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since i sold my iphone to buy a desire there has only been one thing that i have missed having. and that is being able to stream video content from my pc over my home wifi network onto my phone. i did this with an app called air video on the iphone. it converted all video while streaming it so i could play my divx videos from pc onto my phone anywhere in range of my wifi network without having to convert them first.
is there anything that lets me do this for android?
Gmote 2.0 will do this for you
Be warned need to have the right player for the file extension.
i.e. cant play .avi files as android doesnt have a good player etc..
I do this using stock apps on my phone, and a simple webserver on the other end.
I've done this with relative ease...
Any modern webserver with directory browsing enabled (IIS7/Apache)
Ability to modify/add content types within the webserver
Local cache of h264 or 3gp media (i.e. streamable)
Browse to movie using any browser on your Desire and stream over WiFi
** Addition **
IIS7 (possible with Apache as well)
ICYBOX IB-NAS4220B (Any SMB/NFS/CIFS NAS Box will work)
Directory browsing enabled
Symbolic Link (Virtual Directory) to NAS box share over LAN
Browse to movie using any browser on your Desire and stream over WiFi
If you need a hand attempting this, chuck me a PM...
p.s. If you're running a windoze box, then you have IIS already.
use TVersity on your computer..and then you can just point your phone to the given IP address..save it as a bookmark in your phones browser... or shortcut
Phil750123 said:
Gmote 2.0 will do this for you
Be warned need to have the right player for the file extension.
i.e. cant play .avi files as android doesnt have a good player etc..
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Rockplayer will play AVI
use androstream or vlc stream and convert
Well the best and easiest way i figured out, was making the movie folder accessible to the Network and connect to the folder through the Cifsmanager. As player I use pLayer, which is really the best player for Android.
You could always try VLC-Shares.
It does have a fair amount of setup though.
http://code.google.com/p/vlc-shares/
This might be dead already, but try Vplayer.
As affmalg, CifsPlayer, then browse your network files as if they were on your phone = so simple
Use Opera Unite with Stream Media add-on ... works on Windows and Linux and streams everything as flash ... work really good on my HTC Desire
http://www.plexapp.com/
I liked the look of this and downloaded the PC side of it to realise that all I wanted do was access my photos in a nice graphical interface. Upon setting up this is for movies only...
Unless someone can confirm otherwise, the android app side of it costs approx £2.99
thank you very much. i know im in the wrong place (same goal, gtab 10.1) but gmote worked beautifully. even loaded up the built in subtitles when i played with moboplayer.
TheRavenGod said:
Use Opera Unite with Stream Media add-on ... works on Windows and Linux and streams everything as flash ... work really good on my HTC Desire
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That sounds interesting. I'm going to test it soon.
Thanks for the hint..
http://www.appbrain.com/app/littleplayer/fr.mydedibox.littleplayerpro
works like a charm, it's awesome and simple.
Not sure if this has been recommended. I saw a gadget called Wireless Media Stick that can help you with this.
Go here hsti.com/stick/
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Hello,
Install a samba server on your pc.
On the mobile use cifs and local player like "arcmedia" or my favorite "moboplayer"
Simple and faster. I use it often
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I'm using VLC (H.264+MP4)+port forwarding+VPlayer for streaming analoge TV channels. Works fine
Gmote 2.0 and the arcMedia player works very well for me. It's a painless install and set up procedure too.
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This might be of interest to some of you. I use DLNA to stream to my phone from my PC and NAS and also to show photos and video from my phone on my TV!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169349
I was hoping to update the guide a bit last weekend but didn't get the chance.
Just picked up my Vibrant today (Bell Canada version). So far, I am very happy.
However, one thing I thought I would be able to do with this phone (since it is DivX HD certified), would be to stream DivX over the network to it - either via Astro / SMB, or via the AllShare UPNP it comes with - without having to convert them.
Alas, neither of these seem to work. All I ever get is "video format not supported" or some-such from the built-in video player.
In anyone able to STREAM DivX avi or mkv files to this phone? I know my UPNP setup works because my BluRay player (also a Samsung, with "AllShare", BTW) can play it fine.
Based on my testing, Allshare's media playback definitely does not support all of the media formats/codecs that the primary video player supports. So while DivX and MKV videos work fine copied to your SD card, the current version of Allshare may not stream them wirelessly. I simply get an error message stating "Sorry, this video cannot be played"
This could be a matter of Allshare simply not using the same codecs, pending a possible update. ::crossing fingers:: Since both MKV and DivX are open standards, I don't imagine it would be a licensing / copyright restriction. I've personally found that while most XviD videos stream fine, a few will not. I haven't yet narrowed down the specifics.
I connected to my laptop with Windows Media Player, XBMC, and Samsung PC Share Manager thus far. Some of what I've read about various DLNA media servers suggest that real-time conversion may be an option in cases. These UPnP Media Adaptors transcode the files as it comes across. I have yet to look into that as a work-around but remain hopeful. [Update: It sounds like Nero Media Home may handle this well]
Ultimately, I foresee the Galaxy S (Transdroid) and DD-WRT (Transmission, uShare, external HDD) routers becoming the nexus of many home entertainment centers.
Yeah... the device I use for my UPNP server is a router... so real-time conversion is for sure not an option.
Given that the player can play these files, it seems silly that AllShare can't read them. AllShare *is using* the native player. So it is somehow messing with the files, or making the wrong guesses as to what it can play.
I might contact Saumsung support about this, maybe if people raise a stink about it it will be fixed in the Sept. update?
I have a Captivate, but I'm running into exactly the same problem.
I've used every "DLNA" supporting media server out there, transcoding or not, AllShare on my Galaxy S will not play it. It browses just fine, pictures work fine too, but video is a no-go.
What's really weird, is even after I get the "Sorry, this video cannot be played" error, if I go to properties->details, it shows me the correct duration, but a file size of "256.00GB". And I know the file in question plays beautifully when loaded onto my SD card, or the phone's internal memory. So what the heck is going on? Getting this to work on the Galaxy S would be an absolutely killer feature and I really hope more people get involved with this.
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I have a Captivate, but I'm running into exactly the same problem.
I've used every "DLNA" supporting media server out there, transcoding or not, AllShare on my Galaxy S will not play it. It browses just fine, pictures work fine too, but video is a no-go.
What's really weird, is even after I get the "Sorry, this video cannot be played" error, if I go to properties->details, it shows me the correct duration, but a file size of "256.00GB". And I know the file in question plays beautifully when loaded onto my SD card, or the phone's internal memory. So what the heck is going on? Getting this to work on the Galaxy S would be an absolutely killer feature and I really hope more people get involved with this.
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I already sent a question to Samsung support through their website about it... I suggest you do the same. If enough people ask about it maybe a fix will make it into the rom update... there is obviously something wrong with it.
Unfortunately most on this forum seem to be using AllShare to play media from the phone on the TV, not the other way around.
same problem but it wont play any thing, including MP3's. I have media tomb setup as a media server and I can browse it all day long but cant stream a single anything.....really annoying.
I have been able to stream mp4 videos from my NMT device (DragonTech ioBox, the A100-series of NMT hardware). That's it, though. No other formats will stream although I can browse for everything.
These are 720p mp4 files that I grabbed from YouTube.
i have the same problem too:/ dno wut to do!!!
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I have been able to stream mp4 videos from my NMT device (DragonTech ioBox, the A100-series of NMT hardware). That's it, though. No other formats will stream although I can browse for everything.
These are 720p mp4 files that I grabbed from YouTube.
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So.... UPNP problems are usually due to the headers sent to the player. If we knew what headers were being sent to the phone that *worked*, we might be able to know how to fix it.
I don't suppose you know how to use Wireshark? You can use it to sniff your network and see the HTTP headers being sent from your DLNA server to the phone.
Not familiar with it, but I'm a developer In Real Life, I can figure it out. I'll have a look.
Samsung support == horrible
So this is the email i sent
AllShare Player, Supported Formats
I am wondering what media formats the AllShare DLNA client on the Galaxy S can play?
I have several Divx HD media files that play fine when copied directly to the phone, but when I try to play them using the AllShare DLNA client (streamed from a non-transcoding DLNA server), they do not play.
What are the formats supported by the AllShare client, and what mime types is it expecting for those formats?
Is there any planned update to allow the AllShare client to support the same formats the phone does from the filesystem?
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This is how they respond.
Thank you for submitting your inquiry to Samsung.
Please try MP4 format.
Thanks
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Basically, they totally ignored the question.
What's more, if i try to reply, the form is busted.
*Frustration*
the thing with allshare i think is that whatever youre playing it on, has to be compatible with the file type.
i have a samsung c6500 bluray player that i use for allshare through vibrant which plays basically all formats, and i have no issue streaming anything to it through the phone.
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the thing with allshare i think is that whatever youre playing it on, has to be compatible with the file type.
i have a samsung c6500 bluray player that i use for allshare through vibrant which plays basically all formats, and i have no issue streaming anything to it through the phone.
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This thread is about doing the exact opposite.
The SGS/Vibrant can play Divx HD, heck it even has the Divx HD certified logo on the box. But if you try to stream it to the phone with AllShare, it does not work. If you copy it to the phone with USB, it works fine. So, AllShare is busted.
I don't want to play movies from my phone to my TV, I can't even think when I would ever want to do that. But playing movies or TV from my media server on my phone while lying in bed, that is something I may want to do occasionally.
This is strange as I am not having ANY problems with streaming divx Avi files and even 720p M4V files through AllShare to my phone. I am however not able to stream my MKV files.
The only thing I see different is that I use Twonky for my UPNP server running from a Nettop PC I have setup as a server. They do have a trial for Twonky for those that want to see if it works for them. http://www.twonky.com/
The biggest disappointment for me is that AllShare FORCES wifi. I was hoping I could hack that feature out of AllShare through the Vibrant dumps available here, but I cant seem to find what Im looking for. In truth Im kind of new to editing code, so Im really just taking guess most of the time.
The reason I want this to work over 3g is that a simple VPN should allow me access to my UPNP server from where ever I am. At present I have this setup using Hamachi VPN on several PCs that belong to friends and family. This allows them access to my Twonky UPNP server that they can browse with XBMC. My Fios 30Mb up/ 30Mb down connection will even allow them to stream 720p video from me. I dont even notice the hit to my bandwidth sense UPNP is pretty light in terms of bandwidth.
Anybody want to take a stab at getting the wifi only portion of AllShare removed?
Same here. I have Twonky running on my unRAID server and I'm able to stream MP3s, JPGs, and DivX AVI files without a problem. However, as soon as I touch an MKV file I get an error. I really don't see why as I can play them back locally on my phone. Has anyone gotten anywhere with this?
mac1978 over on Android Forums has tried renaming MKV files with AVI extensions and he says that works. Absolutely ridiculous. Does this mean that AllShare has blacklisted MKVs, or is there some sore of glitch in the supported file format list? Either way, it's clear this is a software issue on Samsung's part. Any idea how we can get it fixed?
http://androidforums.com/samsung-ca...re-streaming-samsung-bs-my-final-impasse.html
The AllShare player itself isn't that intuitive. Considering Samsung is launching a PMP based on our phones seems ridiculous considering it's shortcomings. Maybe it will spark more development in this area.
EDIT: This post suggests the feature was working post 2.2. Does anyone have a Galaxy S still on 2.1 that can test this out for us?
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/sho...es-via-ALLSHARE-since-upgrading-to-Froyou-2.2
EDIT 2: There seems to be another thread on this in the i9000 forum. No one has anything really there either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801423&page=2
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Basically, they totally ignored the question.
*Frustration*
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Yes, well, at least you could get an email address. It appears the Canadian website doesn't even HAVE email support. All they give you is a phone number (1-800-726-7864) which as of right now, redirects you to the American support line who are unable to even talk to you. I was able to get the correct number from them (1-905-542-3837) and told them about the redirection issue. Hopefully they will resolve that.
Anyway, the girl I spoke to was just as unhelpful. She was friendly about it, but after looking it up she said the reason was because of "codecs?" and that AllShare can't do MKV. It can only stream MP3s and AVIs, or some other nonsense. Clearly the case is not codecs because as some have observed if you change an MKV extension to AVI it plays. It is using the correct codecs on the phone just fine. AllShare is just rejecting the MKV container for some reason.
Because this is phone support there's no way to really escalate things, so I was hoping someone could get a hold of a Canadian Samsung Mobile Support email address? If not maybe a helpful American can contact the US support team and find out what is going on.
Currently 2.1 "All Share" will not play mkv's via lan.
Can a froyo user test the following methods.
Using a network file manager app like Astro, are you able to play a MKV from lan?
Via Allshare can you play a MKV from lan?
My Synology 107+ contains 3 small test files : one avi(Xvid), one mpg(MPEG2) and og one mkv(x264)
My I9000 JPK with OCLF could not play any of them!!!
I think they all worked on JM8!!!
Regards,
JKay
I tried avi format with my Philipf 46PFL9704, and it works fine!
But Mkv and default video it doesen't open 'cos it hasn't good codecs..
No luck with mkv or xvid (avi) through allshare on jpk.
Also its worth mentioning that the same files I tested play perfectly directly on the phone..
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I tried avi format with my Philipf 46PFL9704, and it works fine!
But Mkv and default video it doesen't open 'cos it hasn't good codecs..
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It has nothing to do with codecs. Copy the same file to your device and it will play fine. It is a problem with AllShare, and it seems like it is still broken in the Froyo update. Which doesn't surprise me since AllShare is not part of Android.
Guys, as I understand, Allshare is only used to transfer files to a player. Playing mkv or anything has to do with the player's capability. Firmware won't change the experience!
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I rename my .mkv files to .avi.
Media Player 11 then picks them up as shareable, and I can stream them without problems via AllShare to my i9000.
Only problem is, you cannot seek, so you have to watch from the beginning.
I've streamed MKVs from my phone to my Western Digital TV box, with JF3 and JM2...
my allshare cannot find my laptop after I upgraded to 2.2 JPM.. anyone else have this issue?
I have reflashed and it still has this problem..
I also have a problem where the phone will connect to one of my routers at home, but will not connect to the repeater bridge router in my room which has identical settings as my main router..
Along with Allshare not working, these two features were working fine before, and now after I flashed froyo JPM, it stopped working..
When I tried going back to stock firmware, it still didnt work..
Any ideas guys? Thanks!
I'm having same problems.
Upgraded my Samsung Galaxy to Froyo and now can't play .mkv files via allshare anymore. This is so frustrating, I thought Froyo was all singing and going to make the Android device the ultimate weapon. I have tried other andriod .mkv players and all have the same problem <media not recognised>
Hi,
actually, after the update, AllShare is more or less completely broken. First of all, a firmware upgrade will most likely not help, because AllShare is not part of android at all.
Regarding another post: A media server does not only offer the video to a network source, it obeys to a certain standard (DLNA), which is why you will always find your MKVs being transcoded to some sort of MPEG stream before playing. The Media SERVER has all the work providing ready-to-go video, most likely with as little compression as possible. DLNA ist not just a samba share. It is way more than that.
Can anyone confirm the MP3 behavior I am experiencing? MP3s play fine for the first 30 seconds, somewhere around that they start skipping around and finally stop when played through my PS3 media client.
Samsung Galaxy S i9000, lagfixed, JPO.
Cheers.
Andreas
This is a real pain in the bum.. there must be a way to get the mkv files to stream from my server to my phone. It worked perfectly on the Android 2.1 version : (
I wonder who makes Allshare and if they are aware of the problem? Alternatively does anyone know any other program that can stream .mkv files to the Galaxy? I really don't want to start having to load an 8gb file on to the card to play it : /
There's another thread on this in the Vibrant forum. No news there either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10387971#post10387971
Hmm never tried Allshare but regarding Astro I've never gotten it to play anything from a network share, always had to copy to the SD card first. That does take an annoyingly long time so I'll watch for progress on this as well (for whenever I actually get a working SGS back in my hands ).
Try using ES File Explorer as it seems better than Astro and has its own video player which streams from FTP and file shares OK for me.
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Try using ES File Explorer as it seems better than Astro and has its own video player which streams from FTP and file shares OK for me.
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Yes, but it lacks tracking (skipping in a file) and also doesn't support MKV.
Is there a way stream my Nas media in allshare, I can only play pc files?
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sonci said:
Is there a way stream my Nas media in allshare, I can only play pc files?
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AllShare is a DLNA program. It is capable of functioning both as a client and as a server. It sounds like you want to play back PC files on your phone. For this you would need something acting as a DLNA server. If your NAS doesn't support this then you could install a server program on something else and point it to your NAS for content. This could be a spare computer, a device specifically made for this, or even some routers.
Try to use another media server like PS3 Media server or tvirsity. DNLA will not support MKV files.
Using PS3 Media server I can stream mkv to my ps3 and my Samsung LCD tv that supports DNLA.
I've got an annoying problem that I don't know how to fix.
I have a script that uses handbrake to encode videos for me and spits them out as a .mp4 file. I used to view these from a local open web directory so I could stream them while I was in the bath or in the kitchen or having a dump or whenever I wasn't in front of my TV.
They work on my iPhone, iPod touch and on the various Android things I put on my HD2. How can it work on a flashed WinMo phone and not on a proper Android device?
What's frustrating is that they work when I transfer them over using Astro or downloading them in the browser. I assume it would work if I put them on a memory stick but all of these solutions take more time.
I was thinking I should root the Tab and put a custom Android on it, but is there anything else I can do without re-encoding a bunch of files?
What exactly is the problem? How are you trying to stream them?
I have an open web directory which is basically just a list of .mp4 files. I open the browser and point it to my site, 192.168.1.3/movies, and then click on whatever I want to watch.
Then usually it gives me an option of what app I want to play it in and I usually just pick the default video player.
This doesn't work on the Tab where it does on my other devices (Android and iOS).
So the problem is that its not giving you an option to pick which app to open the .mp4 with?
Maybe you dont have any other apps that can play the file?-
It does give me an option, it just refuses to play saying that the type is not supported. I've tried the built in video player, rockplayer, meridian. I've also tried it on a file manager like Astro.
The files just refuses to play like they do on my hacked HD2 and iPhone.
Are you trying to emulate this like the AllShare program? Cant seem to get this to work too on the network media
I don't know what AllShare is unfortunately. Did it work on a previous device?
Allshare is sammys DLNA client. Its pretty good for small folders on a LAN server. But it doesn't understand headers very well. Search is your friend.
Someone pointed me in the right direction on another board.
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OK, figured it out. The problem is that most MPEG4/QuickTime muxers append a critical piece of metadata to the end of the file and it needs to be moved to the beginning to allow streaming/progressive downloading in the Android media player (it's not a Samsung-specific problem).
If you already have a bunch of non-streaming-compatible MP4 files, there's a tool that comes with ffmpeg called qt-faststart that rewrites them (without reencoding) in a compatible fashion.
Also, it looks like Handbrake 0.9.2 and up have an option for producing "Web optimized" MPEG-4 files, which if you enable should fix future videos.
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Objective:A consolidated post listing multiple ways to stream videos from desktop to SGT 10.1. Contains answers to 4 questions
1) Best DLNA App?
2) Best Video Player that can play files over the network or one AllShare or DLNA app can use?
3) How to encode files to view them over SGT?
4) DLNA Server serving video files from desktop
Solution1 (cnewsgrp)
3) This thread says that SGT with 3.1 can play high profile natively. The encoding instructions are great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
4) I use Tversity and it works well. Any other suggestions are welcome.
Solution2: paua__
1) :get UPnPlay, which you use to browse the videos you want to stream
2) paua__ : DICE Player is (AFAIK) the only mediaplayer which utilizes Hardware Acceleration to process those heavy HD files. It eats .mkv for breakfast.
Solution3: oreo
1) 2) 4) VLC Direct.
it streams everything from your PC via VLC's built in web interface, and you can browse through all your files in your computer all with just 1 app. As an added bonus, it can REVERSE stream FROM my TAB to the PC (which is hooked up to my HDTV), I find this very useful when I want to show something quick on my big screen to my guests (like photos and vidoes that i JUST took). and you can fine tune the stream quality with settings in the app. oh and there's also virtually no limit on the number of formats/codecs it can handle, if your VLC player on the PC can play it, everything can be streamed to the Tab.
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Solution4: jastop
Still tweaking this setup, but it works well for the SGT, Xoom, HTC phones (and the i*'s also)
* Windows Media Center 7 Host
* 2 WD TB hard drives
* Ceton InfiniTv 4 channel digital cable card tuner
* Verizon FIOS (all shows set to copy freely!)
* Remote Potato (Provides Windows Media Center Interface on Mobile and Desktops)
* MCBUDDY (Beta 18) - Transcodes recorded shows to smaller file, more mobile friendly format
* ES File Explorer - Can browse the Media Center hard disk wireless, and launch recorded TV, Movies and home videos in the player of choice. Also can use to copy a video to the device for offline watching
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My goal is the opposite of cluttering XDA with another video thread. I will take time to compose good information in my first post. for that to succeed you experts must provide me good usable information in replies .
Solution4: BarryH_GEG: Plex
1) DLNA App: Plex for Android, AllShare
3) How to encode files to view them over SGT?DVDFab, CoreAVC
4) DLNA Server: Plex Media Server
First off, get UPnPlay, which you use to browse the videos you want to stream.
Then BUY the DICE Player, which then will play the file tou select with UPnPlay.
DICE Player is (AFAIK) the only mediaplayer which utilizes Hardware Acceleration to process those heavy HD files. It eats .mkv for breakfast.
I assume you have already activated file sharing on your computer for your media files?
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First off, get UPnPlay, which you use to browse the videos you want to stream.
Then BUY the DICE Player, which then will play the file tou select with UPnPlay.
DICE Player is (AFAIK) the only mediaplayer which utilizes Hardware Acceleration to process those heavy HD files. It eats .mkv for breakfast.
I assume you have already activated file sharing on your computer for your media files?
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Thanks. Comments added to first post. I will test this in about a week after I get my SGT.
After using tversity, now I use ps3 media server to share everything on my xbox360 ( for watching movies on the TV ) and on my GT10.1. You don't need to build a library and it can handle mkv ( It was not possible with Tversity in the past, I don't know now. ?)
I use an alternate method, VLC Direct. it streams everything from your PC via VLC's built in web interface, and you can browse through all your files in your computer all with just 1 app. As an added bonus, it can REVERSE stream FROM my TAB to the PC (which is hooked up to my HDTV), I find this very useful when I want to show something quick on my big screen to my guests (like photos and vidoes that i JUST took). and you can fine tune the stream quality with settings in the app. oh and there's also virtually no limit on the number of formats/codecs it can handle, if your VLC player on the PC can play it, everything can be streamed to the Tab.
Works in the house and on the road
Still tweaking this setup, but it works well for the SGT, Xoom, HTC phones (and the i*'s also)
Windows Media Center 7 Host
2 WD TB hard drives
Ceton InfiniTv 4 channel digital cable card tuner
Verizon FIOS (all shows set to copy freely!)
Remote Potato (Provides Windows Media Center Interface on Mobile and Desktops)
MCBUDDY (Beta 18) - Transcodes recorded shows to smaller file, more mobile friendly format
ES File Explorer - Can browse the Media Center hard disk wireless, and launch recorded TV, Movies and home videos in the player of choice. Also can use to copy a video to the device for offline watching
Before Google acquired SageTV I was looking at using it as the media center component, but for now it seems to be lost in acquisition limbo. The advantage it had was it didn't record in Microsoft's WMV format, it maintained the native MPEG2 encoding used by FIOS. Transcoding was much easier, and mostly unnecessary.
I use qloud media. If you beef up the bandwidth settings, it gives you good viewing experience. You have to run a separate server app on your desktop. Also both the client and the srvr versions are under constant development. I used to use air video on my ipod touch, and always felt tailored app just for the device always gives the perfect experience.