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So I am one of the people that envies those of you that claim 20+ hours of battery life on your phone. It doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel I use and if I have SetCPU at max 3xxMhz, my battery lasts until 6pm ish (off the charger around 8am) and I have moderate usage. I can use Juice Defender and any other power saving product with no result. My product number ends in F. I have a replacement from HTC on the way and I will report back with the battery life and product number when I get it but it seems as most people with failing battery life have the F at the end. I posted a poll and I'm hoping to get some good turnaround. I'm not too concerned with what ROM/Kernel everyone is using, just more on the product number unless you have seen drastic differences moving ROMs/Kernels.
EDIT: A few points of clarity:
* Sorry for the confusion... I was not referring to the physical battery. I am looking to see people's battery life in relation to their phone's P/N
* Lets set some parameters here:
Bad ~<13 hours and your phone is pretty low
Mediocre Between ~13 and 20 hours
Great ~>20 hours
Just reading the threads, this seems to be the ranges we are going through together. If any of your votes don't meet this, maybe you can change it. I have my new phone on the way and will not root it or change anything... I'll test the battery life.
where's the B option?
and by the way, how many different ending letters are there? do you know?
zachthemaster said:
where's the B option?
and by the way, how many different ending letters are there? do you know?
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I didn't throw the B option in there specifically because I didn't know how many ending letters there were. You would chose the option "product number does *not* end in F..."
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I didn't throw the B option in there specifically because I didn't know how many ending letters there were. You would chose the option "product number does *not* end in F..."
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amazingly i didnt read that correctly.. maybe people here should post what their letter is.
mine is so obviously B
Interesting thread, especially for those of us with poor battery life. On my battery there is a "part number" and on the phone there is a "p/n" number, my p/n number ends with F and I'm guessing that's the number we are talking about?
Also, my vote indicated that I have bad battery life but I don't really know what constitutes "moderate" usage and also, "bad" battery life to me may actually be precisely the type of performance I should expect.... for example, with moderate use my battery is at about 40% - 50% when I get home from school, so that's moderate usage between 9am to 3am and 3 of those ours I'm in class, and I only use it for a few minutes before each of my 2 or 3 classes so I'm really looking at about 20-25 solid minutes of usage, is that considered "moderate"? And if so is 40-50% remaining battery considered "bad"? Thanks
DMaverick50 said:
Interesting thread, especially for those of us with poor battery life. On my battery there is a "part number" and on the phone there is a "p/n" number, my p/n number ends with F and I'm guessing that's the number we are talking about?
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actually, letter
Also can the ones who have good battery life with over a day or more please post your ending numbers.
I actually have two batteries that end in M and I get great battery life. I rarely have to swap batteries, and when I do it is because I took my phone off the charger at 8AM and streamed 5+ hours worth of music via Subsonic, while using my phone for at least four hours of browsing, etc. Even then, I usually swap before the one dies completely. Generally on my way home from work, so when I get home I can play some games without worrying about my battery dying on me.
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I actually have two batteries that end in M and I get great battery life. I rarely have to swap batteries, and when I do it is because I took my phone off the charger at 8AM and streamed 5+ hours worth of music via Subsonic, while using my phone for at least four hours of browsing, etc. Even then, I usually swap before the one dies completely. Generally on my way home from work, so when I get home I can play some games without worrying about my battery dying on me.
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Hmm is that the phone or the battery that ends in M? Because the P/N we are talking about is the one on the phone.
I have an F and have regularly gone 36 hours before charging.
I think its an interesting poll and although contains subjective opinions may well show a valid finding. However the number of people responding needs to get up to >60 or so to draw any conclusion.
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Hmm is that the phone or the battery that ends in M? Because the P/N we are talking about is the one on the phone.
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My bad... I assumed that since you were discussing battery life, that the battery was the object you were comparing. So, my batteries have a part number ending in M. Phone ends in F, aren't all Nexus Ones going to have the same part number? I didn't think there were different hardware revisions.
You may want to restate your question as "What is your battery life/product #?" clearly reads exactly that.
Dont think the battery ending in F argument holds any water.
My battery P/N ends in M and I get about 5 hours of life before needing a recharge (normal use). This is not necessarily bad as its a super-phone.
With less use and a few calls the battery will last about 12 hours.
The solution is to be able to charge everywhere Cable in your laptop bag, cable on both home and work desks, charger in your car....
Get the Sedio 3200 if you want close to 2x the battery life and have the cash for it.
My phone's P/N doesn't end in a letter. And I have bad battery life. Around 10 hours of medium usage.
I leve Wifi, GPS, Sync turned ON and display brightness at 50%.
peliROJO said:
My phone's P/N doesn't end in a letter. And I have bad battery life. Around 10 hours of medium usage.
I leve Wifi, GPS, Sync turned ON and display brightness at 50%.
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Can you upload a picture of that?
Rusty! said:
I have an F and have regularly gone 36 hours before charging.
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What is your P/N on your phone? does it end with F?
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My bad... I assumed that since you were discussing battery life, that the battery was the object you were comparing. So, my batteries have a part number ending in M. Phone ends in F, aren't all Nexus Ones going to have the same part number? I didn't think there were different hardware revisions.
You may want to restate your question as "What is your battery life/product #?" clearly reads exactly that.
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britoso said:
Dont think the battery ending in F argument holds any water.
My battery P/N ends in M and I get about 5 hours of life before needing a recharge (normal use). This is not necessarily bad as its a super-phone.
With less use and a few calls the battery will last about 12 hours.
The solution is to be able to charge everywhere Cable in your laptop bag, cable on both home and work desks, charger in your car....
Get the Sedio 3200 if you want close to 2x the battery life and have the cash for it.
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Thats just it. ALL our batteries ends in M. Its the P/N on the phone we are comparing. A good amount of persons are reporting over 20hours or 1.5days of battery life with 3G, gps, gaming and such. Which seems to come within the realm of what Google advertise the battery should be. But some of us can barely make to 12hours with that usage. I recently discovered the phones ending with F seems to be related to bad battery life. Strange I know, hence the purpose of this thread. To test that theory.
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What is your P/N on your phone? does it end with F?
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How did you miss the big bold F in the statement "I have an F"?
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How did you miss the big bold F in the statement "I have an F"?
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Oh... I just wake, my eyes still drifting..
I meant to say.." With what kind of usage?"
My P/N ends in F and i can go a full day with no battery problems at all. Most of the time i am around 40% or so after about 16 hours. Also i do watch videos on my phone since i am in the Army and do some traveling. I can get by with about 4 2 hour videos before the phone has to be charged. I voted great with F.
I'm not certain there is a "bad battery life" so to speak, rather than the part number i'd be more curious as to what is eating up your battery life. check under settings>applications>running services and see whats going on under the hood
with a full charge i have 4187mV charge, when it wants to shut off its around 3000mV or so. this mV reading is from the "battery left" widget. I highly recommend this widget as it gives you a pretty good idea as to what is using the battery up.
i usually unplug it at around 730am and lasts until about 10 or 11 pm, depending on what im doing that day. to give you an idea of my usage, i check a few rss feeds and check email and play some mp3s from the sdcard on the way to work, then sometimes play in the market a few minutes and do some casual web browsing while at work to break the monotony, check personal email some times , listen to some sd card mp3s and check some tasks in astrid. I have the email sync about 15min, background data and contacts sync on auto, work email on sync about 15 minutes, twitter sync every 4 hours, newsrob sync every two hours, gps on wireless on, brightness auto adjust or 75-100%.
Here are some things I notice that obliterate my battery
streaming music with last.fm - this chews through the battery a bit, I would say it will last about 6 or 7 hours constant streaming over 3g/wireless.
navigation app - using the gps with maps eats the battery up, its about dead after a 1 1/2 to 2 hour trip with no charge, couple that with streaming music and you basically have to have it plugged in if you plan on using it at your destination
no signal - while im at work ive got some pretty poor reception, I've started putting the thing into airplane mode then manually turning the wireless back on, this gives you some connectivity with google voice voicemail and google voice sms while not actually having the 3g radio constantly working to find a signal, the 3g radio really takes a lot of the battery imo. I used the tmo band N1 and put a check in the force 2g connection checkbox(since i was on att) and the thing would last all day plus most of the night, when i got the att band N1 i did notice quite a bit of difference in the battery life, the 3g used up a noticeable amount more battery.
screen brightness - this one i dont have too tough of an issue with, ive used the 100% brightness for a bit and didnt notice too much of a difference compared to the auto adjust.
IM applications - i used to have meebo constantly running until i noticed it wouldnt stay connected very well, then i found that if you lost connection it would try to reconnect for 2 minutes, if not connection after that it would just sit there saying no connecction and still eat the battery, since not starting it up i do notice better battery life, i keep it on the phone for when i do need it but dont have it constantly running any more.
web browser - Ive noticed a couple times where I had been using buzz or some other website and found my battery die fairly quickly, it ended up that i had a couple different tabs open in the browser, namely buzz and some other forum page i frequent. it seems these tabs were continually trying to refresh or something and just sipping off of the battery. what i do now when closing the browser is go into the windows menu and close each tab before exiting out of the browser by tapping the back button at the bottom
rogue applications - those crazy things....wanting to force close and crash and take your battery with it trying to process whatever endless loop they are stuck in. not to single out any specific app, things happen, but Ive had the last.fm app sort of crash while switching from wireless to 3g when leaving the house one time and it just wouldnt die, i had to actually reboot the phone, I could tell it was just draining on the battery since the phone was actually getting warm, as it does when its working hard or streaming audio.
tl;dr: I dont mind paying attention to what is actually running on my phone and charging it while im sitting at the office listening to music or always having it plugged in while using the navigation app....it is primarily a phone after all.
to answer your question, the att band N1 i have currently is a B and the tmo banding N1 i was using on att was an F, and in my opinion, they both have fine battery life depending on what I was doing with it along the course of the day.
sorry if this is somewhere else, can't search with app.
my phone has been unplugged and used off and on for an hour now and I am at 84%. I've read people say they use their phones for 12 hours without a problem. I have tried 2 different batteries and its the same. by 5pm if I haven't plugged it in, it's dead.
oh good lord. it all depends on your usage pattern.
if you fill your car with gas - how long time car you drive it?
no-one can answer that question.
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oh good lord. it all depends on your usage pattern.
if you fill your car with gas - how long time car you drive it?
no-one can answer that question.
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ROFL that is an awesome analogy
tonnic said:
sorry if this is somewhere else, can't search with app.
my phone has been unplugged and used off and on for an hour now and I am at 84%. I've read people say they use their phones for 12 hours without a problem. I have tried 2 different batteries and its the same. by 5pm if I haven't plugged it in, it's dead.
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i used to only make it 6 hours on one battery. but then yesterday we found a new setting which i can now go 12.5 hours yesterday without even trying hard. go to *#*#4636#*#* and change to GSM Auto (PRL), this more than doubled my battery life. and you do not lose 3G, the phone will still use 3G just like normal. try it out.
RogerPodacter said:
i used to only make it 6 hours on one battery. but then yesterday we found a new setting which i can now go 12.5 hours yesterday without even trying hard. go to *#*#4636#*#* and change to GSM Auto (PRL), this more than doubled my battery life. and you do not lose 3G, the phone will still use 3G just like normal. try it out.
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Thanks for the info Roger. Why does it more than double the battery life in your opinion?
oh good lord. it all depends on your usage pattern.
if you fill your car with gas - how long time car you drive it?
no-one can answer that question.
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I don't think I use it out of the norm. I check my phone when it notifies me of messages, come on this xda app and sometimes browse the web.... it's not like I'm streaming music, playing games or anything else a lot.
i too have found my phone dead in the morning when before going to bed was at 65% full. im still wondering the best settings for home and travel before switching to gsm auto prl because i dont want to drop totally dead when going outside 3g tmobile.
i also found my wifi is always on even if sleep. after i figure out this network deal ill do something with the wifi only being on when the phone is screen on and in my home. that will prob save me tons of battery.
I run wifi constantly on, the overnight drop is around 10-15%.
It should last 14 hours if you use 100 Ma of power per hour from a 100 percent charge to 0 percent charge.
I didn't know it was possible, but with IntersectRavens kernel (or whatever his name is lol) I can actually lose 1 percent of battery life in one hour (or close to an hour).
Though without turning my mobile internet off with Juice Defender's APN widget, this wouldn't be much possible. I found this very surprising, I thought people were making false claims about this.
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1% in 1 hour..so your battery life "could" be 4 days
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Lol I must have exaggerated quite a bit. I was just astonished.. I don't really know how to explain my battery life I guess.. Its a day, and most of the night. Half of the next day might work as well if I didn't charge it through the night.
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Eclair~ said:
I didn't know it was possible, but with IntersectRavens (or whatever his name is lol) I can actually lose 1 percent of battery life in one hour (or close to an hour).
Though without turning my mobile internet off with Juice Defender's APN widget, this wouldn't be much possible. I found this very surprising, I thought people were making false claims about this.
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1% in 1 hour..so your battery life "could" be 4 days
muncheese said:
It should last 14 hours if you use 100 Ma of power per hour from a 100 percent charge to 0 percent charge.
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Perfect answer
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1% in 1 hour..so your battery life "could" be 4 days
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Lol I must have exaggerated quite a bit. I was just astonished.. I don't really know how to explain my battery life I guess.. Its a day, and most of the night. Half of the next day might work as well if I didn't charge it through the night.
I should edit that post, shouldn't I.. four days would be impressive.
I'm gonna plug an app for this. It's not exactly the best thing out there in terms of an app killer (which from what I understand is a no-no anyway) but there are some nice little features that will really help narrow down some power use issues.
Do a search for SystemPanel and turn on Monitoring. It'll track when you have the phone on a charger, relative battery drain as well as device usage and cpu utilization all in separate histograms over time. History is saved (most likely in a log file) and can display from the last 2 hours to the last week. Without having to dive too deep into system settings you can track this info with just a few button presses.
I found out that using GSM Auto (PRL) and dropping the auto brightness and live wallpaper really did save a bunch as well and I was able to track the difference with the app. I also found out that playing too much Jewels will eat my battery like it was a cake at a weight watchers center.
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Thanks for the info Roger. Why does it more than double the battery life in your opinion?
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i dont think anybody knows why or how that works. i'm still confused as to why it would even make a difference, but it DOES seem to help from my testing so far. today i am at 8 hours since unplugged, and still have 57% battery left, which is much better than i used to get. that's on pace for at least a 16-20 hour day which i would be happy if i could make it thru a day like that without having to charge.
Aren't there any explanations from Google about those settings ??
there are alot of mixed opinions on how to properly train a brand new battery, I'm talking right out the box 5 mins ago. Some are saying let the new battery drain and then start the charging/discharging and some are saying charge it right out of the box.
Anybody have a definite answer that has worked for them? Battery life has been an issue for me in the past and i wanna get this one right. thanks guys!
I charge it right out the box then do a full discharge and charge it back up again.
I think I'm a moderate / heavy user and I still get quite good battery life. Averaging around 20 hours before I need to charge.
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I charge it right out the box then do a full discharge and charge it back up again.
I think I'm a moderate / heavy user and I still get quite good battery life. Averaging around 20 hours before I need to charge.
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20 hours? twitter? facebook? instant messaging? texting? lol i can get almost 10hr per charge.
cdw9800 said:
20 hours? twitter? facebook? instant messaging? texting? lol i can get almost 10hr per charge.
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Backround Data > Off
GPS > Off
All I really do is
Facebook
Text
Phone calls
This was actually last night before I charged it:
55% Left
12h 34m 37s unplugged
Cellphone Standby 31%
Android System 29%
Phone idle 25%
Display 8%
Voice calls 5%
Wi-fi 2%
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It's Lithium Ion. You don't need to train it.
Android however needs to figure out how long it can run before the battery is dead. Charge it til it's full and run it down. Do that a few times and the OS should get a pretty good idea on where the battery is sitting.
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It's Lithium Ion. You don't need to train it.
Android however needs to figure out how long it can run before the battery is dead. Charge it til it's full and run it down. Do that a few times and the OS should get a pretty good idea on where the battery is sitting.
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yeah sorry for not being more clear, this is what I meant. not training the battery itself but the system so the battery stats are more precise
Wasn't there a special HTC-approved charging strategy that supposedly improves battery life dramatically? Was that ever debunked as BS?
Orite said:
Backround Data > Off
GPS > Off
All I really do is
Facebook
Text
Phone calls
This was actually last night before I charged it:
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you are not a heavy user then. I got about 12 hours with 2G only selected for most of the day. switched to HSPA. hspa+ 8megs killlllz my battery. I went from 70% to about 30 within a few hours just sitting in HSPA+ area and browsing and checking emails and facebooking. at about 12:30 that night i was at about 15%
greensnow said:
yeah sorry for not being more clear, this is what I meant. not training the battery itself but the system so the battery stats are more precise
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You need to delete batterystats.bin from system if you get inaccurate readings. And yes, lithium ion batteries need no training. That was the older type nickel-whatever...
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It's Lithium Ion. You don't need to train it.
Android however needs to figure out how long it can run before the battery is dead. Charge it til it's full and run it down. Do that a few times and the OS should get a pretty good idea on where the battery is sitting.
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So, you're basically saying we need to train the OS, not the battery, am I right?
I always gave the battery a full charge and then let it go down to 0 and finally power down before re-charging. After doing that a few times I just did whatever as far as charging goes.
I also used to charge a lot here and there through out the day. I know only charge when it's low and I know I am doing a full charge. Not sure if it makes a difference with battery health, but I feel like I notice a difference.
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I always gave the battery a full charge and then let it go down to 0 and finally power down before re-charging. After doing that a few times I just did whatever as far as charging goes.
I also used to charge a lot here and there through out the day. I know only charge when it's low and I know I am doing a full charge. Not sure if it makes a difference with battery health, but I feel like I notice a difference.
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Lithium Ion batteries should not have complete discharge cycles. Keep it above 40% when you can. Charge it regularly.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
well I did the Evo trick and... i'm at 12 hours off the charge and 34%... that's with web browsing, texting, gtalk, phone calls, etc.
I think the GSM Auto (PRL) has helped a bit as my "time without a signal" went from 44% to 0%.
There are too many different answers from discharge at half, charge to full then discharge, and not let it discharge below 40%.
I think we should all test and log the different techniques.
So far
44 hours with light use
21 hours with normal use
15 hours with heavy use
and what I did was discharge at half and fully charge, also I dont let it shut down by itself and turn it off at 1 %.
ThaGeNeCySt said:
well I did the Evo trick and... i'm at 12 hours off the charge and 34%... that's with web browsing, texting, gtalk, phone calls, etc.
I think the GSM Auto (PRL) has helped a bit as my "time without a signal" went from 44% to 0%.
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This has helped improve my battery life significantly.
I have also noticed my signal is more stable.
I was on WCDMA Preferred before.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
Whats the Evo trick?
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Whats the Evo trick?
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You can read all about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670999
Okay, I read the post and did the evo trick, from my understand it stops your phone from constantly looking for a network.
while I made the changes, am I suppose to have "use only 2G network" check or unchecked? Also my connection changes from E to H all the time with this trick, is that suppose to happen because from my understanding it should stop it from switching networks?
I just tried the GSM Auto (PRL) evo trick.. now to wait and see if this helps at all..
Whoops, I didn't mean to imply that the evo trick was the GSM Auto (PRL) setting... I was talking about this:
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
Hi Every One I dont know from were i will start Ok
I have a Problem of battery its drain soo much even i dont use the mobile Much and its drain so much.
BaseBand is XXJPY
Rom is Unlimited Rom
Please help me what should i do
1. you should use the search function, there are quite good threads concerning battery life
2. you could post in the general or, even better, the Q&A section.
3. you should post your stats, just saying the battery does not last long enough is a bit vague, if you're used to a old nokia anything under 10 days will seem short
4. when did you flash the last time? the battery meter needs some time to be accurate again. to speed up the process let the battery drain under 10% and then charge fully. after 2-3 days you should get accurate results.
5. you can check the battery statistics in the settings an see what drains much energy (besides the display^^), if it's any single app you might wanna look for an alternative. You can also think about apps you have installed that need the internet for updates/communication. such as skype and facebook. Especially skype has not the best reputation.
6. what kernel are you on and has it tweaks (speedmod f.e. access able in recovery) you could enable?
7. Check what modem version you have ("baseband" in the settings -> about phone) and whether it's compatible with your region. a thread with information on that is linked in my signature.
8. To tweak even more you can try apps such as Tasker or juicedefender
Hmmm OK^^
First of all i used Darky rom wth frimware XWJS5 and Kernel (stock+Voodoo-Froyo-GT-I9000-XWJS5)
And now i install Same Firmware its (FROYO.XWJS5 Build Number) And i install Unlimited Rom 8.0
I see in Battery use the (Display take 60%)-(Cell standby take 18% Wifi take 15%)
Baseband version is I9000XXJPY
I install that Rom yesterday and i put in Charge When the battery in 4%
And Still i didnt install any Software like facebook or skype
If we say that we want like nokia Then its just sound like Nice joke But dosent work at all.
Here is only problem that i wont take much longer even i dont use jst power Off
well and how much time has passed since you charged and on what % are you now?
I guess the battery life will get better in a few days by it self as mentioned above
I Charge the mobile in evening at 3 when the mobile clos it self
So now the battery life is 85%
osasih said:
I Charge the mobile in evening at 3 when the mobile clos it self
So now the battery life is 85%
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Wow. Unbelievably short battery life!!! Just like every other user here and all smartphones around....
what should do now any idea?
dupel said:
Wow. Unbelievably short battery life!!! Just like every other user here and all smartphones around....
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No offense but that was not very helpful...
osasih said:
I Charge the mobile in evening at 3 when the mobile clos it self
So now the battery life is 85%
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So you charge every day at 3PM at which point you have 85% left? Or you lose 85% over 20h? The later would be a bit much
Unless you watch lots of videos/play a lot on your phone. to make it easier:
a consumption of under 2% per hour on standby (screen off, just laying around) is normal. For reference values look here
now its 82% wthout doing anything
osasih said:
now its 82% wthout doing anything
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As I said, that's normal
I hope So.. but this ROM is awesome and features also cool
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No offense but that was not very helpful...
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No offense taken.
Its just for a quite a long time now it was known to just about everyone that smartphones are very battery hungry and it is good to get a full day from one charge.
And yet we see still such post about battery. Kind of pisses me off.
Well in the case of osasih we have 85% at 05:25 and 82% at 05:59 which makes 3% in 34 minutes. That equals to 5.3% per hour, so that the phone should last almost 20 hours - that's fine.
However, in my case I see a drain of almost 9% per hour which is far too much IMHO. I logged yesterday when I left work charging until 65%. Whith 9% per hour it should have lasted until midnight, but suddenly it dropped from 33% to 2% in only one hour!
You cpould see this effect in the attached graphic
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Well in the case of osasih we have 85% at 05:25 and 82% at 05:59 which makes 3% in 34 minutes. That equals to 5.3% per hour, so that the phone should last almost 20 hours - that's fine.
However, in my case I see a drain of almost 9% per hour which is far too much IMHO. I logged yesterday when I left work charging until 65%. Whith 9% per hour it should have lasted until midnight, but suddenly it dropped from 33% to 2% in only one hour!
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Yes right saying But some how it drain so much like if i listen songs yesterday i was listning songs and i fall sleep the battery was full and wen i wakeup the battery all most finish..and even wen i clos the mobile put the batter out and reopen it again so i see batter is 10% befor closing the mobile it was 53%
jna9000 said:
Well in the case of osasih we have 85% at 05:25 and 82% at 05:59 which makes 3% in 34 minutes. That equals to 5.3% per hour, so that the phone should last almost 20 hours - that's fine.
However, in my case I see a drain of almost 9% per hour which is far too much IMHO. I logged yesterday when I left work charging until 65%. Whith 9% per hour it should have lasted until midnight, but suddenly it dropped from 33% to 2% in only one hour!
You cpould see this effect in the attached graphic
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I'm going to assume that you read my post on the first site^^
try rebooting the phone and look whether the problem persists. I know it sounds stupid but I think there's a bug somewhere that eats battery after flashing or randomly after boots. I only experienced signs of it after flashing since I don't really shut down my phone on any other occasions
theduckking said:
I'm going to assume that you read my post on the first site^^
try rebooting the phone and look whether the problem persists. I know it sounds stupid but I think there's a bug somewhere that eats battery after flashing or randomly after boots. I only experienced signs of it after flashing since I don't really shut down my phone on any other occasions
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OK i will try to flash again and see how it takes but rather flashing will break the mobile isn't? lets try wth darky final rom 9.4
I've just jumped ship to the LG G4 after I was getting annoyed with my s6 battery. I hated the fact that for it to be vaguely good, you had to disable pretty much everything!
I've just been doing a little tweaking on my new G4 and I let it sit with all my normal apps installed to test standby. I just got to 8 hours 44minutes before the battery dropped to 99%. ( I was playing with it since the 8 1/2 hour mark).
How? I installed Greenify and Amplify.
ROM: S3V3N's rom v 6.0
Greenified:
Facebook ( Wake up path cut off)
Facebook messenger ( wake up path cut off)
My EE
One drive
Onenote
Facebook is known to be a big drain, but I use it and don't like to fully disable it. With these settings I still get Facebook notifications!
I still receive gmail etc too. It all seems to work as it should, but doesn't drain for no reason!
The typical LG (G3/G4) slow-drop-from-100-percent "issue".
G4 has it (using a proper setup), G3 has it. It says *nothing* :good:
Case in point, very old G3 pic (8 months ago or so):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k6aanjf6bgcpygj/BFE6123FCFDA_LG G3_2_PORTRAIT.png?dl=0
Once the battery drops to 99, the "real" drain starts
Ahaaa thats not how it works. Keep using the phone till you get to 10% and then compare to the s6. You will notice s6 has better battery life.
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I've never understood why people try to get every possible second out of the battery. They disable half the functions of the phone just to get a better battery graph. I prefer to enable everything and use the phone as it was designed for. Otherwise, you may as well just buy a basic Nokia.
the_scotsman said:
I've never understood why people try to get every possible second out of the battery. They disable half the functions of the phone just to get a better battery graph. I prefer to enable everything and use the phone as it was designed for. Otherwise, you may as well just buy a basic Nokia.
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Hahahaha funny but so true. Lol
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Great job. I like to keep most features on but I don't want to be a data generator for Google.
I also limit RILJ and WiFiOffdelayifNotUsed in Amplify
Greenify: nope.
Amplify: nope.
Amazing (meaningless) 100%-99% drain? Of course.
Having a flat line for 8 hours when battery for example is at 25%, okay, yes then I'll be amazed. But from 100 to 99? Nope. Typical LG issue.
Im at 88% after 47 minutes screen time and 20hours 15 mins on battery. With only 2 bars of mobile signal.
Id say that's pretty damn good considering i haven't had to disable any features on the phone!
My S6 was nowhere near as good.
Post using Gsam at the end of the battery cycle, say 10%. with the app sucker list.
One Twelve said:
Post using Gsam at the end of the battery cycle, say 10%. with the app sucker list.
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Just installed Gsam, checked after half hour and guess what..
Top of app sucker list.
1)Android system : 10%
2) GSam battery monitor: 8.1%
So looks like Gsam will screw up my test as its now causing drain :/
f1ux said:
Just installed Gsam, checked after half hour and guess what..
Top of app sucker list.
1)Android system : 10%
2) GSam battery monitor: 8.1%
So looks like Gsam will screw up my test as its now causing drain :/
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The irony
The old eternal question about battery.....? Guys you bought the phone to be as it is. You can take spare battery or charger with you. Unless you go to hike mount Everest. Even then you have solution.
But one i am agreed is that we shouldn't be Googles data provider.
f1ux said:
Just installed Gsam, checked after half hour and guess what..
Top of app sucker list.
1)Android system : 10%
2) GSam battery monitor: 8.1%
So looks like Gsam will screw up my test as its now causing drain :/
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I don't know why gsam is even in that list. anyone know ?
But let it run down to 10% and post the summary.
One Twelve said:
I don't know why gsam is even in that list. anyone know ?
But let it run down to 10% and post the summary.
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Could be a while before im at 10%!
Gsam says it was plugged in 11hours ago. It wasnt! That was when gsam was installed
And before anyone says 'you havent used your phone' that is the point of this test!
You cant expect a phone to last long when you're using it if it doesnt last long when you're not using it!
i get amazing battery life just by disabling Google location services and Google Now... ever since i did that, my battery life rivals my old iPhone 6 Plus in stand-by mode, i usually get a 3-5% battery drain while asleep at night (7-8 hours)
f1ux said:
Could be a while before im at 10%!
Gsam says it was plugged in 11hours ago. It wasnt! That was when gsam was installed
And before anyone says 'you havent used your phone' that is the point of this test!
You cant expect a phone to last long when you're using it if it doesnt last long when you're not using it!
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Averages per complete charge.... Screen on is just over 3hr. Nothing special. Battery can last for a week if you never turn the screen on.
f1ux said:
Could be a while before im at 10%!
Gsam says it was plugged in 11hours ago. It wasnt! That was when gsam was installed
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then you will run it again once you recharge.
And before anyone says 'you havent used your phone' that is the point of this test!
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stats at 10% otherwise it means squat.
so you know what we want to see.
1. gsam summary page, along with the app lists ( this means 2 screen grabs)
2. stock battery usage with the graph page (this has apps listed as batery consumers)
3. click the graph and post that too (this has no apps instead it has lines at the bottom showing when gps, wifi, cell, awake and charging bar charts)
total 4 screen grabs.
You cant expect a phone to last long when you're using it if it doesnt last long when you're not using it!
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how long is long for you ? in terms of sot and run time.
And what do you consider acceptable in terms of sot/run time ?
One Twelve said:
then you will run it again once you recharge.
stats at 10% otherwise it means squat.
so you know what we want to see.
1. gsam summary page, along with the app lists ( this means 2 screen grabs)
2. stock battery usage with the graph page (this has apps listed as batery consumers)
3. click the graph and post that too (this has no apps instead it has lines at the bottom showing when gps, wifi, cell, awake and charging bar charts)
total 4 screen grabs.
how long is long for you ? in terms of sot and run time.
And what do you consider acceptable in terms of sot/run time ?
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On my s6 the phone never lasted more than 2 days and i was lucky to get 3 hours screen time.
Most i ever had on the s6 was 4 hours with lower brightness than i have on the G4.
I don't need gsam or any other app to show me the g4 is lasting longer.
f1ux said:
And before anyone says 'you havent used your phone' that is the point of this test!
You cant expect a phone to last long when you're using it if it doesnt last long when you're not using it!
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I'd say that your test is completely pointless. You're just testing the battery consumption of a brick in your pocket!
How realistic is it to carry around a smartphone that you don't use at all for >2 days.
In my view it's just a big waste of time what you're doing there...
Wastl0r said:
I'd say that your test is completely pointless. You're just testing the battery consumption of a brick in your pocket!
How realistic is it to carry around a smartphone that you don't use at all for >2 days.
In my view it's just a big waste of time what you're doing there...
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Not really, because before the tweaks, the standby drain was much bigger.
Lower standby drain = more screen time, so now I know it drains less in standby I should get better battery life in ' normal' usage and more screen time.
A pointless test is person X saying " My battery life is awful" and not stating which apps they have installed and what their mobile signal is like.