Afternoon all!
I would REALLY like to completely wipe my phone and SD and start all over from scratch. I'm rooted, and I've tried WAY too many codes/flashes/apps that I'm sure embedded code in my system that causes some of the errors I get now. I've been told that if I wipe the SD, it'll properly reset, but I've also read of problems after wipe. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a fool proof way to start all the way over for a brand new phone feel. I'll un/re-root if necessary.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!
IP IHI II IL
I remember last time having this idea on a random day feeling that my phone was too much, I decided to go to my sd card on my phone from my PC and deleted every folder there WHICH IS NOT GOOD AT ALL, so I'd suggest you wait for someone who knows or can tell you how to properly start over fresh on your new phone.
impatient, but not stoopid!
yeah, I was thinking of goin' rogue and just randomly deleting crap, but my better side made me hold off... I DID get impatient, though and try a suggestion from the Virus forums. I ran the format SD from the phone, then replaced all my ROM zips, and rebooted to recovery first wiping everything 2-3 times, then re flashing Virus ROM 4.X, and my favorite functions/kernel/radios/font... So far so good, though I still would REALLY like to start all the way from scratch. There were some settings embedded into the phone it seems, as I still have my custom splash, even before flashing again... For now, I guess I'm ok with a semi-clean slate, but would still like to know whether or not I can completely start from scratch...
Thanks for the reply, alekosy!
IP IHI II IL said:
yeah, I was thinking of goin' rogue and just randomly deleting crap, but my better side made me hold off... I DID get impatient, though and try a suggestion from the Virus forums. I ran the format SD from the phone, then replaced all my ROM zips, and rebooted to recovery first wiping everything 2-3 times, then re flashing Virus ROM 4.X, and my favorite functions/kernel/radios/font... So far so good, though I still would REALLY like to start all the way from scratch. There were some settings embedded into the phone it seems, as I still have my custom splash, even before flashing again... For now, I guess I'm ok with a semi-clean slate, but would still like to know whether or not I can completely start from scratch...
Thanks for the reply, alekosy!
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Maybe this'll help, I tested myself and it works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424
alekosy said:
Maybe this'll help, I tested myself and it works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424
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GET OUTTA' MY HEAD!
I used that as well, and yeah, it works great! Thanks!
IP IHI II IL said:
GET OUTTA' MY HEAD!
I used that as well, and yeah, it works great! Thanks!
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Glad I helped you there, It's really useful for me too xD
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God do I hate technology sometimes.
Phone was working perfectly, ages ago, I had updated it to JF 1.5, with apps2SD, and everything is working perfectly until today, I restart my phone (not the first time I have done this since last updating my phone), and for some reason it cant go beyond the android flashing screen. Just keeps going.
WTF do I do? I do not want to have to reflash my phone causing me to have to reinstall all my apps, etc. Just too much hassle, I hope it doesnt come to that.
Does anyone have any ideas?
I have tried removing the battery and putting it back, no difference. Maybe I didnt do it for long enough.
Any advice or help would be much appreciated.
wel I thought I may as well reflash with JF 1.5, and have done so, but the phone STILL won't go past the flashing android screen.
Dunno what to do now, I had thought this would definately do the trick.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Use the search bttom.... and WIPE the phone, Wipe the phone and problem solve...
i have almost same problem
except mine goes past android screen then screen goes blank but stays lit up
Don't wipe your phone. Try this first.
Krazyone said:
Figured i would update this with the knowledge i have gained. Erase the EXT2 / 3 partition then wipe. Load the ROM again and reboot. This should let it pass the boot loop. I had the problem this morning with Drizzy's Hero build and now with JAC's I am running tests with.
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I had the same problem so I did what Krazyone suggested in one of the post. And it solved my problem. It's something to do with your EXT partition be corrupted or something.
EDIT: You will have to either reload your apps or restore them from your backup.
Same problem here & tried as you suggested...
BeenAndroidized said:
Don't wipe your phone. Try this first.
I had the same problem so I did what Krazyone suggested in one of the post. And it solved my problem. It's something to do with your EXT partition be corrupted or something.
EDIT: You will have to either reload your apps or restore them from your backup.
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I tried that, but phone still wouldn't boot past the android screen. So, will wipe & start anew.
I have a very annoying problem with my HD....after a few days of using a ROM, the phone suddenly decides to hard reset itself. Often it is when it is booting up, it will just about finish and then reset, and then go through the setup routine again like it has just been flashed.
Even worse, is that when it does this it formats my SD card, sometimes so it is not even partitioned any more I have to format it again, and obviously everything is gone. Even tried running some data recovery software but it can't recover my stuff.
This is seriously annoying me, anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
hsclater said:
...after a few days of using a ROM...
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Does this mean that you've recently flashed a custom ROM? If so, it sounds like you need to try a different one and, if it keeps happening, flash the original ROM back on it and get it replaced as faulty.
Sounds a pain in the arse (not literally)!
Yes it has a custom ROM, but this happened once when it still had a stock ROM on, and has happened using several different custom ROMs.
I guess the phone may be faulty, I can't understand why it formats the card when it does it, not good!
hsclater said:
I guess the phone may be faulty, I can't understand why it formats the card when it does it, not good!
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Yeah - I wouldn't even put a card in that phone again. Afraid it does sound like a warranty replacement, assuing you've got a warranty.
Good luck mate!
I'm serious. It's slow everything force closes and I figured now that cyanogen had his new build of Froyo....I could give the kang o rama a try. but everything is still force closing and I have no idea how to fix it and I'm about ready to just give up :/
What do I do?
Are you completely wiping everything before you install a rom?
Give yourself a wipe, or at least a cache partition wipe
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if its slow then something is using a large amount of cpu power.
I just caught Flickie doing it (thanks to CPUStatusLED)....but it stopped before i got to uninstalling it.
Backup your apps, wipe everything data, ext, cache..then install a ROM.
My phone was freezing/rebooting 3-10 times a day before I did the above and now its quite stable.
EVERYTHING has been wiped. Dalvik, cache, Factory reset, everything I could do without doing anything to the SD card.
I'm seriously at a loss for words.
Currently on kang o rama's 2.2 cyanogen build A2 btw is what I'm trying to work with. Though it has been no different for other roms. I Mean it's so unresponsive and always force closes everything
2.1 works ok ?
2.2 doesn't you say? after all wipes and a clean install of Cyanogen and other ROMs? How about stock Froyo FRF91?
It may be a hardware error if the stock one doesn't work. So even if you got an unlocked phone, Google/HTC should replace it because it's hardware. If you're installing it wrong SOMEhow.. then that's another story.
EDIT: NVM believe I found it
I just went through this.
Just download the PASSIMG.ZIP from the latest Eclair build and put it on the root of your SD card. Go into bootloader and it will automatically pick it up.
In a minute you'll be at stock Eclair. By the time you can get into the Settings menu, you'll have the majority of FRF91 downloaded. Let it do its thing and probably within 5 minutes you'll be sitting pretty on a stock FRF91 Froyo build.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=passimg+eclair
First link
If you've used the Froyo App2SD function, then you might need to delete your .AndroidSecure folder on your SD card after a flash.
I never touched that folder and the last few times I flashed a ROM I was getting weird problems where I couldn't install things, it would hang, I would get FCs, etc. I deleted that folder, rebooted, and everything was cleared up for me.
...Of course you'll have to install those apps again.
mudrock1000 said:
I'm serious. It's slow everything force closes and I figured now that cyanogen had his new build of Froyo....I could give the kang o rama a try. but everything is still force closing and I have no idea how to fix it and I'm about ready to just give up :/
What do I do?
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Have you installed the latest radio image? Even if you have give it another flash. I had the same problem on my Hero
mindfrost82 said:
If you've used the Froyo App2SD function, then you might need to delete your .AndroidSecure folder on your SD card after a flash.
I never touched that folder and the last few times I flashed a ROM I was getting weird problems where I couldn't install things, it would hang, I would get FCs, etc. I deleted that folder, rebooted, and everything was cleared up for me.
...Of course you'll have to install those apps again.
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Yea thats a good idea. The short time I've been on Android, it seems like A LOT of CRAP gets brought into new builds. Everytime I flash a new rom, the Market downloads all the crap from before. lol.
While I can see it as being a nice feature, it can get troublesome. When my replacement Nexus comes tomorrow, I'm going to backup my APK files and format my SD card. Start completely from scratch on Froyo 2.2
Usually I have NO problem hunting for things myself...but I DO NOT AT ALL...see this "Passimg" in that thread.
ANYWAYS I'm gonna try reflashing the radio to see if that helps
This is why I just use stock stuff, I want my phone to just work
khaytsus said:
This is why I just use stock stuff, I want my phone to just work
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Foo Stock dun work .
Anyways good news...I've gone more then a few minutes without it crashing. . I think the radio think might actually have worked.
Wait market crashed. I'm hoping it's just a thing and I'm gonna reboot and try again.
Nope just more Force Closes
Tell me about this passimg.
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Foo Stock dun work .
Anyways good news...I've gone more then a few minutes without it crashing. . I think the radio think might actually have worked.
Wait market crashed. I'm hoping it's just a thing and I'm gonna reboot and try again.
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And you're sure your N1 isn't defective?
Other then the occasional data connection failure...yea Eclair worked perfectly.
And sriously...guys I need the effing stock rom image I wanna try something else BUT I don't have it.
Oh yea. AND NOW I'm trying to reinstall the apps but it says out of space...and I can clearly see I have 111 mbs of internal storage. I think it's installing it on the SD card. IDK HOW TO MAKE IT STOP and I'm so frustrated I'm about ready to dump my n1. I've been screwing with this forever and I was excited. The first build of Cyanogen and nothing works...
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Other then the occasional data connection failure...yea Eclair worked perfectly.
And sriously...guys I need the effing stock rom image I wanna try something else BUT I don't have it.
Oh yea. AND NOW I'm trying to reinstall the apps but it says out of space...and I can clearly see I have 111 mbs of internal storage. I think it's installing it on the SD card. IDK HOW TO MAKE IT STOP and I'm so frustrated I'm about ready to dump my n1. I've been screwing with this forever and I was excited. The first build of Cyanogen and nothing works...
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Wipe, install rom, reboot and hold volume down to load the bootloader, power off in bootloade, pull battery, remove microsd, replace battery, boot and set it up. See what happens.
you might just have a faulty hardware (bad ram or something)
norazi said:
you might just have a faulty hardware (bad ram or something)
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I'm betting it has something to do with data saved on the sd. . .
Here's my problem before it becomes a chew toy,, Im currently running CYANOGENMOD-6.1.2,,I dont know if this is what you have to deal with when rooted,, ill set my phone down through the night and when i get ready to start my day i have to reboot everytime just to use it! ITS GETTING ANNOYING!!,, The internet wont work, The market wont load and if im lucky i might be able to download an app,, Some of my widgets say "problem loading" I have to trash them and reload,, Some apps tend to force close,, And also the delay after turn on the screen is bout 2sec or so..
Anybody out there experiencing the same issue? Help enjoy my phone again PLEASE HELP ME OUT!
Thanks Guys,
ImEVO
Sorry guys i just realized I posted in the wrong area! CRAP!!
Hope this helps...
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Here's my problem before it becomes a chew toy,, Im currently running CYANOGENMOD-6.1.2,,I dont know if this is what you have to deal with when rooted,, ill set my phone down through the night and when i get ready to start my day i have to reboot everytime just to use it! ITS GETTING ANNOYING!!,, The internet wont work, The market wont load and if im lucky i might be able to download an app,, Some of my widgets say "problem loading" I have to trash them and reload,, Some apps tend to force close,, And also the delay after turn on the screen is bout 2sec or so..
Anybody out there experiencing the same issue? Help enjoy my phone again PLEASE HELP ME OUT!
Thanks Guys,
ImEVO
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I would say to do a full wipe (cache, dalvik cache, data, and reset to factory setting) and reflash the rom & kernel combo of your choice. Also update your radios to the latest and then update your profile under menu\settings\system updates. This should get the phone up and running better and stop the need for constant reboots. As for the widgets saying "problem loading", I get that as well and I think it is due to moving the widgets in question to your sd card. If you put them back on the internal memory of the phone that shouldnt happen anymore. If you are worried about taking up to much internal memory with widgets just set up the aps2sd and you will be able to put more of your apps on the partioned portion of your sd card and save more internal memory. Let me know if you have any questions. Hope this helps. I would like to save your EVO and not make it a chew toy for anyone!
I agree with adam, try a complete wipe, even flash calkulin's format all.zip (search for it) and flash the latest radios and re flash cyanogen. You'd be amazed at what horrors can come from not wiping the dalvik and cache. Speaking of which, try out amon ra recovery if you already haven't.
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I agree with Adam1422. It sounds like you need to do a full wipe and clean install. Do not use Titanium/Launcher/ADW/anyotherprogram backups. Save files like pictures, music, documents off your SD and format the card. Do not reuse settings or data from programs. Go into it like you just bought the phone. That will probably clear up all of your issues.
Are u using any custom kernels. Could be a more have or less have issue
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subcypher said:
I agree with Adam1422. It sounds like you need to do a full wipe and clean install. Do not use Titanium/Launcher/ADW/anyotherprogram backups. Save files like pictures, music, documents off your SD and format the card. Do not reuse settings or data from programs. Go into it like you just bought the phone. That will probably clear up all of your issues.
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Im sorry guys im a flippn newbe at this i had some dude root my phone for me.. he seemed like he knew what he was doing.. but i guess not! i need step by step directions ( i can follow directions very well).. Will all this brick my phone??
BrianDigital said:
Are u using any custom kernels. Could be a more have or less have issue
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This is what my phone says,,
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.9-cyanogenmod
[email protected] #1
ImEVO said:
Will all this brick my phone??
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Not if you do your due diligence, read up on how to do it and then perform the steps carefully without rushing. We were all n00bs once, my friend. Sure there's some tension when rooting for the first time, but there's one hell of a rush when it works. You'll be fine.
snowboarda42 said:
I agree with adam, try a complete wipe, even flash calkulin's format all.zip (search for it) and flash the latest radios and re flash cyanogen. You'd be amazed at what horrors can come from not wiping the dalvik and cache. Speaking of which, try out amon ra recovery if you already haven't.
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What is ra Recovery?? i have the option under rom manager..
The Evo is full of BPAs. Don't use it as a chew toy.
subcypher said:
I agree with Adam1422. It sounds like you need to do a full wipe and clean install. Do not use Titanium/Launcher/ADW/anyotherprogram backups. Save files like pictures, music, documents off your SD and format the card. Do not reuse settings or data from programs. Go into it like you just bought the phone. That will probably clear up all of your issues.
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Are there any other tips that i can try before i attempt surgery??
indagroove said:
The Evo is full of BPAs. Don't use it as a chew toy.
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Try to explain that to a 9 month old hahahah.. hes going to be a geek he dont like toys just electronics! lol
Not that I can think of, man. Good luck. Come back if you need help.
you are in the right forum to fix your phone...
it is not the phone.. but I agree with others.. you need a fresh setup done.
or even try a different ROM...
the hard part has been done for you.. ROOTing...
you need to go learn about the ROM you like... and how to install it.
learn about: wipe, recovery, nandroid backup, ROM, ...
this needs to be learned anyways for your life with EVO, because you wanted it rooted.
ps.. to fix this.. you are going to loose all your data and put your phone almost back to stock form. dont worry.. contacts and calendar should be backed up to google if you told evo to do so.
Dan330 said:
you are in the right forum to fix your phone...
it is not the phone.. but I agree with others.. you need a fresh setup done.
or even try a different ROM...
the hard part has been done for you.. ROOTing...
you need to go learn about the ROM you like... and how to install it.
learn about: wipe, recovery, nandroid backup, ROM, ...
this needs to be learned anyways for your life with EVO, because you wanted it rooted.
ps.. to fix this.. you are going to loose all your data and put your phone almost back to stock form. dont worry.. contacts and calendar should be backed up to google if you told evo to do so.
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Where can i direction to do the procedure?? whats the first step??
here is a good place to start reading:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
I would like for you to try a new ROM... that is Sense ... so that you are able to use it more to what the EVO was.
this ROM is stable and has everything working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
once you have done one Flashing of a ROM.. and working..
you can easily do others as you find interest in them.
more side reading for afterwards:
there is the rooting procedure that I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
since you are already rooted.. this not needed.
but you should read the first page.. for your knowledge
here is the main forum for evo on xda.. for development. lots for you to research on new things for evo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
ImEVO said:
Try to explain that to a 9 month old hahahah.. hes going to be a geek he dont like toys just electronics! lol
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I have a 3 year old and a 5 month old. The 3 year old is a geek, but she only gets to touch my Evo when in airplane mode. Remember who's the parent and who's the child.
indagroove said:
Remember who's the parent and who's the child.
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yeah, like this person:
cnstarz said:
yeah, like this person:
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oooh man,, only if that was my kid! beat him like a redheaded step child!! hahaha it was funny tho
Definitely make sure before you go flashing ROMs and stuff you do a nandroid backup.
Step-by-step instructions for how to do this, plus flash ROMs and stuff, can be found here:
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Ask your friend what method he used to root your phone, plus check which recovery manager you're using (reboot your phone into recovery, it should say which manager it is. If you're still running CyanogenMod there should be an option to do this if you choose reboot instead of shutdown when holding the power button.)
Hi, (this is my first post here)
well I have a really nasty problem. Since my kitkat update there have been apps facing a lot of issues, thanks to their bugs/wanted changes with the permission setup and so on... In an attempt to fix that I tried to flash the new A7 firmware yesterday. (was on the unbranded A6 from Poland)
The problem was that because I'm unbranded, it FAILED at the end of the flash. So the obvious solution would be to flash the FW with a PIT file. But I don't want to loose my data and restore everything. It will take me 8 hours at least. (and this with nandroid backups and what not)
Well after some trial and error it booted up. But the system was corrupted i.e FCs and and and... So I flashed A6 back. All worked/works well now but I have an enormous problem:
The Bluetooth is broken. It tries to turn itself on but doesn't get anywhere. And in the eventually it stops, after 30/40 seconds. And after that it starts again. Well the obvious solution would be to go and delete the bluetooth data/cache and also delete the /data/misc/bluedroid/ folder. But nope. No success. And the same goes for reflashing/dalvik cache+cache wiping and so on. I also tried to take the battery out for some time.
Well the catlog show a lot of problems. It seems to be permission problems in this case too. I know that you suggest that I should only wipe it. But if i restore this **** will get back too. And re-installing everything from scratch will take me 2.5 days. I have like 750 apps or something.
Please help me with this, I beg you!
This is the catlog(filtered):
ht tp://pastebin.com/Hy99A10y
And here is the complete log aswell (the one with the timestamp):
ht tps://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9fgteM7eke-MHFBOFpWcmZtVjg&usp=sharing
Anyone? ;(
kevin_1351 said:
Anyone? ;(
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Visit service center and make a fresh update
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Mr hOaX said:
Visit service center and make a fresh update
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I'm rooted so I tripped my knox. I have not warranty anymore...
But anyway I know that I can fix it if i restore fresh. But I want to repair the Bluetooth, without factory resets.
kevin_1351 said:
I'm rooted so I tripped my knox. I have not warranty anymore...
But anyway I know that I can fix it if i restore fresh. But I want to repair the Bluetooth, without factory resets.
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This is why I use cwm to make a backup...
But seriously, it looks like you might need to do a complete wipe... It sounds like some fragment of the A7 rom has been left there to corrupt your bluetooth....
Pain I know but sometimes this is the only way....
ultramag69 said:
This is why I use cwm to make a backup...
But seriously, it looks like you might need to do a complete wipe... It sounds like some fragment of the A7 rom has been left there to corrupt your bluetooth....
Pain I know but sometimes this is the only way....
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I love many things about android, but one thing that seems to completely miss is the ability to factory reset only certain things like your settings, radios and so on.
Is there really no way to extract everything there has to be, from A6? Like zeroing all bluetooth files but nothing else?
kevin_1351 said:
I love many things about android, but one thing that seems to completely miss is the ability to factory reset only certain things like your settings, radios and so on.
Is there really no way to extract everything there has to be, from A6? Like zeroing all bluetooth files but nothing else?
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Nope, unfortunately not...
Did you edit or flash the platform.xml(extSD fix KK) by any chance??
If so, others have reported Bluetooth breaking (among other things) after editing/flashing the platform.xml. The only fix was to start from scratch (factory reset).
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denski101 said:
Did you edit or flash the platform.xml(extSD fix KK) by any chance??
If so, others have reported Bluetooth breaking (among other things) after editing/flashing the platform.xml. The only fix was to start from scratch (factory reset).
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Yeah you're right. But I still can't wipe... Like that would mean hell for me.
I really DON'T UNDERSTAND why I can't reverse it. Why flashing that zip messed eveything up. Like why doesn't it work now that I've restored the platform.xml backup? Are you shure that there isn't any way? It really doesn't make any sense at all.
kevin_1351 said:
Yeah you're right. But I still can't wipe... Like that would mean hell for me.
I really DON'T UNDERSTAND why I can't reverse it. Why flashing that zip messed eveything up. Like why doesn't it work now that I've restored the platform.xml backup? Are you shure that there isn't any way? It really doesn't make any sense at all.
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Well, I didn't encounter this problem when I edited the file. But I'm just relaying other's, who had this prob and had to factory reset. I would of thought restoring the old platform.xml, setting right permission & rebooting would have fixed it, but apparently that doesn't work. You could possibly try this as a last ditch effort, but going by what other's have experienced, I think resetting is going to be the only fix.
Would you like me to upload my platform file for you to test?
EDIT: (you'll need root) here's one I prepared earlier- rename the xls to xml, move to /system/etc/permissions and set permissions (file)6,4,4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49574602
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kevin_1351 said:
I'm rooted so I tripped my knox. I have not warranty anymore...
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Who in this world put that crazy idea in your head??? Did you even try? Maybe you should
Well I really love android, I do. And it has too many good aspects to switch back to iOS, BUT, Two things really are missing:
an uncomplicated, selfupdating store for mods (it's slowly getting better with the arrival of xposed framework but we still aren't at the same level).
Before xposed, xda was the only place for mods. And devs have to implement auto updating features in their apps themselves if they want it...
With xposed it's as I said better but not really the same actually.
And the last thing is really about my problem here. Nandroid backups/etc are good but not always an option with 25/30 gb of data on your phone (im not including media only apps and so on). So I really ask myself why there isn't a restore/reset option for some things like the system backbone, wifi, bluetooth etc. And this whole permission thing is really pathetic.
I also miss Icloud because it does backups without living a big fingerprint on the device. No bat drain and no errors. Carbon/Helium and all that other crap even titanium are really good but to complicated and battery/process hungry compared to icloud.
So while almost everything else is awesome about android IMO, this really sucks ass. And it's not that I am a noob or to stupid to backup. It's about the fact that it's not as convenient.
Well well....