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Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
Hello,
First off welcome to Android, second, get the fire suit on for the "wrong forum" flames.
What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
Not a *ton* but there is Tether and other goodies that you can start using.
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
Yes to 1st, and there will be lost data when you unlock the bootloader.. if you unocked the bootloader, and then used the phone for a week or so, THEN flashed this addon pack, then no data loss.- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
Android Debug Bridge... its used for debugging. lol....- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
No, the Nandroid backup will be an option AFTER you unlock the BL and install Amon_RA's Recovery image..
Good luck man!!
thanks for the reply.
I'm trying to gather as much as i can before i get the phone in my hands. Maybe because i want to start right away when i get hold of the phone lol You have enlightened me on many points.
I was just wondering also,
I've read about apps such as Nexus Torch and SetCPU which require rooting. Are these apps aquired simply after I unlock + root from the market place? because i read about reinstall su and similar.
Sorry for the noobiness, as i've mentioned im a android beginner and not too familiar with the terms used.
I just want to install some cool apps and convert those iphone users......(my gf )
No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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No they're not required. Rooting is really only for the hardcore phone nerd (which is probably why you're on this site!) I personally am holding off on rooting my N1 until it's fully understood on if it can be re-locked etc. If this is your first Android phone I would recommend doing some reading around on the G1 forum and understand the full capabilities of rooting your device and some neat apps.
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mis-read what you said. Those apps can be obtained from the "Makin Bacon" add on somewhere on this forum. Cyanogen posted it up.
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I'm doing the same thing as this guy. I'm super hardcore about customization so I have no doubt that I'll root my phone eventually but not quite yet. Things are still a bit too new and right now there really aren't that many reasons to root (outside of tethering support IMO). If you can live without tethering for a month, then you should wait to root.
welcome
addon packs do a few things to your phone. the biggest things, i think, are the busybox and the dropbear installations, and the tethering apps. some modders also like to "optimize" android too. whether or not it actually works, i can't personally tell, but i take their word for it.
busybox will allow you to run some common linux commands on your android (with a terminal app i guess...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox
dropbear is an ssh server so that you can access the command line (and push files to your android) from your computer
tethering means share your cell connection with a computer to give your computer internet. i've used it in many airports, and it's sweet.
like the other dude said, the initial root will require a data wipe, but not the addons. i'm not sure if it's true for EVERY rom (i think it is) but when you first install a whole rom a wipe is required, but when upgrading to a newer version of the same rom no wipe is required. if you like to keep your sms and mms's then it's good to have some of these linux tools so you can move and replace the sms and mms databases manually.
adb is android debugging bridge. it's a part of the android sdk (software development kit) that google gives out for free and is meant to develop apps. with it you can plug your phone into your comp via USB and run all sorts of commands on it from your computer. droidexplorer is basically a GUI for the adb commands, so with ADB you can do all that droidexplorer can do. http://de.codeplex.com/
nandroid is kind of like "system restore" for android. you need to root the phone, then flash Amon_RA's recovery thingy (in one of the threads). once you're in recovery, you can create a nandroid backup (kind of like an image of your current android phone) that you can restore later. then restoring it is as simple as going back into recovery and clicking "restore".
m00moo said:
Hi guys,
Im new to the Android scene, and thats because of the N1 got my nexus on order and should arrive shorty in the following week. Been reading the threads here over the last week or so, but alot of things aren't quite clear to me. Especially because im a Android noobie (previous WinMo )
Anyways reading about the Unlocking bootloader and Rooting the device seems pretty straight forward. I understand the consequences of each part and thus appears to be pretty easily done.
The things that i am unclear about are the addon packs and the things it comes bundled with?
- What are the current benefits from flashing these "addon" packs?
- They aren't ROM's just kind of expansion packs right? so no lost data after?
- Wtf is adb? lol i keep seeing it but no idea what it is, thus confusing for noobies like me.
- In cyanogens thread here it says backup using Nandroid, and when i find Nandroid in google i get this. But it says for G1? will it still work fine?
Thankyou for any answers as I believe you will help me to NOT mess up my new phone. I'm sure alot of other people would be thankful for your answers.
Thankyou again!
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wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
If I buy an app (I'm thinking of the Exchange Calendar sync app) and then end up rooting and installing another ROM (say the EU ROM if it has multitouch) will I be able to get my purchased apps working again - or do you have to rebuy them?
If you buy an app it'll always show as purchased on the marketplace so you can redownload it - all the ones I bought on my G1 were still available when I setup the N1 for example.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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Wait to root. Right now it's still too unknown on the "ins and outs" of this phone. When I first started rooting on my G1 and MyTouch I wiped a lot while learning things about it. Research while you wait. An OTA is supposed to come out to fix some bugs, and nobody has released any ROMs anyways. And on paid apps, Google Checkout keeps a record of what you purchase, no matter how many times you wipe Market will always have them listed in the "Downloads" Tab as "Purchased" to re-download at no charge.
m00moo said:
wow thanks vmuch for the kind replies!
i feel like i understand the previous things i've read around in the forum alot more now!
So the question to root or not root, rooting the device would prob be the option for me as:
1) dont really want to do a wipe after a week or two
2) want cool apps such as SetCUP/Nexus Torch
One thing im wondering is whats this about paid apps and rooted devices in the market? After rooting some people cannot see paid apps or something?
Once again thankyou for the kind kind replies and i hope some other noobies like me are learning
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that happened to me. i think it has to do with the fact that i rooted and turned on my phone before i even put my simcard in. i opened the market and couldn't see "top paid apps" (though i could still search for apps and paid ones would show up). after i turned it off, then put my sim card in and turned it back on, no dice, still no top paid apps.
i reflashed nexusone-superboot-1.1.img with my sim card in this time (can't remember if i wiped. i think it required a wipe) and i turned it on with my sim and voila. paid apps. so it's definitely fixable if you run into that problem.
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
Orangeandblue302 said:
I would also agree with waiting to root. I dont see the benefits of SetCPU for the N1, cuz its already at 1ghz, if it was underclocked i would understand.
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I use SetCPU to underclock the device in sleep mode.
I also underclock when I am not going to be using it for long periods.
Saves battery life.
true true, didnt think of it like that. most people want to overclock, i shouldnt assume. you know what happens when you assume lol.
It is a bit of a travesty to do it to this device. Its like putting a Beetle engine in a Porsche.
I can't always be near a charger, and until I can get a bigger battery that will give me more than seven hours, this is the solution.
this being my first android device i have spent hours on end on theses boards and on wiki's learning as much as i can about the phone and the platform... many of these basic questions that he asked i also had not 24 hours ago haha...
that being said, i think a lot of people are moving over to android so what if a thread got started that would answer basic questions that typically ever new user is going to have? ive yet to find a straight forward answer for half of the crap i have tried to find out and having it all in 1 place would be quite beneficial for people switching over... this could be moderated highly to keep it clean and in order?
a nice, straightforward, helpful community would be a nice touch to overtake some iphone shares
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
yamanote said:
I see that you're from Hong Kong also- has your device shipped yet? I ordered mine on the 8th as well and it still shows not yet shipped. Was just wondering whether that's normal as most people state that the device shipped a day after ordering.
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Sorry I am not really from Hong Kong lol I'm in fact from UK and Chinese. My Phone will be arriving early next week so whilst waiting, I am trying to learn as much as possible in case i damage my phone being a noob. lol
I agree with JHaste, i think due to the N1 and the upcoming HTC andoird devices. Alot of people will be moving over to Android in the coming 2-3 months. The questions i asked will be asked over and over and some kind of wiki,faq or android bible will be great. If anybody had the time and knowledge of basic rooting, unlocking and flashing could do such a thing it will be greatly appreciated
m00moo said:
thanks again for the replies
Im pretty up for rooting upon recieving my handset which should be by wednesday the latest (no engraving), as i ordered on friday 8th. But being the first time im quite scared to do so lol especially on a brand new phone.
But as SystmDcIn said theres too much we don't know as of yet and slowly things are becoming more and more developed as we speak.
The main issue for me is using the phone 2 weeks in and then wiping it clean hopefully somebody will make some cool ROMS soon which include the "addons and goodies" so the process is made way more simple.
Thanks again guys! Well appreciated!
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i think cyanogen's mod includes a backup app (titanium backup or somethin)...you'd be able to save all your data before you wiped it clean (but then you'd need the same backup app to restore it)
this may seem like a silly question, but i have to return my incredible bec they are sending me a replacement, dead pixel, so before i try to root i would like to have it unrooted before i send it back...
so how do you unroot it?
thanx all
At the risk of starting a flamewar (and none of this is directly aimed at the OP):
A lot people need to chill on this. This root method is not ready for prime time yet (that's why they made the disclaimer that it's only really for power users).
As an average user, there is almost nothing gained by having root at this point (other than removing city id and MAYBE gaining tethering). I mean seriously, people who don't even know how to install the android sdk on their computers have no business attempting this.
The main reason most people want root is for custom roms and there aren't any yet.
To answer your question, yes, you can easily undo it with a factory wipe/flash, but again, what's the point in trying it when you have nothing to do with the privileges?
Use one of the RUU post in this forum pre ota or the ota one.
m1k3- said:
To answer your question, yes, you can easily undo it with a factory wipe
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thank you!
m1k3- said:
To answer your question, yes, you can easily undo it with a factory wipe/flash, but again, what's the point in trying it when you have nothing to do with the privileges?
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BOOO!
I've been seeing this kind of presumptuous junk pop up again in the Inc thread around the root issue, just like it used to around root season in late '08 for the G1. The one lesson I learned was this:
STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT SMART/GOOD/CRAFTY ENOUGH TO ROOT!
And if you haven't checked recently, there are a ton of root-only apps on the market. Maybe he just likes #-signs better than $-signs. Whatever his reasons are, just let people be. This forum wouldn't exist if it weren't for natural curiosity.
really though at this point it's kinda based on the SD card you have an timing. to unroot though you just download and run the RUU on the forums here.
rynosaur said:
BOOO!
I've been seeing this kind of presumptuous junk pop up again in the Inc thread around the root issue, just like it used to around root season in late '08 for the G1. The one lesson I learned was this:
STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT SMART/GOOD/CRAFTY ENOUGH TO ROOT!
And if you haven't checked recently, there are a ton of root-only apps on the market. Maybe he just likes #-signs better than $-signs. Whatever his reasons are, just let people be. This forum wouldn't exist if it weren't for natural curiosity.
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Dude,
Aside from the fact that they can break stuff (up to and including bricking their phone - yes I realize this process resulting in a brick is unlikely, but it's still possible), there's also another good reason... security. A lot of these people aren't 'linux guys' and don't even really understand what exactly 'root' even means. I bet $20 that if you had everyone in this forum in a room and walked around with a clipboard asking people 'What is UID 0?' maybe 20-30% of people would know the answer. That means that up to 80% of them probably don't quite understand all of the things inside this can of worms they're trying to open.
My comments weren't intended to be presumptuous, or to look down on people, or to thumb my nose at them, etc. I'm only pointing out that for average (or probably even most) users, there aren't really any everyday reasons to go through this.... especially if you don't know what you're doing. All risk, no reward. And that's exactly why the developers of the method are advising these types of users to wait for something that's more suitable for mass consumption.
Ya I love my phone the way it is, all I wanted to do is wifi tether haha. I rooted just fine and im no expert at all. It took about 20 minutes.
Thank you! To the answer on how to quickly unroot. I appreciate it...
drieves1 said:
Use one of the RUU post in this forum pre ota or the ota one.
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Is there a way to unroot without wiping the phone?
Since when did wiping the phone remove root?
If you RUU the phone to unroot it is wiped and will need to re-do all the settings. I dont want to have to do that.
I was thinking about updating to Froyo via Kies using this guide I found that XDA will not let me post until I hit eight posts...
I am currently using one of jt's DI01 ROMs and I take it I will need to do a Nandroid so I can perform the upgrade on a stock phone. My question though is can I just backup my Apps with Titanium Backup Pro and then restore each app individually once the Froyo update is on the phone? I don't want to lose all the information associated with the programs like favorites, game saves, contacts, etc.. I know I have restored programs using Titanium before, but it was before they had any of my own personal data added to them, that is what is important to me!
Thank you for your help.
If you are on a vzw fascinate that would be a very bad idea.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
If you are on a vzw fascinate that would be a very bad idea.
good day.
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10char
I have read people upgrading to Froyo from a different carriers update. Is this not possible. I am on Verizon here in the states.
Steezus said:
I have read people upgrading to Froyo from a different carriers update. Is this not possible. I am on Verizon here in the states.
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not yet
10char
Steezus said:
I have read people upgrading to Froyo from a different carriers update. Is this not possible. I am on Verizon here in the states.
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not yet, if you want to be able to make calls
You know what I love about this place? (And this isn't even a little sarcastic, I mean it!)
That not a single person responded telling the guy to do it. Other forums they'd love to see a newbie mess up their hardware.
XDA is a great place.
if it wasn't christmas eve, then i'd be all for it. wait till april fools!
If it wasn't created for your phone, or ported to your phone, rule of thumb is not to install it. The more important it is to your phone, the higher the odds you shouldn't install it. Seeing as an os is pretty important you should really not install it.
I like to see when people get their phones borked, but here's the problem with newbies borking their phones.
They come back here for help. They post new threads hoping that someone helps them... Then all of us have to try our best to help them fix their borked phone...
So it comes down to prevention of borking phones. If we can prevent one person from borking their phone by warning them 1000 times, we should do it...
Thanks for the info, I will hold off, probably just flash the DJ05 image and reroot while waiting. Still curious about backing up with Titanium. Does that restore attached personal data for each app or just the app itself?
Steezus said:
Thanks for the info, I will hold off, probably just flash the DJ05 image and reroot while waiting. Still curious about backing up with Titanium. Does that restore attached personal data for each app or just the app itself?
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It has the option to do both.
Open Titanium. Hit Menu>Batch>RUN Restore all apps with data. From there you can check off the one's you do want and don't want.
tlogank said:
It has the option to do both.
Open Titanium. Hit Menu>Batch>RUN Restore all apps with data. From there you can check off the one's you do want and don't want.
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Awesome, thanks for your help man!
tlogank said:
It has the option to do both.
Open Titanium. Hit Menu>Batch>RUN Restore all apps with data. From there you can check off the one's you do want and don't want.
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Unless u have pro, you will still have to say yes to each individual app. I would highly recommend getting pro, it will run it all the way through and you don't do a thing. Also need to be rooted for both
As stated in the first post, I have Pro. Titanium back up requires root to install, but my questions have been answered. Thanks for the info everyone.
Does Kies even work with our phones?
Sent from my Super Clean Voodoo Fascinate
imnuts said:
Does Kies even work with our phones?
Sent from my Super Clean Voodoo Fascinate
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It is a ***** to get it to talk to the phone. It works maybe one out of ten tries for me. I have only messed around with it before installing it because it is such a POS and a complete embarrassment to Samsung. It should have never been released.
Kies is not even meant for the vzw fascinate.
good day.
I agree with chopper. Likely the reason it desnt work with our phones is the fact that it is in no way made for our phones, or a part of our phones software. Only the GSM models that I know of have it. And it is an option when u hook it up to your computer via usb. And we don't have that option.
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Bump to let the guy who is promoting kies to update all fascinates.
This is what happens when you promote misinformation.
I'm actually kind of afraid to root my device. I just don't want to mess anything up. And we only have one Rom. Is it right to just wait? I loved having root on my sensation but I really really don't want to mess up my galaxy.
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Assuming the method of obtaining root is safe, you don't really have anything to worry about by just having root access.
It's only dangerous if:
A) The method of obtaining root initially is dangerous in some way
B) You start giving apps root permission that may be malicious
C) You use root access to start modifying system files carelessly
So as long are you are careful and follow the advice from helpful users who have confirmed which apps are safe to disable and such, you should not have any problems.
I don't have my device yet, as it's pre-ordered on Verizon, but I could never live without root on an Android device. As soon as we get custom ROMs though, I'll be flashing one of those.
I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.
if you have sprint they dgaf about the flash count or even ir your rooted running a leaked jellybean rom they will still help you out and the flash process is simple just watch qbking77 videos on hius youtube channel root gives you access to more apps such at titanium backup and allows you to delete apps that you never use
MacTheRipperr said:
Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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Me either, which is why I tend to wait for my 1 year to be up before rooting.
At the very least, I wait for a safer, more painless root... Looking briefly at the root instructions for the SGSIII, it seems there are several opportunities to brick your phone if you F something up. Granted, if you're careful and you're remotely competent, it shouldn't happen, but it still can. I can't guarantee that I will make it the whole 1st year... but I'm pretty sure I will at least wait for one of those "download-this-program-which-roots-the-phone-for-you" type tools (a la "Unrevoked" on my beloved Incredible).
As for the warranty... I may be persuaded to root my phone earlier than the 1 year if there is a reliable unroot that leaves virtually no traces behind. I'm not sure what the "flash counter" is exactly, but unless it's something that shows up on the bootloader screen or anything like that, I'm sure Verizon won't notice. Unless anyone out there has had a different experience?
Besides the small amount of bloat that can be hidden with the launcher, the phone works flawless for me. If there was a way to go back to 100% stock on a T-999, I'd maybe do it.
Well I'm currently on T-Mobile. And I have had my device a week and have had no issues what so ever besides the black blotches I didn't even notice until reading the defect screen and I only have 2 tiny spots that don't bother me at all. I have never had to replace any Samsung device I have ever purchased. But I cannot say the same for HTC. That Damn counter is the only thing stopping me
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RampageRR said:
If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.
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^This
and never delete apps, IMO it's always better to just "freeze" them with Titanium Backup, because they can always be restored.
If you delete a system app (aka uninstall it) many times it cannot be restored via Titanium, so it's always risky to do that.
I've decided to wait for a one click root option.
The actual process of rooting is simple, only problem is if u dont read or rush through it. No worries there.
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You guys should not be scare to mess things up... i mean the root its so easy .... but like the other guy said just wait for a week or two to see the results...
I'm holding off rooting as well to make sure there isn't any issues with the phone. And if everything is working properly I will root. I do love this device though. Came from the Samsung Vibrant who has served me well for the two years I had it.
Rooting itself is not dangerous. When someone has root and does something they don't know how to fix, that is when it becomes dangerous.
A gun isn't dangerous until it is loaded. You can give a gun to any idiot but you have to be careful with who you give bullets to.
Sent from my Axiom MAXX!!
I agree, but there is always that what if? I suppose that's the risks we take
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You all just need to read all instructions and follow them perfectly. If you rely solely on One Click Roots and things of that nature, you'll never really learn how to work with Android. It might look daunting at first, but ADB and related stuff really isn't bad at all. Take the time to read and learn, and if in the rare case you should mess up, you'll have the knowledge of how to fix it yourself.
Also, don't be afraid to ask questions on how to do things rather than jump in head first and brick your phone. People here will be glad to help, just ignore the few idiots who flame you to make themselves feel better. We all started without knowledge at one point or another.
I've been reading THIS thread and was wondering.. If I ROOT my Galaxy S5 will I loose everything?
If not.. What will I loose?
Also, I've never rooted a device before, Just wanting to know a couple of things..
Is it safe?
How complex is it?
What will I loose?
Can I 'De-Root'?
Thanks.
NextGenUpdate_Cpt.S said:
I've been reading THIS thread and was wondering.. If I ROOT my Galaxy S5 will I loose everything?
If not.. What will I loose?
Also, I've never rooted a device before, Just wanting to know a couple of things..
Is it safe?
How complex is it?
What will I loose?
Can I 'De-Root'?
Thanks.
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Well, I have rooted many devices myself...but the S5, has a new security precaution that throws a code if you send in your phone. I forgot that its called, but basically it really voids your warranty FOR SURE. We use to be able to rest how many flashes we did, now not as easy. So if you think you need your warranty, DO NOT ROOT YET. Not safe if you have warranty....but they are working on a workaround.
Rooting isnt to hard if you READ INSTRUCTIONS COMPLETELY. Its pretty easy, but I say again, READ INSTRUCTIONS COMPLETELY! And as far as "what ROM would I use" question...thats alllllllll up to you. I say to each their own. Most ROMs are the same, just a couple of different boot or speed, but just find the one that fits you.
When you root, you dont loose anything. Its when you flash a new ROM is when you loose EVERYTHING. I suggest to back up everything with something like Super Backup or anything that will back up contacts, apps, call logs, ect. Again, to each their own on what app you use. I personally use Super Backup and it works for me all the time.
As I know from past phones I have rooted, YES you can de-root your phone, but when you do, you again have to wipe EVERYTHING and go back to stock. But remember, if you root RIGHT THIS MINUET...YOU WONT GET UPDATES OR ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE KNOX SECURITY. So personally, I would wait till there's a work around....so you dont screw yourself.
Hope all this helps ya!!!
YoshiNurijumi said:
Well, I have rooted many devices myself...but the S5, has a new security precaution that throws a code if you send in your phone. I forgot that its called, but basically it really voids your warranty FOR SURE. We use to be able to rest how many flashes we did, now not as easy. So if you think you need your warranty, DO NOT ROOT YET. Not safe if you have warranty....but they are working on a workaround.
Rooting isnt to hard if you READ INSTRUCTIONS COMPLETELY. Its pretty easy, but I say again, READ INSTRUCTIONS COMPLETELY! And as far as "what ROM would I use" question...thats alllllllll up to you. I say to each their own. Most ROMs are the same, just a couple of different boot or speed, but just find the one that fits you.
When you root, you dont loose anything. Its when you flash a new ROM is when you loose EVERYTHING. I suggest to back up everything with something like Super Backup or anything that will back up contacts, apps, call logs, ect. Again, to each their own on what app you use. I personally use Super Backup and it works for me all the time.
As I know from past phones I have rooted, YES you can de-root your phone, but when you do, you again have to wipe EVERYTHING and go back to stock. But remember, if you root RIGHT THIS MINUET...YOU WONT GET UPDATES OR ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE KNOX SECURITY. So personally, I would wait till there's a work around....so you dont screw yourself.
Hope all this helps ya!!!
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Thanks!
Well I watched this video (uPcEeMhlR_8 - YouTube) and it seem's simple enough.
The warrenty side, to be honest I'm not that fussed about.. If it comes to it I'm sure dropping the phone down some stairs and phoning the insurance would work?
The main reason that I'm wanting ROOT is a app I come across called Freedom? That allows free in app purchases?
Also, Will I loose anything on the device such as fingerprint scanning ect? When I was going to ROOT my S4 the thread I read said I wouldn't be able to use Air View (or something like that)
I'm not a total noob .. Just wanting to check a couple of things over first.
NextGenUpdate_Cpt.S said:
Thanks!
Well I watched this video (uPcEeMhlR_8 - YouTube) and it seem's simple enough.
The warrenty side, to be honest I'm not that fussed about.. If it comes to it I'm sure dropping the phone down some stairs and phoning the insurance would work?
The main reason that I'm wanting ROOT is a app I come across called Freedom? That allows free in app purchases?
Also, Will I loose anything on the device such as fingerprint scanning ect? When I was going to ROOT my S4 the thread I read said I wouldn't be able to use Air View (or something like that)
I'm not a total noob .. Just wanting to check a couple of things over first.
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Fingerprint scanning etc will not be affected by root and my previous phones, S, S3 and S4, didn't lose anything by rooting either. You can also use TA to set things back to official apart from Knox.
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sarbe said:
Fingerprint scanning etc will not be affected by root and my previous phones, S, S3 and S4, didn't lose anything by rooting either. You can also use TA to set things back to official apart from Knox.
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Exactly what he said. You dont "lose" anything when ya root. You gain access to your ENTIRE phone when you gain root. Only when ya flash a ROM is when you lose things, but can get them back depending on the ROM.
As far as "paid apps" goes. We arent supposed to talk about that on the forum if I remember correctly...LOL...but check out APKGalaxy, pretty good app. ANDDDDD...as far as throwing it down some stairs and whatnot....Sometimes they can recover from that and see that your security was breached, but maybe Im wrong. Im just keeping an eye out for a safer way to root. But by all means, go for it!!!
YoshiNurijumi said:
Exactly what he said. You dont "lose" anything when ya root. You gain access to your ENTIRE phone when you gain root. Only when ya flash a ROM is when you lose things, but can get them back depending on the ROM.
As far as "paid apps" goes. We arent supposed to talk about that on the forum if I remember correctly...LOL...but check out APKGalaxy, pretty good app. ANDDDDD...as far as throwing it down some stairs and whatnot....Sometimes they can recover from that and see that your security was breached, but maybe Im wrong. Im just keeping an eye out for a safer way to root. But by all means, go for it!!!
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Thanks I'll take a look
Also, How do I go about re-booting?
I see a lot of app's about re-boot..
Will it break my phone if i turn it off and on OR reboot when its rooted?
(p.s its rooted now )
NextGenUpdate_Cpt.S said:
Thanks I'll take a look
Also, How do I go about re-booting?
I see a lot of app's about re-boot..
Will it break my phone if i turn it off and on OR reboot when its rooted?
(p.s its rooted now )
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No it won't break your phone, reboot to your hearts content.
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