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[Q] Possible To Restore Apps, Without Titanium???

Hello everyone,
I'm not the type of person to ask for the answer and get the quick way out...I like to try and research, read and read more before asking for help.
Here is the problem:
Before I flashed my phone...I plugged in the usb and copied all folders and files on the SD card to a folder on my pc, just incase.
Then I followed the instruction to install a custom rom...I used Iced Glacier. I rebooted the phone and the Iced rom worked...after checking out the phone, to see what the Iced rom was all about, I realized I didnt use Ti to make a backup of all apps.
Here is the question:
Can I use the folders/files I copied to the pc, to add the apps back to the phone?
Thanks in advance for any help,
BK

Short answer is no...
If you had backup enabled with Google, your apps should auto install when you log into the market. Most of your data will be lost though...
Did you make a nandroid backup of your ROM? If you did, you could now backup your new install, restore your old system backup, use Titanium to backup everything from your old system backup, then switch back to your new install and use Titanium to restore everything...?
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First I want to thank you for taking out the time. I truly appreciate the help.
I read and re-read what you wrote...I kinda of understand but am not sure if the correct steps to take. When you get a chance, can you please try and explain further.
Thanks so much,
BK

What he is asking is did you make a backup of your stock rom before flashing ice-glacier? If so just go back into rom manager and restore your backup. After restoring, personally i prefer my backup root, because it backs up everything texts, bookmarks ect qnd it is one click for that stuff and one click for all your apps with their data instead of clicking once for each app. After doing your backup reflash I-G and redownload my backup root, run it and everything will be there

That's exactly what I meant...
Also, Titanium has a batch option in the menu, so you can one click backup and restore with Titanium also (you have to have the paid version for it to be effective, though)...
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thanks for the info...but have another question related to this.
I did make a backup before flashing...but here is the problems I'm trying to understand.
From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
So, if that is true and I use a app like backup root...will this just install every single app that was on the phone.
Im just trying to wrap my brain around this, sorry if it is very newbish
BK

fst2011 said:
From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
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Depends on your definition of "bloat". Every ROM contains a collection of system applications.
Keep in mind. Nandroid backups are standalone system images. Titanium Backup and MyBackup and all the other Android apps that do backups are individual application backups. They often can do bulk restores, but that is not always desired or necessary.
You will find you will want both types of backup: Nandroid, and application.

You can also selectively backup and restore apps, so you get to chose what stays, and what goes...
Play around with Titanium and My Backup, and see what they are capable of...
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Do RomManager backups backup the apps and info or just the rom?

When I do a backup with RomManager before I flash a new rom does that backup contain all the apps and user data of the apps for when I flash back to it or does it just contain info about the rom and system data?
For example, I take a backup and then clear all system data and cache info before I flash something new. When I go back to the backup file I took with RomManager will it contain all the apps and stuff that I had on my system prior to the data wipe or will I need to restore all the apps individually with Titanium Backup?

Yes!
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Call Logs, SMS, etc. will be lost.
You need to back those up separately if you wanna save them.
Below are a couple of Apps that work well for this >>
My Back Up (Pro)
SMS Backup & Restore

It does Dave your call log and messages.
It pretty much clones exactly as it is.
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Call logs and SMS I really don't care about, none of it matters to me. I am mostly concerned with having to reinstall all the apps or have to reset all of my launcher preferences and screen layouts.

All that stuff will be saved. I guess if Ur using Rom manager u are using clockwork? I backed up with clockwork and all my apps were still there when I went and restored.
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If you mean you want to restore apps and data on a new ROM then yes you can use tb I use mybackup root.
No you can't restore them from a backup from ROM manager on another ROM thats a backup of your whole system if you restore a backup from rm you will restore the whole ROM you backed up.
Edit: sorry just got the op yes it will be the same way when you backed it up.
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Want to upgrade ROM, best way to save apps?

SO I want to go from the stock 2.2 Android software to the "Virtuous Unity Sense"
My main reasoning for this is,
- I want HTC's gingerbread sense, but it's still not yet released with no word on when it will be.
- Why not upgrade to version 3 if I am going to run a custom rom
Now I have my phone setup EXACTLY how I like it, all the apps took a long time to find and configure, everything works flawlessly and does everything I want it to do.
I assume to upgrade to unity sense I will have to format the phone's memory, what is the best way to backup all the apps and their configurations without loosing any performance or causing problems for the apps?
Also if I one day wanted to load the official HTC 2.3 update is it possible to "un-do" everything and go back to official software?
cheers

The general concensus on backing up is titanium backup. If you are willing to pay for the premium version, it will also do multiple level backup of your apps + data and on restoration, offers a silent installer (ie no need to tap install and done for every app) and it also give suggestions on what to back up at the system level. Hope that helps
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.

i use QTADB its a program for the computer(Linux/Windows/OSX) will back up to you sdcard it works well and easy to use best of all its free(or though if you use it a lot you should donate)

endlesstrail said:
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1)...
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I would assume he has the latest official 1.82 Froyo 2.2.1 ROM. At least this is what I have for many months now.

endlesstrail said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
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I see what you're saying, but you should be fine either way, because even in the downgrade process you have to obtain temproot prior to downgrading. so you obtain temp root, download tibu, create your backups, then continue the downgrade process.
once you're done with everything, download tibu again and restore backups. voila.

Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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AreOh said:
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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yup, by miles

Never used My Backup. Ti backup was perfect for my use the first time i used it so i had no need to try other backups
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I will throw another recommendation for Titanium Backup Pro. Worth the few $$ and its easy to use. Remember, don't backup the 'System Data' unless you plan to restore it to the SAME type of ROM (aka wipe and reinstall the same ROM to fix a problem). Just backup 'Apps + Data'. And restore them on the new ROM.

Thanks for the tips in this thread, just thinking about rooting my phone. I already worked with titanium backup (free version) on my hero and that worked very well. But it has to be rooted and like pmcqueen said I can make the titanium backup before downgrading and after temproot Did not think of that yet.

I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?

I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching roms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.

itm said:
I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
veritasaequita said:
I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried my the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching rooms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
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Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores, restoring apps+data, and even restoring system data when wiping and reinstalling CM7 nightlies, all with no problem.

martonikaj said:
Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!

itm said:
Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Same, I have over 100 apps to restore on a batch restore. Just gotta think smart about it. If you didn't install it from the market, then it probably came with the ROM... And things like Gallery and Clock are already in the ROM, so don't replace those.
Also, you should be running a ROM manager 'fix permissions' after batch restoring apps to fix any little problems.

itm said:
Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Apps that are stored in the "ROM" (i.e., in /system/app, which is normally mounted read-only) are shown in red in Titanium Backup. Apps that are installed by the user (i.e., in /data/app, which is mounted read-write) are shown in white. System settings are shown in green. You can use TB's filters to show only system apps or only user apps.

One major consideration is that Titanium Backup requires root. It will not run without root, even though some of the tasks it performs does not require root. MyBackup Pro will run without root, though it does not have all the features of TB. So if you are running a firmware release where you cannot even get temp root without first wiping the phone, you should use MyBackup Pro first. Or even if you can get temp root, you might feel safer having a backup first anyway.

Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores said:
no I havent had any issues at all with TB, and I used it for a long time. just recently I decided to try mybackup pro and was just wowwed by how much more streamlined the task was, even with options to restore call logs, text, contacts and so on. for me personally it just made for a much smoother restore especially with the well mapped gui. I do still keep TB installed as a alternate option though.
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I used several times Titanium Backup but only for user app and always worked well (no crashes, ...)

[Q] Keeping apps when trying out ROMs?

I've been trying out a few ROMs, and have had problems retaining or restoring apps when moving to a new ROM or restoring an old one. I'm using ROM Manager Premium, and MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my apps.
The problems I've had are:
1. Moved from Virtuous G-Lite to MIUI, using ROM Manager to download and install MIUI, and selected the option to backup my existing ROM. Before doing so I also backed up all my apps and data using MyBackup Pro. When I installed MIUI and tried to restore my apps using MyBackup Pro most of the apps failed to restore, saying something like "no market data found" for each app.
2. Restored Virtuous G-Lite from recovery mode, using the backup taken above. Many of the apps were not correctly restored - their app icons were set to the Android Market icon, and when I tried to run them I got "could not launch the requested activity". These were typically non-core apps that I'd downloaded from the market.
When restoring apps using MyBackup Pro I've selected the option to restore apps only (not data), as I'd previously had problems with apps force closing if I restored apps and data.
Can anyone recommend a tried and tested way of restoring apps cleanly after switching ROMs?

itm said:
I've been trying out a few ROMs, and have had problems retaining or restoring apps when moving to a new ROM or restoring an old one. I'm using ROM Manager Premium, and MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my apps.
The problems I've had are:
1. Moved from Virtuous G-Lite to MIUI, using ROM Manager to download and install MIUI, and selected the option to backup my existing ROM. Before doing so I also backed up all my apps and data using MyBackup Pro. When I installed MIUI and tried to restore my apps using MyBackup Pro most of the apps failed to restore, saying something like "no market data found" for each app.
2. Restored Virtuous G-Lite from recovery mode, using the backup taken above. Many of the apps were not correctly restored - their app icons were set to the Android Market icon, and when I tried to run them I got "could not launch the requested activity". These were typically non-core apps that I'd downloaded from the market.
When restoring apps using MyBackup Pro I've selected the option to restore apps only (not data), as I'd previously had problems with apps force closing if I restored apps and data.
Can anyone recommend a tried and tested way of restoring apps cleanly after switching ROMs?
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Titanium backup is the best app of all. Also when you switched roms, did you do a full wipe on your phone? Because usually backup apps sometimes stores the backups on the phone data so when you wiped the phone is lost all data. Hope this helps
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When I downloaded MIUI using ROM Manager I chose all three options (including wiping the Dalvik cache) - is that what you mean by wiping the phone?
When I backup my apps using MyBackup Pro I always backup to SD card, so the data should not be lost when wiping.
The specific error that I get when trying to restore my apps is "Android market link was not found"
I don't understand why it's trying to contact Android market if it's trying to restore an already-installed app?

itm said:
When I downloaded MIUI using ROM Manager I chose all three options (including wiping the Dalvik cache) - is that what you mean by wiping the phone?
When I backup my apps using MyBackup Pro I always backup to SD card, so the data should not be lost when wiping.
The specific error that I get when trying to restore my apps is "Android market link was not found"
I don't understand why it's trying to contact Android market if it's trying to restore an already-installed app?
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try backing up with titanium backup. its be the best out there.

this is because you wiped your data from ROM manager and not from recovery
best thing to do when youre going to switch to a new ROM is to back up your apps (using either titanium backup or my backup) and then reboot into recovery and from there you factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and battery stats THEN u flash the new ROM
some either use the g2superwipe, or something like that
but doing it this way is the best so you dont have to mess with half ass wipes that cause trouble when u want to restore your apps

With titanium backup pro
Go to menu
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Market doctor
That should fix broken market links
Also don't backup with Google if using tb
Under home
Settings
Privacy
Auto restore
Edit... Be advised that wiping battery stats just be done properly. Do your homework before you wipe battery stats

guyandhisdog said:
With titanium backup pro
Go to menu
More
Market doctor
That should fix broken market links
Also don't backup with Google if using tb
Under home
Settings
Privacy
Auto restore
Edit... Be advised that wiping battery stats just be done properly. Do your homework before you wipe battery stats
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Or he can just use titanum backup to backup his apps lol
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I used MIUI and it's My Backup feature but it wasn't as awesome as Titanium Backup. Titanium Backup backs up your app and its associated data. Then when you restore all your apps/data it links everything back to the market so you can receive updates through the market. ROM Manager and Titanium Backup are two must haves for any user who has rooted their Android device and is playing with ROMs.

The apps that wouldn't restore for me with the whole market link thing were "blackmarket" apps. With those making sure you have saved the apk on your cpu or something seems important. I have titanium pro and mybackup pro.
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Another vote for Titanium Backup.

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Another vote for Titanium Backup.
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Same here. PRO key is worth the few $$.

And yet another vote for Titanium Backup--the pro key is worth the money, and I've personally found the app a lifesaver during "rom experimentation"

kusuriurikun said:
And yet another vote for Titanium Backup--the pro key is worth the money, and I've personally found the app a lifesaver during "rom experimentation"
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yeah, but the pro version, because with the free one you have to re-install all your apps manually. It takes time when you have 100+ apps

[Q] Backing up apps + data.

Hi everyone,
I know there is a lot of backup apps but I've not found one that physically backs up the app and then restores it (re-installs) after installing a new rom.
Can anyone suggest an app that will do this?

T89 said:
Hi everyone,
I know there is a lot of backup apps but I've not found one that physically backs up the app and then restores it (re-installs) after installing a new rom.
Can anyone suggest an app that will do this?
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You can use Titanium Backup for when you are rooted and Carbon for when you are not rooted or you do have root. Both are good but Carbon doesn`t require root.
Btw i would only backup user apps and data and no system apps.

I have titanium backup, but last time it didn't actually backup the installed apps only the data. Is that the case still? Or will I have to go ahead and re-download all the apps?

T89 said:
I have titanium backup, but last time it didn't actually backup the installed apps only the data. Is that the case still? Or will I have to go ahead and re-download all the apps?
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Usualy it also backs up user data as well as the apps. Maybe you chose the wrong backup option?

adb backup is always there, thats google own integrated backup agent inside your nexus. trigger it via shell or nexus toolkit.
i've tried carbon though and im blown away.

gee2012 said:
You can use Titanium Backup for when you are rooted and Carbon for when you are not rooted or you do have root. Both are good but Carbon doesn`t require root.
Btw i would only backup user apps and data and no system apps.
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why wouldn't you back up system apps?

Because they cause problems most of the time if you restore them on another rom or after upgrading a rom.
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