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what roms / radios will give me the best battery life. currently running ahens latest rom with radio 2.08.50.05. battery life is good, have used nrgs roms in the past and they seem to drain my batt within a day of hardly any use.
2.09 radio seems best, as does 1.72 base and 218*** WM builds. look for roms like those.
Laurentius's ultimate power has great battery life. But most are ok for HD2. There are very few stinkers, and most battery life issues are due to 16GB cards - avoid roms with the documents/e-reader tabs to be sure of better battery life.
does a 16gb effect it that much because i am using one of those!
thanks for the tip!
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does a 16gb effect it that much because i am using one of those!
thanks for the tip!
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I would think that it might be an indexing service that are doing this powerdrain, if this is the case - Maybe killing indexing service on SD card would improve battery performance ?
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I would think that it might be an indexing service that are doing this powerdrain, if this is the case - Maybe killing indexing service on SD card would improve battery performance ?
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that would mean that EVERY sd-card drains battery?! or is it ONLY 16gb?
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that would mean that EVERY sd-card drains battery?! or is it ONLY 16gb?
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Reading and writing data on the mem card will use energy... if it's idle though i don't think it will.
shouldn't the indexing be done on only the first boot if it is done anyway?
There are quite a few people complaining about battery dain caused by the memory cards.
The most simple test is proven to start the phone without a memory card. is it better then reformat the card in the phone. copy the files on it and try again. If that not works search for corrupt files on the card. especially music.
the indexing serviceisgion wild on some phones. shutting it down solves the problem.
use the search of the forum on these things and you will find quite a few threads about this subject
Mem cards are all power hungery especially if you have your apps installed to them. Internal memory is more efficient, faster and uses less power.
http://www.techparaiso.com/windows-mobile/tutorials/215-3-battery-life-enhancement-tweaks-of-your-windows-phone-network-backlight-a-general
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2.09 radio seems best, as does 1.72 base and 218*** WM builds. look for roms like those.
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+1 ... this is the only difference for me till now
On Radio 2.09 using Ahenf series ROM took off charge this morning at 7:15 now 13:10 and its on 73% which is a big improvement over other ROMS I have tried Also the icon set on this ROM, Stability and performance is great. Only downside Marketplace doesn't work. Which I don't use anyway
Using the setup in my sig
charge overnight, took out from charger at 6:15, did moderate to high web-browsing and turned on wifi router for bout 15 mins. Battery now at 22:10 61%
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On Radio 2.09 using Ahenf series ROM took off charge this morning at 7:15 now 13:10 and its on 73% which is a big improvement over other ROMS I have tried Also the icon set on this ROM, Stability and performance is great. Only downside Marketplace doesn't work. Which I don't use anyway
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good shout i am really enjoying Ahens ROMS what is the radio you are using the long version 2.09.51.05 or whatever it is?
I've searched the thread but few people seem to comment on battery for Artemis whereas it always gets praised on Ultimate Power. Anyone using it?
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I've searched the thread but few people seem to comment on battery for Artemis whereas it always gets praised on Ultimate Power. Anyone using it?
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Used this before Ahens ROM and in my experiance battery drained quite quickly. Lasting longer and longer now after two charges.
Using ultimate power 4 and can get 3 days from rom with moderate calls
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good shout i am really enjoying Ahens ROMS what is the radio you are using the long version 2.09.51.05 or whatever it is?
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Using 2.09.51.03_2 still running over 25 hours now used for calls about 1 hour, 70ish texts, 20 mins of GT2 on FPSece over 1 hour music playback and about 45 mins of internet on 30% still
just remember that roms like energy's will run down more quickly because the backlight is set so high.
Once you reduce it to 40%/60% battery/external things DO even out. But even then 576MB rom will use more juice esp if you load the memory up.
The more you use the device, the less you will notice differences - because use is use no matter how good a rom is. It's in standby where the tweaks shine.
I personally found Artemis < Dutty's HG < Energy < Ultimate Power.
BUTBUTBUT - we're talking about a few extra percent overnight, or a little during the day. For instance from 2days of moderate use to 2days with a bit more left for the third, but not completely.
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just remember that roms like energy's will run down more quickly because the backlight is set so high.
Once you reduce it to 40%/60% battery/external things DO even out. But even then 576MB rom will use more juice esp if you load the memory up.
The more you use the device, the less you will notice differences - because use is use no matter how good a rom is. It's in standby where the tweaks shine.
I personally found Artemis < Dutty's HG < Energy < Ultimate Power.
BUTBUTBUT - we're talking about a few extra percent overnight, or a little during the day. For instance from 2days of moderate use to 2days with a bit more left for the third, but not completely.
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When I used Energy ROM is was going down 8-12% an hour with it in standby Loved the ROM but this was to much.
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When I used Energy ROM is was going down 8-12% an hour with it in standby Loved the ROM but this was to much.
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couldnt agree more i loved nrgs roms just killed the batt, updated radio last nite and have used as normal this morning from full charge, calls, texts, email, facebook and heavy internet use, still on 80%.... 30% more than usual!
Hi Guys,
I was wondering why Android on HD2 eat up so much battery. Earlier I was thinking, that android is running of SD card...so its the case. However this is not true as in Android HD2 NAND thread its been mentioned many times...that battery won't increase significantly even after NAND install of Android, so where lies the problem...is it because power management drivers on hd2 android not good enough...just curious?
Regards
There must be a problem with your android build or you are not properly managing your battery life. To enjoy good battery life you need to disable radios via power control, and keep screen brightness low.
Current widget tells me that in standby my hd2 uses 3-7 mA. This draw is fine when compared to similar android devices.
Please provide some details on your build and your reading from current widget.
I think he was asking about how much the HD2 life in android is shorter when compared to WM6.X
If this is the case, this has much to do IMHO about how Android works in its innards.
The Android OS has a way of controlling the apps installed in it, to know which apps do which kind of stuff. Like, when a new app is installed it has a file that tells the OS all features it does, and which of those features can be called by other programs (an example is the gallery 3d, that can be used to open pictures of certain types, every time a file that it can open is accessed android asks [if you have more than one type of gallery] which app you want to use to open the picture).
With this kind of control being done by the system in real time in a way totally different from windows (register??) the OS probably need more awake time and probably use more battery.
With the same amount of time spent using similar stuff in windows mobile and android, WM really rulez in terms of Battery Life. BUT I really prefer the new life Android is giving me in HD2. I'm really happy again, feeling like I have a brand new toy again.
P.S: I'm oversimplifying the way this works, without even mentioning the services, widget services, and several other stuff that are running in the background all the time.
i get about the same battery life in winmo n androud. make sure u have a good radio n compatible rom.
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i get about the same battery life in winmo n androud. make sure u have a good radio n compatible rom.
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People always say those things...
Well, let me just say that I'm using one of the best combos out there, and yes I have tested almost all combos you can imagine by my self in my own phone, so I wouldn't rely on someone else's idea of a perfect combo.
Tested more than 10 roms (the list is long so, I wont bother saying all of them, but the most used ones are there, Chucky, Miri's, VBNrom, Dutty's, and several others.
About radio... 2.10, 2.11, 2.12 and now 2.14 I have used all of them too and combined them with each rom...
Right now the best combo FOR MY PHONE and in my opinion is VBN 3.14 and radio 2.14
Multi boot, autoboot android 6sec.
I really think that what is most important is the build, with the same builds, almost all WM roms made for android, and Miri, have the same effect for me, the radios I must say that 2.12 and 2.14 are the best, and 2.14 has better reception in my country, for me.
So, as I have said, FOR ME, the best combo is resumed to VBN 3.14, radio 2.14 and any android build, right now using Desire HD 3.1 from Mdeejay with several different kernells (still testing them)
The kernels and the build are the MOST important thing after you find a good combo.
With the best build/combo and a good WM rom, doing similar things (surfing the net for the same amount of time, phone in sleep mode for the same amount of time,same time talking and etc. the best battery life is surely for WM 6.X hands down.
BUT if you are really getting the same Bat life, you are a lucky guy keep the settings you have, because I must say that I have constantly near me 5 HD2 (from friends), all of them with android now, and every single guy says that the bat life is nowhere near WM 6.x
I could go a full day in WM6.5.3 and have 50-40% remaining in the end of a day with heavy usage. Android, with moderate to heavy use, I'm happy if I can reach the end of the day, and even happier with some bat left
Greetings, Santroph.
I agree battery life is not comparable to WM6.x. People who claim they get the same battery life most likely have a buggered up WM6.x setup or they don't know how to manage power/settings.
Which App are you using to monitor power consumption?
Currently I use PowerTutor.
One time I wondered how 30% of power were lost over night?!
So battery lasts maximum one day until it's empty.
On WM 6.5 it lasts for about 2 days, like santroph already said, too.
A friend of me told me, his HTC Desire has about 80% in the evening. Do they have a better battery?
In usage I have about 540-600mW
He has got 550-650mW
So seems the same power consumption.
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I actually get around the same amount of battery life as well. Just running the stock Froyostone 2.1 without tweaks (don't even know how to do tweaks if my life depended on it). Current Widget shows 0mA when waken up from screen off and hovers at 3-4mA with screen on and idle. Battery drop 1-2% per hour over night.
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There must be a problem with your android build or you are not properly managing your battery life. To enjoy good battery life you need to disable radios via power control, and keep screen brightness low.
Current widget tells me that in standby my hd2 uses 3-7 mA. This draw is fine when compared to similar android devices.
Please provide some details on your build and your reading from current widget.
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I have TMO US HD2 and I'm using NRGZ 21916 18Sep ROM with 2.14 radio. For android I'm using pongster's HyperDroidSense V1.1. I'm using only 2 widgets HTC Analog clock and Weather channel. I have set the screen brightness on automatic and to tell u its quite dull, not at all bright. I've also disabled all Background sync's and no WiFi or bluetooth is enabled...
I do like to fiddle with my phone every now and then...but its not heavy use, I would say its moderate.
Battery life i'm getting is by the end of day, the battery is drained and have to recharge.
Before this android ROM i tried warrenb213 CM6 9/6V1.5a which is claimed by some user's to give best battery life on TMO HD2. Its stock android rom with CyanogenMod...battery life was little better, but it was slow and it didn't had instant wakeup...it took 2-3 seconds after pressing the button to wake...and personally I prefer HTC Sense UI to stock...
On WinMo my phone easily last 2 days with some battery % (about 20-30) left and can easily give me third day too with light use on 3rd day. And by no means i'm using a minimalist WinMo setup...I have CHT v1.8.5 and the same analog clock with seconds hand enabled.
So battery life on Android << that on Winmo. About the argument that Android uses more battery due to how its build. I don't think its the reason, because HTC's other phone like Desire or Desire HD have the same 1230mAh battery and have similar specs...but there battery life is similar what HD2 gives on WinMo.
Also, you must bear in mind that comparing the HD2 to the desire with battery life, the desire is obviously going to win. The desire has been made by HTC to run Android, unlike the HD2. The desire does have a slightly larger battery (i think) but the desire has been optimized by HTC so that it uses the least amount of battery possible I.e when in standby etc.
I don't know all the specifics but this is what I've found out
Hope this helps
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
^^ya, i do understand...but to me its happening like battery life on hd2 w/ android is like 15 hours from 7am in morning to 10pm in night....WinMo give easily gives like 50-60hours depending on use...desire has similar as i've heard...
Agreed not optimized, but I expect it to give 40hours with full charge?
It is not optimized I guess? I get 6-7 hrs on winmo but 5-6 on android.
We can't compare with Desire, even if the hardware are really similar when looking at CPU/GPU, RAM, radio and stuff like that, we have e HUGE NORMAL LCD screen, that really takes way much more battery than Desire's Smaller Amoled screen.
Recent tests have shown that the new desire with Super LCD (thats way better than ours) do waste more energy than the AMOLED one (despite what HTC has to say about it).
I think that we should compare it with our own phones with WM, and probably with the new Desire HD or Evo 4, which have the same Case/Screen and very similar hardware too (despite Evo beeing CDMA).
IMHO...
P.S: People say that the SD card doesn't have anything to do with the battery drain, and that nand should be the same. Well I can say that this IS and IS NOT true... It all depends on which card are you using. I have 4 MicroSD cards, and they all have different behavior with the same combo/build/kernel/battery, even when in sleep mode with everything else (connections and all) disabled.
I have used WatchDog to see if any program was strangely making this happen, and I didn't find anything at all different when the Hungry SDcard was using that much battery, it was all it's fault.
2GB class 4 -> 5-7ma stable
16gb class 2 -> 3-7ma stable
8gb class 2 -> 5-9ma stable
8gb class 6 -> 5-80ma not stable (can be ina 5-7ma for hours and suddenly be in more than one hour in 40-80ma)
I prefer to use the 16gb class 2 for more battery, since the performance is not that better with the class 6 in android.
I've tested this a lot, and retested.
Greetings, Santroph.
I think that the HD2 battery is shortened by the display (Samsung Vibrant is awesomer in that respect) as well as the processor. If I throttle the processor down to 384mhz and keep the screen at 33% (automatic backlit) then I can get pretty decent battery life from 15-24 hours?
Hey guys. I'm a bit new to this, and I have a few questions. 1. Does having a faster microsdcard worsen the battery life of android running on an hd2? 2. With set CPU clocked back to 576 MHz Max 245 min, and all the settings toned back, I barely make it through a days use on my nexus one 2.2 build. Is this normal? Does battery vary greatly from build to build? Is there a build known for good battery life?
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Android builds will always use much more power than WinMo, reverse engineering the drivers is not ideal nor efficient. Some builds use less power than others, best try a few with the current widget installed.
This is a thread on SD card power, I'm not sure it makes a huge difference. If you check the power usage app you will the OS is using 2 or 3 times the power that the screen is - this isn't good for battery life.
Hi lads, iam new to this myself I got my hd2 about 2 weeks ago and havnt had out of my hand since.. the only changes I have made was download hspl3 & flash radio 2.14 and I am currently running darkstones froyo 2.2 and I love it.. the only prob I had for my self was battery it was eating it.. when screen was off I was getting around 168ma and using phone was was up to about 600ma.. after about a week of searching I found out a few things and now I get a full day wit heavy usage. I downloaded setcpu,advanced task killer,green power free,changed a few settings on my phone and now I have a battery tats just as good as running WM.. ill get the exact settings up for u later if u want... hope it helps
after doing a task29, i loaded "vbn reloaded" (minimal winmo rom) ;
use EBL android loader and load mdeejay EvoSense 2.0 revolution ;
using "currentwidget" my battery usage is only 7mA idle with four email
accounts getting updated in the background.
Been using android as the (only) daily OS
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ps just did a rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
need to see if it charges to "100%"
if only battery usage GOES DOWN WHILE ACTUALLY USING ANDROID,
that would be penultimate
(ultimate obviously is NAND boot )
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Hi lads, iam new to this myself I got my hd2 about 2 weeks ago and havnt had out of my hand since.. the only changes I have made was download hspl3 & flash radio 2.14 and I am currently running darkstones froyo 2.2 and I love it.. the only prob I had for my self was battery it was eating it.. when screen was off I was getting around 168ma and using phone was was up to about 600ma.. after about a week of searching I found out a few things and now I get a full day wit heavy usage. I downloaded setcpu,advanced task killer,green power free,changed a few settings on my phone and now I have a battery tats just as good as running WM.. ill get the exact settings up for u later if u want... hope it helps
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I would love to know what your settings are, after 3 hours lite use i lost 45% battery, my gps is off and background update is also off....
2.12.50.xxxx radio.img
it has a lot to do with radi youre using, i found this one really good, have good bttery life, 3g, hdspa, wifi, gps, mms and all working really good...
Hello to all, iam using the android shubcraft version on my hd2 and i cant charge my device 100%. It stops on 85%. Did you guys have an idea??
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I've been testing 2 different batteries fully charged with phone off. Using current widget they get the same readings about 7ma with screen off and average 200 on. One battery drains at about twice the rate of the other. Im pretty sure one is defective. I've cycled both to make sure. Also running on wm I get the same experience. If your lucky enough to catch a battery problem in the first 3 months of purchase from t-mobile they may send you another like they did for me.
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heres a good thread on conditioning the battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827355
as far as sd card speed, a faster card will use less system rescources due to faster read/write speeds, ie: the cpu is under less load for a shorter period of time.
faster io performance = better battery life.
side note, underclocking to far will hurt battery life. this is due to it takeing longer to complete tasks. so if your like me and do a lot of turn the screen on, check some thing , turn it off, then the longer the screen's on the more your draining it.
Been trying alot of builds recently trying to get reliable gps (+ compass) and decent battery life. I really like MDJ's desire HD build nice gps + nav and best of all loving the new sense interface. But as with a few other builds i have tried recently battery drainage has gone through the roof.
To compare to darkstones desire hd build i get 3-8 mA in standby and i can get around 18-22 hours out of the phone. But most of the recent builds i am only managing 8-10 hours max.
I have tried shubcraft 2.0, the latest hyperdroid, the latest MDJ evo and of course MDJ's latest desire hd. All of which have increased significantly in battery drainage. But when i switch back to an older build battery drainage falls in line again.
Is there something i can do to sort it out? As i see a lot of people report decent battery life whereas my observations are totally the opposite.
theres 3 threads currently on the first page with the cure if you want to open your eyes...
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theres 3 threads currently on the first page with the cure if you want to open your eyes...
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looked but can only find everything ive been doing ever since android was first developed for hd2. using winmo battery tweaks, setcpu, turning off all unnecessary wireless (wifi, data, syncs) using a android loader + making sure keypad lights are on. only thing new i found was your post about reconditioning the battery to let it know when it is actually full. none of that addresses the 100+ mA i get in standby and neither does reconditioning the battery.
Hey guys,
I am considering switching to WP 7.5 from WM (default ROM) and was wondering, will I see any battery improvements or it will actually drain it faster?
Also, anyone tried Android 4.0? All I care at this moment is battery life and don't mind whether it's WM, Android or WP.
Hi!
Best batterylife you will get on this device is with WM. Find the right release (some of them have improved power management) and stick to it! You will NOT be able to find better battery-life with Android or WP...
/Anders
That's right. As far as I know, best battery life is with WM6.5. However, I'm really happy about battery life in WP7 (DFT Ultrafruit changing radios and other things). I make more than a day, maybe 2, but being careful about what I do, of course.
Maybe wm6.5 is better.
But I feel wp7 takes better pics.....weird...after taking 240 pictures of a book..the battery from 100 to 13...is this normal or power consuming?BtW,it's standby life can be as long as two days with some general use
Battery life w.r.t various ROMs are as follow
WM 6.5 (Best battery life) >> Android >> WP7 (Worst battery life)
WP7 runs constantly at 998 Mhz (One of the reason for high battery consumption) where as 6.5 and Android can dynamically vary from low CPU consumption to High as required.
Also in WP7 battery life depends on soft radio + hard radio combination.. For good performance with good battery life use 2.15.50.14 Hard radio + 5.50 soft radio.. For best battery life use 2.12 hard radio + 5.50 soft radio..
Trust this clarifies..
Very Low Battery Life...Please help...
Hello friends...
Recently I have installed WM7 to my htc HD2. I found that the battery life is very less.
I have read here that if we use the combination of 2.12 hard radio + 5.50 soft radio.
Please someone tell how to do so....?
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Hello friends...
Recently I have installed WM7 to my htc HD2. I found that the battery life is very less.
I have read here that if we use the combination of 2.12 hard radio + 5.50 soft radio.
Please someone tell how to do so....?
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Search the forum my friend, hardware radio is updated via the custom RUU, it does not delete anything.
Software radio needs to be built in to the WP7 ROM before you install it, changing this will mean a loss of everything
Now, whilst battery life is deffinitely less than WM, one thing i can confirm is that its not worse than android, the problem is that it doesnt always charge completely, so for example, it may say its 100% full, but its only half full, so it appears to drain twice as quick, or it might say its empty and its still half full.
It could say anything, for best battery life use an external charger. reboots during the day will help keep it reporting correctly. Tho even then ive noticed that it doesnt always work, some times you need to plug a USB cable in for a moment for it to refresh it.
In short, battery charging and reporting is all over the place, but once you get a full charge it actually lasts quite a long time with very heavy usage.
Personally, now that I've found a WP7 ROM that doesn't drain my battery in 5 hours, I don't notice a difference. (I'm now using pdaimatejam, BT on with -3 to -7ma drain in standby, Yay!).
Sure, WM will last longer. Sure Android will last SLIGHTLY longer b/c it doesn't run the CPU full speed when the display is on. And that is a clarifying statement to the above. WP7 does NOT run the CPU full speed all the time, only when not in standby.
Having said that, I get a full, usable day in WP7 with moderate use. I got just over a full, usable day in WM6.5, but I had to charge every night regardless.
Ben
Testing 2.12 now, thanks,
Now sure if estimated battery life is correct, before installing it said 5h, now 2h
also dont forget to try camera trick with combination 2.15/5.51
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also dont forget to try camera trick with combination 2.15/5.51
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Does it work with 2.12?
Is 2.15 better than 2.12 in battery life?
10h standby (mail sync on) with all the tricks on HD2 2.12, bad
Hopefully, Tango will increase battery life.
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10h standby (mail sync on) with all the tricks on HD2 2.12, bad
Hopefully, Tango will increase battery life.
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you can dream.... but none updates for WP7 cant be increase battery life... only can be worse
seems your battery in bad shape or something do wrong... also if you play music few hours, play games, nothing strange if battery not least long...
with radio combination 2.15/5.51 + camera trick, with WiFi on 24 hours at day, my battery working around 30 hours with normal use
Hm, well, it said 2h remaining but still holds, another 6 and has battery left... No idea.
I will play with soft/hard roms after Tango is released, as now floashing and losing data for a month or two is pointless
Thanks!
I have actually had better battery life using Pdaimatejam ROM with radio 5.51T/2.15 combo than I had with Android or WM 6.5. Not exactly sure how but it is definitely the case if any of you want to try that
on my hd2 it feels longer with wp7 u can try it on your own
yeah
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on my hd2 it feels longer with wp7 u can try it on your own
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yeah me too..strange. My hD2's battery life with wp7 radio 2.15 is cool better than android
Guys i believe that we have to choose
1.best battery life and slow phone=windows mobilie
2.worse battery life,excellent speed=windows phone
3.good battery life and reasonable speed with freedom to do things that you cant in wp and wm=android
i prefer wp7 and sd android and i have to charge 2 times a day (ok i have 2 batteries and external charger so i change the old one and i am ready to gο) but i have a phone that i enjoy to use
WM7.5
Please help me with step by step instruction to install wm7.5 on my HD2
WM7.5
Please help how to install wm7.5 in htc hd2