrix4ghacks.com/atrix-4g-hacks/how-to-root-atrix-4g/ then run gingerbreak from phone to one click root.
-Gingerbread is coming out in like a few weeks. You can check out the gb preview thread in android dev.
-its worth it
-um it doesn't come with stock headphones, but they sound just as good as iphone with any headphoens.
-call quality is good
one issue it has is that it kinda gets warm (or hot if using for a long time), especially around the bottom portion. oddly it doesn't get nearly as hot on the lower back of the phone as it does at the lower front glass of the phone.
hope i helped
I wouldn't do anything other than root and enable sideloading. Be sure to get the Amazon marketplace for the one free app a day. Most are garbage, but some (like the Nuance FlexT9 keyboard are great. I think Motoblur is fine, despite what many say. Decide for yourself if it really doesn't fit with how you use it. I just chose not to add my facebook account. It works fine in my experience.