I bought 2 focus for the family plan through ATT. I added $15 data plan one of the focus phone, other phone without data plan. Is ATT eventually (automatically) add data plan to the phone without data plan? All I need just WIFI one of the focus phone. how do I set focus just for WIFI not dataplan? or this is just a waste of time (att automatically add it no way u can hide it)? why not att force me to add data plan when I buy it? is focus not smartphone?
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achu.
atmonline said:
I bought 2 focus for the family plan through ATT. I added $15 data plan one of the focus phone, other phone without data plan. Is ATT eventually (automatically) add data plan to the phone without data plan?
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Probably. Like the minute you turned the phone on, you will receive a text message from AT&T.
All I need just WIFI one of the focus phone. how do I set focus just for WIFI not dataplan?
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There is a check box in settings for cell data. You can uncheck it and your phone will only use wi-fi.
why not att force me to add data plan when I buy it? is focus not smartphone?
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Probably the mistake of the CSR who sold you the phone. Focus definitely is a smartphone.
AT&T will put a data plan on your phone at some point if you are using cellular data.
If you have yet to receive a text with a message like "We noticed that your phone does not have a data plan. We have added the correct service to your device," then maybe you got lucky!
Better safe than sorry. You should get the afforementioned text message from AT&T but if you don't, that doesn't mean they didn't send one. It may mean that....oh right, you're on AT&T. Log into the web site and check to see if you have one, what tier it's set at and so on. Once upon a time they had one plan, now they have a couple and it would suck to get 200MB/mo and go way over because you assumed you had more. AT&T doesn't discount for poor assumptions, be certain.
foxbat121 said:
Probably the mistake of the CSR who sold you the phone. Focus definitely is a smartphone.
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It was ATT website no CSR involved, but if I try IPhone then there is no skip option to avoid data plan.
I have a different question though.
What if I have WIFI on (Available) and I try to use internet, which connection would focus use WIFI or ATT data plan? someone can confirm?
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Achu
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I just switched from t-mobiles Sidekick Lx to this Wing, and i was wondering if there was anyway i can get the internet to work on this phone. thanks.
Yes jsut call T-Mobile and ask for the data plan, they will add it to your account and tell you when its on and your good to go!
I didnt' want to swtich to the data plan cause it didnt' include free text messages. I was hoping to use the sidekick internet until my contract was over.
krazieboy said:
I didnt' want to swtich to the data plan cause it didnt' include free text messages. I was hoping to use the sidekick internet until my contract was over.
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Nah, it's a separate data plan I believe.
The only way you are gonna be able to use the internet w/o getting Tmo's data plan is if there is wifi available.
Thought I'd share a story to anyone else in my situation or anyone thinking about picking up an Xperia.
I bought a X1i and I use AT&T here in the USA. Since they don't have cheaper plans when you are out of contract I thought I'd go ahead and get a subsidized phone (Iphone 3G) and then sell it to make back some money to discount the service.
Turns out if you get the Iphone plan whenever you check your voicemail or get a new message your phone is spammed SMS messages from AT&T. Also they block your account from using MMS even if you paid for the messaging packages.
I was able to call and get them to lift the block after an hour or so on the line and also had them disable the visual voicemail. Also AT&T has this system to track what type of phone you are using which you can check at wireless.att.com if you sign in. When I gave AT&T the IMEI of my new number they said it belonged to a Motorola V180 (some old color flip phone from 2005). Because of this the unlimited data for that phone is only $15 a month versus $30 for a PDA, yet there is no difference I still have the full 3G data connection.
Just thought I'd share my story in case anyone is in a similar situation as you might save $180 a year based on the cheaper data plan.
tl;dr version
AT&T's system thinks the Xperia X1 is an old P.O.S. phone which lets you get their cheaper unlimited data plan for P.O.S. phones but still works like the data plan for PDA phones.
I did the same, I went with the $35 everything unlimited data plan. My phone also showed up as the V180, however, you didnt have to get the iphone to get this to work, one of the free phones would of worked just fine. All you have to do once you swapped the SIM card is change the plan online and the changes are instant.
I have been using my new mytouch without a data plan for about a week now. I had data when I activated the phone (didn't sign up for it, but was able to connect), but they have since blocked it. Everything works fine without a data plan except for one thing - MMS. MMS is not working for me now, and I suspect its because I don't have a data plan. I tried changing around APN settings, but haven't managed to find a combination that works. Anyone have any ideas on work around?
So that is weird because technically, without data, you should only get mms / sms and phone.
mms uses the data connection
MMS messages need the data connection to work. SMS messages should work without a data connection since they are transmitted over the signaling portion of the cell channel.
Without the data plan MMS will not work.
Why then did MMS work on my T-Mobile Dash without a data plan?
Dash was a different phone
Windows Mobile on the dash handled data differently than the android software, plus the network systems have been changed to recognize data phones and require the correct data plans.
The Dash was not supposed to get MMS without a data plan but it worked as long as you could connect to T-zones.
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
yea i had the same thing the data worked over 3g for about a day. u can buy the phone form walmart and u will not have to to get the 24.99 data plan i just told them i have it on another line.
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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to view MMS without a data plan? No cuz an unlocked phone only allows you to use the phone with other carriers.
is there anyway to activate it without dataplan simcard....? with wifi same like g1
I think that myTouch "need" simcard with data plan to activate it. only wifi is impossible to activate.
However, I've another question. Is it possible to use this phone when I have no Internet conneciton (wifi/2G/3G)? I just need to use if for making a call.
yes. if your mytouch 3g is alrady activated (needs sim cardwith data plan for that), you can SMS and make phonecalls and check voicemail (visual voicemail does need data tho) without any data connection, just like normal cellphones.
OK folks. For those of you that missed it. The My Touch has to be activated using a sim card with a data plan attached. Once that is done, you don't need data. MMS on the MyTouch runs through the data portion of the network. Yot car root the phone, load up a different recovery image like Cyanogen or Amon ra's, and no more need to activate that handheld again. As for MMS, no fix for that. You have to have data to send an MMS. Large text, Picture, Or video messages will not work on a text package alone. A "large" text message is about 133 characters or more. Don't realy remember to well these days. The phone was designed around a data connection. Without it, you're gonna have issues.
Is there a List?
Is there a list of phones that MMS won't work or other features are disabled? The G1 used to not need data now T-mobile say's it does? so if I was to get a G1 without data is MMS gone? Curious about the Nokia nuron or nexus 1 is anything disabled without data?
I want to get a nice phone preferably with wifi but no data plan what is my best option a list of phones that work 100% without Data would be very cool...
Need to know my options so I can start trying to get a deal on the phone I select.
Thanks
Hurlamania
Das_mobile said:
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
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No not really. the $10 Unlimited web for phone data plan works. Just need to tweak around the apn settings.
I have also seen some forums that included that a 5.99$ Tzone data plan also work with mytouch 3g. However it is difficult to get that plan.
After activating and sim unlocking the phone, If I ever factory data reset, would I have to activate it again with a Tmobile sim card?
Now I am confused.
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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Are you getting charged for data usage? AFAIK all MMS has to go over towers so that the carriers network can authenticate the phone they're are coming from, but I could be wrong.
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I ordered a HD2, And am on AT&T. Wouldnt mind killing my 30$ data plan, is there any way to stop it from connecting, and can AT&T tell I have a smart phone?
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I ordered a HD2, And am on AT&T. Wouldnt mind killing my 30$ data plan, is there any way to stop it from connecting, and can AT&T tell I have a smart phone?
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to answer your question first, yes you can cancel your data plan and stop the HD2 from connecting to ATT data (by not setting up your device during your first setup, or you can just delete the media net settings after setup is complete. i.e. selected AT&T as your network during the first boot up).
AT&T would not recognize your device, as it is not listed in theit IMEI bank under AT&T's system. (you can just tell the representative that you have an old flip phone, if they ever call you to get the imei of your phone since it is not going to appear in their system or at the time that you cancel your data service, as i am sure they will ask you why are you terminating the iphone plan). so make sure you have an old cingular or At&t phone that you can give out the IMEI when you made the call. (This will also benefit you in the future, if you ever decided to get a medianet unlimited for $15.00 which is the perfect data plan for HD2 under AT&T since your HD2 (assuming that it is a T8585 or a Tmobile brand phone and HSDPA or 3G will not be supported.)
Im sorry but i just don't see the use of having a device such as the HD2 without using the data. Im sure that you are aware that HD2's features such as weather, maps, facebook, etc.. require's an internet connection right??? so if you decided to cancel your plan, you can only be connected thru Wifi or if ever you permit, AT&T pay per use is extremely expensive.
1Cent = 1KB
opening yahoo.com webpage = assuming 1,024KB = 1MB = $1.00
so think about it really good if i were you.
cheers
I think one problem is that the T-mo HD2's are showing up as Blackberries so they are going to force the $30 data plan regardless. I'm 100% positive they think I have a blackberry but I'm hoping that someone can tell me that they don't enforce the $30 plan in this instance?
I just received my Focus from the Amazon $49 deal and was able to transfer my iPhone's unlimited data plan to it. This is only possible if you have a "grandfathered" device which already has unlimited data on it, as AT&T has dropped the unlimited plan.
Heres How:
Order your phone on Amazon. Choose any data plan, doesn't matter.
When your phone arrives, charge it, but, DO NOT PUT IN THE SIM CARD.
Have your SIM Card and Box out and available as you will need them.
DO NOT ACTIVATE THE PHONE AS PER AT&T'S INSTRUCTIONS on their web-site.
Call AT&T Wireless [1-800-331-0500]
DO NOT ACTIVATE YOUR PHONE USING THE AT&T MENU
Press "0" to speak to an agent.
Ask to migrate your existing plan over to your new Samsung Focus. This will move your Unlimited Data Plan to your new phone.
Provide the numbers from the phone box
Provide the SIM number from your new SIM.
Have the Agent activate the phone and call your phone to make sure it is working.
There, you should now have a fully activated phone with Unlimited Data.
This is how I was told to do it from Amazon and it works.
If you miss your Visual Voicemail from the iPhone, sign up for Google Voice (www.google.com/voice). You will never miss it!
Enjoy
should this work for any phone purchased through amazon wireless?
yes, I had activated with the $15 plan but then I called them to put back my old unlimited data plan.
my billing cycle is up today so tomorrow i have to see if its still unlimited if its not then im going to call them because on my plan now it still says unlimited.
I wonder if there is anyone out there who could shed some light on this?
I was not able to apply my $15 unlimited data plan that I was on before upgrading to the new Focus because my old device was not a smart phone? I upgraded from the Pantec Matrix.
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konkie said:
I wonder if there is anyone out there who could shed some light on this?
I was not able to apply my $15 unlimited data plan that I was on before upgrading to the new Focus because my old device was not a smart phone? I upgraded from the Pantec Matrix.
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Smartphone and Non Smartphones are 2 different data plans. Since the Focus is a smartphone the only way for you to get unlimited data for a smartphone, you have to have had a smartphone and that data plan.
ShadowLegion said:
Smartphone and Non Smartphones are 2 different data plans. Since the Focus is a smartphone the only way for you to get unlimited data for a smartphone, you have to have had a smartphone and that data plan.
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Correct, I've have a HTC Hermes since '07 with a UL Data plan. Ordered 2 Focus's today through ATT Premier (buy one get one free) and was able to apply the UL plan to it, 2GB plan to my Wife's.
psills said:
I just received my Focus from the Amazon $49 deal and was able to transfer my iPhone's unlimited data plan to it. This is only possible if you have a "grandfathered" device which already has unlimited data on it, as AT&T has dropped the unlimited plan.
Heres How:
Order your phone on Amazon. Choose any data plan, doesn't matter.
When your phone arrives, charge it, but, DO NOT PUT IN THE SIM CARD.
Have your SIM Card and Box out and available as you will need them.
DO NOT ACTIVATE THE PHONE AS PER AT&T'S INSTRUCTIONS on their web-site.
Call AT&T Wireless [1-800-331-0500]
DO NOT ACTIVATE YOUR PHONE USING THE AT&T MENU
Press "0" to speak to an agent.
Ask to migrate your existing plan over to your new Samsung Focus. This will move your Unlimited Data Plan to your new phone.
Provide the numbers from the phone box
Provide the SIM number from your new SIM.
Have the Agent activate the phone and call your phone to make sure it is working.
There, you should now have a fully activated phone with Unlimited Data.
This is how I was told to do it from Amazon and it works.
If you miss your Visual Voicemail from the iPhone, sign up for Google Voice (www.google.com/voice). You will never miss it!
Enjoy
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forgot to mention this only works for people already using the unlimited data plan!
Thanks everyone. Now I feel sad for not taking any upgrade offers to smartphones in the past
I did exactly what is said in the first post. Ordered from Amazon with 2gb and 1500 message plan. I called att to transfer my plan but the rep said I could not. The rep said that I could Not transfer my existing plan (media net 200 bundle with unlimited data) because my previous phone was not a smart phone. I told her I had htc fuze and she was puzzled. She talked to supervisor and still said I could not keep my old plan.