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Hey.
Got my X10 a few days ago,
And im the only one with a power problem ?
Having to recharge it alest once a day ?
My batteri drops aprox 12 % per hour, so I usefully charge 2 times a day.
Since 1AM to now (12AM) it went from 100% - 24%. And Ive been sleeping alot, so the phone hasent been muched used either.
What kind of usage are you partaking in? In my experience most smartphones have to be charged daily.
Here's a post from Esato Forums where someone did an extensive battery drain usage test:
http://www.esato.com/board/printpost.php?post=2933402
The last day Ive been using it minimally, and Im on my second charge for the day. All my other phone last 1 day (6am-12pm) before needing charging. But my X10 needs an aditional charge at about 2-3pm..... And even then is as good as empty at 12pm....
I hope its just a small software bug, or something that could be fixed with a reset. Im starting to enjoy this phone, but there are several days a week, I will not have the time to charge it a second time..
Think Ill go for that reset, and see if that helps....
Anyone else with X10, and batteries that drain extremmely quick?
Mine dies after about 8 hours, but this is usually normal with new batteries, it should be better after a few FULL recharge cycles.
TakenName said:
The last day Ive been using it minimally, and Im on my second charge for the day. All my other phone last 1 day (6am-12pm) before needing charging. But my X10 needs an aditional charge at about 2-3pm..... And even then is as good as empty at 12pm....
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Were your previous phones smartphones, just out of curiosity.
Also, you could try to reduce how often TimeScape polls in the background for updates. That might help.
My current iPAQ 910c lasts a full day if I do nothing but the occassional phone call and SMS. However, if I do anything power intensive the battery fails, and the phone is done until it can get 2 hours or so of charge. But that's why I'm looking to replace it... definitely not normal.
I have access to every phone I want.. And Ive only been using smartphones.
(Currently as in sign.).
I dont use timescape or mediascape, so they have been disabled.
And yet the battery only last for aprox 10 hours....
I never had a phone with such a bad battery, however, Ive never had a phone with such big screen or cpu either....
You gain some, you loose some.
And to he who talked about recharging cycles to maximize battery,
this kind of batteries dosent work that way... They are allready maxed..
I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.
roanmy said:
I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.
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I would not say that the my battery is good. but it is ok, i haven't had it fully charged yet, since I did get git yesterday. and it did last about 10 hours or so, from 60 or 70%. with playing music, trying out some things etc. but I worked 5,5 of these hours and was in the movie theater 2 of the other hours.
anyways, I haven't really had much problems with the keyboard either, as you said. the only thing that really buggs me is the damn space button. it is too small! :/ I wen't from an X1 to the X10 no, from using HTC magic before that. But I am starting to get really used to the other keys.
I haven't installed the latest build/patch either.
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Just download "spare apps" and see what apps som drain u battery
My X10 take only 6% on 3 hour on normal use
very very bad battery drain! Left mine on flight mode at 2AM with 50% battery left, before going to bed. Woke up at 11AM and the battery was dead with no usage nor cell connection!
massimax said:
very very bad battery drain! Left mine on flight mode at 2AM with 50% battery left, before going to bed. Woke up at 11AM and the battery was dead with no usage nor cell connection!
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A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.
ukon said:
A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.
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As I wrote before, phone was in standby on flight mode: it means that NOTHING was running nor any 3G data was exchanged. I've had many Android phones (Magic, Hero, Milestone, Nexus, Legend) and in similar conditions they lost only a couple of percentage points of battery, not 50% like X10!! I do love this phone, but heavy battery drains is driving me crazy (and it's definitely not a faulty phone, since I know many many users with the same problem)
roanmy said:
I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.
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I actually think the battery is good too. I recharge every other day, which seems to work fine.
I have bluetooth and wifi off, and mostly doing manual updates for timescape. I do surf quite a bit though, and no problems with battery drain. In my experience, my X10 lasts a lot better than a Satio for example.
Strange how half of the people posting here, have very good batteries (1-2 days), and the other half have extremmely bad batteries (8-12 hours).
I doubt the ones with the bad batteries are "worse user" then the ones with the good batteries......
I'm one of those with lousy battery usage. Hardly use the phone, but drains in no time. However I've ordered 4 new batteries, so gonna test all of them and see if there's a pattern.
Grrr.. Was just setting up my contacts to Facebook.. Took around 20 minutes and drained 21% of my battery.. That's just not okay..
I just left it for 2 hours without doing anything and the battery from 90% dropped to 65%. This is not cool at all. SE we need a solution ASAP.
I'm one of those that get bad battery duration on the X10. I usually leave BT and WIFI on as I did in my N97. By observing who drains most of the battery, I get around 30% for the radio in standby and 20% for BT. The processor is only a small percentage (2%) so I don't belive that the snapdragon cpu can be blamed for bad battery duration. How is it possible that Nokias as the N97 having the same communication hw (GPS, WIFI, 3G, BT...) last for days with similar usage and battery capacity? Ok, the procesors are ony half the speed but I don't belive this makes so much difference...
I own a HTC Nexus also and has slightly better battery duration than the X10 but way far form the N97. I've roorted the phone and can change the CPU speed. It makes very little difference on battery duration if you set 400 or 300MHz instead of 1GHz.
So, it seems what makes all android devices so power hungry is the way the OS handles the communication interfaces, I belive most RF chipsets should have similar power drain and CPU's are idling most of the time. Perhaps symbian has a smarter algorithm to hanlde 3G/GSM/WiFi switching and no services polling the network when the phone is in your pocket.
ukon said:
A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.
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So seeing i am in an area that does not have 3G I will have a problem with battery drain bcuz it will be constantly be trying to connect to HSDPA?
As we all know the battery life sux...... I have tried everything replaced battery, replaced device, tried different roms. But the battery still drains like water. I miss iphone in this case. I think i will be selling this vibrant on ebay. May b i will get nexus one again
Thanks for creating an 'official' thread for this. I was worried that one of the 1000 battery threads weren't the official ones.
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disturkis4u said:
Thanks for creating an 'official' thread for this. I was worried that one of the 1000 battery threads weren't the official ones.
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well now people wont have to create another 1000 because they can use this one.
Congratulations on your first post... and its a complaint. This isn't your blog :\
My battery life ain't bad.
Have fun on that nexus with that washed out smiled screen that can't properly detect mt ..
smashpunks said:
My battery life ain't bad.
Have fun on that nexus with that washed out smiled screen that can't properly detect mt ..
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=) don't you love swype?
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you're doing it wrong.
i've been unplugged for 1 day, 6 hours... and i'm sitting at just under 30%
i've been using wifi at work a lot though, so not much 3g data being pumped
edit: and good luck getting better battery life with the nexus!
How you pulled that off?
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Try not having a bunch of apps like email running that are constantly pulling data.
Evil Apps
GMAIL
Email
Facebook
Twitter
Any IM Client
Pandora
lolcopter said:
you're doing it wrong.
i've been unplugged for 1 day, 6 hours... and i'm sitting at just under 30%
i've been using wifi at work a lot though, so not much 3g data being pumped
edit: and good luck getting better battery life with the nexus!
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what u mean i m doing it wrong
To be fair, running a smartphone without e-mail synced would sort of defeat the purpose (for many). Though to the point of this "official" thread -- I'm thankfully happy with the battery life on my Vibrant, and I have Gmail, Twitter, etc. running.
Let me guess you don't drain your phones battery either during its first use and let it completely charge up (while off) to 100%.
I did this with my wifes and mine. This has been the best battery life I've had out of a smart phone to date. I've gone up to 36 hours on one full charge. However normal is 18 hours then I charge when I go to bed and I don't even have the warning that my battery is dying.
I hate restarting my phone, it always resets my battery stats. I love seeing how long I can go .
I'm glad we have an official thread now.
ZombieDude00 said:
Let me guess you don't drain your phones battery either during its first use and let it completely charge up (while off) to 100%.
I did this with my wifes and mine. This has been the best battery life I've had out of a smart phone to date. I've gone up to 36 hours on one full charge. However normal is 18 hours then I charge when I go to bed and I don't even have the warning that my battery is dying.
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can i still do this? and does it matter if i charge it with wall charger or the usb?
ZombieDude00 said:
Let me guess you don't drain your phones battery either during its first use and let it completely charge up (while off) to 100%.
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I've read that this isn't necessary with Li-ion batteries (and in fact completely draining can be bad, though phones have a built-in protection mechanism to prevent total discharge)?
I will add that I briefly owned a Nexus One, and find the Vibrant's battery life to be much better... but "YMMV," i guess
completely draining IS bad, but our phone cuts off before this should be an issue (hence why, even if dead, you can still cut your phone on... though for not very long, this is not advised).
That said, the Vibrant has had VERY good battery life for me.... I also think the OP is "doing it wrong."
Seriously. How much do you do on the phone. The only way I drain this thing is surfing and downloading. I dont really have a lot of widgets. I guess if ur running alot of stuff you'll be burning battery life
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2012iawait said:
As we all know the battery life sux...... I have tried everything replaced battery, replaced device, tried different roms. But the battery still drains like water. I miss iphone in this case. I think i will be selling this vibrant on ebay. May b i will get nexus one again
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Changed battery, changed device, changed ROMS. Only two things I see in common, the Vibrant and you. Personally I haven't had any issues with the Vibrant.
Just checked my battery status.
70%, unplugged for 8h 7m 38s
Display - 25%
Mediaserver - 24%
Cell Standby - 23%
CPU usage for Mediaserver - 1h 15m
Approx 1 hour of music and 5 podcasts.
Applications that I'm running that sync:
Facebook
Gmail
Google Voice
Google Talk (usually intercepts the first message then focus switches to my Desktop client)
Email via personal IMAP server (synced every 30minutes)
Yahoo Fantasy Football App
Mint App
bought the phone last week, charged to 100% with the phone off then began using it non-stop. the battery wasn't that great at first, but i have since gone through about 2-3 full cycle charges, usually draining the phone until shutoff, then leaving it on USB charge overnight. charged to 100% by the morning, then i would turn the phone on and charge a bit more until it read 100% while on. since then i have charged a couple times with the phone on, here and there. my last charge was with the phone off, wall charged overnight. no top off needed.
all syncing and background data turned on
use wifi at work, set to never turn off
3g disabled unless i need it
auto brightness
settings > sound and display > DISABLE "power saving mode"
use black.png background because i like how dark it is
don't use any data grabbing widgets
it's been 32+ hours since i last unplugged and i'm sitting at 22%
two full days use off a single charge is a-okay in my book! other peoples' use may vary, but this is my personal setup. i think doing a couple of full cycle charges in the beginning really helps. i'm completely satisfied with my current battery life, even with all the speed tests, wifi/3g surfing, and goofing around with the GPS
Rather than clogging up other threads with my battery experiences, I thought I'd summarise where I'm at, and see how other people are doing with their battery life.
So I started yesterday on a full charge, and by 2ish the phone was dead. I used it fairly heavily, but wifi was off. I don't think I made any phone calls, and didn't use gps. It was mainly messaging and using the xda app. I had changed my screen brightness to auto the night before, so thought this might have reduced the battery life.
I then left the phone off, and charged through till just before 5pm. At this stage, the phone was up to between 90-100% charge. My intention was to see if I could get through to this afternoon on this charge. Last night I made a phone call for about half an hour, and used gps for about 10 mins driving in the car. Other than that it was a bit of messaging and browsing, but not heavy use by any stretch of the imagination. I had wifi off, facebook sync every 4 hours, and screen brightness set to about 50%.
This morning I woke to less than 10% charge on the battery, so have left the phone at home charging, and I'm back to my hero...at least for the morning.
I must admit, I'm starting to get concerned, because I really don't think I'm using this phone more than my Hero, and I could easily get a day out of it (unless I was going for a long run using some kind of gps app).
What are other people's experiences? I'm surprised I'm not hearing more about this, and I'm hoping mine is just a one off!
**UPDATE**
Today, 12 hours after taking my phone off charge, I have just under 20% charge remaining. The phone is now on it's fourth cycle, and although I haven't used the phone quite as heavily as yesterday, I have still used it quite a bit and have had WiFi on the whole time. This is still not amazing battery life, but it is still much improved. It definitely illustrates that the battery may take a few charge cycles before it optimises itself.
My first full day was yesterday.
WiFi on all the time. Screen brightness set to automatic. Twitter and facebook refreshing every hour. Weather every 4 hours.
Unplugged the phone at 7am, 100% charge.
During the morning I flashed the phone twice (due to the proximity sensor issue) so it probably recieved an extra 10 mins of charge.
Following the flashing, WiFi went straight back on so I could download all the apps again, and resync sense and all the contacts. There was some playing of games, some use of Google Goggles (so camera use there) and some web browsing.
By 13:00 I was down to 90% battery - which was pretty good I thought.
Through the afternoon I didn't get to use the phone much apart from a couple of short gaming sessions.
By 17:00 I was down to 80%. I got home from work and played around on the phone until my wife got home and we went out for a meal. The pub we were in had no signal, and I didn't really play around with the phone.
By the time I got home and went to bed, the phone was probably around 65% full.
So not a heavy day of use, but not far off a standard day for me - so not too bad as far as I'm concerned. Certainly about 30% better than my Touch Pro2 was!
I think we need to define a consistent way to measure battery life for Android.
Something like ACID test for web ... Quadrant for benchmark ...
I don't know, maybe we can agreed on something how to measure it. Or build an app to simulate phone usage which user should run it continuosly and then at the end got the result: Your battery life is rated 4 hours, 10 minutes straight using this test.
Probably not the best measurement, but it should give us a "number" to compare with other devices.
I can only suggest (I am not a developer), but I believe there are a lot of talented coders here in XDA which should be able to build this kind of "standard" app battery measurement pretty easily.
Somebody is recommending 3-4 full charges cycles for battery optimization. Do you think it will really help?
Battery is really deal breaking issue for me.
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
jiidaineko said:
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
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My friends also lasted over a day with pretty good use, there seems to be better results with the brightness on auto...from what I have picked up on the forum...maybe a test is need to see how much difference there is between full brightness on one battery charge and auto on the other.
Yupe, the battery benchmark should not be so complicated.
Start the app with 100% Battery life
Some options in the app (for features that might NOT be in an Android phone or might not be available at the time?):
[ ] Turn on Wifi
[ ] Turn on GPS
[ ] Turn on Bluetooth
Set the app to WAKE all the time, display turned ON all the time of the test
Set Keyguard to OFF (device will not be locked)
Set Brightness to AUTO
Set all speakers to SILENT
Set vibration to OFF
Then loop until battery down to 5%, perform the below tasks in sequence:
* Play movie for 15 minutes [speaker muted]
* Browse to website??? be careful not to overload the website
* Doing arithmatic
* Doing 3D
* Play MP3 [speaker muted of course]
As soon as the battery down to 5%, app stop and display result ...
And of course restore all the settings.
The app should use generic API that is supported by Android, not some hacky wacky if you know what I meant.
Please if someone can code this, that would be very nice! Standard XDA Battery Measurement app for Android!
jiidaineko said:
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
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gogol said:
Yupe, the battery benchmark should not be so complicated.
Start the app with 100% Battery life
Some options in the app (for features that might NOT be in an Android phone or might not be available at the time?):
[ ] Turn on Wifi
[ ] Turn on GPS
[ ] Turn on Bluetooth
Set the app to WAKE all the time, display turned ON all the time of the test
Set Keyguard to OFF (device will not be locked)
Set Brightness to AUTO
Set all speakers to SILENT
Set vibration to OFF
Then loop until battery down to 5%, perform the below tasks in sequence:
* Play movie for 15 minutes [speaker muted]
* Browse to website??? be careful not to overload the website
* Doing arithmatic
* Doing 3D
* Play MP3 [speaker muted of course]
As soon as the battery down to 5%, app stop and display result ...
And of course restore all the settings.
The app should use generic API that is supported by Android, not some hacky wacky if you know what I meant.
Please if someone can code this, that would be very nice! Standard XDA Battery Measurement app for Android!
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the app should log the result too.. since some phone is dead by time 5% due to calibration..
@Dazultra2000: I would almost trade the proximity sensor problem for the battery life you're getting!
In any case, I'm gonna leave my phone charging till half an hour after the green light comes on, then I'm gonna try another day of normal usage. I'm going to turn wifi back on, as I usually would, and set screen brightness to auto.
With my Hero I used to go for runs using a GPS app to log the route, I'm not going to bother trying that with this phone until I'm sure I can survive a day.
Basil3 said:
I then left the phone off, and charged through till just before 5pm. At this stage, the phone was up to between 90-100% charge. My intention was to see if I could get through to this afternoon on this charge. Last night I made a phone call for about half an hour, and used gps for about 10 mins driving in the car. Other than that it was a bit of messaging and browsing, but not heavy use by any stretch of the imagination. I had wifi off, facebook sync every 4 hours, and screen brightness set to about 50%.
This morning I woke to less than 10% charge on the battery, so have left the phone at home charging, and I'm back to my hero...at least for the morning.
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I don't know when you wake up but that could be like 14 - 15 hours that you mentioned which possibly isn't all that bad (plus the extra 10% you had remaining). Personally I want to see what it's like when you unplug it at 8am, not at 5pm the night before since I can't see any good reason not to leave the phone charging over night anyway.
If you then manage to get about 10 to 12 hours or so then there probably isn't much issue. Granted you weren't using it while asleep so the battery shouldn't drain overly quick but I wouldn't want to use your test as an example of a days use.
Thanks for the info but. If I was you I'd just have a car charger too if you like to use GPS...I can't see any reason not to.
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I don't know when you wake up but that could be like 14 - 15 hours that you mentioned which possibly isn't all that bad (plus the extra 10% you had remaining). Personally I want to see what it's like when you unplug it at 8am, not at 5pm the night before since I can't see any good reason not to leave the phone charging over night anyway.
If you then manage to get about 10 to 12 hours or so then there probably isn't much issue. Granted you weren't using it while asleep so the battery shouldn't drain overly quick but I wouldn't want to use your test as an example of a days use.
Thanks for the info but. If I was you I'd just have a car charger too if you like to use GPS...I can't see any reason not to.
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Yeah, I would normally charge overnight, but since I had given a charge through to 5pm I wanted to see how it lasted....see if I could get through 24 hours. I wake up at 5am, so that was around 12 hours, with only 5-6 of those hours being time when I would've actually been using the phone. This is also bearing in mind that I had started yesterday on a full charge and the phone was dead by 2pm.
The GPS thing in the car was only to do a quick test, literally 10 mins. I need to buy a new car charger with micro USB, but I just made a note that I had done this because I knew it would affect the battery.
Anyway, we'll see what today brings.
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Anyway, we'll see what today brings.
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Looking forward to it.
And yeah, for me personally a "days" charge really only needs to equate to about 12 - 14 hours. Thats probably the longest I'll go without having a charge anyway unless I'm camping or something in which case I'll likely fall back to a Nokia anyway.
Hi, just to add my experience with a complete different phone e.g. iPhone 3GS (developing apps on it, now switching to Android ):
Charge at night till 8 a.m. so 100% then usually in a day:
- Go to office, read/write emails, surf a bit on forums, blogs and so on
- Make call up to 30-60 minutes per day
- Play some games, test our application/games on it (so connect and receive some extra charge)
- Use WiFi at office
- Use Google Maps up to 15 minutes per day
- Back at home at 8 p.m.
- Use again emails and surf on web for 30 minutes
Around 11-12 p.m. it has less than 25% of battery, so 14-15 hours of usage drain battery up to finish it, not to mention that I'm forced to switch off push notification because they drain my battery in 5 hours!!!!
So just to say that, no one is perfect, and this devices today really do a lot of stuff, I think as Smigit suggest 12-14 hours are acceptable.
Have also tested/used iPhone 4, I don't seen any big improvements on that side.
Just my two cents...
praying for decent battery, please please please!
My HTC legend is pretty poor really, but I can live with it. If DHD is worse I don't think I can pull the trigger.
There is a thread in th Legend section about 1800mh HTC batteries (from another phone) that fit the Legend. Maybe there will be an option to do something similar with DHD.
I would pay £50 more for a 1500mh battery - why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
GeoMil said:
why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
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LOL, that's why everyone wonders
GeoMil said:
praying for decent battery, please please please!
My HTC legend is pretty poor really, but I can live with it. If DHD is worse I don't think I can pull the trigger.
There is a thread in th Legend section about 1800mh HTC batteries (from another phone) that fit the Legend. Maybe there will be an option to do something similar with DHD.
I would pay £50 more for a 1500mh battery - why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
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can anyone confirm that the 1800mAh for Droid Incredible (that fits HTC Legend) fits desire HD too???
override182 said:
can anyone confirm that the 1800mAh for Droid Incredible (that fits HTC Legend) fits desire HD too???
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maybe a photo or model no(if any) of battery can help us?
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maybe a photo or model no(if any) of battery can help us?
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maybe no.. cuz its slided up.. ive just noticed while watching the vid.. hurm.. good luck for us waiting for a 1800mAh then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il1NBIJdx5M
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...d-battery-for-htc-legend-bb00100-1800mah.html
No the battery doesnt fit with the Desire HD, if you watch some pictures of your 1800mah battery and than go and take a closer look at the DHD's battery, you will recognize that the pins of the DHD-battery are on its side. the pins from the Incredible Battery are on the bottom.
In 2 hours 30 min heavy heavy heavy use, the battery dropped 20%.
Will do a full day test 2 morrow.
Before getting this phone I did my fair share of research on it and every review said the same thing, super phone...terrible battery. Now I never owned a touch screen phone before this so I had no idea what the desire, Samsung or iphone battery life's were like and all these reviews were causing me some concern and led me to believe that my phone would be dying over 9 hours or so due to lack of power.
Now having had my desire HD a few days I just want to say wow what was all the fuss about? I get a full 24 hours use out of a full charge without taking any precautions to save the battery. When I'm at home I leave my wifi on continuously, it was on for a good 14 hours yesterday. When I go out I switch over to 3g and turn wifi off...only used this for an hour or too since I wasn't out much. And remember I only got this phone a few days ago...so the usage has been pretty heavy as I fiddle around with it, doing some web browsing, have all my accounts and widgets syncing, play a few games, making some calls. On the first day I got it yes I drained the battery in 9 hours but that was super heavy use...i.e. I didn't put it down once in those 9 house.
This phone easily makes it through 24 hours with perfectly normal use without having to worry about the power levels. Great phone and I love my first android to bits!
I'm glad to hear some positive things about the battery as Verizon has the incredible HD coming I plan to purchase when they get LTE.One thing though that you may not know is your wifi wasn't running continuos, it shuts off when your screen shuts off and comes back on when you turn it back on unless you fool with the wifi settings and tell it "never" turn off. But overall I'm glad to hear that
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Does it drop the wifi when the screen is off by default? Not so on my standard desire as far as I am aware - unless this is something new in the HD rom?
Good to hear the battery is lasting well according to the op. Little 3g use though it seems and it is this that cains my desire.
There seem to be some mixed opinions on the battery life. I use mine quite heavily and have to admit that the battery life isnt the best that i've had but i'm happy with it as it lasts me what i consider a 'normal' day, ie, take it off charge at 7.45AM and after a days use (calls, internet and syncing all day every 15 minutes, music, wifi and bluetooth left on) and it gets me home for around 7PM with a bit of charge left. That for me is a normal day, if I know i'm doing anything else i'll put it on charge in the office/car. If I need satnav i'll always use a charger anyway.
So... For me it's OK, but not good, could have done with a higher capacity battery.
No Battery Issues At All
I received my HTC Desire HD 2 days back and have no worries about the battery at all.
On first charge it lasted over 12 hours and I was using it VERY heavily. I'm currently on my second charge now and after 24 hours of medium to high usage, I have 40% remaining.
I always have my syncs set to update/refresh as often as possible, so mail is every 5 mins, weather every hour, facebook every hour, have Google and HTC Sense syncing too. I've also left my wireless setting to stay connected even when the phone is on standby and am getting this performance out of the battery.
So it just leads me to believe that anyone saying this phone's battery is poor must not have used a smartphone before.
And with regards to the WiFi settings, you have 3 options. Go to Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi Settings, press Menu then select Advanced. It's the Wi-Fi Sleep Policy you want to take a look at. Like I said, you have 3 options; After 15 min, Never when plugged in and Never. Someone said you can have it turn off whenever you go into standby, this is not entirely accurate. With the After 15 min option, it turns off WiFi if you are in standby for 15 mins. With Never when plugged in it's the 15 min rule again except when plugged in. With Never, it just constantly stays on.
By default it is set to Never. I've left it as this to test how much it eats up the battery and I have no issues.
P.S. It's always best to do a full charge/recharge when you have a new battery to get it to use the full capacity. Charge the phone fully and use it until it dies. Charge it fully again, not taking it off charge until done, then let it die. Do this a few times and you should see the capacity go up. After this you can charge however you like although after time (months), you may see the capacity seem to come down, in which case do this again a few times and you should be good to go.
The battery on my HTC Hero came down to lasting 12 hours after 9 months. Did this a few times and not it lasts about 36 hours.
Yes I have my wifi set to never switch off...it still does all its sync'ing and mail retrieving whilst in stand by mode. I even went into the battery usage last night before I charged it up again and it had been running on the battery for 24 hours and 15 minutes and I checked the wifi usage and it said it had been in use for 13-14 hours and it had only used a small amount of power (less than 12% if I remember correctly)
i agree..
Its just as good if not better then the other smartphones i had.
battery is good.
just keep the brightness at 30%
2 days since I charged my Desire HD and it's at 40%, much better.
Wifi to turn off after 15 mins in standby, brightness at 100%, mobile data is turned off unless I'm out of the house (in that case, I turn off wifi) and that's with Buzz's overclocked 1.5GHz kernel.
I think any time mobile data is turned off the battery life is going to sky rocket!
Fortunately, by using ultimate juice you can automate this - using wifi when available and mobile data at other times without having to manually switch. Better still, this leaves both off unless the screen is active. Made a hell of a difference to my Desire.
i keep mobile data off (only turn it on when i'm out of range of a usable wi-fi)
screen brightness is at 30%
I use "Set CPU" to lower the CPU to 256Mhz when the screen is off.
I get all my mail via gmail.
there's also a hidden app (can't remember how to start it but it's a *# code)
you cna use that to set what type of mobile network it looks for (I've defaulted to use GSM but use 3G when required).
This keeps the mobile form constantly looking for a 3G signal when youre in a bad signal area (or in the bottom of your bag!) But this won't affect data, only voice calls.
The constant looking for networks is one of the biggest drains on a mobiles battery after the screen/light.
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there's also a hidden app (can't remember how to start it but it's a *# code)
you cna use that to set what type of mobile network it looks for (I've defaulted to use GSM but use 3G when required).
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Please try and remember, I would like to experiment with this ... unless it's for the 3 network only?
I've had about 8 HTC phones in the past few years and I've always been very pleased. Lime many others before buying the DHD I did my research and got a little worried about battery life. I wish people would just post opinions for the sake of it (especially in the first day or two of use) because it's very misleading. After having the DHD for a while now I can honestly say that I'm really impressed with it especially with the battery life.
I previously owned the HTC Desire and at first had much worse battery than the DHD mainly because of the AMOLED screen and it needed some tweaking after root. At the end I was getting at 3 days of battery with all the common daily abuse.
With the DHD I got 2 days right form the start and you know what it's like in the first few days. You pull it out for no reason, play with it, show it to everybody try everything and even so it lasted 2 days. Now that I'm back to just the normal use/abuse I get 3 days with no root, no custom rom or other tweaks.
SO anyone doubting the DHD battery life, FEAR NOT it's a great device!!!
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I agree great device but could you please put your battery up on ebay for auction as I think you've got an amazing battery and could make Fair few hundred pound from it or even send to htc so they can use as prototype and make all of us replacements that lasts days like yours.
I personally think the battery sucks but with the hardware you carnt expect much more from the battery thy choose for this device.
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My battery is about a week old. It wont make it through a working day (8 hours) if i use the phone for anything. It wont even last a morning (2 hours) if I'm making calls and browsing net more intensively.
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So it just leads me to believe that anyone saying this phone's battery is poor must not have used a smartphone before.
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Not true. I've had several smart phones, and I can't last a full day doing the same things that I did with my Hero. I don't have anything syncing regularly either. Weather every 3 hours is about it.
wmfreak said:
I previously owned the HTC Desire and at first had much worse battery than the DHD mainly because of the AMOLED screen and it needed some tweaking after root. At the end I was getting at 3 days of battery with all the common daily abuse.
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3 days of use? By my reckoning the main dictator of battery life is screen on time. I find that I get 3 to 4 hours of screen on usage time out of a charge. This would equate to an hour a day to last for 3 days. Unfortunately I use my phone a lot more than that.
I'm not doubting other people's opinions, but I'm seriously starting to think that I got a dud battery or something.
Try *#*#4636#*#*
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Please try and remember, I would like to experiment with this ... unless it's for the 3 network only?
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Blinkydamo said:
Try *#*#4636#*#*
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Yup that's it!
*NOTE*
i'm not sure what this setting may do to your phone on your network, but take note of all settings before you have a play around...
"call" that number to get the "Testing" screen up.
go to "Phone Information"
Scroll down and change "WCDMA preferred" to "GSM auto (PRL)"
See this post for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688492
Thanks both Blinkydamo and s0litaire.
Some interesting stuff there, not sure how it will help me if at all but I guess I will have to experiment...
I have HTC's since it came from QTEK.. I had 5 HTC before Desire HD.
Before this I had a HD2 (leo), and matching the most options possible between them, this is the faster draining phone that I had after HTC diamond.
Actually I've always thought that the HD2 due to the screen size had a very good battery.
I've been using desire HD a LOT since it's the first android that I had put my hands on my own, so I can be due to that, but most of the time I getting like 5hours or less from it which is getting me frustrated for the first time. Also there is a problem with this model, they probably won't be able to do a oficial expanded battery with this type of battery slot, due to the configuration.
However, I'll try to avoid touch it too much than the "normal" and see how it goes.. But I'm pretty sure that it's way faster draining than my older HD2.
BTW, I'm using "GSM auto (PRL)"
Hey guys,
Just created this thread so we could all have our battery life info in once place and keep the dev thread from getting cluttered.
Please post the following info:
1. Standard or Fully Loaded version
2. Total hours unplugged and percentage
3. Details (percentage and time) for each service
4. And any pertinent details such as apps used (juice defender), or extended batterys
Also, please don't forget to calibrate, airplane bug fix, and kill that drm.
Ex. (will edit with final time)
1. Loaded
2. Total - 8h50m @66%
3.
Display - 55m 78%
Cell standby - 8h50m 9%
Wifi - 6h40m 7%
Phone idle - 7h54m 4%
Voice - 1m 3%
4. Juice defender, setcpu @ 100/1000
Ideally we want to wait for a full drain to post stats but this is just an example. Thx guys looking forward to seeing what you all are getting.
Just installed it will get back to you in a couple of days after recalibrating my battery.
Btw, i hear Juice defender does more harm than good...
bighuta said:
Just installed it will get back to you in a couple of days after recalibrating my battery.
Btw, i hear Juice defender does more harm than good...
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Hm I'll have to test with it on and off. I use it because I get spotty service in my house and don't want it searching for signal all the time.
My explanation for for seeming disparity in battery results: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11853400&postcount=1229
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My explanation for for seeming disparity in battery results: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11853400&postcount=1229
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Interesting. I think you are right, we are essentialy minimizing out idle drain to a certain extent. However, even activily using my phone it drans slower than stock with this rom. My next run ill try and use it all day to see what I get.
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adrift02 said:
Interesting. I think you are right, we are essentialy minimizing out idle drain to a certain extent. However, even activily using my phone it drans slower than stock with this rom. My next run ill try and use it all day to see what I get.
I dont get 30 hours with heavy useage. I what to know what people think heavy usage is
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Battery drain
Hello everyone, noob here. I can't post in the development forum on this but it pertains to the battery and charge to a degree. Maybe someone here can help me in some sort of way.
I rooted and flashed the SyndicateROM Frozen yesterday, used it all day and never a hiccup. This thing is lightning fast and props to the dev's but here is the only issue I found. This morning after waking up I noticed the phone was stuck on the ACS android startup icon. I plugged in to charge last night and it's like it froze the phone when it reached full charge. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks for any help that I receive.
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I rooted and flashed the SyndicateROM Frozen yesterday, used it all day and never a hiccup. This thing is lightning fast and props to the dev's but here is the only issue I found. This morning after waking up I noticed the phone was stuck on the ACS android startup icon. I plugged in to charge last night and it's like it froze the phone when it reached full charge. Anyone else experience this?
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I think I read in the dev thread that it's a known problem with the kernel? Or maybe it was the rom... or CWM? anyways the dev's know about it. Just don't charge your phone when it's off.
Battery for me seems to be a lot better than stock, but I'm always charging here and there... today I'll let it run without charging for 4-5 hours and I'll report back. Using a lot of setCPU profiles.
heroforme said:
Hello everyone, noob here. I can't post in the development forum on this but it pertains to the battery and charge to a degree. Maybe someone here can help me in some sort of way.
I rooted and flashed the SyndicateROM Frozen yesterday, used it all day and never a hiccup. This thing is lightning fast and props to the dev's but here is the only issue I found. This morning after waking up I noticed the phone was stuck on the ACS android startup icon. I plugged in to charge last night and it's like it froze the phone when it reached full charge. Anyone else experience this?
Thanks for any help that I receive.
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Are you charging it with the power OFF? Lots of people were posting issues of freezing when charging with the battery off --- and I think the probs are related to CWM -- not the ROM. Only charge while the phone is on -- and you should not see problems.
I put on to charge with the power on last night because I had set the alarm to wake me up and it never did so that is when I noticed it. I don't think I've ever charged it with the power off, even when it was stock.
Maybe the dev's will come up with a fix sometime in the future. As for now, I'm happy as hell 'cause this ROM is great.
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I put on to charge with the power on last night because I had set the alarm to wake me up and it never did so that is when I noticed it. I don't think I've ever charged it with the power off, even when it was stock.
Maybe the dev's will come up with a fix sometime in the future. As for now, I'm happy as hell 'cause this ROM is great.
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Did this just happen once? If it doesn't happen over and over, I wouldn't consider it a bug. I have only heard of issues like you describe with the power off.
I'm looking at 12 hours on ACS Frozen on average. I haven't even gotten close to the rumored 30 hours with "heavy use" I think my use has been moderate. My battery use log only only lists display 98% and cell standby 2%. This confuses me. I do more than sit there staring at my homescreen.
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I'm looking at 12 hours on ACS Frozen on average. I haven't even gotten close to the rumored 30 hours with "heavy use" I think my use has been moderate. My battery use log only only lists display 98% and cell standby 2%. This confuses me. I do more than sit there staring at my homescreen.
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How you use your phone makes a difference and while 30h is possible, I don't see it happening with heavy use unless that is little display use. Below is my most recent "heavy use" run. Basically tried to use the phone all day, xda app, browsing, mainly wifi, 0% screen brightness.
1. Loaded
2. 8h7m @5%
3.
Display - 5h33m 95% <- serious display use which kills the phone quick
Wifi - 4h56m 2%
Cell standby - 8h7m 2%
Voice - 4m30s 2%
4. Setcpu @100/1000, juicedefender, 0% brightness
Pretty good considering the insane display usage. With normal use I get over 20h so that just shows how fast it kills your battery. Going to do an "extreme" run next to include heavy cpu use (play emulators all day haha).
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How you use your phone makes a difference and while 30h is possible, I don't see it happening with heavy use unless that is little display use. Below is my most recent "heavy use" run. Basically tried to use the phone all day, xda app, browsing, mainly wifi, 0% screen brightness.
1. Loaded
2. 8h7m @5%
3.
Display - 5h33m 95% <- serious display use which kills the phone quick
Wifi - 4h56m 2%
Cell standby - 8h7m 2%
Voice - 4m30s 2%
4. Setcpu @100/1000, juicedefender, 0% brightness
Pretty good considering the insane display usage. With normal use I get over 20h so that just shows how fast it kills your battery. Going to do an "extreme" run next to include heavy cpu use (play emulators all day haha).
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You did that with a standard battery? I haven't seen anyone post more than 4 hours of display "time on". That's impressive. Maybe I should try 0% brightness. I have mine at 25%. Are you on "Conservative" on SetCPU?
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I'm looking at 12 hours on ACS Frozen on average. I haven't even gotten close to the rumored 30 hours with "heavy use" I think my use has been moderate. My battery use log only only lists display 98% and cell standby 2%. This confuses me. I do more than sit there staring at my homescreen.
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The 98% means that 98% of your battery use is coming from the screen. Click on where is says 98% and look at see what the use details are (the "time on"). Generally, most people are getting less than 4 hours of display time on with a single charge. The explanation is that some people stretch 4 hours of display time over 30 hours of use. In other words, the people who are getting 30 hours of use only have their screen on 10 - 15% of the time (or less).
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You did that with a standard battery? I haven't seen anyone post more than 4 hours of display "time on". That's impressive. Maybe I should try 0% brightness. I have mine at 25%. Are you on "Conservative" on SetCPU?
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Yes, using the standard battery. Setcpu is on conservative. I always use 0% as it looks great (kick it up tp 25-50% outside). I think I was able to get that long of display use due to minimizing cpu usage and other services. All I did is browse in dolphin and use xda app. And, that was pretty much all on wifi. Only change was the hour I was at the dog park on 3g and I recorded a 5 min video.
I bet my gaming session tomorrow will kick it down to ~4 hours
With phone calls, texting, and music player, I average between 16-18hrs. If I start to web browse or watch videos then about 8-12hrs. Very impressed with this ROM to say the least.
1. Standard
2. 31 @ 5%
3. don't have that it was yesterday
4. standard battery, auto brightness, overclocked to 1.2, wifi on when I was at home and 3g at work.
I calibrated the day after froyo dropped. I didn't do the airplane thing and I thought drm was not in this rom. So in other words I didn't do any fancy stuff.
I will note today I tried 1ghz (which is undervolted) with 4G on all day (I have a repeter on my roof at work) and after 14.5 hours I am at 30% with about the same concistancy of usage as yesterday.
Edit: I only have 1 gmail syncing right now. We will see if I get these magical numbers when I put my other 2 gmail accounts and my 3 actice sync exchange accounts on Monday.
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I'm getting mixed battery life. The first day on the rom/kernel I dropped down to 79% in 9 hours, with medium use (no web browsing). I was getting 1% drop every 1-2hrs, and thought it was amazing. Today I tried to be really conservative and didn't use it at all and it dropped 4-5% every hour WHILE IDLE.
Anyone else experiencing the same problem? It seems to happen after a reboot to be honest.
NOTE: If I disable data network mode, battery life is amazing,
I'm not sure about my battery life. I charge mine differently than the average person though. I charge it at work and leave it in my desk, because I use it a lot during my lunch break or whenever I get any downtime. When I get home it's usually at about 70%, and it remains unplugged until the next day. I used to have to charge it at home and at work.